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scottfab 01-31-2013 10:03 PM

Under Hood Lighting
 
We all know what a POS the under hood utility lights are when it comes to power consumption. Good way to kill the battery. Most put switches on them (as I have).

The current draw is 1 amp per light so that's 2 amps total.
Well I think I've found a way to drop the current to 250 mA per light.
That's 1/2 amp total for both.
Along with this comes 3x more light.
The answer is LEDs of course, that cure all for illumination of the modern age.

There are a few issues yet to work out but what I have clicks right into the stock bulb holder. No modifications needed.
Stay tuned. I'll post details as soon as I work out a few things.
In the pic below the left side is the stock incandescent light and on the right is the LED "plug and play" replacement.

http://zr1.net/forum/picture.php?alb...pictureid=1952

GOLDCYLON 01-31-2013 10:10 PM

Re: Under Hood Lighting
 
Love those leds I have them in my interior in cool bright white. Just completed the footwells

-=Jeff=- 01-31-2013 10:26 PM

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Watching this with interest

GOLDCYLON 01-31-2013 10:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Jeff=- (Post 162208)
Watching this with interest


You and me both!!!!

-=Jeff=- 01-31-2013 10:31 PM

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Hey GC do you have a list of the bulbs for the interior? It is on my list but seats are first

jimmy b. 01-31-2013 10:57 PM

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Should also be a lot less heat on the lenses too and yes please post part #'s and where to buy...jimmy

Fully Vetted 02-01-2013 06:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GOLDCYLON (Post 162211)
You and me both!!!!

X3!

Mine are not working at all right now (bulbs are ok).

Paul in SC 02-01-2013 08:17 AM

Re: Under Hood Lighting
 
Scott,

Nice...I'm in.

and GC...a second to Jeff's request for the list of interior LEDs. :handshak:

Thanks,
Paul

Blue Flame Restorations 02-01-2013 08:48 AM

Re: Under Hood Lighting
 
Nice, Scott. BIG thumbs up!

GOLDCYLON 02-01-2013 09:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Jeff=- (Post 162213)
Hey GC do you have a list of the bulbs for the interior? It is on my list but seats are first


Nope I picked em up from Corvette HID. Yosi has the complete kit. He does not list the sizes either for obvious reasons. I will tell you coupled with Andrews Mirror upgrade that had the same LEDs it is one hell of an improvement.

Cylons are all about LEDs dont ya know :) I went with Cool White. Still need to get one for the Console. DA link is provided below gents. I will try to get a night shot to show you the difference as well. The kit includes the Foot Wells, the under the Mirror Map light (Which I did not need due to Andrews Mirror), the Halo panels and the Door handles.


http://www.corvettehid.com/cart/inde...32f7a4af8a47b2

Paul in SC 02-01-2013 09:22 AM

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GC,

Thanks for the follow-up and refresh as to supplier.

Paul

GOLDCYLON 02-01-2013 09:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul in SC (Post 162248)
GC,

Thanks for the follow-up and refresh as to supplier.

Paul


Paul if enough are interested I can ask him for a forum group buy pricing. I did order about $1400 of HIDS and LEDs from him. Im sure I could get the forum a better price. LMK GC

Paul in SC 02-01-2013 09:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GOLDCYLON (Post 162249)
Paul if enough are interested I can as him for a forum group buy pricing. I did order about $1400 of HIDS and LEDs from him. Im sure I could get the forum a better price. LMK GC

I would be very interested in pricing. The interior lighting especially with the others for consideration. :handshak:

Thanks,
Paul

Corbusa 02-01-2013 10:02 AM

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I'm in .. anyone doing the tail lights? or blinkers ?

LancePearson 02-01-2013 06:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fully Vetted (Post 162229)
X3!

Mine are not working at all right now (bulbs are ok).


You probably know this but on my 91 there is one inline 10 amp I think it is, spade lug two legged fuse just down below the left headlight area when the clamshell is up. In my case I like the lights and LEDs would be great but when you have the hood up for a while I've just chosen to remove the fuse, put the two sides of the inline fuse together and store the fuse. Easier than putting a switch in for me as I'm at the stage where I don't open and close the hood each time I do something around the engine.

Lance Pearson;)

Ronstar 02-01-2013 08:44 PM

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I'd be interested in their HID driving lights and maybe interior lights. Also the underhood lights

GOLDCYLON 02-01-2013 09:11 PM

Re: Under Hood Lighting
 
Look at my seperate post up


http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19392

RICKYRJ1 02-01-2013 10:21 PM

Re: Under Hood Lighting
 
Nice job Scott, I'm in on both underhood and interior. Thanks for posting and Thanks GC for the GB set up

scottfab 02-05-2013 06:35 PM

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Here is an update on the Underhood Engine Lamps (That's what the FSM calls them)
I thought I could get the power down from 24 watts (12W x 2) to 6watts. Well I've gotten it down to 1.2 watts and still so bright you can't look into it. That is 5% of the power and more light.

I've done an over night test leaving them on all night. Battery is still fine. The LED assemblies draw 50ma each.
I'm doing the write-up now. There is no cutting or butchering up of any wires. This thing plugs right in.

http://www.zr1netregistry.com/Portals/0/101_0188.JPG

http://www.zr1netregistry.com/Portal...20101_0193.JPG

photo taken with only the engine lamps on:
http://www.zr1netregistry.com/Portal...20101_0205.JPG

GOLDCYLON 02-05-2013 08:41 PM

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Scott did you hand make these?

cvette98pacecar 02-05-2013 08:52 PM

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You guys are killing me, Count me in for three sets of under hood and 3 sets Interior.

GOLDCYLON 02-05-2013 09:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cvette98pacecar (Post 162767)
You guys are killing me, Count me in for three sets of under hood and 3 sets Interior.


Robert follow my thread and get your 20% from corvettehid.com

-=Jeff=- 02-05-2013 09:05 PM

Re: Under Hood Lighting
 
Yeah Scott if it is a DIY project I am all for it

scottfab 02-05-2013 11:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Jeff=- (Post 162770)
Yeah Scott if it is a DIY project I am all for it

I am going to supply the parts for a few $ to make it worth it.
Requires some level of soldering ability and eye hand coordination.

I may do a short run build but it'd have to be well worth my
time to do so.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOLDCYLON (Post 162766)
Scott did you hand make these?

I designed and assembled them yes. All parts are easy to get if you know where to look :)
I suppose I could keep private any development work I do on the car, but why?. I'll make it all open including schematics and circuit simulations.

Lots of time went into this including a build of several prototypes.
One design worked well but was not efficient enough. The current one is not only efficient but more light with fewer parts :blahblah:

For anyone the enjoys this sort of thing here is a plot of V across the LEDs and power dissipated by the dropping resistor as a function of battery voltage to make sure everything is kosher.
http://www.zr1netregistry.com/Portal...d%20Rpower.jpg

-=Jeff=- 02-05-2013 11:36 PM

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I will buy a kit .. sign me up

Corbusa 02-06-2013 12:01 AM

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I'm in !!!

72warbonnet 02-06-2013 12:57 AM

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Ditto...as long as you'll mail to Hawaii! I'd get two underhood sets.
Bill

tf95ZR1 02-06-2013 01:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GOLDCYLON (Post 162766)
Scott did you hand make these?

I'm interested also.

IN

Paul in SC 02-06-2013 08:30 AM

Re: Under Hood Lighting
 
Scott,

For those of us (me especially) that are electronically challenged :dontknow:, and do not have any testing equipment, what would a completed kit go for?

I know I could do the soldering, but I have no way of checking "kosherness". :???:

Thanks,
Paul

PhillipsLT5 02-06-2013 09:06 AM

Re: Under Hood Lighting
 
I am interested in under hood, I do have a switch now that turns them on/off
Will that still work?

GOLDCYLON 02-06-2013 09:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PhillipsLT5 (Post 162814)
I am interested in under hood, I do have a switch now that turns them on/off
Will that still work?


Yes Phil since this is a direct bulb replacement. Cant wait to get my hands on a pair of these.

GOLDCYLON 02-06-2013 09:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by scottfab (Post 162787)
I designed and assembled them yes. All parts are easy to get if you know where to look :)

Sign me up for a pair. I would need to have these built as I suspect most of the membership will.

scottfab 02-06-2013 09:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GOLDCYLON (Post 162816)
Sign me up for a pair. I would need to have these built as I suspect most of the membership will.

Ok I'm doing a poll to see how much trouble I'm getting into.
This poll is for 7 days ONLY. Anything after that may or may not get serviced since this is not a business for me. I design things. That's the fun part :p Cranking things out is drudgery.

GOLDCYLON 02-06-2013 09:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by scottfab (Post 162820)
Ok I'm doing a poll to see how much trouble I'm getting into.
This poll is for 7 days ONLY. Anything after that may or may not get serviced since this is not a business for me. I design things. That's the fun part :p Cranking things out is drudgery.


First in your poll Scott do you take Paypal? GC

alwayscode390 02-06-2013 10:15 AM

Re: Under Hood Lighting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PhillipsLT5 (Post 162814)
I am interested in under hood, I do have a switch now that turns them on/off
Will that still work?


I noticed my underhood lights don't turn on, are they supposed to come on when you lift up the hood?

I wonder now if I have a switch , or if they are just burnt out.

If they are burnt out, is that common since our cars are pretty old now?

If there is a switch ... where is the common place to install it (where should I look?)

Thanks ---

scottfab 02-06-2013 10:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GOLDCYLON (Post 162827)
First in your poll Scott do you take Paypal? GC

Yes, paypal will be fine but not quite yet. Based on the numbers I have to see if I need to hire someone to make these for me :icon_scra
Then I'll post pay options.

The assembly is not really trivial :-x

scottfab 02-06-2013 10:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alwayscode390 (Post 162831)
I noticed my underhood lights don't turn on, are they supposed to come on when you lift up the hood?

I wonder now if I have a switch , or if they are just burnt out.

If they are burnt out, is that common since our cars are pretty old now?

If there is a switch ... where is the common place to install it (where should I look?)

Thanks ---

I'd check to see if someone unplugged the connector. It's located just to the right of the passenger side headlight. Follow the wire down to it.
Next check the inline fuse. Maybe it was removed.
Then look for any switch that may have been installed. Most are put in the cove under the drivers headlight.
Lastly you can inspect to see if the bulbs were just taken out or are popped. The mercury switched would be last.
You can tap on them to see if they've become intermittent.

GOLDCYLON 02-06-2013 10:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alwayscode390 (Post 162831)
I noticed my underhood lights don't turn on, are they supposed to come on when you lift up the hood?

YES

Quote:

Originally Posted by alwayscode390 (Post 162831)
I wonder now if I have a switch , or if they are just burnt out.

Both are possible and the switch is aftermarket. Its also more likely the previous owner unplugged the lights or pulled the fuse


Quote:

Originally Posted by alwayscode390 (Post 162831)
If they are burnt out, is that common since our cars are pretty old now?

Not common one maybe out but not both my money is they are unplugged or switched. Start following the harness.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alwayscode390 (Post 162831)
If there is a switch ... where is the common place to install it (where should I look?)

Thanks ---

It could be anywhere however mine is on the drivers side next to front of the tire in the engine compartment.

alwayscode390 02-06-2013 10:22 AM

Re: Under Hood Lighting
 
Thanks Scott and GC ... if I can get these working I may be interested in the GP too :) ---

Ronstar 02-06-2013 10:24 AM

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I want a set


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