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Maybe we can finally get our country back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrQp6qSgX_I&feature=youtu.be

More evidence the birth cert. is a forgery.


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Thats very interesting.....considering all the technology available at the Presidents disposal I can see where this could easily be done....seems like the best evidence yet...:flag: but not reported by the lame stream media....just this local affiliate.....hmmmmmm

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Things that make you go hmmmmmmm ;)

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when does the impeachment process start? Will Biden be running for re-election?

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Early April Fool's joke.

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Wow! This is really compelling story (not?!). If a volunteer investigator - Mike Zullo hired by a rogue Sherriff Arpaio, who himself is under investigation by a Federal Grand Jury for abuse of power, tells a local Fox News affiliate their investigation - prompted by the Tea Party - reveals Obama faked his Birth Certificate... It must be true?
Come on people, use your common sense here and understand the source of allegations is too suspect to claim - "Confirmed Obamas Birth Cert is a Fake.". Our Country's greatness will whither away, unless we seek truths vs. opinions based on preconceived notions - garbage in = garbage out.
Everyone I've met thru ZR1 Net seems to be caring, compassionate and tolerant, so why fill our board with politically motivated banter, when we are really here to share our passion for ZR1's?
I no longer read Corvette Forum, as it is full of political rhetoric and hate speech. I prefer to leave politics to political blogs and ZR1's to the ZR1 forum.

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I considered this may not be the place to post that before I did. Just seems like a lot of people are getting really worried, I believe with good reason.

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This is in Off topic which is Ok. In short the White House has some answering to do. Everyone knows you cant move objects in a scanned document. So????

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SB,

Off Topic is the place to post this type of stuff. I don't mind an educated counter point and discussion. That is how our democracy works best. However, I wouldn't put the birther issue and Sheriff Arpiao in a category anywhere near resembling intelligent discourse. If you watched the total of the newscast in this thread, you'll note that the ONLY response the reporter got was from a Republican Congressman who affirmed his position that the President IS an American citizen born in Hawaii. I notice nobody of any consequence has taken up Sheriff Joe's earth shattering announcement.

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Well said. So very well said. If folks just stop for a moment and think clearly they can see the hate behind much anti Obama stuff. Personally I don't trust ANYTHING I hear on Fox "News". A resent special on the owner of Fox (Murdock) told how they hire "opinionists" instead of reporters to find the news. The special was on the Bloomberg channel.

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I'm not convinced the media isn't controled, or influenced, or, you pick the word, by big brother. I'll blame that on Mr.Obama also. The bro has got to go. We'll be living in a socialist society shortly. Lets force health care on people. Since when is it our governments place to tell us what to buy. No thank you. If you can't afford it, you can't have it. If you didn't work for it or earn it, why should I have to give it to you? I work hard to support me and my family.

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Yah, that's the American way. You're poor so you get to die. I got mine so you can suffer cause I'm cummfy. That's the kind of thinking that wants to charge for breathing air.
Fact is government has the charge to enforce and pass laws that are for the greater good. "Socialist state"?
Right, if that's the case then Eisenhower was a socialist for making us pay for the Interstate system.

Don't follow Russ Limberger too closely. You'll start believing is popping pills too. Don't follow the leader without thinking.

The "bro" as you say has done an outstanding job. The only thing he did wrong was to waste two years trying to reason with old stuck in the mud non-thinking law makers at the beginning. Shame on him for trying to reason with them.:flag:

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efn,

E pluribus unum. From many, one. The greatness of our country is its community. The brotherhood of man.
You are being played. Sorry, We are being played.

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The way I see the Affordable Health Care Act, is that the way things are now the hospitals have to provide care to anyone that walks through their doors whether they can pay or not. Under the Affordable Health Care Act, everyone must have basic insurance or pay a fine/tax that goes to help those that cannot afford insurance, to buy it. The govrnment does not tell or force you to buy from any certain company. So, would you rather pay higher health care fees for those that do not/cannot pay, or would you like lower health care fees and everyone have insurance? The idea is that everyone will be insured and the cost will go down. By the way, THIS WAS A REPUBLICAN idea a few years ago!! Also, insurance companies will not be allowed to rape the public anymore like they have been doing for years!!

Regarding our president. I have been aware of every election since Ike, and I cannot recall the amount of hatred for a president (except Tricky Dick) that has been thrown at Obama! Like him or not, he is OUR PRESIDENT! Give him the respect the office is due and if you don't like him, VOTE. What really scares the hell out of me is that any one of the Republican candidates could actually become president!! And yes, I have voted Republican before.:proud:

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Politics are great, can we get into religion next?
I don't mind helping a friend, neighbor, or bro out when they are down and out. I don't like supporting those that will not help themselves or even try to help themselves.
Our government definately has a role, like building our highway system and protecting our freedoms (thank you to those that do). I just think they are way overstepping their bounds. And yes, insurance companies have been raping us fr a long time. Too many people think insurance money and government money is free money. Duh, where do you think they get the money from? And I'm sure a lot will be lost in this discusion through the keyboard.
I do support the office of the President, as long as I think that person is doing what is in the best interest of this country.
Sorry, I'm babbling.

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You're on to the solution (or one of them maybe) I like that in your post. You did not just rant wildly some rhetoric form the extreme right. And I totally agree that helping those that won't help themselves is wrong. Problem has been too many suffer by not helping anyone. I'd gladly trade our welfare for healthcare for the poor but that's not how it works. Absolute minimum in this country has to be "some" level of health care for all. Once you get folks off their high horse and admit that then we can start helping people before they go the the emergency room dieing. That removes clutter in the ER and saves $.
Fact is with increased loss of personal privacy (databases on us all) there should be ways to reduce fraud in both welfare and healthcare now. Combine that with having say one or two less wars should help pay for what we need at home.
If you dismiss the KKK type folks and other haters and just look at what this guy has done and has tried to do he makes the Bush legacy look pretty lamb. Looking forward to 4 more years.
OK now religion :)
I don't care WHAT religion you are or say someone else is. That's one of our freedoms in the country. That goes for the president even if in someone's mind he's Muslim

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:proud::cheers::Eagle:

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Definatly proud to be an American.
Who brought the KKK into the president thing?

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Well since Obama is half white he must be in the KKK, right?

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Does it matter who reported this? If the court jester catches the king doing something wrong, do you dismiss it simply because it is reported by the court jester.
Is health care a right?

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dunno but he doesn't wear a US flag pin on his lapel so he must be communist right? And he has a dog so he must hate cats, right? And there are two birth notices in two different Hawaiian newspapers from the early 60s so there must have been a conspiracy to fake his birth dating from five decades ago, right. Seems to me he got the Bin Ladin, got GM in record profits and doing what he can on the economy from what was handed to him by the "where are those darn WMDs" Bush. :fahne:

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So, nobody sends me anything pro Obama. This is the first I've heard of birth notices. Where can I find them?

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I think most middle American's don't believe the BS that is circulated about Obama. I mean you have the blind sheep that just pass it along to go along but thinking people can see through it. (mostly Obama bashing in emails or cheap shots in forums like this) I mean it is SOOO over the top biased that most of us are just waiting for the election. Why waist time with the haters.

The birth notices were reported by a similar news feed as the one that got this thread started. You'd have to see it or ask that reporter. Not too many papers on the big island though. I think those that brought it up are way backed off now. It'd be such a waste of political ammo in the coming election that it would be stupid. And you can bet the big companies backing the team of Romney lovers and their think tank will not be so stupid.

Not much gets said about the wars that were started before Obama took office and that we're turning it over to the locals now. That's really too bad. He's way far from perfect and is quite hideous looking but as Pres he's done an honest and credible job. It's just too bad he wasted the first two years trying to get along with the like of "the Boner".

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[QUOTE=scottfab;138031]Not much gets said about the wars that were started before Obama took office and that we're turning it over to the locals now. That's really too bad. :blahblah:

Like Korea-Truman (D)NOT, Kosovo- Clinton(D)NOT, Somolia- Clinton(D) what locals, and believe me he has us in Pakistan fighting. I know I have the T-shirts. We just moved all of our stuff to Kuwait and moth balled it because we're going back. And he scares me playing chicken with Iran. All the while tearing down and weaking the military. Don't ask Don't tell was bad enough...:censored:. A community organizer defending our country Lord help us!

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[QUOTE=MikeGolf;138057]Mike,

What's your problem w the repeal of DADT? And that "community organizer",
has more capability and balls to defend this country from terrorism than "chickenhawks" Bush, 5 time draft dodger Cheney, and other cowards like Richard Pearl, Scooter Libby, Doug Feith et al. The lord has helped us.

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Well, I guess I will get my two-cents in.

Korea was a UN thing after North Korea invaded South Korea. I also believe that Somalia was a UN thing. We still recognize our responsibility to our allies.

I do beleive we were right in going after the Taliban in Afganistan, however there appears to have been no plan. As far as Iraq, my heartfelt thanks goes out to all the troops that were involved in that political Bush grudge war. I blame Bush and his cronies Chaney and Rove, among others, for the loss of over 4K of our finest! I am a Vietnam vet, and I know what it is like to serve our country in a worthless war. In my case over 58K of us died for what! Not a F...ing thing! And I have good friends that were lost in that war. My war started with Eisenhower then Kennedy then Johnson and finally Nixon, who did finally get us out of it. As much of a scoundral that he was, I do respect him for getting us out of that war.

War sucks and shouldn't be taken lightly. I respect our president for recognizing this fact!

Well, I know that my two cents probably is not worth much to some of you, but I had to spend it anyway.

We are all brother's in the ZR-1 and we are also all AMERICANS!!:Eagle:

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Probably the best two cents in this entire thread. Thanks for adding it. As one who was drafted but told to stand down just 2 wks before having to report for duty in 73 I do agree with the Nixon assessment.

What a worthless title for a thread to begin with. Don't know how I got pulled into the negative hate crap anyway. I normally just laugh off such stuff the same way I do when I see a cigarette but on the sidewalk.

One thing I will say, the one guy with the best chance at winning from the opposition party is Mitt. At least it's not that Newt Grinch guy. What a piece of work that one is.:USFlag:

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You are lucky to have missed that war!

I had a good friend, Maj Bob Brown, who was lost, along with his weapons officer, flying an F-111 out of Thailand on a solo flight to Hanoi Nov 7, 1972, just weeks before the cease-fire. What a waste!! They still do not know what happened to him and have not retrieved his remains. The strange thing is, from what I had heared from his wife (now deceased), they found his escape capsule and personal belongings in a museum in Russia some years after. I still have his MIA/POW bracelet that I wear occasionally.

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So here we have Mitt. He's from Mass. I moved out of Mass. Political coruptness is business as usual there. Great. Seems all our politicians do what is good for them. Period. Remember when the "pink slime" thing hit the news. Did this woman work for the FDA, I forget, and she's not in the news anymore. She is the news in this story. Know where she is now? She works for the Pink Slime Co. making $750 thouwy a year. That's the news.

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Maybe I'm getting old and cynical. Maybe I'm getting old and actually paying attention to what's going on. Maybe things really are getting bad. Where's George Washington when you need him?

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Obama got Bin Laden ?!????........Please stop.

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do we really need **** like this posted on here?

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Probably not Kevin, 'cause it just gets ugly. Then again, it's up to "we the people" to do something.


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I thought that the "Pink Slime" company went out of business?

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John, last I heard they closed three of four plants for lack of demand for their product. I believe they filed chapter 11. That's the power of the people. We don't like it and we're not going to buy it anymore. Fortunaly the government didn't step in to bail them out with tax payer money. Oh yea, I forgot, that would be free money.

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I always had a thing for Big Mac's. Like every couple of months I would get a craving! Maybe the "Pink Slime" was that "secret" ingrediant that made them so irresistable to me?:sign13:

I agree that bailouts are a tough pill to swallow. But I do beleive they were necessary to prevent millions of innocent folks from losing everything!

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John, you mean like the GM assembly line workers that were being compensated at $82 per hour? They dug their own graves.

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Funny that you mention having a Big Mac every couple of month's. I do the same ! Don't like the thought of the "Pink Slime" thingy.

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No UAW worker made or makes $82/hr. That's more Faux Noise bs.
Here's a good article outlining actual hourly wages, then including benefits.
THEN there is a cost associated w funding retiree pensions which the auto companies signed on to. http://www.leanblog.org/2009/02/problem-isnt-union/

Seriously, do you know of ANY auto assembly worker making $170K/yr?
Because that's what $82/hr calcs to. They actually make about $28/hr. + benefits. Sometimes it helps to think about what these numbers mean before just regurgitating them and damaging your credibility.

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That is probably total compensation, which is not much. My Chevy dealer charges $100/hr labor!! So put it in perspective!!

How many hundreds of thousands would have been put out of work in the supporting industries?? Including many small businesses. The auto industry accounts for a huge amount of business in this country.