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rogerzr1 12-13-2010 08:35 PM

OBX Headers?
 
Anyone familiar with these?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-E...item230c853055

xlr8nflorida 12-13-2010 08:44 PM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rogerzr1 (Post 103376)

I have never heard of them. Not sure how they would bolt up. Sometimes it can be a nightmare making them fit up.

They are about 1/3 of the price of existing header options.

He has some interesting negative feedback but also alot of positive feedback. I just hate to see you get them and have them not work out for you. You usually get what you pay for. However maybe this will be the first inexpensive set available which would be great for those owners who are looking for headers at a fair price.

Those headers are 304 stainless. Stainless Work header are 409.

409 is a titanium stabilized ferritic stainless steel which means that it is a steel alloy containing chromium. It contains less nickel and more carbon than 304 stainless steel. Ferritics are best suited for high temperature applications that require corrosion resistance and high strength. The principal use of 409 stainless steel is automotive exhaust systems and most catalytic converter shells are made of 409.

More workable and stable than 304, 409 will accept bending and heat cycling better than 304. It resists both atmospheric and exhaust gas corrosion. It is magnetic due to its higher carbon content. Through chemical reaction, it oxidizes to a slight brownish hue which aids in corrosion resistance. While it does not polish well, it offers the advantages of higher strength, lower cost and longer life due to its heat handling qualities.

Someone who has all the measurements should contact them and get lots of pictures and measurements. A member could pull the trigger on them and then if they work out good, someone could approach them about a "Group Buy" benefiting all the the membership.

I would do it but I am not in need of another set of headers. Also, I'm not that familiar with header measurements etc.
By eyeballing them though they look decent - just like SW Headers.

I know the SW headers had issues with the dipstick tube when they first came out.

The first test would be if you can get these guys to give you what you need, detailed photos, specs, return policy etc.

Which brother of the beast wants to spearhead this project??

ZZZZZR1 12-13-2010 08:53 PM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Saw those too.... $450? WOW!


Doubtful they are an exact fit, I bet they copied another vendor?

Love more info on them!

xlr8nflorida 12-13-2010 09:08 PM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
For comparison purposes:

http://www.stainlessworks.net/cart/i...ORV38HDR-1.jpg

tomtom72 12-14-2010 06:07 AM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
JMHO:o If you do a comparison of the right side units side by side the cylinder #2 primary tubes look to be a different configuration....no?

Is it possible they somehow got a hold of the other header pattern? I seem to recall Watson and Jeal, or something like that? I would think there could be small differences between the two competing original header designs from way back when. I must admit I do not know enough about LT5 headers so I may be way off base here. Sorry.

:cheers:
Tom

Hammer 12-14-2010 07:21 AM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Looked on their website. NA there.
http://www.obxracingsports.com/index.php

Aurora40 12-14-2010 07:45 AM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
I've heard of them from the LSx world. They just started making headers for the CTS-V, also at about half the price of the only other player. Several people said they've had them on other cars, and the fit and quality was good.

It sounds like they are made in Japan, though if anyone contacts them about them, I'd be interested to know if that's true/untrue.

If I didn't already have headers, I'd definitely consider them. $1000+ for headers is kinda crazy when you look at how cheap they are for so many other cars.

ZZZZZR1 12-14-2010 08:17 AM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Sent Marc Haibeck the link to the headers....

He said it looks suspect.

:cheers:

Pete 12-14-2010 09:45 AM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Heck,for that price i would not hasitate to try them.

Pete

mgbrv8 12-14-2010 10:16 AM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
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I just bought a set. I bought the full long tube exhaust from them for my 2003 Zo6 and it is a dead copy of the old design LG motorsports design except for the x-pipe instead of the h-pipe I had a 33hp and a 48ft/lb gain on the dyno and they sound awesome. The build quality was excellent and the fit was exact. I have had them on my car for 8000miles with no leaks or issues.

pantera1683 12-14-2010 10:32 AM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
I really love my Stainless Works headers but if I was still in the market I would give these a try. The price point is more inline with headers for other cars and they look fairly well made. They may or may not be as good as the others but at least they are a low cost option.

xlr8nflorida 12-14-2010 11:36 AM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mgbrv8 (Post 103409)
I just bought a set. I bought the full long tube exhaust from them for my 2003 Zo6 and it is a dead copy of the old design LG motorsports design except for the x-pipe instead of the h-pipe I had a 33hp and a 48ft/lb gain on the dyno and they sound awesome. The build quality was excellent and the fit was exact. I have had them on my car for 8000miles with no leaks or issues.

How much for ls1? My c5 needs a set.

FU 12-14-2010 02:23 PM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
http://i.ebayimg.com/18/!C!FWLOQ!Wk~...ofeb!~~_12.JPG

Mini cat's , pinches at the welds , grade of stainless.Check out the collector size and shape. MADE IN CHINA.

Sorry but Frankie no likey :nono:
------------
Maybe we should all buy inexpensive knockoff parts. And loose all of the suppliers that have been developing and researching parts for us. Be carefull.
My opinion, your opinion may vary.

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xlr8nflorida 12-14-2010 02:35 PM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Sorry but Frankie no likey :nono:

I agree, I have SW headers. A set of headers for $1,200 is kinda crazy but I guess based on volume sales, we simply have to pay it.

Everybody likes a quality product for less $ but prefer if its made in the good ole USA. :usa:

mgbrv8 12-14-2010 03:19 PM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xlr8nflorida (Post 103419)
How much for ls1? My c5 needs a set.


I payed $480 shipped but that was a while ago I think they went up to 6ish now sense the demand started going up.

Dave

mgbrv8 12-14-2010 03:24 PM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Ya I was going to make a set in the machine shop but when I saw this there just wasn't any way it was worth doing. Even then, any kit I would order from summit or jegs to make a set of headers would have been made overseas and I would have had to fab up some flanges. Oh and they arent mini cats they are just straight though with a little glass pack baffle, they are mainly ment to simulate cats they had the same set up on my ZO6 exhaust I ordered.

Also I just got a nice letter from the Warehouse in California with a notice that the Headers are shipped. Man that wasn't even three hours from the time of purchase, now thats service

Dave

-=Jeff=- 12-14-2010 03:49 PM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Dave,

post a review of them once received if you could.

This is a nice saving for those of us that have a limited budget for parts

mgbrv8 12-14-2010 03:53 PM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Jeff=- (Post 103433)
Dave,

post a review of them once received if you could.

This is a nice saving for those of us that have a limited budget for parts


Will Do Sir, gladly

Dave

pantera1683 12-14-2010 03:57 PM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
:happy1:

Pete 12-14-2010 04:09 PM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Jeff=- (Post 103433)
Dave,

post a review of them once received if you could.

This is a nice saving for those of us that have a limited budget for parts


Yeap,i agree.

What i would do is cut off those bullets/CATS and weld 3" pipes.
My Jeals cost me a total of $1700 w/shipping and coating.

You can buy these headers modify them and still have money left over to buy a nice exhaust system.

I think somebody should give them dimensions of an X-pipe wonder what they would charge for 3" x-pipe.

Competition is good.
:fahne:

Pete

A26B 12-14-2010 04:22 PM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xlr8nflorida (Post 103377)
409 is a titanium stabilized ferritic stainless steel which means that it is a steel alloy containing chromium. It contains less nickel and more carbon than 304 stainless steel. Ferritics are best suited for high temperature applications that require corrosion resistance and high strength. The principal use of 409 stainless steel is automotive exhaust systems and most catalytic converter shells are made of 409.

More workable and stable than 304, 409 will accept bending and heat cycling better than 304. It resists both atmospheric and exhaust gas corrosion. It is magnetic due to its higher carbon content. Through chemical reaction, it oxidizes to a "slight brownish hue" which aids in corrosion resistance. While it does not polish well, it offers the advantages of higher strength, lower cost and longer life due to its heat handling qualities.

We used 409 SS to make the Raptor turbo systems. I chose 409 for the stated properties, and agree that it does not polish well, but would go a step furter regarding the "slight brownish hue" to "pretty ugly brown" & hard to clean up.

I Jet coated my SS Works headers and recommend the process to others if you want to keep them nice looking.

ammrpm 12-14-2010 04:45 PM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Subscribing... I would like to know how these headers work out if anyone tries them!

Kb7tif 12-14-2010 05:30 PM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Dam its about time. Cool!
Im am sure there will be a market for them with a good review.
Headers used to be $149.00 for v-8's.

Aurora40 12-14-2010 07:52 PM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FU2 (Post 103425)
http://i.ebayimg.com/18/!C!FWLOQ!Wk~...ofeb!~~_12.JPG

Mini cat's , pinches at the welds , grade of stainless.Check out the collector size and shape. MADE IN CHINA.

Collector doesn't look much different than the SW ones that fit cats into the stock dimensions:

http://www.stainlessworks.net/cart/i...1FACTCAT-1.jpg

Where did you see they are made in China? I couldn't find anything on their website about where they are made.

Polo-1 12-14-2010 08:04 PM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
you girls whine more then my one year old son.

$1700 to much for headers............
I have been looking at the BMW M6, well try $5000-$7500 for headers for the V-10 uncoated Fu:censored:Me

mgbrv8 12-14-2010 08:15 PM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Polo-1 (Post 103452)
you girls whine more then my one year old son.

$1700 to much for headers............
I have been looking at the BMW M6, well try $5000-$7500 for headers for the V-10 uncoated Fu:censored:Me



Gentlemen we officially have a perspective. Thank you Polo-1

Pete 12-14-2010 11:07 PM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Polo-1 (Post 103452)
you girls whine more then my one year old son.

$1700 to much for headers............
I have been looking at the BMW M6, well try $5000-$7500 for headers for the V-10 uncoated Fu:censored:Me


Sorry,took so long to reply i just came to, after reading that i fainted.

Those headers better come with 60 hundred dollar bills. WTF

$7500 is like 10% of the cars sticker price.

Heck i think i'll buy another set of Jeals just to hang in my bedroom.:)

Pete

Polo-1 12-14-2010 11:23 PM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
this is better yet $13,000 I like the picture of V-8 header too



http://www.carstuffoutlet.com/produc...=p4250-c299690

I dont know, these just look like they should cost more then $7500 to me
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...-E63M6-175.jpg

YEA RIGHT

limey 12-14-2010 11:30 PM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Funny posts here, you guys remember how awful the 90-92 headers are from the factory, these ones look 10x's better already than anything GM put on the LT5.

$450.00 is a great price if they are a no drama installation.

Polo-1 12-14-2010 11:31 PM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
oh well back to C6 Z06 shopping:-D

mgbrv8 12-14-2010 11:46 PM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Polo-1 (Post 103468)
this is better yet $13,000 I like the picture of V-8 header too



http://www.carstuffoutlet.com/produc...=p4250-c299690

I dont know, these just look like they should cost more then $7500 to me
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...-E63M6-175.jpg

YEA RIGHT







$13000??? Why??? Was it made from stalins private unobtanium stash??


Dave

Kb7tif 12-15-2010 09:27 AM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mgbrv8 (Post 103472)
$13000??? Why??? Was it made from stalins private unobtanium stash??

Dave

Actually thats cheap compared to some of the options on some of these cars, its amazing to see.
But with Obama's estate tax you might as well spend as much as you can-- http://endingspending.com/map-2011/ This effects you.

ZZZZZR1 12-15-2010 09:43 AM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Polo-1 (Post 103452)
you girls whine more then my one year old son.

$1700 to much for headers............
I have been looking at the BMW M6, well try $5000-$7500 for headers for the V-10 uncoated Fu:censored:Me

Kevin...

You kill me!!! :sign10:

:cheers:

-=Jeff=- 12-15-2010 10:19 AM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mgbrv8 (Post 103472)
$13000??? Why??? Was it made from stalins private unobtanium stash??


Dave


BMW TAX ;)

scholtmj 12-15-2010 10:55 AM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Well someone bought the eBay pair I had been watching.


Who done it??

pantera1683 12-15-2010 10:56 AM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kb7tif (Post 103481)
Actually thats cheap compared to some of the options on some of these cars, its amazing to see.
But with Obama's estate tax you might as well spend as much as you can--

You're kidding right, the estate tax affects whom, less than 1% of the population?

Paying $6k+ for headers is just lunacy, but hey if you have money to burn why not.

scholtmj 12-15-2010 10:58 AM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pantera1683 (Post 103487)
You're kidding right, the estate tax affects who, less than 1% of the population?


Back on topic.

WHO GOT THEM?

Isn't 304 Stainless what Borla uses for their exhaust systems which carry a hefty warrenty?

Kb7tif 12-15-2010 11:34 AM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pantera1683 (Post 103487)
You're kidding right, the estate tax affects whom, less than 1% of the population?

Paying $6k+ for headers is just lunacy, but hey if you have money to burn why not.

You think more then 1% of the pop spend 5K on headers?

pantera1683 12-15-2010 11:44 AM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kb7tif (Post 103489)
You think more then 1% of the pop spend 5K on headers?

No, I was referring to people effected by the estate tax.

mgbrv8 12-15-2010 11:56 AM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scholtmj (Post 103488)
Back on topic.

WHO GOT THEM?

Isn't 304 Stainless what Borla uses for their exhaust systems which carry a hefty warrenty?





Well the ones I order just left CA right now and are heading my way.

Dave


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