Locobob's Interior Mod Thread
 

Well I was posting some stuff in the Audio and Electronics section but it seems hardly anyone visits that section... plus I have acquired a serious case of "while I'm there" so things have gone way beyond just putting in a new stereo head so here we are with a new comprehensive thread.

Anyhow my current mod plans include:
Kenwood 470 stereo head unit
Back up camera
Switch panel in place of the forward cup holder
LED interior bulbs
Heated seats
Sound absorption interior foam
94+ door panels
New steering wheel
Carbon fiberish refinishing of dash panels

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Here is the new steering wheel: Momo Commando... hub kit wasn't in the box so I guess it is shipping separately.

http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0332.jpg

Matches the factory red fairly well... I think it has a little less orange in it
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0338.jpg

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Here is the sound deadening stuff from Vettenuts, it is pre-cut closed cell foam like stuff with foil backing - complete kit including doors - weighs almost nothing which is important to me.
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0329.jpg

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Here is the switch panel I am putting together, it will be on/off for V1 radar detector with remote, gps hardwire, and the third switch is for later... not sure what just yet.

http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0303.jpg

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Here is the Kenwood H/U with PAC OEM-1 Bose adapter - going to try this with the Bose speakers for now and see how it works, also going to go ahead and pre-wire for an amp in case it doesn't work out so hot.
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0339.jpg

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I'm going to refinish all the dash plastic in carbon fiber look from American Hydrocarbon. I decided it would be a bit of a crime to alter the rare and in great condition power key bezel sooooo... I created a ZR-1 bezel to refinish using a base 91 bezel. This involved a few trips to the hardware store... mostly plastic and JB weld.

http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0340.jpg

http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0341.jpg

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What a great thread. This will be fun. I too, will be doing a radio this Winter.

Thanks for posting

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Perhaps some of you electrically savvy types can help me with a few things. I have the heated seat kit on the way, comes with switch so should just be a two wire install. Anyhow I have this unused connector under each seat which is for the sport seat lumbar and side bolsters - which I don't have. I think it will be perfect for the seat heaters.... except that it is always hot.
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0313.jpg

So I got to thinking... I could replace this connector with a relay - use the pink/black switched acc. wire to operate the relay and problem solved... seat heaters would be keyed power. The big orange coming in is on a 30amp breaker, the seat heaters use 3-5amps each. Then I got to thinking some more, perhaps I should also take power off this new relay for the switch panel I'm installing. I'm kinda concerned that the little 16 or 18 gauge pink/black wire is not going to like running both a radar detector, gps, third switch and operating the relay.
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0330.jpg

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Thanks, should be fun... haven't done a big walk-through thread in a while.

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Eventually this will be a good reference on how-to to custom cobble a new power key bezel since they are a bit tough to source.

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Now I know what wheel I want.. How much was it?

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Crowders has them 10% off - list was like $295ish
It's a really nice wheel in person, high quality/feels great, the online pics don't really do it justice.

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love that wheel! looking to go "mod red" in my 95 ZR-1 and this is the bomb. kinda hate giving up the air bag but like Ron White says

"make sure you hit something hard, I don't want to limp away from this"

the way I drive the air bag isn't gonna make much difference!

also thinking of "doing away" with the valet key switch and just use a plain old c4 piece. I don't have secondaries and can just throw it behind the valence piece.

let me know how well the carbon fiber wrap works. like to try that too.

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The pink/black should be fine to operate the relay as all it is doing is energizing a coil to close the contacts for the heavier wires, What I would do is run the pink/black to each heater switch to power it then run the switch to the relay, use the relay is the switch to the heating element

quick and dirty diagram:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...uick%20pic.png

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I like the heated seat approach Robert especially where you live you need it. I went old school with custom sheepskins it does the job for me in AZ.

I agree on the bezel as unmolested ones are HTF. I had the luxury of being able to carbon fiber mine as it was already trimed for the radio. If mine had not been pre cut using a stock one for your project just makes sense.

are you going with the hidden V1 display in the DIC? One of my best modding decisions and I know Andrew would still make you one. Any thoughts on the orange selfdimming LED compass mirror? You can see the hidden V1 display in my picture below with the rubber reset button and the bottom of the compass mirror

GC

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/...ps29c79ca3.jpg

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Locobob,

could you take a picture of the new wheel over the OEM wheel? I would like to see the size difference..

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The new wheel is 350mm or a bit under 14in, you can see that the center section is much less bulky so viewing the center cluster ought to be easier - currently with my wheel in the up position the bottom of the display is blocked a little.
Ron - I'm not too concerned about losing the airbag... it's 20+ years old so who knows if it even works anymore not to mention that airbag technology in the early 90's wasn't exactly stellar to begin with.

http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...8/IMG_0349.jpg

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Quick and dirty? I'll show you quick and dirty lol... this is what I was envisioning.
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...obob68/IMG.jpg

I'm looking at 8a 145-0

My thought was to use the lumbar circuit to provide power for all the accessories around the center console since its a much bigger wire than the little pink/black acc wire. Any reason this is a bad idea???

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Does anyone know where I can get a couple of these metal clips? They are broken off on my replacement bezel.
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...8/IMG_0347.jpg

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Working on getting my head unit lined up with the bezel, its kind of a pain in the *** since you can only get to one on the bracket screws without pulling the unit out of the dash. Basically its adjust bracket, slide into dash, put on bezel, note what direction things need to go, pull out, adjust bracket, repeat. I'm using the Metra install kit 99-3051, the brackets are plastic which isn't great but I think it'll work.

http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...8/IMG_0345.jpg

http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...8/IMG_0343.jpg

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Yeah I'm leaning that way on the V1 display, I bought a spare DIC to mod - just looks to be a matter of cutting out some plastic in the back. I've also kicked around putting it in the RV mirror or just leaving it in the vent above the DIC... decisions decisions. One thing that crossed my mind is that with no air bag and no low tire warning I don't have all that many warning lights left. If I attached some wires to the DIC circuit board I could take those remaining warning lights and move them to the unused areas in the gauge cluster - I could then chop off the screen portion of the DIC and put a GPS in its place. Hmmmm

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That should work just fine.. Might want to fuse them though, not sure if lumbar was a fuse or breaker

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Lumbar is on a 30 amp breaker, looking at the fuse block details on 8a -11 -7 it looks like three things are run off this breaker (PWR ACCY): power door locks (with a 15amp fuse), power seat switches (direct), and power sport seat functions (direct). And yes inline fuses are a great idea, the V1 already has one. My rationale behind doing it this way is that it creates a pretty clean power distribution center for 5 different things which are all close together. How did you do that nice looking diagram by the way? Is there a program that does that?

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That was one with Paint.. Lol

I have used Visio before as well

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Been mainly working on getting the insulation kit installed for the last few days, it's a big job because everything in the interior has to come out. The Vettenuts pre-cut kit has been pretty good so far, I have had to make a few alterations here and there but having the basic shapes pre-cut is a nice time saver.

Here is the rear cargo area with floor, back wall, and wheel housing pieces installed. You can see the two holes I made for wiring in the driver seat back wall and also the hole in the center rear of the cargo area. I installed rubber grommets to protect the wires. The hole on the right side of the picture is for the electric exhaust cut out valves and the red wire is power for the back-up camera. The left hole will be for RCA wires: video for back up cam and 6 channels for a possible future stand alone amp.
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0353.jpg

Pass. side floor and sill
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0356.jpg

Pass. side floor and tunnel. The wires you see are for the rear mounted battery, they will sandwich between the two insulation layers and tuck up against the tunnel.
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0359.jpg

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The pre-cut trans tunnel sides don't quite meet at the top.
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0362.jpg

So I used some of the extra material provided and filled in the gaps, hopefully this won't cause any clearance issues, I don't think it will since the material is quite thin and compressible.
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0367.jpg

The pre-cut piece for the seat back wall was one piece and taller than it need to be, I cut it in half in order to make it easier to work with and trimmed a good bit off the top.
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0365.jpg

http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0369.jpg

When putting the drivers side foot-well carpet back in don't forget to tuck it under this plastic piece which serves to keep it from getting into the accelerator pedal. This piece of plastic is a bitch - it's held on by two screws (easy) and a plastic body rivet which is just an absolute pain.
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0372.jpg

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My steering wheel hub kit finally showed up. I decided to go with the NRG quick release hub - figured being able to quickly remove the steering wheel will come in handy at times. Here is the NRG quick release and "short" hub, together they are 4in tall, adding the Momo wheel the whole assembly is about 5 1/2 which should put it fairly close to where the stock wheel sits. If I decide I want to come out further I think I will just buy a spacer which mounts between the wheel and the quick release - the spacer will come off with the wheel and a part of the quick release as a single unit.
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0373.jpg

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So what colors are you changing on the interior

I know that panel by the accelerator all too well

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Just adding a little red to the all black, door panels, hush panels, and steering wheel.

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Hidden V1 display. It will fit.......

http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/d...ZR-1/ZR1V1.jpg

Before I had all the interior pieces Am HC carbon fiber covered. Too shiny
for me to photograph

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How does the diameter of the hub and release compare to the diameter of the steering column ignition switch housing?

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Looks pretty clean Ted, only thing I don't like about putting the remote down there is that it is too far out of line of sight. I didn't know that you did the Am HC, how do you like it? Hopefully it wears well.

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They appear to be pretty close, I will get some pics once I get it installed.

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So today I decided to switch gears and work on the steering wheel install. The Momo instructions kind of suck and NRG doesn't even give you any. Anyhow I was looking at all this stuff and couldn't figure out where everything went so I called Crowder and got things cleared up real fast... bottom line is that you don't use all the stuff, some of it is for different applications.

Here is the steering wheel torn down - just need to go rent a puller. It was pretty easy to get it to this point, well once I figured out that the two screws holding the cover on were T30's grrrr hard to see down in those screw holes. I will probably just cut the airbag wire at the connector under the dash and pull the whole thing out from the front so it doesn't get tangled up with stuff. The shaft nut is a 13/16, couldn't find that socket in my tool box and was about to add it to my shopping list.... then I realized that 13/16 is a spark plug size... Duh.
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0376.jpg

Here is the stuff that you do NOT need when putting a Momo Commando wheel on a NRG quick release.
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Base of the quick release and short hub. The ground wire comes off the QR and connects to the hub wire which just grounds through the hub to the shaft. Yellow (pos) wire will snake through the hub opening and connect to the factory horn wire.
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0378.jpg

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Quick release hub showing the contacts for the horn.
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0380.jpg

This split ring is the adapter for fitting the Momo horn button to the NRG QR, it just slips down inside the QR and allows the tabs on the horn button to latch on to something. The horn wiring is pretty obvious here... only problem is that both grounds have a male spade so will need to put a female connector on the wire side.
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0381.jpg

Here the adapter ring is installed.
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0382.jpg

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I don't believe you should have issues with the excess wire and the airbag connector at the top of the column(you should be able to just coil it and tie it) and you might actually need that for the canceling cam to sync with BUT if you do want to or need to do something with the column harness there should be no reason to cut it. It should "fish" up the column easily for removal. Did you get a 2 Ohm resistor yet to defeat the SIR light in the DIC or did you just remove the bulb?

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Nifty work on the toggle switches!

But I surely gotta' dis-agree with Mr. White on his air bag rationale; I hit one in a head-on - 55-0 in 0, NO EXAGGERATION, ALL ON THE POLICE REPORT, AND I LIMP, FOR LIFE (about 14.5 G's negative). Unlike the drinker tho', who's been recycled for 7 years now... :(

Just make sure you're @ 55+.......

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Well there might be room, can't see yet. I just got the wheel off and now I'm trying to figure out how the SIR coil comes out. Is there any advantage to using a resistor? I have the DIC off so pulling the bulb seems like the easiest route if one is as good as the other.

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Aha... little spring clip around the shaft I didn't notice. Here is the coil pulled out, not really seeing any way to remove this thing without cutting the connector off the wire under the dash (visible in background) and then pulling it out through the column.

http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...8/IMG_0383.jpg

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I turn the V1 sound up all the way, so when it goes off it scares the *)@# out of me and I lift off the gas.
Then I look down to see if the source is in front of me or behind. The bigger issue is where to put the main unit.
It gets too hot on the dash.
I did the Am HC (Pat Scorzetti in FL.) in 2008. I HAD to do something because the "rubber" was lifting off.
I think I mailed him 9 pieces. I like it and it's VERY easy to clean. I'll try to find or take some pictures.
I'm anxiously waiting to see your final interior pictures. Did you take any "safety precautions" dealing with the air bags?