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Atari_Prime 10-15-2020 12:46 PM

Re: FS: 1991 Chevrolet ZR-1 NCRS Top Flight (99.5%) survivor. 9894 miles
 
It's a beautiful car, and the mileage is great. The problem is, and I mean no offense by this, the price. Pristine examples of 91' ZR-1s are selling for around $30k at most. At around $37k, its just well above market.


While I personally would prefer a 91' (because I like the wheel) over a 94' or 95', most of the market is for the last two year models bc of the a-mold wheel that the car came with. And those cars are selling for between $24k and $28k. Ones with under 5k miles are going for about $28k to $35k depending on rareness of options/ownership records.



That said, some have sold for more than expected over the last few months so that is hopeful for values in the future.

bowtiguy 10-15-2020 01:30 PM

Re: FS: 1991 Chevrolet ZR-1 NCRS Top Flight (99.5%) survivor. 9894 miles
 
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Originally Posted by Atari_Prime (Post 315315)
It's a beautiful car, and the mileage is great. The problem is, and I mean no offense by this, the price. Pristine examples of 91' ZR-1s are selling for around $30k at most. At around $37k, its just well above market.


While I personally would prefer a 91' (because I like the wheel) over a 94' or 95', most of the market is for the last two year models bc of the a-mold wheel that the car came with. And those cars are selling for between $24k and $28k. Ones with under 5k miles are going for about $28k to $35k depending on rareness of options/ownership records.

That said, some have sold for more than expected over the last few months so that is hopeful for values in the future.

In your expert opinion, pristine examples are worth $30K at most.

Does that mean your offer of $23K still stands? If so, I'm guessing you wouldn't consider this car a pristine example?

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Not interested in the A molds. With the year and mileage, I am interested at about $23k."

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Erik 10-15-2020 01:38 PM

Re: FS: 1991 Chevrolet ZR-1 NCRS Top Flight (99.5%) survivor. 9894 miles
 
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Originally Posted by bowtiguy (Post 315320)
In your expert opinion, pristine examples are worth $30K at most.

Does that mean your offer of $23K still stands? If so, I'm guessing you wouldn't consider this car a pristine example?

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Not interested in the A molds. With the year and mileage, I am interested at about $23k."

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I?d take it fir $25k! :)

Atari_Prime 10-15-2020 01:46 PM

Re: FS: 1991 Chevrolet ZR-1 NCRS Top Flight (99.5%) survivor. 9894 miles
 
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Originally Posted by bowtiguy (Post 315320)
In your expert opinion, pristine examples are worth $30K at most.

Does that mean your offer of $23K still stands? If so, I'm guessing you wouldn't consider this car a pristine example?

"Atari_Prime
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Not interested in the A molds. With the year and mileage, I am interested at about $23k."

post #8 https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...894-miles.html


No idea why people get so upset when you try to help them. If you want to get offended, that is your perogative. I can go get several 90' and 91' ZR-1s with under 20k miles, in some cases under 15k miles, for about $17k to $20k. No, I don't think I'm interested in this car, I'm looking for aqua blue, turquoise, yellow, black, or polo green and preference in that order, but best of luck with sale.

bowtiguy 10-15-2020 01:51 PM

Re: FS: 1991 Chevrolet ZR-1 NCRS Top Flight (99.5%) survivor. 9894 miles
 
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Originally Posted by Erik (Post 315321)
I?d take it fir $25k! :)

SOLD! does that make it 40K can $$ all in? :handshak:

Erik 10-15-2020 01:58 PM

Re: FS: 1991 Chevrolet ZR-1 NCRS Top Flight (99.5%) survivor. 9894 miles
 
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Originally Posted by bowtiguy (Post 315323)
SOLD! does that make it 40K can $$ all in? :handshak:

Damn near, yes.

I looked at a LOT of Corvettes before I bought mine, and yours was certainly the prettiest. If I would have really stretched for one, it would have been yours!

However, I do have a few unchecked lottery tickets.... :)

bowtiguy 10-15-2020 02:04 PM

Re: FS: 1991 Chevrolet ZR-1 NCRS Top Flight (99.5%) survivor. 9894 miles
 
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Originally Posted by Atari_Prime (Post 315322)
No idea why people get so upset when you try to help them. If you want to get offended, that is your perogative. I can go get several 90' and 91' ZR-1s with under 20k miles, in some cases under 15k miles, for about $17k to $20k. No, I don't think I'm interested in this car, I'm looking for aqua blue, turquoise, yellow, black, or polo green and preference in that order, but best of luck with sale.

I'm not offended, just irritated. I guess I really don't see how giving your unsolicited opinion on a for sale thread that you didn't start helps me out really?!?! I expect Internet appraisals on Facebook, just seams below grade for this group.

Like you point out, they made nearly 7,000 ZR-1's and there are several at your indicated price point, but are they sorted? I mean EVERYTHING gone through... turn key, NCRS Top Flight certified ( not delivery certified ), unmolested cars? not at $17-20K.

APPLES to Oranges really.

In my best Star Wars Jedi voice " This isn't the car you are looking for ".

viper107 10-15-2020 02:19 PM

Re: FS: 1991 Chevrolet ZR-1 NCRS Top Flight (99.5%) survivor. 9894 miles
 
cheap zr1 cars are not sorted, they have all the normal things that need attention/ and are not super clean/ now im shure every now and then someone hits the jackpot as with any deal sometimes, super clean z and well sorted all there/certified- not gonna happen with a under 20k sale

DRM500RUBYZR-1 10-15-2020 02:21 PM

Re: FS: 1991 Chevrolet ZR-1 NCRS Top Flight (99.5%) survivor. 9894 miles
 
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Originally Posted by Atari_Prime (Post 315322)
No idea why people get so upset when you try to help them. If you want to get offended, that is your perogative. I can go get several 90' and 91' ZR-1s with under 20k miles, in some cases under 15k miles, for about $17k to $20k. No, I don't think I'm interested in this car, I'm looking for aqua blue, turquoise, yellow, black, or polo green and preference in that order, but best of luck with sale.

Wow, again you seem to find the best deals around!

Go get em!

Let us know how many you get.

:cheers:
Marty

Atari_Prime 10-15-2020 02:30 PM

Re: FS: 1991 Chevrolet ZR-1 NCRS Top Flight (99.5%) survivor. 9894 miles
 
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Originally Posted by bowtiguy (Post 315328)
I'm not offended, just irritated. I guess I really don't see how giving your unsolicited opinion on a for sale thread that you didn't start helps me out really?!?! I expect Internet appraisals on Facebook, just seams below grade for this group.

Like you point out, they made nearly 7,000 ZR-1's and there are several at your indicated price point, but are they sorted? I mean EVERYTHING gone through... turn key, NCRS Top Flight certified ( not delivery certified ), unmolested cars? not at $17-20K.

APPLES to Oranges really.

In my best Star Wars Jedi voice " This isn't the car you are looking for ".


The opinion was offered b/c the car had been for sale for a while. After taking a look at it, the why seemed pretty obvious. It's all a question of whether the sale is the goal or whether getting the right price is the goal. I've got a Viper that I probably wouldn't sell for "market" whatever that may be, largely because I love the car and have no interest in selling. But if the right offer came along, sure I would sell it.


With regard to 'sorted' v. not. I don't really expect any car I buy to be sorted. Most will likely need new tires if the intent is to drive the car. Most are going to have some quirky part that the prior owner installed and will need to be removed, maybe a new clutch, or windshield (if you can find one). I expect to have to spend $2-4k sorting at minimum no matter how pristine it looks. But I take that into account when pricing the car. If the car is $20k, I fully expect to spend at least $3k sorting it, maybe $5k making it pristine. If the car is $25k, I wouldn't expect it to need more than tires and maybe a slightly touch up in paint, maybe some minor wear that will need attention in the future. If the car is $30k, it should be perfect, but every perfect car I've seen still needs something.


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