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mgbrv8 07-26-2017 01:07 AM

Re: ECM And Ignition Module Availability/ replacement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by A26B (Post 265278)
Project in Progress
Update


The following image is the prototype circuit board and billet enclosure. It may take several more months to complete the prototype module & actual engine dyno testing, before beta test units are placed in the field.

http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-nkg90o...0.1280.jpg?c=2


Jerry have you thought about setting up a kickstarter or something of the sort to help you with the development? I'm more then positive alot of owners would like to contribute.

https://www.kickstarter.com/

Dave

rkreigh 07-26-2017 05:01 AM

Re: ECM And Ignition Module Availability/ replacement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by A26B (Post 265278)
Project in Progress
Update


The following image is the prototype circuit board and billet enclosure. It may take several more months to complete the prototype module & actual engine dyno testing, before beta test units are placed in the field.

http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-nkg90o...0.1280.jpg?c=2

dude you are the master!

but on the parallel track what anything happening with Ron and Raptor?

I'm still interested in the megasquirt and coil on plug as I have no romance with stock and someone in need can have my DIS

the megasquirt looks like if it was piggy backed into the factory setup a bit better all those dumb gauges would work for mileage I could care less I need to talk Phil into giving me his!!

Anyway, Jerry, great job. That allows you to push the easy button and keep the cars running well

I'm interested as always in turbos and the megasquirt seems the way to go or a hollley, or high end ecm I think one of the boat coils will work and fit nicely we looked at the coils from a saturn sky redline and they are close (and really cheap!!)

Graham, I'd love to hear more about tuning the turbo cars with the linc and ideas to cut over the lt5 to a bit better engine management setup

megasquirt is certainly cost effective the ms3 is down to 1200 or so with a wiring harness I don't know what the raptor plug and play deal costs but as graham points out you lose a few things on dash for mpg ect...

going to take lots of tuning time as well

jss06c6 07-26-2017 08:26 AM

Re: ECM And Ignition Module Availability/ replacement
 
I admire the dedication Jerry. I'll certainly buy one the moment you indicate it is available. Thanks again from all if us, for the work you're doing and the invested dollars to help us enjoy the LT-5😉

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XfireZ51 07-26-2017 09:43 AM

Re: ECM And Ignition Module Availability/ replacement
 
I would agree w Ron in that if a redesign of the ICM is contemplated, then certainly incorporate the option of utilizing newer technology, ie CnP. Some may object aesthetically, but I think there alternatives for that. Implementing individual coil per cylinder allows for longer dwell times, which would benefit higher rpm operation. With hotter spark, u can increase plug gap making for a smoother idle (nice for cammed motors. The GN crowd uses CnP allowing higher boost without blowing out the spark.

A26B 07-26-2017 11:21 AM

Re: ECM And Ignition Module Availability/ replacement
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XfireZ51 (Post 265305)
I would agree w Ron in that if a redesign of the ICM is contemplated, then certainly incorporate the option of utilizing newer technology, ie CnP. Some may object aesthetically, but I think there alternatives for that. Implementing individual coil per cylinder allows for longer dwell times, which would benefit higher rpm operation. With hotter spark, u can increase plug gap making for a smoother idle (nice for cammed motors. The GN crowd uses CnP allowing higher boost without blowing out the spark.

I agree conceptually. Insofar as the big picture is concerned, the larger concern is for a stock function, direct replacement. My personal ZR-1 is highly modified and could likely benefit from CoP. Having said that, the segment of the market subscribing to such modifications is very small.

Spending more on R&D for non-stock bells & whistles runs the cost up higher moving the DIS Module towards economically impractical. FWIW, the DIS/ICM project would not be feasible to produce if the economics had to stand alone. It's only because we can let other item sales contribute to the cost burden, that the DIS module project is happening. We will let the performance aftermarket go for the performance enhancing products.

Re: Kickstarter suggestion
Jerrys Gaskets is a sole proprietorship, meaning I don't have partners to have to consult or communicate with about how their money is being spent, production schedules, design features, etc. Been there & done that during my real career. That's the way I would like to keep it.

We (Karen & I) retired several years ago & enjoy our freedom, such as it is. Simple is better for us, so taking on "partners" in development isn't in the cards. We have done a couple of advance "Group Buys" which in function perform like Kickstarter would with advance sales. Thanks for the suggestion though Dave.

In summary, it's the support generated by this ZR-1 Net Registry forum that has enabled Jerrys Gaskets to literally reach customers around the world. Thanks to everyone for all of your continuing support. :cheers:

LGAFF 07-26-2017 11:26 AM

Re: ECM And Ignition Module Availability/ replacement
 
Pretty amazing work Jerry!!!

LGAFF 07-26-2017 11:31 AM

Re: ECM And Ignition Module Availability/ replacement
 
PS: Maybe you can use your knowledge to address the V12 Mercedes coil issues.... $1000 per coil :(......lol

XfireZ51 07-27-2017 12:20 PM

Re: ECM And Ignition Module Availability/ replacement
 
Jerry,

Your efforts are laudable and thank you for supporting the community this way. We are finally recognizing how critical the ICM is, something I have been harping about for some time now. My premise for asking about other options stems from my belief that the LT5 was clearly ahead of its time. We see that even now when fairly straightforward modification yields significant results in performance. It would be great to see how much better it would be adapting newer technology to an already outstanding engine.

PhillipsLT5 07-27-2017 09:33 PM

Re: ECM And Ignition Module Availability/ replacement
 
Amazing that we have Jerrys support


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Hog 07-29-2017 03:47 AM

Re: ECM And Ignition Module Availability/ replacement
 
Don't feel defeated if a CNP(Coil Near Plug) like the GEN 3/4/5, the ignition setups that use an actual short spark plug wire. While there are benefits, they really don't show on the dyno over a multi coil setup.
On modified engines you might see single digit differences as compared with a single coil distributer equipped EFI setup like the 96-02 CSFI Vortec truck, which uses the same coil as the GEN 2 LT1/4/99 SBC, where the coil is seeing 8 times the duty cycle than a coil per cylinder ignition .

Great work!


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