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Think I cornered the market on these....lol
PepBoys has the best "Help" section IMO. They have way more of a selection than AutoZone and Advance Auto. Ended up going to three PepBoys to get the rest of the connectors. Did a cut on two and they fit perfect. There is also some flexibility with these connectors in that the attaching tubes can move to accommodate their final attachment. For anyone that will have the need to address the original connector in the future, IMO these vacuum tube connectors should work just fine... I own the market on these....;) http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...512_161739.jpg the cut... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...512_164031.jpg fitting good... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...512_164330.jpg lines fit very tight & snug....no reason to come loose.... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...512_164906.jpg |
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Looks better than OEM
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The only thing that I have concern about is how well these will hold up with the engine heat. As the original connector is thicker in the elbow and again the "new" ones are more pliable, which is not a bad thing... I guess I'll find out in time!!! lol I could spend a lot of time under here cleaning everything, but if I do that I won't be driving the Z soon.....just cleaning what I can get to:).... I also changed out the vacuum reservoir. I have a few NOS replacements, so I thought why not change it out....while I'm in here... reservoir removed....area needs a clean-up... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...512_172136.jpg cleaned and looking better than before.... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...512_173332.jpg new unit in..... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...512_173628.jpg |
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Hey Tom
I know I'm late to the game but here is some pics of my plenum pull and some, I hope its helpful https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...1&l=8f46fa4533 Dave:salute: |
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There isn't really any link for the test, George told me of a procedure using a flashlight to help determine if your primary and secondary blades are fully closed. All I did was turn out the lights, so that you have complete darkness and shine the flashlight through the front and back of each blade. Now as I have found out, this is more of a test for the secondary blades as opposed to the primary blade. Reason being as was mentioned to me, is that the primary blade does not close completely, so there will be light that does shine through on that blade. Dominic has a procedure to check out the primary blade by using a thin piece of paper and see how much resistance you have pulling it through the bottom of the primary blade when in the closed position. It should pull through with resistance. Just to be clear, at this point I am not sure or exactly know what is the cause of my idle issue. I will have to wait until everything is back together and even then I may not know the actual cause because I am making adjustments and checking everything out under the plenum, and the TB. If it still persists after, I would definitely lean towards the TB. Hope this helps..... Quote:
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Before I continue on today's events, this is what I received in the mail today, my first birthday gift to myself a day before.....:-D
Carter did and always does an outstanding job....thank you sir!!! Now if I can only get my old cover off my TB.....:eek: http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...515_192640.jpg |
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Doing double duty today, working on the heater box on the 74 and the TB for the ZR-1. Thought I had paint stripper out at the 74 as Phil suggested, but not so....also am having a hard time removing the TB cover. It feels like it is cemented in.....lol I don't think its been apart in 23 years....lol
in the following pics, you can see the buildup after all these years, really needs a good cleaning. I know I am going against some of the info posted on TB's from members about leaving blade surfaces untouched, etc. And then some members suggest a good cleaning. I am going with a good cleaning and I have already removed most of the "dag". My reasoning is that if this was a replacement NOS unit, it might not have the "dag" on it. So its like starting from scratch. I might be right, or I might be wrong. Will have to wait and see how everything turns out!!! check out the throttle shaft and the dirt on it.... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...515_125719.jpg http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...515_125710.jpg rear of the TB... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...515_125824.jpg more dirt and you can notice the wear mark on the actuator cam follower. it's only a slight wear, so I think it can be smoothed out nicely... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...515_165049.jpg http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...515_165147.jpg |
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preliminary cleaning....getting there......
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Just posted the following on my Poll thread. Reposting here for anyone interested....
Just received a NOS EVAP connector assembly today. As you will notice in the pics, there is a black plastic tie around the connector. And the plastic "lines" fit in the connector very tight. There is even one spot where the "tube" seems to be dented, maybe from when the installer was inserting the tube into the connector...JMO So IMO this seems to confirm that there was a plastic tie installed from MM when the engine was assembled. Again, JMO.....FWIW... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...518_151223.jpg http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...518_151247.jpg http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...518_151253.jpg |
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FYI if interested, the spark plug wires on the RS of the engine,
#2 #4 #6 and #8 plugs wires have the one large 4 slot wire separator attached at the rear of the engine. Then there are supposed to be 3 more additional wire separators, one with 4 slots to hold all the wires and 2 more with 3 slots before the wires go onto the plugs. On my RS, I am missing 2 of the 3 slot wire separators. I don't know if these are even available anymore... Also the large separator on the rear of the engine should have the wires in the following order. Top #2, then #4, then #6 and then #8 on the bottom. There is also conduit on #6 and #8 plug wires in that area. Then the 4 slot separator that is next in line should have #2 on the right top, #4 on the left top, #6 on the right bottom and #8 on the left bottom. I know I have a lot of time on my hands.....lol Also #8 plug wire is now replaced... the rear wire separator... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...518_151342.jpg the next 4 slot wire connector... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...518_151348.jpg |
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LS plug wires #1 #3 #5 and #7 are routed the same as the RS with the same separators. I am also missing 2 of the 3 wire slot separators on this side...
Large rear 4 slot separator....Top #1, then #3, then #5, and #7. #5 & #7 should both have the conduit on them, but my #5 is missing that conduit. Easily replaced. The next 4 slot separated again is similar to the RS, with #1 top left, #3 top right, #5 lower left and #7 lower right. For someone replacing or wanting to get their wires in the correct orientation, this is the result of my research....FWIW.... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...518_160413.jpg http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...518_160423.jpg |
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This is what happens when your retired....lol you start thinking!!!!
Prepped and painted one of the water outlet pipes with the paint that has been suggested by Cliff. Not sure if that is the shade I would like to have, although it is growing on me. Compared it with the air horn that I repainted recently with the "correct" shade of paint from Jerrys. And yes you can see a difference. Since we'll be away for a few days, it will give me time to think about which way to go!!! Overall I am very happy with how the one pipe turned out. I may even experiment and put a coat of Jerrys paint over Cliffs and see what I come out with. Decisions, decisions, decisions.....lol my open unscientific paint booth... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...519_093050.jpg very light coats...good results... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...519_094905.jpg http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...519_094851.jpg the difference between the two pipes....painted and untouched factory... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...519_094820.jpg difference between the painted pipe and the recently painted air horn... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...519_095506.jpg |
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Back into the booth again, this time with the RS outlet pipe. The more I look at this shade, the more I like it...the plenum may get this shade after all and then change the color of the air horn.......:rolleyes::eek:
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The lighter color looks quite nice. It'd probably make the LT5 "pop" a bit more than the oem color.
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This is the high temp heat paint that Cliff has used...it gives a very good finish as you have commented on and can see in the pics...I am very satisfied with the results... A side note, I did not even do a "heavy" color coat as I have done in the past. IMO it was not needed to get the achieved results today... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...519_113234.jpg |
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Back home from the shore, although not great weather, still good to get away....
Also would like to wish everyone a Happy Memorial Day, and to be thankful for everyone in the Armed Services, past, present and future. For without Them, our Freedom would be non-existent...:usa: Time to get back to work, just finished painting the plenum in the open paint booth....:eek: Took awhile for prep, used Clorox wipes (they are without bleach) and do a great job of removing grease on aluminum as mentioned before. After a number of wipe downs, I then used the Mineral Spirits for a few more additional wipe downs to make sure the surface was as clean as could be.... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...527_123405.jpg before.... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...527_103107.jpg one of my famous tape jobs....lol http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...527_114830.jpg http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...527_114821.jpg |
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first coat...
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...527_115244.jpg followed the same technique used on the coolant pipes, light even sprays with drying time in between, and no heavy color coat!!! http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...527_120922.jpg the finished product...I think it came out decent... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...527_120931.jpg I kind of like the lettering painted silver, I may just leave it this way.... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...527_121201.jpg |
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Looks great! Curious to see it back on the car.
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Decided to replace a PCV hose while I am in there...although the hoses are very hard, IMO it is not necessary to change them out just to change them...unless there is vivid deterioration or a split in the hose itself. Again, this is JMO, after taking off the RS hose and cutting it open, it is still very pliable on the inside and showed no signs of age. And of course with the hose off of the vehicle, the outside does not feel as hard as when on the vehicle. And the advice given to me before was to leave them alone, but I was curious to see if any type of debris was inside of the hose, there wasn't any... I only replaced the RS and am leaving the LS in place. For those doing a plenum pull for the first time, this is just my findings. Others may have different opinions. And this was again on my vehicle, yours may vary... "original" hose from what I could tell... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...527_151043.jpg a little crud going on in the area... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...527_161533.jpg cleaned and ready for install... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...527_162623.jpg new hose installed....a few more things and I'll be ready to install the plenum... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...527_171032.jpg |
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Was even tempted to take the car out of service for a longer period of time to do a really thorough cleaning, but more anxious to get it back together soon, miss driving the Z. Besides the 74 is also keeping me busy... So just cleaning up as best as I can... Still thinking about what to do with the plenum numbers and letters, other than painting them black. Right now staying silver is my choice. |
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Giving me ideas Cliff....thought about the strip down the center. Don't even want to think about removing the cam covers this season, too much going on, especially with the 74.
I know there maybe different techniques for painting the numbers and letters, how did you paint them? I know someone mentioned using an artist brush. I also remember reading how MM painted them, but forgot what their procedure was, must be the age....:) Your parts always look good, great job as usual...:thumbsup: Side note, does anyone have a suggestion on how to remove the throttle plate cover? I really don't want to end up destroying the TB...lol, but this plate is really stuck on there.....will be tomorrow's project among other things... |
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Keep up the great work and thanks for taking time to document it!!! Awesome!!
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If you insert the original screws into several holes of the TB Cover Plate but do not thread them you can tilt the screws and create considerable uplift in the TB Plate Cover. You might try tilting the screws at several angles. Or.....use an allen wrench of the size of the holes in the TB Cover Plate which if fits relatively tight would give you even more leverage. Just do not insert the allen wrench into the threaded area of the TB. Do not try to wedge with a flat head screw driver between the TB Plate Cover and TB as that will just mess up the TB. |
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Will also try the screw method. I was also thinking about using one of the small suction cups I have, that might also work. Lol, I first tried with a small tip screw driver and saw that wasn't going anywhere. No damage done... If all else fails, there is always the hammer and chisel method....then I could have a very "custom" TB...:) |
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Welcome, looks like you are doing a fantastic job, your parts look great. The only thing you should be aware of is using the clear coat. Reason being is that other members have stated that it will turn yellowish as time goes by from the heat of the engine. This is just a FYI, as I have no experience with using clear coat on the engine parts. I would like to do the cam covers, but will have to wait.... What method did you use to paint the numbers and letters? So far we have some that use a stick end of a q-tip and others who have used an artist brush. If I do paint them, now would be the ideal time to do so, since the plenum is off. I still like the all silver look. But that can change real quick...lol |
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Not doing too much today, checked out some of the plenum hose lines, and found some were a little crusty on one end. The 5/16" hoses still look in good shape, so a simple cleanup and dry is in order. The one hose appears to be molded, but I imagine that over time it took its shape from the heat where it resides...
one end... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...528_150155.jpg the other end... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...528_150156.jpg both hoses cleaned...maybe a little Back to Black is in order... http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...528_150649.jpg GM part # 5/16 GM6165M...I imagine that this is an original hose from the factory, or could it be a replacement hose at one time???...:dontknow: http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...528_150658.jpg |
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Thanks for your thoughts Tom. I understand we all have difficult choices to make for our hobbies. We love the house and neighborhood, but not a real garage to me. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...8d7a709f3e.jpg As you can see I can't lift high enough to do serious work in this house. Fortunately I have access to military base auto hobby shops here with lifts so might have to compromise. Dude, the Quick Jacks cost $750 to ship here. I might have to pass. Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry |
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Hi Craig my ZR-1 came from Japan in 2013- 2014 I have no history apart from it was first registered in Japan in 1992 my ZR-1 is 0308 1990 and was a California vehicle I wonder how or why it came to be in Japan could have been someone in the Military who knows and maybe if you don't take your ZR-1 home it may end up in New Zealand
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