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pantera1683 12-21-2010 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mgbrv8 (Post 103830)
...and I had just finish a 10,700 mile road trip in it.

Wow, that is some road trip! Your behind must really be sore:)

tccrab 12-21-2010 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pantera1683 (Post 103832)
Wow, that is some road trip! Your behind must really be sore:)

Boy oh boy!
A *REALLY, really. really* long road trip.
What could possibly possess anyone to drive from Sea to Shining Sea three times?

Do tell!!

TomC
'Crabs

GOLDCYLON 12-21-2010 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mgbrv8 (Post 103830)
As I stoop under the fire fight. I have a little off topic question, as I was removing my factory headers off the car I looked into the back side of each. I noticed that the drivers side headers catalytic converter was melted in the middle. Now would this be a sign of failing injectors, a failure of the smog system, a tune issue ( my car has a factory tune now but has had a tune on it in the past I believe), or a O2 sensor starting to degrade. It wasn't setting any codes before I tore it down and I had just finish a 10,700 mile road trip in it. Any constructive input would be greatly appriciate. Thank you gentalmen.

Dave


None of the above its possible that a piece of substrate broke off the honeycomb and melted into place. Impacts cause these to break apart before they ultimately fail. when they fail they start blowing chunks and the honeycomb tends to mold into a large ball of material. You will hear it as it sounds like a chock full of nuts under the car. This is a reason why a lot of us have gone to headers and Hi flow cats. Only other option is to find a NOS cat and exhaust manifold or hang a used one.

GOLDCYLON 12-21-2010 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kb7tif (Post 103828)
These OBX headers will never take the place of a new set of Stainless works and they shouldn't.
But looks like a halfway decent option to paying 1200+ headers. These would be great for getting some extra oomph from that just purchased daily driver. If I had just did a stoke job or engine upgrade another 1200 is nothing.


Concur

mgbrv8 12-21-2010 03:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pantera1683 (Post 103832)
Wow, that is some road trip! Your behind must really be sore:)

Ya it was a father a son road trip. I bought the car from Hammer and it was a impeccable example. We then drove it 10700 miles, 31 states and 55 museums over a seven and a half week period during the summer of 2009. Any where my father wanted to go I took him. It was a incredible jurney in a amazing car and every mile produce unforgettable memories.

And thank you GOLDCYLON for the insight on the catalytic converters

Dave

GOLDCYLON 12-21-2010 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mgbrv8 (Post 103839)
Ya it was a father a son road trip. I bought the car from Hammer and it was a impeccable example. We then drove it 10700 miles, 31 states and 55 museums over a seven and a half week period during the summer of 2009. Any where my father wanted to go I took him. It was a incredible jurney in a amazing car and every mile produce unforgettable memories.

And thank you GOLDCYLON for the insight on the catalytic converters

Dave


Father and son trips are great. I drove my car from Houston in 2006 when I picked it up after my last tour in the box in Al Qayarrah. I had not seen my father for 16 months so it was a great ride back all the way back to Arizona except for the weather in Van Horn Texas (Heavy Snow). I ended up returning the ride along favor after my father bought his 96 CE from Tennesse. We had such a good time with the Z!

todesengel 12-21-2010 07:26 PM

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I apologize for my childish rants. Sometimes I just allow things to go too far rather than let them go.

If a mod wants to clean it up, that would be great.

Again, I hope anyone who spends their hard earned money on a set of these truly gets a quality product in return, I sincerely do.

Merry Christmas, and Happy new year to all of you.

Kevin 12-21-2010 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by todesengel (Post 103850)
I apologize for my childish rants. Sometimes I just allow things to go too far rather than let them go.

If a mod wants to clean it up, that would be great.

Again, I hope anyone who spends their hard earned money on a set of these truly gets a quality product in return, I sincerely do.

Merry Christmas, and Happy new year to all of you.

eh we all have our moments, glad to have ya around.

tccrab 12-22-2010 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by todesengel (Post 103850)
I apologize for my chil....
<content snipped>
Merry Christmas, and Happy new year to all of you.

Bah, don't worry about it.

Our Cyplotic Moderator pal, old "Goldie", has a titanium alloyed depleted uranium exoskeleton.
He can can bring it, and he can take it.
Ain't that right, Goldie?

You are among Brothers here, never forget that.
We can agree to disagree and still be family.

A Merry Christmas to your and yours!

TomC
'Crabs

GOLDCYLON 12-22-2010 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by tccrab (Post 103869)
Bah, don't worry about it.

Our Cyplotic Moderator pal, old "Goldie", has a titanium alloyed depleted uranium exoskeleton.
He can can bring it, and he can take it.
Ain't that right, Goldie?

You are among Brothers here, never forget that.
We can agree to disagree and still be family.

A Merry Christmas to your and yours!

TomC
'Crabs


:wave:

tomtom72 12-22-2010 08:00 AM

Re: OBX Headers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mgbrv8 (Post 103830)
As I stoop under the fire fight. I have a little off topic question, as I was removing my factory headers off the car I looked into the back side of each. I noticed that the drivers side headers catalytic converter was melted in the middle. Now would this be a sign of failing injectors, a failure of the smog system, a tune issue ( my car has a factory tune now but has had a tune on it in the past I believe), or a O2 sensor starting to degrade. It wasn't setting any codes before I tore it down and I had just finish a 10,700 mile road trip in it. Any constructive input would be greatly appriciate. Thank you gentalmen.

Dave

I'm not disputing GC's statement as he actually went thru broken cats w/ his Z. But at BG this yr a brother had an ignition coil go out and you should have seen the glow at night....due to the unburnt gas from those cylinders...man they were a light show under the car. Just saying couldn't that circumstance provide temps beyond the melting point of the bricks?:icon_scra

secondchance 12-22-2010 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tomtom72 (Post 103874)
I'm not disputing GC's statement as he actually went thru broken cats w/ his Z. But at BG this yr a brother had an ignition coil go out and you should have seen the glow at night....due to the unburnt gas from those cylinders...man they were a light show under the car. Just saying couldn't that circumstance provide temps beyond the melting point of the bricks?:icon_scra

I was watching one of those Car TV shows on the Speedvison last Sunday where the host was touring a Cat manufacturer. The rep w/ the manufacturer listed misfire dumping raw fuel, silicone contaminats and phosphate blow by (sounds familiar? All that discussion over ZDDP reduction in oil?) as being primary causes for cat failure.
Oh, yeah! It was a show called "Muscle Car".

Scrrem 12-22-2010 08:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tomtom72 (Post 103874)
I'm not disputing GC's statement as he actually went thru broken cats w/ his Z. But at BG this yr a brother had an ignition coil go out and you should have seen the glow at night....due to the unburnt gas from those cylinders...man they were a light show under the car. Just saying couldn't that circumstance provide temps beyond the melting point of the bricks?:icon_scra

Yes sir, that was me :o. Those cats were glowing red hot from only being driven a few miles with two cylinders out. I'll let you know how the top side of the cats look when I get them off next month for a header installation.
Rich

tomtom72 12-22-2010 08:56 AM

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Jingle Bells Yun!!:mrgreen::hello:

Yes, that phosphate? or Zinc or whatever it was....I remember that. Makes me think I should rethink my choices for motor oil...well that and the link Jim from FLA posted to the oil guy's site.

:cheers:
Tom

secondchance 12-22-2010 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by tomtom72 (Post 103880)
Jingle Bells Yun!!:mrgreen::hello:

Yes, that phosphate? or Zinc or whatever it was....I remember that. Makes me think I should rethink my choices for motor oil...well that and the link Jim from FLA posted to the oil guy's site.

:cheers:
Tom

Hi, Tom,

Guess what? I have been reading this thread because my plan is to lose the cat and the factory exhaust manifold and slap on a set of headers. If you remember I have Florida tag and not encumbered by annual smog inspection.
In my opinion, just because it looks like a header and sounds like a header don't mean they all perform the same.
Although my knowledge is limited a successful header design should result in exhaust pulse stacking (at least equal length for all runners from the exhaust port to the collector), runner diameter (not too restrictive and yet not so large to stagnate the flow) and tunning effect (not quite figured out).
Bottom line, whether OBX is a knock off or not how good a knock off is it? The version they copied - how well was it designed?
Well, I gave up and sent an e-mail to Marc asking based on dyno numbers what is the best rwh he has seen between Jeal, Watson and SSW. Hopefully Marc can shed some light on the subject and I can make an intelligent decision.
Either way, exhaust headers and no cats!!!

Scrrem 12-22-2010 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by secondchance (Post 103886)
Hi, Tom,
Guess what? I have been reading this thread because my plan is to lose the cat and the factory exhaust manifold and slap on a set of headers. If you remember I have Florida tag and not encumbered by annual smog inspection.

"Hello...Fairfax County.....I'd like to report a VA emissions violation" :mrgreen::mrgreen:

secondchance 12-22-2010 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrrem (Post 103887)
"Hello...Fairfax County.....I'd like to report a VA emissions violation" :mrgreen::mrgreen:

ha, ha.. My son is living in Jacksonville doing post-graduate and I am paying for his apartment. Ergo, I can claim Florida residencyadn I have been paying Fairfax County property tax because the county insited that since I am using the County road the car tax must be paid - legal!

Good try Rich!:cheers:

tomtom72 12-22-2010 11:52 AM

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I'm going to apologize to Dave for hijacking.:o

Yun, You S#$k. Jingle Bells anyway!:mrgreen: I have to "comply" with NYS smog police regulations......I'm getting a handle on this though. It ain't so bad as it seems. I just add the A.I.R. system & keep the cats.

Rich, I would be interested in what you find when you get an eyeball on the cats.:happy1:

shaynezrl 12-22-2010 02:10 PM

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I just started reading this thread...i must say WOW!! OBX is making headers for our cars. I bought a set of their headers for my acura car years ago and it fit pretty good. There was a few thing that needed to be modified. The quality was not that good. At only $150.00 dollars it worked out good. Well you do pay for what you get. I only hope that they improve on their product since then. The headers that was posted earlier looked good and i hope the installation goes good.

Shayne

rudolph schenker 12-26-2010 06:21 PM

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:happy1:

cope05 01-02-2011 06:03 PM

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mgbrv8,

Any update on the install?

mgbrv8 01-02-2011 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cope05 (Post 104473)
mgbrv8,

Any update on the install?


Ya I am sorry I have been a little busy with other projects, well and now I am trying to recover from three days of debortury. But when I do I will post it as soon as possible.

Dave

mgbrv8 01-11-2011 11:38 AM

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I am thinking about using studs on my headers. But how long of a stud would you guys run?? And would you guys use the original spacers?

Dave

Starman 06-19-2012 08:30 AM

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Thanks to all the guys at BG this year for all of the great ideas on how to spend money on my car. Headers have been on the list for a while. I like the StainlessWorks units, but was pointed at the OBX at BG.

1) How did this install of the OBX work out?
2) It looks like the OBX collectors are slip fit with clamps, I've had problems with leaks trying to clamp SS pipes in the past.
3) Are the StainlessWorks headers fully welded or some assembly required too?

Trying to work through that $700 decision.

Had a great time at BG in 2012 and want to give special thanks to the FBI, Gordon Killibrew and Mark Haibeck for the fine hospitality for my son and I Friday night.

efnfast 06-19-2012 09:19 AM

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I had a local shop do my OBX headers and exhaust. He charged me $750 for the install of headers and exhaust. I had him weld some of the non critical joints. I supplied him with Stage 8 bolts. He could not get the retaining clips on. I need to bitch at Stage 8 someday. So far I am pleased I went OBX and not S.W. Saved a ton of dough. I also had the headers ceramic coated by Swaintech. I went with their white lightning coating. It's not the prettiest, but retains a ton of heat, far more pretty coatings. It's all about performance baby. It was at BG, shame we didn't have a chance to hook up, you could have had a good look at it. -Steve

sammy 06-19-2012 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Starman (Post 143738)
Thanks to all the guys at BG this year for all of the great ideas on how to spend money on my car. Headers have been on the list for a while. I like the StainlessWorks units, but was pointed at the OBX at BG.

1) How did this install of the OBX work out?
2) It looks like the OBX collectors are slip fit with clamps, I've had problems with leaks trying to clamp SS pipes in the past.
3) Are the StainlessWorks headers fully welded or some assembly required too?

Trying to work through that $700 decision.

Had a great time at BG in 2012 and want to give special thanks to the FBI, Gordon Killibrew and Mark Haibeck for the fine hospitality for my son and I Friday night.

i would take a long look at the headers that corey henderson makes . i have a set on my 90 zr1 and a set of stainless works on my 92 the obx are exactly like them .the obx/stainless works made 17 less rwhp on my 92 . i found this out by switching the headers off my 90 to my 92 . coreys headers pipe lengths are between 22in to 24 in where the stainless works/ obx lengths are from 10 in to 22 in . i used the same dyno for both tests and allthough it was months between the 2 tests .i can feel the difference and at the drag strip gained 2.5 tenths and 1.7 mph by switching .coreys product is first cabin and isnt that much more than the obx considering that they come coated .jmho

sammy 06-19-2012 10:18 AM

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by gained i mean 2.5 tenths less . just to clear that up

Paul in VA 06-19-2012 11:00 AM

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Do you have a link to these headers?

mgbrv8 06-19-2012 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul in VA (Post 143751)
Do you have a link to these headers?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/OBX-Exhaust-...11b38b&vxp=mtr

Dave

Paul in VA 06-19-2012 12:06 PM

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Hi Dave: Was hoping for the link to the Corey headers...

CamP 06-19-2012 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul in VA (Post 143755)
Hi Dave: Was hoping for the link to the Corey headers...

From what I recall, Corey bought the original Jeal headers jigs. Here's his contact info. http://www.hendersonperformance.com/hpt_contact.html

Starman 06-19-2012 12:36 PM

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So niether the OBX or SSW are tuned (equal length tube)?

zrss 06-19-2012 12:52 PM

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I ordered a set of headers from Corey in March of 2011 and am still waiting for them. In fairness to Corey I told him when I placed the order that I didn't need the headers right away so he probably didn't place a high priority on them. Now I'm ready and waiting.

sammy 06-19-2012 06:47 PM

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just got an email from corey, and he shared he has just hired a full time fabricator and he will be working on building headers on Saturdays. if you need headers , if it were me i would wait for coreys headers . in my opinion they will be of excellent quality and are the only headers that are made for our cars that are worth the money . to me its just not worth it to buy headers that have lengths that go from 10 inches to 24 inches . i would put the obx headers into the shorty class. give him a call and decide for yourself. .

sammy 06-19-2012 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul in VA (Post 143751)
Do you have a link to these headers?

i dont know how to do the link thingy .computer dummy . here is his email . corey@hendersonperformance.com

sammy 06-21-2012 03:39 PM

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latest up date from corey, he should be turning out headers by the end of june .

Kevin 06-21-2012 04:22 PM

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any idea on price

zrss 06-21-2012 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sammy (Post 143840)
latest up date from corey, he should be turning out headers by the end of june .

Excellent. Thanks for posting the information.

sammy 06-21-2012 04:52 PM

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will try to get the low down on price whats included with the price of the headers .

FU 06-21-2012 04:54 PM

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My 2 cent's FWIW, I'd wait for Corey's header's. But that's just me.


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