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So while it works great in the day.... When the headlights are on the turn signals error. GRRRR. I consulted with -=JEFF=- and now he has the plug and play solution.


For a while the temporary solution was to pull the side marker turn signal bulbs and this mod will work. Jeff now has a plug an play solution that I have been testing on my car for over a month now that allows the amber side markers to blink as well as the front signal LED bulbs


Here is the plug and play side marker prototype that -=JEFF=- made to solve the side marker turn signal error problem. Jeff used GM connectors so there are no connection issues.


https://i.imgur.com/kJVkIda.jpg


Here is the only two connectors to have to worry about one end extends from the units and plugs in the factory harness. The other is the LED bulb end which inserts in the light housing. The black wire is simply grounded.


https://i.imgur.com/3mYsVXp.jpg


Here is the unit banjoed into place below the light housing. I used zip ties and heat shrink wrap to protect the connection end into the factory sidemarkers wiring socket.


https://i.imgur.com/JotdPEb.jpg

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I highly recommend the Amber and Red color bulbs for the side markers for the front and the rear.


Part numbers from Superbrightleds.com are


24-AHP: 24 LED Bulb- 1 SMD LED -Miniature Wedge Retrofit -Amber


24-RHP: 24 LED Bulb- 1 SMD LED - Minatare Wedge Retrofit -Red


Can you use the white LEDS? Yes but they are so bright they tend to wash out the Factory red and amber lenses. So I went to the colored LED wedge bulbs and they work great.



https://i.imgur.com/gsDcQXH.jpg



https://i.imgur.com/2F00OMX.jpg

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Once I am more mobile I will work on these sets again

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NP -=JEFF=- I will need two more :)

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Yep you are first on the list when I am back in action


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Most excellent

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"ASKING FOR"... Kinda like kidnapping and "ASKING" for RANSOM! Doan git me started!:mad::mad:

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Just FYI regarding LEDs and resistors, in case 'lectric chit' isn't your forte' and you're perhaps confused about whether or not this or that LED has or should have appropriate resistance built into the (automotive) device(s).:confused:

The (discrete) Light Emitting Diode (LED "chip") itself, except for giving off light, has the same electrical properties of any common "diode" device: They act like a "vacuum check valve"; only in an electrical circuit, allowing current to flow quite freely in one direction only; and because of this, diodes are sometimes referred to as a "switch".

But, in addition to very low (forward bias) resistance, LED chips are very limited as to the max current flow. Low resistance, but low max current capability would be a disaster for the little diode chip if not for a resistor placed in series with the diode chip, a resistance specifically chosen to limit the current flow in a particular (automotive in this case) application.

So, LED bulb replacements for dash light bulbs are typically packaged with an internal series resistor to limit the current to that which allows the LED to light up, but not so much as to destroy the diode*.

*More sophisticated LED packages include voltage regulators and even more complexity beyond a mere resistor to allow the particular LED device to be used in a wider array of applications and voltage environments.

However, some more complex automotive circuits, e.g., headlights and turn signals, etc depend on the original bulbs; in particular their current draw, or the fact the OE bulb will pass current in either direction! So, in those applications, there needs to be a "load" resistor included in the LED package, OR a relay circuit installed - depending on the application.

A "load" resistor replaces the filament resistance as result of removing the OE bulb. Such a resistor is installed across what was the 12V input terminal for the OE bulb and ground. (This load resistor is in addition to the series resistor installed to limit the current through the LED chip itself.) As far as the rest of the circuit is concerned, the load resistor looks like the original bulb is still operational. The majority of the current flows through the load resistor like normal, and only a trickle flows to the LED. As result, the turn signals or fog lamps, etc. co-exist with the LED substitute. Everybody wins!:dancing

Using a load resistor has an advantage in its simplicity; plug and play. The disadvantages include there is NO reduction in circuit current, and depending on the application, there is a lot of heat generated. Use of a load resistor requires consideration for heat: which can be significant.

Where a relay might restore functionality to other devices in the circuit very efficiently, the load resistor's heat may not be all bad. Consider one of the drawbacks of LED headlights is the lack of heat LEDs generate. OE bulbs kept the headlight free of ice in winter - especially in storms or freezing spray from other traffic.

Designing a way to take advantage of the load resistance heat - using it to keep the headlights defrosted... I'll leave it to someone to figure a way. (But! You heard it here first!!):cheers:

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Thank you!
I can now understand that!
However, I guess I will just stick to regular bulbs in this car.
But now I know why, I just can't stick in a darn bulb, ahh or switch or diode, oh LED, and be done with it
:cheers:
Marty