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mike100 03-09-2014 10:45 AM

Re: brakes & rotors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomZR1 (Post 197650)
...,Sunday drives,car shows, a little street racing:) so it must handle 0-120,120-0,every once in a while:dancing

That was my attitude going into my C5 front brake conversion- I wanted a low dust street pad you could buy at the parts store down the street.

THE COMBO NOT TO RUN:
Wagner Ceramic (Thermoquiets) with $59 Chinese rotors. You can just see one of several cracks at 9-o'clock position:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...4.jpg~original

Plenty of heat checking and hot spots:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...2.jpg~original


This pad could not pass heat thru it and I would recommend a true semi-metallic. the ceramic ran hot- and this was just from street use. I probably ran these all of about 4 months. At least C5 brake parts are 1/2 the cost.

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My current set up is Hawk HPS with EBC rotors (cast in the UK). The HPS dust, but this combo dissipates heat properly.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...m.jpg~original

TomZR1 03-09-2014 10:46 AM

Re: brakes & rotors
 
Hey exfire,
Is it to soon to see if you like em,less brake dust,good grip?you said just installed.

TomZR1 03-09-2014 10:53 AM

Re: brakes & rotors
 
Mike,
Wow that's crazy,I think I'll go with hps and look for a high quality rotors.i like your rotors,do they make em without slots?

Schrade 03-09-2014 11:19 AM

Re: brakes & rotors
 
How'd the exhaust install go there Tomz?

XfireZ51 03-09-2014 11:26 AM

Re: brakes & rotors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomZR1 (Post 197655)
Hey exfire,
Is it to soon to see if you like em,less brake dust,good grip?you said just installed.

Tom,

Yeah it is a bit too early for a number of reasons:

1. Car is up on jackstands
2. Need to bleed brakes
3. Gotta install eBrake cable setup for the Z06 calipers
4. Still snow on the ground although looks like weather may be warming up pretty soon.

I did buy them from someone who had them installed on a Z06. He had switched out the OEM pads for the same reason. Too much dust. I asked about noise and he said these pads did not squeal.

TomZR1 03-09-2014 11:34 AM

Re: brakes & rotors
 
Hey schrade,
Haven't started on exhaust yet after brake job,shock install went good,waiting on captain z for actuator,should be Wednesday,then exhaust(will post pics):cheers:

TomZR1 03-09-2014 11:43 AM

Re: brakes & rotors
 
Check out centric pads & rotors from tirerack.com under brakes.looks and sounds high quality.

mike100 03-09-2014 12:06 PM

Re: brakes & rotors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomZR1 (Post 197656)
Mike,
Wow that's crazy,I think I'll go with hps and look for a high quality rotors.i like your rotors,do they make em without slots?

Looks like they do, but without the black coating- just standard replacement types. Double check the p/n and application, but EBC-UPR7009L, EBC-UPR7009R look to be 13" J55 rotor replacements. I would also consider Raybestos discs if you could find some old stock that was made in Canada or even a good set of used ones with a cut left on them.

I think in my case the cheap metallurgy of my rotors was worse than the ceramic pads- or maybe the combination of both. I had run the same Wagner ThermoQuiets on my old 95 LT1 car without issue, but it was on the oem rotor. That car was lighter and less powerful, but also had a weak brake booster and I feel it was just plain easier on the brake temps.

The experience I had above kind of put me off on ceramic pads, but I will try again on my C6 as I was able to get all for corners with GM Delco ceramics for $100 shipped on a promotion. The Z51 came with semi-mets, but I only street drive this car...but we'll see. If they also don't work well, I will never buy another set again, but if it works out, I'm calling the issue a cheap rotor metal problem.

scottfab 03-09-2014 01:07 PM

Re: brakes & rotors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WVZR-1 (Post 197647)
I believe that there's a "LIMITED" which I'd guess is at their discretion, examples might be "reasonable" time/mileage, unusual wear with likely the first replacement not being an issue BUT subsequent replacements maybe catching the second look. If you presented the first pair and it appeared very uneven wear (implying maybe stuck caliper) you might be advised of the uneven wear and offered additional parts, you decline so "no problem" BUT repeat this in six months I'd guess the "limited" would apply.

If there's "unconditional" mentioned - different rules!

Yah, I was skeptical too. The gal I talked to seemed to think wear no mater what. We'll see :)

A26B 03-09-2014 02:25 PM

Re: brakes & rotors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mike100 (Post 197654)
My current set up is Hawk HPS with EBC rotors (cast in the UK). The HPS dust, but this combo dissipates heat properly.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...m.jpg~original

These look a lot like PowerSlot Rotors, same cadmium plating. I ran Powerslot Rotors with GrandSport Calipers and Performance Friction Z pads for a few years before I installed the 4 piston Brembos with big, hatted rotors.

It was more for the asthetics with the Fikses & LPE Aerobody than anything. The PowerSlot/GS Calipers/PerfFric-Z combination worked well for anything I ever did.


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