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Billy Mild 01-28-2016 12:02 PM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
BOX:
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...psierqyttu.jpg

Light:
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps5ge3wylb.jpg

http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...psazndxhmx.jpg

Comparison between stock and new LED light. This is in my garage

http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...psuzkn23b6.jpg

LED Fogs, One LED headlight, and One stock headlight.
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...psxhdes8ul.jpg

Now that I have both LED headlights the fogs no longer work. I am going to fix that.

Billy Mild 01-28-2016 11:51 PM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
First drive around the block was amazing. I can actually see the road. These lights are a little bluish, but mostly bright white. Now I would like to get a set of really bright Yellow foglight bulbs. Like a 3000-3500 Kelvin color.

Karl 01-29-2016 05:17 AM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
$400 for headlights seems a little steep.

Anyone use this kit?

http://www.corvettemods.com/Corvette...t-_p_7971.html

and for the fog lights http://www.corvettemods.com/Corvette...it_p_7972.html

Looks to be the best bang for the buck to me.

And this halo light but it does not appear to be plug and play

http://www.corvettemods.com/84-96-C4...ir_p_9651.html

Oracle seems to have some nice lights but none on their website for the C4 corvette.


The halo lights look nice. Maybe not for everyone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHJ87kEfRsA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJURWbO-Qyw

-=Jeff=- 01-29-2016 07:56 AM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
the white car int he corvettemods picture is NOT using the corvettemods kit.

that white car has the same CorvetteHID kit that GoldCylon has.

I agree $400 is steep for headlights..

The ones Billy mild posted are only $130 each by doing a web search..

Billy, are these what you bought?

https://www.larsenlights.com/larsen-...el-a0102-hi-lo

still at $260 for a pair

GOLDCYLON 01-29-2016 01:07 PM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by secondchance (Post 237454)
As I stated in earlier post and Paul is re-emphasizing, whiter (and bluer) lights will reflect off of wet road, reflect back in snow and fog. Paul is absolutely correct that snow will build up and freeze in front of the lens because LEDs don't produce much heat. If you drive frequently at night in the rain or snow, I would suggest a set of HIDs with color temp below 4000k.

Concur !

GOLDCYLON 01-29-2016 01:20 PM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Jeff=- (Post 237676)
the white car in the corvettemods picture is NOT using the corvettemods kit.

that white car has the same CorvetteHID kit that GoldCylon has.

Actually that is not my kit, Mine has a separate projection lens and has a high and low function with an internal blocking blade on a solenoid and is true plug and play. No Cutting, grounding or repinning issues required by lessor systems.

Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Jeff=- (Post 237676)
I agree $400 is steep for headlights..

I paid $800 for my kit so....... I did this for safety purposes only. Since I have spotted two Deer, 5 coyotes and a Mule in the road way on my way into work as I leave the house at 430 AM daily Id have to say they have paid for themselves. The Deer were on a road trip about 50 miles south of Elko Nevada and I had considerable time to stop before impact. Many years latter (today) the LEDS would have been a choice for me now since snow and ice are not much of a problem in Arizona usually. However I am 100% satisfied with my HIDs. The cheaper LEDS have a lot of appeal. As -=JEFF=- well knows I have been into LEDs for almost ten years now as they are the future. I been running them on my car daily without a single problem or to date (Failure)

The ones Billy mild posted are only $130 each by doing a web search..

Billy, are these what you bought?

https://www.larsenlights.com/larsen-...el-a0102-hi-lo

still at $260 for a pair[/QUOTE]

:cheers:

Karl 01-29-2016 03:04 PM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Jeff=- (Post 237676)
the white car int he corvettemods picture is NOT using the corvettemods kit.


Do you have a picture of the corvette hid kit?

-=Jeff=- 01-29-2016 05:04 PM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl (Post 237692)
Do you have a picture of the corvette hid kit?

no I don't

I also think corvettehid is no longer in business

GOLDCYLON 01-29-2016 06:56 PM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Jeff=- (Post 237694)
no I don't

I also think corvettehid is no longer in business

Kinda I still have a POC he still be able to help

Billy Mild 01-29-2016 07:19 PM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Jeff=- (Post 237676)
the white car int he corvettemods picture is NOT using the corvettemods kit.

that white car has the same CorvetteHID kit that GoldCylon has.

I agree $400 is steep for headlights..

The ones Billy mild posted are only $130 each by doing a web search..

Billy, are these what you bought?

https://www.larsenlights.com/larsen-...el-a0102-hi-lo

still at $260 for a pair

Those don't look like the same brand. Mine are DOT approved.

http://www.amazon.com/GENSSI-Project...+headlight+5x7

Only a few bucks more and knowing they are DOT approved is worth it.

That CorvetteMods.com HID kit is suspect. That projector is meant for a halogen bulb, not an HID bulb. You would be better off with this ebay kit.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/H6054-7x6-BL...BVxRBz&vxp=mtr

Thing is these are not ideal unless a proper projector is used. If a halogen projector is used the cutoff won't be right. Granted just about anything is going to be brighter than stock headlights. I still can't believe how bad they were. I am really happy with the LED headlights. I can actually see the road. LOL.

Karl 01-29-2016 07:39 PM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
I have driven in the cold and probably will do again. I am leaning towards the hid lights.

Corvette mods has the projector lens for an extra $99.00

Looking for something simple, reliable, and effective.

I prefer a plug and play system.

edram454 01-29-2016 10:47 PM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
just bought the genssi led lights. I have the corvettemod HID kit in a box that I will be selling. It is the diamond cut lens with little led running lights on the sides. complete kit never installed in its box. I did install the hid fog lights but the headlights were not. it has the 55 watt balast which was extra. dont know what to ask.. maybe half price. I dont believe corvettemods sells the c4 hid anymore.

I will sell for 100 buyer pays shipping. send me pm if interested.

dont mean to hijack thread just posted that I bought the genssi leds and when I get my car back from sgc they will be installed and will post my findings.

ed ramos #3028

edram454 01-29-2016 11:07 PM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Mild (Post 237202)
http://www.amazon.com/GENSSI-Project...+headlight+5x7

My wife got me these for Xmas. I have yet to install them. I am already running LED foglights and the light is almost Blue in color, but they are slightly brighter than stock. I will put these headlights in sometime over the winter. I'm sure they will be brighter than stock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu8C1CZ8W20

This video sums up the brightness. Can't wait to get them on the car.

are your lights 7x6 or 7x5? your link took me to a 7x6 headlight. i cant find 7x5 genssi hid lights. i saw your box says 5x7 lamp. where did you get yours?

ed ramos #3028

Karl 01-30-2016 12:22 AM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Mild (Post 237697)
Those don't look like the same brand. Mine are DOT approved.

http://www.amazon.com/GENSSI-Project...+headlight+5x7

Only a few bucks more and knowing they are DOT approved is worth it.

I can actually see the road. LOL.

They are the same model number A0102 yours is just in black and both are DOT approved.

I will go this route since they are DOT approved.

-=Jeff=- 01-30-2016 12:32 AM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
For now, I am sticking with my Autopal lenses and H4 bulbs..

for now anyway

Karl 01-30-2016 12:46 AM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Mild (Post 237650)
BOX:
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...psierqyttu.jpg

Light:
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps5ge3wylb.jpg

http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...psazndxhmx.jpg

Comparison between stock and new LED light. This is in my garage

http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...psuzkn23b6.jpg

LED Fogs, One LED headlight, and One stock headlight.
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...psxhdes8ul.jpg

Now that I have both LED headlights the fogs no longer work. I am going to fix that.

Do you know how much those lights weight versus the original lights? More, less, the same?

Thanks

Karl 01-30-2016 12:48 AM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Jeff=- (Post 237707)
For now, I am sticking with my Autopal lenses and H4 bulbs..

for now anyway

Did you make your own HID bulb kit?

Details please....

Billy Mild 01-30-2016 01:38 PM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edram454 (Post 237704)
are your lights 7x6 or 7x5? your link took me to a 7x6 headlight. i cant find 7x5 genssi hid lights. i saw your box says 5x7 lamp. where did you get yours?

ed ramos #3028

The amazon AD I posted is the exact same place I bought my headlights. They are 5x7 or 7x6. They are the same headlight.

Billy Mild 01-30-2016 01:40 PM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl (Post 237708)
Do you know how much those lights weight versus the original lights? More, less, the same?

Thanks

They weigh quite a bit more. The stock lights are all plastic and weigh maybe 1 pound. The new lights have a huge metal heatsink. If I had to guess I would say maybe 5 lbs.

edram454 01-30-2016 05:56 PM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Mild (Post 237712)
The amazon AD I posted is the exact same place I bought my headlights. They are 5x7 or 7x6. They are the same headlight.

thank you Mr. Mild. i cant wait to install these babies soon. it will be nice to actually not guess where things are at night. Ha!!

ed ramos #3028

Mystic ZR-1 01-30-2016 07:39 PM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Mild (Post 237713)
They weigh quite a bit more. The stock lights are all plastic and weigh maybe 1 pound. The new lights have a huge metal heatsink. If I had to guess I would say maybe 5 lbs.

Back in the day, wasn't GM going to the plastic lites due to a weight concern?
Easier on the operating mechanism.
Not an issue any more?
Agreed stock lites are terrible!
In the 3 C4s I've owned , they all ran Hella Z Beams w/H4 55/100w bulbs.
Way better than stock 55/60w halogens! 100/130w bulbs would probably work better but I'd be concerned with current draw, not to mention way too bright for low beams.
What do the LEDs look like on low beam to the oncoming traffic?
Could be an excuse to stop you if the oncoming traffic's a cop...

Andy 01-30-2016 07:43 PM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Workman (Post 237415)
I don't drive my Vettes in the snow...very often. BUT! Before jumping on (any) bandwagon, look at this video showing the GE Nighthhawk/Truck Lite LED...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P43taQiTh3g

It would appear someone driving in the snow w/ the LEDs one would be F'ked in a very short time.

Food for thought. As long as we're talking Corvettes that as a rule don't see many blizzards, it probably isn't an issue.

At the moment, I like the GENNSSI DOT approved LED headlights. (Amazon), far as the patterns it throws; Low beam "drive line" especially.

Still on the fence...ready to pull the trigger. But, at $400 ish for the pair, I wouldn't want to be sorry for not shopping some more.

Since LEDs seem to be the future of lighting, does anyone know what the auto manufacturers are doing to combat this problem of color temp and adverse reflection?

secondchance 01-31-2016 07:03 AM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy (Post 237726)
Since LEDs seem to be the future of lighting, does anyone know what the auto manufacturers are doing to combat this problem of color temp and adverse reflection?

Nothing I'm aware of. Easy solution would be lower color temp for driving/fog lights.

secondchance 02-22-2016 12:52 PM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Update - I met up with Sccrem last Saturday at the local cars & coffee. We parked side by side and turned on botha LED headlights (Sccrem inastalled a set of GE Nighthawks a few months ago). Although the daylight was breaking and not completely dark, light patterns looked pretty much identical. Further visual inspection of the lens, inside under (high beam LED) and upper (low bead LED) looked identical. Only difference was GE having a chrome bar separating the low/high beam with GE logo. Later Google search indicated GE is actually re-branded Truck Lite LEDs - if you believe what you read on the internet. Regardless, I am convinced that both originates from the same manufacturer.

Locobob 02-26-2016 03:03 PM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
After nearly plowing an errant deer last night I must say my interest in this thread has been perked....

Karl 02-26-2016 03:09 PM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
I did the auto pal and h4 upgrade off eBay.

~$70

ghlkal 02-26-2016 11:32 PM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by secondchance (Post 238637)
Later Google search indicated GE is actually re-branded Truck Lite LEDs - if you believe what you read on the internet. Regardless, I am convinced that both originates from the same manufacturer.

Thanks for posting this. My investigation indicates the same thing.

HAWAIIZR-1 12-30-2016 04:53 AM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Thanks Yun! I received my Truck-Lite LED headlights today and installed as soon as I came home. I love it. I did not drive with them yet, but impressed with everything so far.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...9f853aba5d.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...9fbcf60368.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...60b76192f0.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...49d5f06f22.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...0775febbfa.jpg





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secondchance 12-30-2016 08:16 AM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HAWAIIZR-1 (Post 254923)
Thanks Yun! I received my Truck-Lite LED headlights today and installed as soon as I came home. I love it. I did not drive with them yet, but impressed with everything so far.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...9f853aba5d.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...9fbcf60368.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...60b76192f0.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...49d5f06f22.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...0775febbfa.jpg





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I'm glad you are happy with the result! Did you modify the fog light ground? My first mod (my own) and second mod (Charlie's 92), I cut and re-grounded fog light ground wire. For the 3rd (Rich's 90) and the 4th (Phil's 94), I removed the relay, bent the leg connecting to the ground, soldered a piece of wire and grounded to the frame - much neater solution. I can't remember who suggested it but it works beautifully!

BTW, is that a custom bumper? Shinoda?

Happy New Year, Craig!

edram454 12-30-2016 08:30 AM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
My two cents, personally I like the CREE Led lights better. Thank God I sold them before the car was sold so it went to a good home but the had a much more exotic look than these. If my car was behind you with the lights on you would think it was a Pagani Zonda. Absolutely my favorite LED lights.

HAWAIIZR-1 12-30-2016 08:39 AM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by secondchance (Post 254928)
I'm glad you are happy with the result! Did you modify the fog light ground? My first mod (my own) and second mod (Charlie's 92), I cut and re-grounded fog light ground wire. For the 3rd (Rich's 90) and the 4th (Phil's 94), I removed the relay, bent the leg connecting to the ground, soldered a piece of wire and grounded to the frame - much neater solution. I can't remember who suggested it but it works beautifully!



BTW, is that a custom bumper? Shinoda?



Happy New Year, Craig!


Hey Yun,
Thanks so much for always sharing your how tos and saving so much time and energy for others that follow. No, I have to do the fog light ground and will attack it tomorrow. Coincidently I need to install ETC reader for toll booths. It is hell to get in and out of the car and dangerous; especially from the opposite side. While I'm under the dash, might as well attack it.

The bumper is a BSM Yokohama. A friend helped me find a used one and boy did it need surgery.

Happy New Year too!!!


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XfireZ51 12-30-2016 09:33 AM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edram454 (Post 254931)
My two cents, personally I like the CREE Led lights better. Thank God I sold them before the car was sold so it went to a good home but the had a much more exotic look than these. If my car was behind you with the lights on you would think it was a Pagani Zonda. Absolutely my favorite LED lights.

Ed,

U have a link for those?

secondchance 12-30-2016 09:51 AM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Ed,

CREE LED you are referring to - are these LED bulbs only or 5x7 including reflectors?

secondchance 12-30-2016 09:54 AM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Craig,

FYI - later cars have smaller relays that sit on a tray with a rectangular plastic cover. To remove the cover squeeze the narrower sides of the cover. This will cause the plastic prongs to retract and allow the cover to slide up. Took me awhile to figure this out...

HAWAIIZR-1 12-30-2016 03:40 PM

LED headlight upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by secondchance (Post 254938)
Craig,



FYI - later cars have smaller relays that sit on a tray with a rectangular plastic cover. To remove the cover squeeze the narrower sides of the cover. This will cause the plastic prongs to retract and allow the cover to slide up. Took me awhile to figure this out...


Thanks so much for another heads up tip. My first time going under dash on this 95.

Any recommendation about key on ignition source to tap into on driver's side for electronic toll booth card reader? I have to install this sucker today.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...d919968eb5.jpg

Like Hib mentioned I might want to pull the seat for more comfort under there. Might as well install the Corbeau seat while I'm at it....

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...bae14d6637.jpg

Do you see how one thing leads to another? Lol!



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HAWAIIZR-1 12-30-2016 03:45 PM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XfireZ51 (Post 254935)
Ed,



U have a link for those?


I hope it's not these CREEs?


https://www.amazon.com/New-World-Mot.../dp/B0162YBFD8





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secondchance 12-30-2016 05:01 PM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HAWAIIZR-1 (Post 254958)

Any recommendation about key on ignition source to tap into on driver's side for electronic toll booth card reader? I have to install this sucker today.


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When I decided to run a 4" screen Garmin, specifically to alert red light cameras and photo radars, I picked driver side top of the windshield powered by permanent cord. For this, I ran the power code down along the driver side A pillar, behind the dash side panel and tapped into door window power wire. I think it was yellow but suggest you verify the color.

HAWAIIZR-1 12-30-2016 05:12 PM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by secondchance (Post 254962)
When I decided to run a 4" screen Garmin, specifically to alert red light cameras and photo radars, I picked driver side top of the windshield powered by permanent cord. For this, I ran the power code down along the driver side A pillar, behind the dash side panel and tapped into door window power wire. I think it was yellow but suggest you verify the color.

Thanks so much Yun! I'll check the FSM and that location. I always appreciate your advice and details (engineer background guys). I'll dust off my Gordon Killebrew circuit tester as it will come in handy. I was just telling my Japan friends I need to get a good radar/laser/stop light/photo device. I'll also put the antenna of the ETC reader in the radar detector window of windshield. :cheers:

dredgeguy 12-31-2016 09:45 AM

Re: LED headlight upgrade
 
It is so nice to be able to see at night, we have lots of deer out this time of year and things that go bump in the night scare me! After Yun did the install, I went to a MD inspection station and paid $28 for them to do the alignment. Both lights were low and to the left. With bright LED's you want to be sure they are in the right position.

Happy New Year to all my ZR-1 brothers....hope for a safe, healthy and successful 2017.

HAWAIIZR-1 12-31-2016 03:21 PM

LED headlight upgrade
 
Thanks again Yun. The tip for the yellow power window wire was spot on and it took no time at all to tap. Elephant memory my friend. Thanks Charlie, it better make sure my aim is good to go. Supposedly some to do with driving on the opposite side of the road here and same European standard lights instead of DOT.so I'm illegal here. JW Speaker sell LED ECE versions, but too expensive. Happy New Year!


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