Re: Jumper to avoid being stranded with a failed Primary Fuel Pump
 

Outstanding Mod. Im an electrical noob. Who wants to make a run of these? Jim? tell me where to send the money.. Outstanding :handshak:

Re: Jumper to avoid being stranded with a failed Primary Fuel Pump
 

Thanks Jim :thumbsup:
I am not so sure about that GM88861069 for female connector. I cannot find that on Amazon. If someone finds a source of that female connector that would be great......

Re: Jumper to avoid being stranded with a failed Primary Fuel Pump
 

Hmm i'm piecing some parts together. If it works out I could make a small run of these to those who are interested if Jim is not adverse to it. Jim any issues since its your idea ?

Re: Jumper to avoid being stranded with a failed Primary Fuel Pump
 

I like the idea of having one to throw in the storage bin. If somebody orders a bag of the connectors, I'll chip in. I think this same plug is used in a couple of different spots so it may also be possible to find another GM car that has this and clip a few next trip to the wrecking yard. Sometimes just buying new parts is less work though.

Re: Jumper to avoid being stranded with a failed Primary Fuel Pump
 

I also had trouble finding the female connector, which is why I cannibalized an old unit to get the connector.

There are many uses of the four-tower weather pack connector, but you have to get the one that is "keyed" for this application. There are slots and ridges that have to be in the right places. I will try again to ID the correct connector.

If some one wants to make these it is fine with me.

Jim

Re: Jumper to avoid being stranded with a failed Primary Fuel Pump
 

The connector shell on the "TANK UNIT" is actually MALE but is a female gendered connector because of the terminals inserted.


These are very basic Weather-Pack and the most economical approach is just by the appropriate male, female connector "shell" and create your own indexing. You need to remember when discussing GM/Packard/Delphi connectors that it's the terminal that dictates the "gender" and NOT the shell. Weather-Pack is unique because either a female or male terminal can be inserted into the shell. It depends on the component just how it's configured. A VSS uses a backward assembly procedure.

Any NAPA, or truck parts supplier can supply you with the shells, the terminals, the seals used in the assembly.

These people catalog Weather-Pack pretty well and have all of the correct seals, terminals and cavity plugs needed. They actually have pig-tails also and theirs would be actual Weather-Pack and not a similar assembly done by PICO or some other "off-shore" supplier. You could pin and unpin theirs at will.

http://www.whiteproducts.com/weather_pack.shtml

I buy from another vendor but these guys image things pretty well.

I have an application reference for "indexed" shells but most are discontinued so it's somewhat irrelevant.

If you wanted you could "tidy up" yours just by using two way Weather-Packs, one pair to correct where the "bullets" are now and a second pair done to accomplish the "cross-over".

Re: Jumper to avoid being stranded with a failed Primary Fuel Pump
 

In my stash of connectors, I found the second connector that I ordered

The connector that is on the Fuel Pump Assembly (Tank Unit) is in fact the male (my info above was in error, thanks WVZR-1). It is GM 88861069, AC Delco PT2141.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00.../ref=as_int_dp

If you want to assemble a jumper from two replacement (new) connectors, take care to keep the wire sequences correct. The new connectors are pigtail sets that are not color coded.

The terminals are marked A - B - C - D The normal wiring ID is:

A - Black - DC Ground
B - Purple - Fuel gauge signal
C - Gray - Fuel Pump
D - Green/white - Fuel Pump

To make the crossover, switch the C and D terminals on one end of the jumper.

A-------------------------A

B-------------------------B

C---------\ /-------------C
D---------/ \-------------D

Jim

Re: Jumper to avoid being stranded with a failed Primary Fuel Pump
 

These I believe would be the correctly "indexed" shells for the harness:

12020832 looks to be indexed A @ 12:00 (black) and D @ 3:00 (green/white) with the latch on top, this is what is currently on the sender with female terminals in it. Several vendors have that shell. 12020830 should be an appropriate shell for mating and would require just the appropriate male terminals. I don't know why you would need the CPA but 12020833 would get you that if you wanted a couple.

15324982 should be the correct green seals for the individual wires in the connectors.

I'll post back with what I believe should be the appropriate terminals. I don't recall the wire sizes and I'll need Jim to verify the indexing of the shell on the tank unit. I'm doing that mostly from memory but I believe it's appropriate.

Mouser it appears seems to have the correct shells and the CPA. Just use the part numbers I mentioned above to search. They could be available from many others and I don't buy often from Mouser but I've had good service in the past. Their "minimum" best I recall was very realistic and if someone was doing a few of these it would likely be appropriate to just let that person do the procuring from whomever. I didn't check the vendor I use for these part numbers.

http://www.mouser.com/

12089040 for male terminals I believe (I assumed .5 - .8 wire) and 12089188 for the female terminal.

Part #'s required per car:

12020832 X 1, 12020830 X 1, 15324982 X 8, 12089040 X 4, 12089188 X 4 and 12020833 X 1 if you wanted the CPA.

Re: Jumper to avoid being stranded with a failed Primary Fuel Pump
 

Dumbassed question. I should know that.
Sorry.:(

Re: Jumper to avoid being stranded with a failed Primary Fuel Pump
 

Ive talked to my local electrical guy about making these. We figure $30 shipped Lower 48. I have asked him about making a run of 20 if we have enough interest. Once we have ten signed up I will tell him to start making them and start ordering the connectors and wire and post up the prototype

1. GOLDCYLON
2. PHILLIPSLT5
3. GEEZER (Canada)
4. ZR1North
5. GSJOE X 2
6. CHRISKINZEL
7. CVETTE98PACECAR X2
8. DYNOMITE X4
9. NELSON007 X2
10. WEGONE
11. SCOTTZ95ZR-1 x2
12. MYSTICZR-1
13. DEMPS
14. ROADSTER
15. HAWAIIZR-1
16. ANDY
17. HIZNHRZ
18. 90206