Dave McLellan Hot Rod Network Article - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

Jagdpanzer · 03-01-2019

Dave getting some well deserved recognition
https://www.hotrod.com/articles/dave...hief-engineer/

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32valvZ · 03-01-2019

Very nice, thanks for posting.

Meanmyz · 03-02-2019

The least Teeters could do is get his name right in half the paragraphs. His last name is McLellan, not Hill. When I see mistakes like this, I question the accuracy of other statements.

Also, when I see Teeters drawings, alot of the time he has cars with mixed and matched parts from other model years. Like the '84 in the article picture that has '86 model year wheels. Recently I saw a picture he had done of a '88 Corvette with the GTO body kit offered at the time by Chevrolet. His illustration had later c4 (91 - 96) base wheels. Maybe it is just me, but professional caliber equals accuracy, and that is why I usually equate Teeters work as second class.

It's like all these coffee table Corvette history books out there. When I see representative model years with aftermarket wheels, aftermarket exhausts, late 80's wings, or filthy engine compartments,it is kind of like "why did they bother?"...they certainly didn't do the representative model year or generation justice in the eyes of the novice who is learning and doesn't know any better. No problem with an owner doing that, it just, in my mind, doesn't belong in that book.

Yes, nice to see McLellan get some copy, but get it right!

Meanmyz · 03-02-2019

Ok, after reading the full article, I am going to soften my criticism a little. But still.. get it right!

dredgeguy · 03-02-2019

Nice find Phil and thanks

ABBEZR1 · 03-02-2019

Thanks for posting!!

My wife and I had a chance to meet Dave with a group of Zoom guys here in Michigan along with Marc Haibeck at a Lingenfelter Cars and Coffee...We all went to lunch then he invited us to his beautiful home. Like the article says he is very approachable and we all enjoyed listening to him talk about the inception of the Zr1 and getting to see some of his corvette memorabilia..

Truly a highlight of our summer!!

Steve

ghlkal · 03-02-2019

OP, thanks for posting. Nice article, except ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meanmyz

The least Teeters could do is get his name right in half the paragraphs. His last name is McLellan, not Hill.

Yup, I agree with this.

Hib Halverson · 03-03-2019

I agree with "Meanmyz". That article is pretty marginal in some areas as far as accuracy.

For example, it's discussion of B2K. Other than giving the technology developed during the in-house twin-turbo project to Callaway, GM engineers had what I thought was a modest role the Callaway twin-turbo development. No doubt Dave played a key part in the decision to give that technology to Reeves, but I doubt that McLellan had a lot of direct control over Callaway. Heck, he was to busy bringing the ZR-1 to market.

Also, the article only discusses the LT5 and the wide body as differences between regular C4s and ZR1s. He forgets a bunch of other stuff was developed specifically for the ZR1: the 315s on the back, the big brakes introduced for MY88, the six-speed and SRC in MY89.

I think calling the LT5 jewel-like is a dumb-*** statement. If the freakin' LT5 was "jewel-like" they'd have never exhibited the power potential and durability that the engine has shown.

I love Scott Teter's graphic skills but I've read his stuff before and IMO, he thinks he knows a lot of s**t but, sometime, he doesn't always properly research the stuff he may not know.

Meanmyz · 03-06-2019

Thanks Hib. At the other end of the spectrum, Ive always enjoyed your articles as a place to "get the goods" on one of my favorite subjects! Glad to see that you still hang around here with us, post Barney!

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Jagdpanzer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 2,661	Dave McLellan Hot Rod Network Article Dave getting some well deserved recognition https://www.hotrod.com/articles/dave...hief-engineer/ Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry __________________ Phil Wasinger 1994 Torch Red ZR-1 WAZOO Member George Braml Intake

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32valvZ Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 1,071	Re: Dave McLellan Hot Rod Network Article Very nice, thanks for posting. __________________ [B]1990 #2815[/B] [COLOR="Red"][B]Red/Red[/B][/COLOR] Ported Plenum & IH (by Pete) Haibeck Chip Rebuilt FPR (by Phil) FIC Injectors Watson LT Headers 3" Stainless Works exhaust Lingenfelter Open Air Lid Bill B Built Transmission Shifter & C Beam Plates [FONT=Impact][COLOR=red]1992 [COLOR=black]#[/COLOR] 091[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Impact][COLOR=#ff0000]Red/[COLOR=silver]Gray[/COLOR][/COLOR][/FONT] [B]SOLD[/B]

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Meanmyz Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Springfield, Minnesota Posts: 446	Re: Dave McLellan Hot Rod Network Article The least Teeters could do is get his name right in half the paragraphs. His last name is McLellan, not Hill. When I see mistakes like this, I question the accuracy of other statements. Also, when I see Teeters drawings, alot of the time he has cars with mixed and matched parts from other model years. Like the '84 in the article picture that has '86 model year wheels. Recently I saw a picture he had done of a '88 Corvette with the GTO body kit offered at the time by Chevrolet. His illustration had later c4 (91 - 96) base wheels. Maybe it is just me, but professional caliber equals accuracy, and that is why I usually equate Teeters work as second class. It's like all these coffee table Corvette history books out there. When I see representative model years with aftermarket wheels, aftermarket exhausts, late 80's wings, or filthy engine compartments,it is kind of like "why did they bother?"...they certainly didn't do the representative model year or generation justice in the eyes of the novice who is learning and doesn't know any better. No problem with an owner doing that, it just, in my mind, doesn't belong in that book. Yes, nice to see McLellan get some copy, but get it right! Last edited by Meanmyz; 03-02-2019 at 01:13 AM.

03-02-2019	#4
Meanmyz Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Springfield, Minnesota Posts: 446	Re: Dave McLellan Hot Rod Network Article Ok, after reading the full article, I am going to soften my criticism a little. But still.. get it right!

03-02-2019	#5
dredgeguy Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 1,714	Re: Dave McLellan Hot Rod Network Article Nice find Phil and thanks __________________ Charlie __________ Dredgeguy WAZOO Member 1992 Bright Red/Black ZR1 #246 Dana 4:10 gears Polished LT5 by Haibeck Polished Fikse FM5's with Michelin Pilot Sport 2 Stainless Works headers and cats with Corsa

03-02-2019	#6
ABBEZR1 Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Jackson,Mi, Area Posts: 52	Re: Dave McLellan Hot Rod Network Article Thanks for posting!! My wife and I had a chance to meet Dave with a group of Zoom guys here in Michigan along with Marc Haibeck at a Lingenfelter Cars and Coffee...We all went to lunch then he invited us to his beautiful home. Like the article says he is very approachable and we all enjoyed listening to him talk about the inception of the Zr1 and getting to see some of his corvette memorabilia.. Truly a highlight of our summer!! Steve __________________ _______________________ 1990 Bright Red/Black #946 B and B X-Pipe Stainless Works Long Tube Headers Cat delete 49th Street Rockers Haibeck Chip and Tune

03-03-2019	#8
Hib Halverson Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CenCoast California Posts: 899	Re: Dave McLellan Hot Rod Network Article I agree with "Meanmyz". That article is pretty marginal in some areas as far as accuracy. For example, it's discussion of B2K. Other than giving the technology developed during the in-house twin-turbo project to Callaway, GM engineers had what I thought was a modest role the Callaway twin-turbo development. No doubt Dave played a key part in the decision to give that technology to Reeves, but I doubt that McLellan had a lot of direct control over Callaway. Heck, he was to busy bringing the ZR-1 to market. Also, the article only discusses the LT5 and the wide body as differences between regular C4s and ZR1s. He forgets a bunch of other stuff was developed specifically for the ZR1: the 315s on the back, the big brakes introduced for MY88, the six-speed and SRC in MY89. I think calling the LT5 jewel-like is a dumb-* statement. If the freakin' LT5 was "jewel-like" they'd have never exhibited the power potential and durability that the engine has shown. I love Scott Teter's graphic skills but I've read his stuff before and IMO, he thinks he knows a lot of st but, sometime, he doesn't always properly research the stuff he may not know. __________________ Hib Halverson Technical Writer former owner 95 VIN 0140 current owner 19 VIN 1878 Last edited by Hib Halverson; 03-03-2019 at 11:56 AM.

03-06-2019	#9
Meanmyz Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Springfield, Minnesota Posts: 446	Re: Dave McLellan Hot Rod Network Article Thanks Hib. At the other end of the spectrum, Ive always enjoyed your articles as a place to "get the goods" on one of my favorite subjects! Glad to see that you still hang around here with us, post Barney!