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ZR1Vette · 02-17-2010

Sorry about this being a long read, but need to know what you guys think... I have deleted last names and complete email & location addresses just in case this proves legitimate and not a scam. Trying not to insult but being cautious ....

I placed the following in the Parts Wanted section of the Registry:

DESCRIPTION: For a 1990 ZR... left side halo interior trim piece in red (color #733). Must be in mint condition.

About a week passed and I received an email from a fellow in England>>>

----- Original Message -----
From: Brian
To: mrierson
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2010 5:20:19 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: DESCRIPTION: For a 1990 ZR... left side halo interior trim piece in red (color #733). Must be in mint condition.
Hi Mate,

Am Brian from the England.You placed a wanted ads and i still have for sale in a good shape and condition.Please get back to me on brian.morgan96@ or call me on +447024077954.

Cheers!!!!

Brian
XX Leicester Street London UK.

I responded>>>

From: mrierson@
Subject: Re: DESCRIPTION: For a 1990 ZR... left side halo interior trim piece in red (color #733). Must be in mint condition.
To: Brian
Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 2:34 PM
Hello Brian,
Good afternoon to you...and thanks for emailing me.

Yes, I would be interested...just want to make sure this is a OEM 1990 red interior halo trim piece. If yes, what is your price and what do you think shipping would cost to Reston, Virginia20194?

About 2 years ago I was over in London and then to Hethel where a group of us Lotus track drivers met up with Lotus Team...had a absolute blast on the track...only initial problem was learning to race a right hand drive car...having the shifter in my left hand took a bit getting used to.

Look forward to hearing from you,

Regards
Michael

He responded:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian
To: mrierson
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 20109:44:14 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: DESCRIPTION: For a 1990 ZR... left side halo interior trim piece in red (color #733). Must be in mint condition.
Hi Micheal,

I still have left side halo interior trim piece in red for sale.Am currently having technical difficulties in uploading images but its in good and perfect condition.I would be asking a 140USD for it including shipping as i would be shipping via Ups or FedEx which ever you prefer and would accept payment via Western union or Moneygram.Whats your shipping address?

Thanks

Brian

I then responded:

From: mrierson
Subject: Re: DESCRIPTION: For a 1990 ZR... left side halo interior trim piece in red (color #733). Must be in mint condition.
To: "Brian
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 12:13 AM
I hope you understand about international shipments and payments..will consider purchasing but your requirement of Western Union or Moneygram will not work. I will be glad to use PayPal and please confirm that the price of $140 USD includes shipping
Michael

He then responded:

Hello,

I do not have a PayPal account.Yes the price includes shipping via Ups or FedEx.Whats your shipping address?I only use western union.

Brian

Then a couple days ago I received this email>>

From: "Roy W
To: mrierson
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 4:23:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: DESCRIPTION: For a 1990 ZR... left side halo interior trim piece in red (color #733). Must be in mint condition.
Hello,

Please let me know if you still need item as I have to offer. Let me know what you need. What's your cell?

Thanks,

+447024024594
Roy W
United Kingdom

tccrab · 02-17-2010

If it's a scam, he's certainly polite and writes well.
Not like the Nigerian scams at all.
Suggest using a bank wire transfer of funds directly from your account to his.
Much more secure way to pay the guy.

Another way to ferret out a scammer is to offer to have a friend over there in the UK to pick up and pay for the item.
I'm sure there are members here from the UK (Cliff comes to mind) who would be gracious enough to offer to help out.

Google his address. Leicester Street is between Trafalger Square and Picadilly Circus.
Prime real estate in London. Seems a little suspicious.

Good luck.

TomC
'Crabs

02-17-2010

Scam, he makes no acknowledgment on the Lotus event or learning to drive a RHD vehicle.

TAMMRICH · 02-17-2010

Agreed, a scam. I'm from London and people don't punctuate like that and I've never seen a London address written like that, generally you would write London WC2 which gives you an idea of the location. Plus Leicester St or Leicester Sq is like saying you live on Park Lane in NYC.

Richard

A26B · 02-17-2010

Not to mention he becomes "Roy W" with his last msg.

DaveK · 02-17-2010

Agree with all the above. I also googled his phone number...

http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/g...gan-mails.html

Hope you find your part soon!

Dave

QB93Z · 02-17-2010

Awesome job guys!! There are some great people helping each other out on this Forum.

Jim

secondchance · 02-17-2010

Unreal!
I had a similar experience when looking for a puppy. Found an ad in puppyfind.com and at the end she thought we would provide such a nice home she would give us the dog but wanted me to pay for her flight from Rhode Island to DC. When I asked for a phone number she wrote back saying that she is deaf!

ZR1Vette · 02-17-2010

GREATLY appreciate the work you guys did... as much as I want the part I was a bit suspicious...but you all iced the cake to change from 'suspicious' to 'run away'...

Sent this Brian a little love note..
Michael

Z51JEFF · 02-17-2010

When I was looking for a wheel this guy responded.When I asked for a picture he sent a generic picture of the wheel he got off Fleabay.Most of the scams for parts came from the parts wanted ad on the site.I never once considered these guys as on the level so I strung them alone for awhile until they got tired of it and just left me alone.

02-17-2010	#1
ZR1Vette Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Reston, Virginia Posts: 930	Need Opinions and Guidance>> Sorry about this being a long read, but need to know what you guys think... I have deleted last names and complete email & location addresses just in case this proves legitimate and not a scam. Trying not to insult but being cautious .... I placed the following in the Parts Wanted section of the Registry: DESCRIPTION: For a 1990 ZR... left side halo interior trim piece in red (color #733). Must be in mint condition. About a week passed and I received an email from a fellow in England>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian To: mrierson Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2010 5:20:19 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: DESCRIPTION: For a 1990 ZR... left side halo interior trim piece in red (color #733). Must be in mint condition. Hi Mate, Am Brian from the England.You placed a wanted ads and i still have for sale in a good shape and condition.Please get back to me on brian.morgan96@ or call me on +447024077954. Cheers!!!! Brian XX Leicester Street London UK. I responded>>> From: mrierson@ Subject: Re: DESCRIPTION: For a 1990 ZR... left side halo interior trim piece in red (color #733). Must be in mint condition. To: Brian Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 2:34 PM Hello Brian, Good afternoon to you...and thanks for emailing me. Yes, I would be interested...just want to make sure this is a OEM 1990 red interior halo trim piece. If yes, what is your price and what do you think shipping would cost to Reston, Virginia20194? About 2 years ago I was over in London and then to Hethel where a group of us Lotus track drivers met up with Lotus Team...had a absolute blast on the track...only initial problem was learning to race a right hand drive car...having the shifter in my left hand took a bit getting used to. Look forward to hearing from you, Regards Michael He responded: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian To: mrierson Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 20109:44:14 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: DESCRIPTION: For a 1990 ZR... left side halo interior trim piece in red (color #733). Must be in mint condition. Hi Micheal, I still have left side halo interior trim piece in red for sale.Am currently having technical difficulties in uploading images but its in good and perfect condition.I would be asking a 140USD for it including shipping as i would be shipping via Ups or FedEx which ever you prefer and would accept payment via Western union or Moneygram.Whats your shipping address? Thanks Brian I then responded: From: mrierson Subject: Re: DESCRIPTION: For a 1990 ZR... left side halo interior trim piece in red (color #733). Must be in mint condition. To: "Brian Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 12:13 AM I hope you understand about international shipments and payments..will consider purchasing but your requirement of Western Union or Moneygram will not work. I will be glad to use PayPal and please confirm that the price of $140 USD includes shipping Michael He then responded: Hello, I do not have a PayPal account.Yes the price includes shipping via Ups or FedEx.Whats your shipping address?I only use western union. Brian Then a couple days ago I received this email>> From: "Roy W To: mrierson Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 4:23:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: DESCRIPTION: For a 1990 ZR... left side halo interior trim piece in red (color #733). Must be in mint condition. Hello, Please let me know if you still need item as I have to offer. Let me know what you need. What's your cell? Thanks, +447024024594 Roy W United Kingdom

02-17-2010	#2
tccrab Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Folsom CA Posts: 1,657	Re: Need Opinions and Guidance>> If it's a scam, he's certainly polite and writes well. Not like the Nigerian scams at all. Suggest using a bank wire transfer of funds directly from your account to his. Much more secure way to pay the guy. Another way to ferret out a scammer is to offer to have a friend over there in the UK to pick up and pay for the item. I'm sure there are members here from the UK (Cliff comes to mind) who would be gracious enough to offer to help out. Google his address. Leicester Street is between Trafalger Square and Picadilly Circus. Prime real estate in London. Seems a little suspicious. Good luck. TomC 'Crabs Last edited by tccrab; 02-17-2010 at 01:15 PM.

02-17-2010	#3
Jeffvette Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Need Opinions and Guidance>> Scam, he makes no acknowledgment on the Lotus event or learning to drive a RHD vehicle.

02-17-2010	#4
TAMMRICH Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Sonoma CA Posts: 25	Re: Need Opinions and Guidance>> Agreed, a scam. I'm from London and people don't punctuate like that and I've never seen a London address written like that, generally you would write London WC2 which gives you an idea of the location. Plus Leicester St or Leicester Sq is like saying you live on Park Lane in NYC. Richard

02-17-2010	#5
A26B Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Arcadia, OK Posts: 3,394	Re: Need Opinions and Guidance>> Not to mention he becomes "Roy W" with his last msg. __________________ Jerry Downey JERRYS LT5 GASKETS & PARTS http://www.jerrysgaskets.com 1994 *ZR-1*, Black/Black, Lingenfelter Aerobody, 416cu in, 3.91 gears, coil-over susp, Brembo brakes, etc. 2016 Black-Red, 3LT-Z51 Auto 8-speed.

02-17-2010	#6
DaveK Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sudbury, Ontario. Canada Posts: 1,534	Re: Need Opinions and Guidance>> Agree with all the above. I also googled his phone number... http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/g...gan-mails.html Hope you find your part soon! Dave __________________ 1991 #1516 Black/Black davidmkelly.com Author of fast-paced, sci-fi thrillers.

02-17-2010	#7
QB93Z Join Date: May 2007 Location: Westminster, Maryland Posts: 3,684	Re: Need Opinions and Guidance>> Awesome job guys!! There are some great people helping each other out on this Forum. Jim

02-17-2010	#8
secondchance Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: McLean, VA Posts: 3,718	Re: Need Opinions and Guidance>> Unreal! I had a similar experience when looking for a puppy. Found an ad in puppyfind.com and at the end she thought we would provide such a nice home she would give us the dog but wanted me to pay for her flight from Rhode Island to DC. When I asked for a phone number she wrote back saying that she is deaf!

02-17-2010	#9
ZR1Vette Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Reston, Virginia Posts: 930	Re: Need Opinions and Guidance>> GREATLY appreciate the work you guys did... as much as I want the part I was a bit suspicious...but you all iced the cake to change from 'suspicious' to 'run away'... Sent this Brian a little love note.. Michael Last edited by ZR1Vette; 02-17-2010 at 03:51 PM.

02-17-2010	#10
Z51JEFF Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 3,087	Re: Need Opinions and Guidance>> When I was looking for a wheel this guy responded.When I asked for a picture he sent a generic picture of the wheel he got off Fleabay.Most of the scams for parts came from the parts wanted ad on the site.I never once considered these guys as on the level so I strung them alone for awhile until they got tired of it and just left me alone.