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Chedberg · 09-02-2005

First of all, Congrats!

It is doubtful that a stock 90-92 ZR-1 would beat a 02-04 Z06 in the 1/4, and touch and go for a 93-95. I remember an old Corvette Fever article from 2001 where a new Z06 (new in 2001, 385hp) was raced against a ZR-1 (93-95, 405hp) and it was a very close call. On the flipside, the ZR-1 has a higher top speed.

As for the the LS7, check out Mark Haibeck's presentation from the '05 Gathering:
http://www.zr1specialist.com/HAT%20W...fect%20LT5.pdf

Based on the new SAE rating of the LS7, the power to weight calculation should be:
'06 Z06 - 3130/505=6.198
'93 ZR1 385ci - 3483/565=6.164 <--- '06 Z06 Killer

All of his past presentations are here:

http://www.zr1specialist.com/HAT%20W...ons%20Page.htm

Once people start modding the crapola out of the LS7, it is over

.

Patton · 09-02-2005

Got any extra bucks laying around? Learn what parts break often and buy some extras before they are unavialable or just too costly, from secondary vacuum parts

to windhields and a couple plenum gaskets wouldnt hurt!
Oh and,... Drive it!

New ZR-1 Owner · 09-07-2005

First of all, let me comment on this website in general. The guy I bought my Z from said this site was awesome and that there were very knowledgeable people on here that would help me out with anything I needed or wanted to know. He was more than right!!
I feel honored to be a new member of this brethren, even though I am very "green" with regards to my knowledge. I'm learning fast though.
The previous owner had told me that Haibeck had told him that with all the mods on mine ('94 #294) that in a straight away run it just might be able to outrun a new Z06. It dynos out at 480 rwhp and approx 580 otherwise.
I'm quite aware (and a bit sad) that the modified Z06's will make it "game over", but I'll still be proud of this car. It had blown my friggin' mind in the first two days I've owned it. God-like comes to mind.
Anyway, I can't wait to learn more and maybe come to one of this rallys or whatever sometime in the next year. Any suggestions on the best one to try and get to. I'm in Kansas now and will be in Arkansas next year so the closest best event would be best for me.
Thanks again to all of you who replied to my initial post.

WB9MCW · 09-07-2005

rock chock jayhawk go ku!!!! c u are from ku country!!!!

New ZR-1 Owner · 09-08-2005

KU born and bred my ZR-1 Friend. I hope to waive some wheat with the car as I go flying by!! When did you graduate? What did you study. Any good Vette get-togethers around here?

Tyghe Nielsen

WB9MCW · 09-08-2005

class of 82 general studies/engineering..drove a 68 bronco back then!!! lol last visit to the hill was 87(bball champ. year).. been a long time bet it looks different now..stay current sort of by reading the ku endowment newsletter/mag..believe it or not in downtown chicago there is a ku club but i never get there since im 50 mi out of the city up by the wisco border in mchenry il.. check out my website for a view...enjoy bryan w

mchenry website

WyattEurp · 12-01-2005

All maybe true about the new z06's but, I am wondering how well these ls7's will hold up in the long run. I have seen countless LS1's that will never see 100,000 miles due to excessive speed, and personaly have 2 zr-1's with over 100 on them, and they have not had an easy life, so i am very curiouse to see how a pushrod engine will hold up at 7,000 rpms

tomtom72 · 12-02-2005

Welcome to KOTH, Tyghe!!

Nice choice in vintage machinery! Just park next to a 06/Z06 & open both hoods and wait for the crowd to gather & then tell me about it.

JMHO but it's apples & oranges. One is a NASCAR motor and one harkens back to the F1 motors of the late 60's early 70's.

Good luck & enjoy her!

Tom

rbidwell · 12-02-2005

Have fun with the Z. If you do not have a service manual, I would suggest that be one of your first investments. Another place for good information is the following site: http://listserv.corvettemuseum.com/archives/zr1net.html. It is easy to do searchs for specific questions. If you have a problem you can post there and will get very good advice. Ron Bidwell

ZR-1 Mack · 12-10-2005

Here's the link to Helms for the service manuals. Looks like they are out of stock . Probably a phone call to them wouldn't hurt if you want one right away . Used manuals are also on Ebay from time to time.

http://www.helminc.com/helm/Result.a...FX4S544RFW5BL1

09-02-2005	#12
Patton Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 224	Stock up! Got any extra bucks laying around? Learn what parts break often and buy some extras before they are unavialable or just too costly, from secondary vacuum parts to windhields and a couple plenum gaskets wouldnt hurt! Oh and,... Drive it! __________________ "Mr. President, we must not allowwww... a mine shaft gap!!" -General Buck Turgidson 1994 ZR1 - White on Black

09-07-2005	#13
New ZR-1 Owner Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Olathe, KS Posts: 6	Mine has the Haibeck 385 package plus others First of all, let me comment on this website in general. The guy I bought my Z from said this site was awesome and that there were very knowledgeable people on here that would help me out with anything I needed or wanted to know. He was more than right!! I feel honored to be a new member of this brethren, even though I am very "green" with regards to my knowledge. I'm learning fast though. The previous owner had told me that Haibeck had told him that with all the mods on mine ('94 #294) that in a straight away run it just might be able to outrun a new Z06. It dynos out at 480 rwhp and approx 580 otherwise. I'm quite aware (and a bit sad) that the modified Z06's will make it "game over", but I'll still be proud of this car. It had blown my friggin' mind in the first two days I've owned it. God-like comes to mind. Anyway, I can't wait to learn more and maybe come to one of this rallys or whatever sometime in the next year. Any suggestions on the best one to try and get to. I'm in Kansas now and will be in Arkansas next year so the closest best event would be best for me. Thanks again to all of you who replied to my initial post.

09-07-2005	#14
WB9MCW Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: McHenry, Il. Posts: 6,607	go ku my alumni rock chock jayhawk go ku!!!! c u are from ku country!!!! __________________ http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...9mcw/SIG-2.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o128/wb9mcw/vcm.gif "The Budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed, lest Rome will become bankrupt. People must again learn to work instead of living on public assistance." - Cicero, 55 BC " We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution." - Abraham Lincoln

09-08-2005	#15
New ZR-1 Owner Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Olathe, KS Posts: 6	Rock Chalk KU born and bred my ZR-1 Friend. I hope to waive some wheat with the car as I go flying by!! When did you graduate? What did you study. Any good Vette get-togethers around here? Tyghe Nielsen __________________ Tyghe '94, #294

09-08-2005	#16
WB9MCW Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: McHenry, Il. Posts: 6,607	been a long since i had a beer at the hawk's nest!!! class of 82 general studies/engineering..drove a 68 bronco back then!!! lol last visit to the hill was 87(bball champ. year).. been a long time bet it looks different now..stay current sort of by reading the ku endowment newsletter/mag..believe it or not in downtown chicago there is a ku club but i never get there since im 50 mi out of the city up by the wisco border in mchenry il.. check out my website for a view...enjoy bryan w mchenry website __________________ http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...9mcw/SIG-2.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o128/wb9mcw/vcm.gif "The Budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed, lest Rome will become bankrupt. People must again learn to work instead of living on public assistance." - Cicero, 55 BC " We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution." - Abraham Lincoln Last edited by WB9MCW; 12-22-2005 at 05:43 PM.

09-02-2005	#11
Chedberg Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 18	First of all, Congrats! It is doubtful that a stock 90-92 ZR-1 would beat a 02-04 Z06 in the 1/4, and touch and go for a 93-95. I remember an old Corvette Fever article from 2001 where a new Z06 (new in 2001, 385hp) was raced against a ZR-1 (93-95, 405hp) and it was a very close call. On the flipside, the ZR-1 has a higher top speed. As for the the LS7, check out Mark Haibeck's presentation from the '05 Gathering: http://www.zr1specialist.com/HAT%20W...fect%20LT5.pdf Based on the new SAE rating of the LS7, the power to weight calculation should be: '06 Z06 - 3130/505=6.198 '93 ZR1 385ci - 3483/565=6.164 <--- '06 Z06 Killer All of his past presentations are here: http://www.zr1specialist.com/HAT%20W...ons%20Page.htm Once people start modding the crapola out of the LS7, it is over .

12-01-2005	#17
WyattEurp Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hastings, MN Posts: 6	Re: NEW to the ZR-1. Any words to the wise? All maybe true about the new z06's but, I am wondering how well these ls7's will hold up in the long run. I have seen countless LS1's that will never see 100,000 miles due to excessive speed, and personaly have 2 zr-1's with over 100 on them, and they have not had an easy life, so i am very curiouse to see how a pushrod engine will hold up at 7,000 rpms __________________ 90 Zr-1, Polo/Tan 91 Zr-1, Black/Black

12-02-2005	#18
tomtom72 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Jacksonville, FL USA Posts: 4,645	Re: NEW to the ZR-1. Any words to the wise? Welcome to KOTH, Tyghe!! Nice choice in vintage machinery! Just park next to a 06/Z06 & open both hoods and wait for the crowd to gather & then tell me about it. JMHO but it's apples & oranges. One is a NASCAR motor and one harkens back to the F1 motors of the late 60's early 70's. Good luck & enjoy her! Tom __________________ 1990 ZR-1, Black/grey, #2233, stock. ZR-1 Net Reg Founding Member #316 & NCM member

12-02-2005	#19
rbidwell Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Limon, CO Posts: 125	Re: NEW to the ZR-1. Any words to the wise? Have fun with the Z. If you do not have a service manual, I would suggest that be one of your first investments. Another place for good information is the following site: http://listserv.corvettemuseum.com/archives/zr1net.html. It is easy to do searchs for specific questions. If you have a problem you can post there and will get very good advice. Ron Bidwell

12-10-2005	#20
ZR-1 Mack Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mid Hudson Valley, NY Posts: 72	Re: NEW to the ZR-1. Any words to the wise? Here's the link to Helms for the service manuals. Looks like they are out of stock . Probably a phone call to them wouldn't hurt if you want one right away . Used manuals are also on Ebay from time to time. http://www.helminc.com/helm/Result.a...FX4S544RFW5BL1 __________________ ZR-1 Mack ... 91 ZR1 Black/Black #487 NY