Swapping shifters... - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

Paul Workman · 07-11-2015

Boy... After driving Ami's Z with the Hurst (short, crash-through) shifter a little bit, that is one mod I'd like to do on my 90.

Can I ask a noob kinda question? I assume the transmission has to come off to do the change...BUT DOES IT? I'd hate to drop the trans, only to find that I didn't need to.

FU · 07-11-2015

Send your stock shifter out to Bill B at ZF Doc. You and your ZF will be better off.

5ABI VT · 07-11-2015

Trans doesn't need to come out for shfter install

-=Jeff=- · 07-11-2015

Quote:

Originally Posted by FU

Send your stock shifter out to Bill B at ZF Doc. You and your ZF will be better off.

Why what is wrong with the Hurst?

Hib Halverson · 07-11-2015

There is nothing wrong with the Hurst. In fact, I feel it's a better design than most of the aftermarket shifters out there.

I've head one in my '95 for about 15 years and it works great. Somewhat shorter throw and much better feel though removal of the stock shifters rubber vibration isolator.

The Hurst was designed by Chris Reinhart who, at one time was (and may still be) a ZR-1 owner. In fact, he designed the shfiter for his own car then sold the design to Hurst.

A shifter change on a C4 with a ZF S6-40 does not require removal of the trans. You remove the center console trim then pull off the lower shift boot and, viola...there's the shifter.

Jagdpanzer · 07-11-2015

I have had both the Hust and Bill B's in my 94 Z and prefer the more solid feel of the Hurst.
A while back Johnny Phrogs posted a good write up on doing a Hust install on the other forum:
http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/...r-install.html

HAWAIIZR-1 · 07-11-2015

I'm not sure if the B&M is no longer available, but I love it more than my Hurst. I installed the Hurst in my 90 back when I got it and all I know other than stock until I bought this 95. The 95 came with a B&M and I love how it feels and goes into each gear with precision and positive action.

HAWAIIZR-1 · 07-11-2015

Not sure if this link with work since from the other forum:

http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c4/luv...4_shifters.htm

I don't agree, but this is from the designer of the Hurst shfter.

mike100 · 07-11-2015

If you are talking about converting to a 95 crash-thru shift detent, then, yes- you have to pull the trans and take it apart.

I had Bill B do that on my 91 when I had it repaired in 2011.

ZR1North · 07-12-2015

I switched to the Hurst SS this past winter after driving Bob's WARP TEN and being incredibly impressed with how it felt. I've been extremely pleased with the mod after about 1,700 miles which included mountain run 3. Marc did mine as part of the winter upgrade, but I know the transmission was not out during the project.

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Paul Workman Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Squires (near Ava MO in the Mark Twain N'tl Forest) - Missouri Posts: 6,493	Swapping shifters... Boy... After driving Ami's Z with the Hurst (short, crash-through) shifter a little bit, that is one mod I'd like to do on my 90. Can I ask a noob kinda question? I assume the transmission has to come off to do the change...BUT DOES IT? I'd hate to drop the trans, only to find that I didn't need to. __________________ Good carz, good food, good friendz = the best of timez! 90 #1202 "FBI" top end ported & relieved Cam timing by "Pete the Greek" Sans secondaries Chip & dyno tuning by Haibeck Automotive SW headers, X-pipe, MF muffs Former Secretary, ZR-1 Net Registry

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FU Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Found Member Posts: 4,346	Re: Swapping shifters... Send your stock shifter out to Bill B at ZF Doc. You and your ZF will be better off. __________________ Frank Urbo. NCM Lifetime member # 982 Registry Founding # 237

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5ABI VT Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Toronto Posts: 782	Re: Swapping shifters... Trans doesn't need to come out for shfter install

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Hib Halverson Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CenCoast California Posts: 899	Re: Swapping shifters... There is nothing wrong with the Hurst. In fact, I feel it's a better design than most of the aftermarket shifters out there. I've head one in my '95 for about 15 years and it works great. Somewhat shorter throw and much better feel though removal of the stock shifters rubber vibration isolator. The Hurst was designed by Chris Reinhart who, at one time was (and may still be) a ZR-1 owner. In fact, he designed the shfiter for his own car then sold the design to Hurst. A shifter change on a C4 with a ZF S6-40 does not require removal of the trans. You remove the center console trim then pull off the lower shift boot and, viola...there's the shifter. __________________ Hib Halverson Technical Writer former owner 95 VIN 0140 current owner 19 VIN 1878

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Jagdpanzer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 2,644	Re: Swapping shifters... I have had both the Hust and Bill B's in my 94 Z and prefer the more solid feel of the Hurst. A while back Johnny Phrogs posted a good write up on doing a Hust install on the other forum: http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/...r-install.html __________________ Phil Wasinger 1994 Torch Red ZR-1 WAZOO Member George Braml Intake

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HAWAIIZR-1 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Japan Posts: 3,540	Re: Swapping shifters... I'm not sure if the B&M is no longer available, but I love it more than my Hurst. I installed the Hurst in my 90 back when I got it and all I know other than stock until I bought this 95. The 95 came with a B&M and I love how it feels and goes into each gear with precision and positive action. __________________ Craig "ZR-1 NO KA 'OI" "ZR-1 ICHIBAN" 1995 #228 Black/Black with Dunn Heads ZR-1 owner since September 2003 ZR-1 Net Registry Founding Member #0074 NCM Lifetime Member #2048

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HAWAIIZR-1 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Japan Posts: 3,540	Re: Swapping shifters... Not sure if this link with work since from the other forum: http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c4/luv...4_shifters.htm I don't agree, but this is from the designer of the Hurst shfter. __________________ Craig "ZR-1 NO KA 'OI" "ZR-1 ICHIBAN" 1995 #228 Black/Black with Dunn Heads ZR-1 owner since September 2003 ZR-1 Net Registry Founding Member #0074 NCM Lifetime Member #2048

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mike100 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: San Marcos CA Posts: 1,802	Re: Swapping shifters... If you are talking about converting to a 95 crash-thru shift detent, then, yes- you have to pull the trans and take it apart. I had Bill B do that on my 91 when I had it repaired in 2011.

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ZR1North Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan Posts: 559	Re: Swapping shifters... I switched to the Hurst SS this past winter after driving Bob's WARP TEN and being incredibly impressed with how it felt. I've been extremely pleased with the mod after about 1,700 miles which included mountain run 3. Marc did mine as part of the winter upgrade, but I know the transmission was not out during the project.