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Old 05-20-2014   #101
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Shrade; Your OCD is starting to show. Looks to me that you have it covered. The header wrap should provide a measure of protection for the wiring. There is quite a bit of airflow through the engine bay, unless the wires are extremely close or touching hot parts, You should be good.
Hmm... I didn't get the D/S bracket milled concentric with the washer here BF; wonder if my ET's will take a hit





Dry fit...

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Old 05-20-2014   #102
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Hmm... I didn't get the D/S bracket milled concentric with the washer here BF; wonder if my ET's will suffer





Dry fit...

That looks a bit flimsy. You can get some steel stock from the hardware store - suggest some 1/2" x 1/8" strap. Use a 1/2" long 1/4" carriage bolt, nut and lock washer to hold the DS flange tight! (tightness will afford a good bit of rigidity.)
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Old 05-20-2014   #103
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I think you got it covered Schrade, your ET's should be good.

No problem with parts, if you need something, I will see what I've got.
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Old 05-20-2014   #104
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That looks a bit flimsy. You can get some steel stock from the hardware store - suggest some 1/2" x 1/8" strap. Use a 1/2" long 1/4" carriage bolt, nut and lock washer to hold the DS flange tight! (tightness will afford a good bit of rigidity.)
I've got some angle iron and flat iron around here somewhere; what do you cut brackets from there Paul? Do you spot weld them? Or leave them free?

Access to change will be easy, although I tried to move it to rub the pipe, and it's pretty tight strapping doubled.

And now, was one of the flange bolts longer? I didn't notice, as if it matters now..................



Black PTex non-hardening in the D/S grommet:



Clean up removed hardware:

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Old 05-20-2014   #105
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Looking good! She ought to be making some noise shortly. Lots of little details for " just putting headers and exhaust on the car" isnt there! It sounded so simple when I started my project. Im sure you feel the same way but it will be worth it in the end.
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Old 05-23-2014   #106
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Hit a BIG snag...

I had done a dry-fit pipes with the P side headers hung from only the center stud. That allowed header 'play' for the X-section meet-up behind the tranny. Then with the P side header locked in, the second section of PE pipe hit the tranny pan flange, front corner.

It looked like pipe compression AND pan milling was going to be necessary, but.....

So I dropped the auto pan (a nice mess), and the pipe was clear of the case by plenty. And the auto has 1K on it, so not a bad time to do fluid / filter change for break-in.

So we zipped off the lip from the pan flange, polished the edge, hung the pipe, and fit the pan.

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Old 05-23-2014   #107
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Great work, Chuck!! I really like your attention to detail.
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Old 05-24-2014   #108
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Wow - what a wrestling match.

All the hardware is hung loose. Only center the clamps and lock down, before pulling the trigger...

Boy-yo-boy, I don't like the exhaust clamp bolt hanging down from the exhaust pipes like that! It looks really nicely done, but take it from me, they will catch on the darnedest things and cause all kinds of headaches (ask me how I know!!) Everything from driving up on a U-haul car hauler to speed bumps, to driving up onto a hydraulic lift for wheel alignment (that one really got mine) to dead possums on the road!

In my case, I have some repair work on my X pipe to do as result. So, I highly suggest you rotate those clamp bolt sections to the side, if possible. Otherwise it is a problem waiting to happen. Trust me!

Very fine work, Cliff. You can come over and clean my engine bay anytime!!

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Old 05-24-2014   #109
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OH MOST DEFINITELY, rotate this clamps. Clearance is at a premium. You don't want to make it worse or you may be running open headers without any intent to do so.
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Old 05-24-2014   #110
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OH MOST DEFINITELY, rotate this clamps. Clearance is at a premium. You don't want to make it worse or you may be running open headers without any intent to do so.
Yeah, no kidding! I experienced that very thing - not on my Z, but on another car. Caught between a concrete wall and a semi while rounding a curve, a piece of concrete on the road came into view. No place to go, so I tried to straddle it best I could. Instant open headers!!
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