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Old 02-24-2010   #1
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Default Whats going to go out first,master cylinder or slave..............

For the clutch?
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Old 02-24-2010   #2
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Default Re: Whats going to go out first,master cylinder or slave..............

Either.....I would do both as a set. Did both on my 90, only did the master on the 92 and noticed that the clutch engagement is not right, will be doing the slave this spring.
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Old 02-25-2010   #3
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Either.....I would do both as a set. Did both on my 90, only did the master on the 92 and noticed that the clutch engagement is not right, will be doing the slave this spring.

Concur. I suggest doing both at the same time just did mine.

I bought my clutch master cylinder from these folks at Ebay auction #360224585374
The part was made in the UK. Works great and a good price. I would ask them if they have any more. Daryll
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Old 02-25-2010   #4
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Default Re: Whats going to go out first,master cylinder or slave..............

How much of a pain is it to get to the rod thats connected to the pedal?
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Old 02-25-2010   #5
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How much of a pain is it to get to the rod thats connected to the pedal?
actually not as bad as you would think. I don't even have to lay down to get it. The rod has an eye that goes over the pedal's stud and the locking clip holds it in place. I usually just reach up the pedal arm till I get to the rod & feel around for the clip. I guess the first time it helps to see it, but the clip has a tab that comes off of the circle and goes over the middle. Just find the edge of the tab and push up and it unlocks and slide the clip sideways and the clip comes off in your hand and the rod is free.

The knee bolster has to come down, mind the wires to the ALDL and the foot well light as they are a bit short. I usually get all the screws out, 7mm bolt heads, drop the panel and then take out the bolt for the ALDL, and then pull the connector on the light. I don't remember how many 7mm bolts in the bolster, maybe 7 I think. There are three up at the wrap around part by the side of the bolster, they hide in the fuzzy carpet. Three more on the face just under the dash edge, and one down in the very end where it turns from carpet to plastic, that one is in a recess and is almost centered in the panel. I pretty sure they are all 7mm heads. It's been a while, sorry. I'll get to do this, again, as soon as my set arrives from rockauto.

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Default Re: Whats going to go out first,master cylinder or slave..............

What Tom said. Anything under the Hush panel areas of either side of the beast in short, is always going to be a pain or a PITA if you prefer. Its not required but I would suggest pulling the seat makes life a whole lot easier to work under there. 4 Nuts, couple of harness plugs and you have plenty of room under there to work. Well plenty is subjective you have "more" room to work under there
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Default Re: Whats going to go out first,master cylinder or slave..............

Ive had the hush panel off for the brake light switch.I dont need to replace the master-slave just yet but want to get to it before they go.The trans gets funny if you hit 3rd gear hard,Ill replace the trans fluid before I change out the other parts.Thanks all for the info.
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Default Re: Whats going to go out first,master cylinder or slave..............

not wanting to tell you what to do Jeff, but it sounds like the pair should be done sooner rather than later Bro.

The going into 3rd on the funky side seems to be the tell tale generally.


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not wanting to tell you what to do Jeff, but it sounds like the pair should be done sooner rather than later Bro.

The going into 3rd on the funky side seems to be the tell tale generally.


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Thats what Bill B told me when I asked about the fluid for the trans.now,Ive got limited space in my garage.If I remove the rear inner wheel well panel will that get me more access to the slave cylinder on the bell housing?I havent takin a look under the car yet,just started looking into this job.The cars got 14,000 miles but is this an age issue opposed to miles?
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cars got 14,000 miles but is this an age issue opposed to miles?
Yes time can be just as damaging as wear even more so in some moist climates and very dry climates. Even Dave M said to drive these cars. If you dont stuff will start to break, leak and fail. Do both master cyliners if only for piece of mind. According to the ZFDoc a bad slave will kill a healthy trans fast.
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90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat

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