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Aurora40 · 12-12-2009

So I posted a question on why CF urls are stripped out from posts.

Anyway, I get a PM with the explanation that it will result in new people going to CF instead of posting here. I don't buy that, but ok apparently that's the reason. I can accept it.

But then I notice the whole thread is just gone. Not locked, but removed. And there was no mention of that in the initial PM I received.

I asked if I violated any forum rules or something without knowing it. Nope, but the topic had been discussed before, so it was removed. I don't see how it matters that different people once discussed it, but I'd think at least just lock it with that comment if you don't want it being discussed again.

Now I've gotten PMs from people saying they had replied to the thread. I never got to see them, so I don't know how many people it was nor what their opinion was.

I have to say, I find this sort of moderation to be surprising given the fairly small and friendly nature of the board here. Is this a common tactic here? Just wipe out stuff you don't agree with? Any non-Hadi folks ever had their threads removed for no clear reason?

ZZZZZR1 · 12-12-2009

I saw your post as well and there wasn't anything "wrong" with it.... Makes no sense why it was deleted.

Also I have asked why no links to the CF and got the same explanation. Personally I think we should be able to link up posts and it would not take away from out Membership. I don't like to post up negatives about our site (I proudly heavily promote it to friends in person and post up links on the CF to OUR site) and think our site is well run! The use of this forum has grown tremendously in the past 3 years and many of our hard core guys have made this happen!!!!!

I hope we will reconsider deleting posts (sending PM's to people that get posts deleted) and allowing links to other Corvette websites.

Cheers

David

QB93Z · 12-12-2009

I agree with you Bob. The CF link ban has bothered me for a long time. I got a similar PM when I asked about a year ago.

I am very surprised that your entire thread was deleted.

I would like to see a reply from someone on the Board of Directors of the ZR-1 Net Registry explaining if and why the link ban is in place.

Jim

Kevin · 12-12-2009

CF doesn't allow for other forum linking, last I was there which has been a while since I was banned. I see no reason to link to that site whatever the official reason is. hell I see no reason to even go there for ZR-1 related stuff, we've got the best of the best here. however deleting posts is something I'd like to see end

flyin ryan · 12-12-2009

Waste of time going there anyways...I rarely go anymore.

Dynomite · 12-12-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aurora40

So I posted a question on why CF urls are stripped out from posts.

I have to say, I find this sort of moderation to be surprising given the fairly small and friendly nature of the board here.

I concur

Is this a common tactic here?

I do not think it is common or a tactic

Any non-Hadi folks ever had their threads removed for no clear reason?

I have seen a non-Hadi thread removed....so answer is yes

GOLDCYLON · 12-12-2009

Was not me Bob

12-13-2009

Bob, the issue at one point and time that people were not posting content here. They would rather cut and paste a url to CF and say get your info here. And well, people still sometimes do it.

The Z Registry is it's own living breathing entity and should be treated as such. We support our vehicles and the content should live here as well.

WB9MCW · 12-13-2009

My Observations

There are many ZR-1 Forums
CF
DC
CAC
CV
EES
and until last year CF (Crossed Flags)

I have posted and am a member on them all.

ZR-1 Brotherhood is great no matter where you go and diversity is what makes the USA great and what it truly is.

After all the world would be a really boring place if we were all the same.

Now as far as CF goes. The mod's and rules there have resulted in many a PO and banned ZRONER.

One by one at at one point many came over here to hang out at the true home of the BEAST.

No reason that one should feel that they can't hang out in more than one forum -- remember the diversity comment --

But at the end of the day the true home of the beast is here and this has always been the goal of this forum -- To be the home base for the active ZR-1 owner where the largest concentration of the owners hang out and swap stories and mechanical knowledge about our pride and joy.

I think we have arrived. It has been a long journey since I joined and only a few were here in the early days.

As any group grows you always tend to see a bit of tension and and a problem arise every now and then. It is the nature of human interaction. Remember the famous quote "Why can't we all just get along"?

========

My Opinion

The Mods have done a great job here over the years. Must be that great pay they receive for their services.

The do not always explain their actions nor to they have to.

Hey I even have certain Vette Babe Photos deleted from time to time that I really can't figure out why or what the problem could have been.

But never fear I move on and don't bother with trivia of needing to know exactly why.

Sometimes in life things are not always fair or explained to us to our total satisfaction.

Take brother HADI for example -- he marches to a different beat of the drum for sure -- and that will always raise attention == some good (diversity) some bad (goofy guy what is up with that nut) but the HADI's of the world is what makes it go around and offers some balance -- a counterpoise if you will that keeps things exciting and not so boring and hum drum.

Enough of the opinion part.

++++++++++++++

We may or may not see the Mod's answer this specific question or offer an explanation for their actions.

By public explanation or in PM's.

It is their prerogative plain and simple.

Life moves on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

tccrab · 12-13-2009

Bryan says it all right here:

Quote:

ZR-1 Brotherhood is great
<snip>
The Mods have done a great job here over the years.
<snip>
The do not always explain their actions nor to they have to.
<snip>
Sometimes in life things are not always fair or explained to us to our total satisfaction.

Nothing more needs said.

Long live the King Of The Hill and his followers.

TomC
"Crabs"

12-12-2009	#1
Aurora40 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Leesburg, VA Posts: 2,713	Post deletes?? So I posted a question on why CF urls are stripped out from posts. Anyway, I get a PM with the explanation that it will result in new people going to CF instead of posting here. I don't buy that, but ok apparently that's the reason. I can accept it. But then I notice the whole thread is just gone. Not locked, but removed. And there was no mention of that in the initial PM I received. I asked if I violated any forum rules or something without knowing it. Nope, but the topic had been discussed before, so it was removed. I don't see how it matters that different people once discussed it, but I'd think at least just lock it with that comment if you don't want it being discussed again. Now I've gotten PMs from people saying they had replied to the thread. I never got to see them, so I don't know how many people it was nor what their opinion was. I have to say, I find this sort of moderation to be surprising given the fairly small and friendly nature of the board here. Is this a common tactic here? Just wipe out stuff you don't agree with? Any non-Hadi folks ever had their threads removed for no clear reason? __________________ Bob Saveland Former owner of #2517 [IMG]http://a.random-image.net/aurora40/vette.jpg[/img]

12-12-2009	#2
ZZZZZR1 Banned BANNED Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: MD Posts: 3,690	Re: Post deletes?? I saw your post as well and there wasn't anything "wrong" with it.... Makes no sense why it was deleted. Also I have asked why no links to the CF and got the same explanation. Personally I think we should be able to link up posts and it would not take away from out Membership. I don't like to post up negatives about our site (I proudly heavily promote it to friends in person and post up links on the CF to OUR site) and think our site is well run! The use of this forum has grown tremendously in the past 3 years and many of our hard core guys have made this happen!!!!! I hope we will reconsider deleting posts (sending PM's to people that get posts deleted) and allowing links to other Corvette websites. Cheers David Last edited by ZZZZZR1; 12-12-2009 at 09:33 PM.

12-12-2009	#3
QB93Z Join Date: May 2007 Location: Westminster, Maryland Posts: 3,687	Re: Post deletes?? I agree with you Bob. The CF link ban has bothered me for a long time. I got a similar PM when I asked about a year ago. I am very surprised that your entire thread was deleted. I would like to see a reply from someone on the Board of Directors of the ZR-1 Net Registry explaining if and why the link ban is in place. Jim __________________ If it isn't fun, you aren't doing it right! 1990 Black ZR-1 - sold 1993 Quasar Blue ZR-1 1994 Competition Yellow ZR-1 1995 Dark Purple ZR-1 Maryland State Coordinator WAZOO Member

12-12-2009	#4
Kevin Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: pittsburgh Posts: 4,633	Re: Post deletes?? CF doesn't allow for other forum linking, last I was there which has been a while since I was banned. I see no reason to link to that site whatever the official reason is. hell I see no reason to even go there for ZR-1 related stuff, we've got the best of the best here. however deleting posts is something I'd like to see end __________________ It's not the car, it's the people - Doug Johnson 90 r/r "KEYS ON" nick named "T.L.B"

12-12-2009	#5
flyin ryan Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Edmonton, Alberta or Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 2,742	Re: Post deletes?? Waste of time going there anyways...I rarely go anymore. __________________ There are no limit's mans ingenuity, just as mans ingenuity will never conquer the forces & behavior of this planet...Smokey Y.

12-12-2009	#7
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12-13-2009	#8
Jeffvette Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Post deletes?? Bob, the issue at one point and time that people were not posting content here. They would rather cut and paste a url to CF and say get your info here. And well, people still sometimes do it. The Z Registry is it's own living breathing entity and should be treated as such. We support our vehicles and the content should live here as well.

12-13-2009	#9
WB9MCW Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: McHenry, Il. Posts: 6,607	Re: Post deletes?? My Observations There are many ZR-1 Forums CF DC CAC CV EES and until last year CF (Crossed Flags) I have posted and am a member on them all. ZR-1 Brotherhood is great no matter where you go and diversity is what makes the USA great and what it truly is. After all the world would be a really boring place if we were all the same. Now as far as CF goes. The mod's and rules there have resulted in many a PO and banned ZRONER. One by one at at one point many came over here to hang out at the true home of the BEAST. No reason that one should feel that they can't hang out in more than one forum -- remember the diversity comment -- But at the end of the day the true home of the beast is here and this has always been the goal of this forum -- To be the home base for the active ZR-1 owner where the largest concentration of the owners hang out and swap stories and mechanical knowledge about our pride and joy. I think we have arrived. It has been a long journey since I joined and only a few were here in the early days. As any group grows you always tend to see a bit of tension and and a problem arise every now and then. It is the nature of human interaction. Remember the famous quote "Why can't we all just get along"? ======== My Opinion The Mods have done a great job here over the years. Must be that great pay they receive for their services. The do not always explain their actions nor to they have to. Hey I even have certain Vette Babe Photos deleted from time to time that I really can't figure out why or what the problem could have been. But never fear I move on and don't bother with trivia of needing to know exactly why. Sometimes in life things are not always fair or explained to us to our total satisfaction. Take brother HADI for example -- he marches to a different beat of the drum for sure -- and that will always raise attention == some good (diversity) some bad (goofy guy what is up with that nut) but the HADI's of the world is what makes it go around and offers some balance -- a counterpoise if you will that keeps things exciting and not so boring and hum drum. Enough of the opinion part. ++++++++++++++ We may or may not see the Mod's answer this specific question or offer an explanation for their actions. By public explanation or in PM's. It is their prerogative plain and simple. Life moves on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> __________________ http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...9mcw/SIG-2.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o128/wb9mcw/vcm.gif "The Budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed, lest Rome will become bankrupt. People must again learn to work instead of living on public assistance." - Cicero, 55 BC " We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution." - Abraham Lincoln