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xxxscimitarxxx
10-12-2009, 04:13 AM
as the heading says......

these are from a C6 l think.....Brembos?.....about a year old.....front and rear but this is the only pic l have so far

got a buy pending for $800

are these a direct replacement or is there any thing else l would need to fit to a 90/92 Z

top and bottom joints etc??

Jeffvette
10-12-2009, 04:31 AM
Those are the 993 Porsche Calipers. Commonly referred to as "Big Reds"

They will fit, but when you look at the hat, they are much thicker and will push the wheel out further.

xxxscimitarxxx
10-12-2009, 07:09 AM
for the fronts I think lm getting the whole joint in the deal as you see it....then hopefully just fit in between my A arms (thats the hope anyway)

Q....is there an issue with pushing the wheel out on that hub or should l just strip of the rotors and calipers and fit to my Z stock assembly (if they do that is)

and is there any major braking improvement to be expected or am l just wasting time and money with this

Dynomite
10-12-2009, 08:10 AM
Those are the 993 Porsche Calipers. Commonly referred to as "Big Reds"

They will fit, but when you look at the hat, they are much thicker and will push the wheel out further.

How different are the 933 "type" Porsche Calipers for C6 (that has Corvette on them) from the 933 Porsche Calipers for a 933 Porsche?

Will the 933 "type" Porsche Calipers from a C6 as per picture above fit a 1991 ZR1 if you change rotors?

I assume the red brake calipers from a C5 stamped "Corvette" will fit a 1991 ZR1 without changing rotors or other hardware including brake lines?

xxxscimitarxxx
10-12-2009, 09:32 AM
errrrrrrrr

so what do l have here in the pic?

C6 (porsche 933 type) calipers

and rotors from what

will any of this fit my Z ??

gbrtng
10-12-2009, 09:40 AM
for the fronts I think lm getting the whole joint in the deal as you see it....then hopefully just fit in between my A arms (thats the hope anyway)

Q....is there an issue with pushing the wheel out on that hub or should l just strip of the rotors and calipers and fit to my Z stock assembly (if they do that is)

and is there any major braking improvement to be expected or am l just wasting time and money with this

Yes, the issue is that the roll center of the front suspension is disturbed and the loadings on the wheel bearings are changed causing them to wear faster, and handling at the adhesion limit is different.
When you buy the system from Guido or his suppliers for the C4, they provide rotor hats that are thick enough for the caliper to clear your specific wheels. The outward spacing for the 91 wheels is about 7/8", and for the 94 wheels about 3/8". I don't know about the 90 wheels.

The braking is impressive and in the many years I used this system on the track, I never faded the brakes. Replacement rotors and pads are for a twin turbo 993 Porsche and pretty pricey. Pay your money and take your choice.
For street use and bragging rights, save your money - use the stock C5 calipers and rotors (or just keep it stock).

xxxscimitarxxx
10-12-2009, 09:53 AM
lm sorry.....lm lost

rotors in the pic are 933 porsche

calipers are C6 ?

cant (or shouldnt) use the rotors

if l (can) use the calipers l need different rotors ?

gbrtng
10-12-2009, 10:20 AM
You first need to find our exactly what you are trying to buy. I and Jeff think those are Porsche 993 calipers but I don't know what they are being used on now. They probably came from this source:

http://www.movit.de/rahmen/corvette.htm

Dynomite
10-12-2009, 11:51 AM
lm sorry.....lm lost

rotors in the pic are 933 porsche

calipers are C6 ?

cant (or shouldnt) use the rotors

if l (can) use the calipers l need different rotors ?

xxxscimitarxxx .....I am confused also ;) Those calipers in your picture do not look like either C6 or C5 calipers.

I was under impression that C6 calipers (They look like Brembo) would not fit a 1991 ZR1 and that C5 calipers WOULD fit a 1991 ZR1 without changing the rotor:dontknow:

I am not sure if the brake bads are larger on the C5 calipers or if C5 calipers give you more braking than standard ZR1 calipers. The C5 calipers I have seen on ZR1s definitely look nicer being red and having Corvette stamped on them in white letters.

I painted my ZR1 calipers red :occasion1

xxxscimitarxxx
10-12-2009, 02:37 PM
Ok guys....thanks

I think l will pass on the deal.....lm sure l can pick up C5 calipers for what lm paying on this uncertain package

thanks for all help

what would a guy do owning a Z without all you other guys helping out

viva la register

Dave

Aurora40
10-12-2009, 02:52 PM
I think l will pass on the deal.....lm sure l can pick up C5 calipers for what lm paying on this uncertain package
Those are one hell of a lot nicer than C5 calipers!

xxxscimitarxxx
10-12-2009, 03:20 PM
they are sweet.....but will l spend another 800 getting em to fit

however....l mailed the guy whos selling em....and he says the pics of the brakes are on a 94 C4

so lm still wondering

Jeffvette
10-12-2009, 03:21 PM
Not sure what all the confusion is. They are shown currently bolted up to a later C4.

Those are the 993 Porsche Brembo calipers. They are a radial mount which gives you a bigger cross section to be applied to. They are a 4 piston design.

These bear no resemblance to the Brembo calipers on the current C6 ZR1 which are a 6 piston design.

scholtmj
10-13-2009, 10:59 PM
These look a lot like the Brembo's that were on my car:

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr221/unclescholt/IMG_2039.jpg

Different rotor but the center section looks just as thick. They do move the wheels out a bit but everything fits! Don't be afraid of them at all.

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr221/unclescholt/IMG_1933.jpg

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr221/unclescholt/NittoNT01015.jpg

xxxscimitarxxx
10-14-2009, 06:50 AM
seller assures me of the fit so lm doing it

and they do look pretty......and BIG

Dave

italian job
10-17-2009, 12:19 AM
These calipers look very similar to my brembo 4 piston calipers.
If these calipers are brembo they will not be a direct replacement, you will need to remove OEM caliper bracket and install a custom bracket (or adapter)
Also, because they are 4 piston design, you must be sure to have enough clearance from caliper outside to wheel inside, if the caliper is too large it can touch the wheel. (But you can also install some custom wheel spacers)
On my 90 zr1 brembo calipers fit very good; I simply installed a custom caliper bracket (and a pair of 13" brembo rotors) and no other mods. The braking performance is much more and not comparable with original calipers.:thumbsup:
For example: Brembo calipers taken out from a "Ferrari F40" or from a "Lancia delta integrale evo" will fit very good on c4 zr1. But I think other old supercars too have same calipers as factory installed.

Surely you can switch for a C5 calipers, (corvette central offer a complete C5 kit for $999.00.) but at end C5 calipers are very similar to C4 ZR1 HD calipers. Infact they will fit on a C4 with less or little mods, But I think is a loss of money...[-X



as the heading says......

these are from a C6 l think.....Brembos?.....about a year old.....front and rear but this is the only pic l have so far

got a buy pending for $800

are these a direct replacement or is there any thing else l would need to fit to a 90/92 Z

top and bottom joints etc??