Honestly would you rather have a z06?

[902066]

If you could sell your ZR-1 right now for close to what you have invested, would you sell and get a new z06? Even if you have a great ZR-l [low mileage, mint condition, stroked, dunn heads, yellow, whatever], do you really wish you had a new z06 instead?

[Kb7tif]

Much rather have a 415 Zr-1. More fun :mrgreen:
You cannot really argue on a modern 427, but at 45K Its a bit much.

[jonszr1]

having never driven a z06 dont ,really know ,the power is nice , but for the price of a zo6 75k. i would rather build a 415 for 30k and keep the zr1.

[RICKYRJ1]

NO

[Z51JEFF]

No.Id be nice to have the power and the car is gorgeous,but its not a ZR-1.

[secondchance]

If you could sell your ZR-1 right now for close to what you have invested, would you sell and get a new z06? Even if you have a great ZR-l [low mileage, mint condition, stroked, dunn heads, yellow, whatever], do you really wish you had a new z06 instead?

No. New Z06 may produce more hp and run quicker and faster but I am a firm believer that an LT5 w/ quad cams, resulting in lower reciprocating mass, is one of few motors that are happy to rev for a whole day if needed. Of course we may not run 24 hr endurance record but the very same nature of this motor results in longevity.
Every time I drive this car, and 94 ZR-1 is my daily driver, I marvel at smoothness at any rpm. It feels like a fine Swiss watch.
Besides, every time I climb in it's 1991 all over again, the best year in my life...:cheers:

[rebelz]

Absolutely not.
Rich

[Jeffvette]

I severely want a Z06, but will not get rid of the ZR-1 to do it.

[Paul Workman]

I severely want a Z06, but will not get rid of the ZR-1 to do it.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

P.

[ZR1Vette]

Interesting question... I doubt most LT5 drivers would say yes and in my case...well I would say no too. But my reason might be a bit different than some others... I have a wonderful ZR and totally appreciate its uniqueness and historic engineering... of course the engine is a standout and having owned Lotus cars there is a special connection there for me.
I also own a Lingenfelter set up C6 coupe (Lemans Blue)>>
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/MRBLU/C6newwheelswithengine.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/MRBLU/C6LMBongrass.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/MRBLU/C6newinterior609II.jpg

It is customized and puts out 470 RWHP, shows 20 years of engineering improvements over the ZR (such as brakes, chassis, lighting etc., but I still like the seats, engine and tranny of the ZR over the C6). Yes, it is very quick and I immensely enjoy driving it. Would I choose a Z06 over this C6... no... why? might sound a bit foolish but comes down to the removable top on the C6...I had a choice between the C6 and the Z06 and the top issue swung the vote. The way I have the C6 set up (power, interior enhancements, brakes, Z51 etc etc) I am not giving anything away to a Z06.

For fun comparison>>
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/MRBLU/ZR1C6nosetonoseoverview.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/MRBLU/C6ZR1fronthoodsupcloseup.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/MRBLU/ZR1C6nosefromground.jpg

[jimmac28]

NO

:cheers:

[Hammer]

The ZR-1 does it for me. I remember when they came out, sticker shock for sure. And the performance was second to none. I also have a Yamaha Vmax that is in the same catagory as far as performance goes. They both rocked their respective worlds when introduced.

A 441 (or bigger) would definetly be sweet.

[billybaloneey]

With the exception of most C1's, C2' & C3's, prices continue to drop...including our ZR-1's. A week doesn't go by on this forum when some new or old member tells of a great ZR-1 deal they made or are thinking about making. With that said, the Z06's are dropping in price too. Soon, if not already, there are some C5 Z06 deals to be had...and more to come. The C6 Z06 deals are few and far between because they still retain "new-ness".

Can't say I would rather have a Z06, but I would jump at the chance to own one, in addition to keeping the ZR-1. I'm not activly looking but there should, or soon will be Z06's at semi-affordable prices.

The "Mis-riz" would not allow it, even if it was a steal-of-a-deal, unless I gave up something I have now. Women...most of them...they just don't understand how Corvette's effect guys.

[tomtom72]

Okay right now my thinking is impaired due to some issues......

But, sometimes I think it would be nice to have a car that I can get parts for easily. I think a ZO6 doesn't suffer from our passion's particular situation of being a "one of a kind".

The one thing that I would miss sorely is the "feeling" you get from owning a really unique part of the corvette line, even if you are the only one that realizes that fact! ;)

Oh, and the relative silence from the engine room that you experience as you move on a deserted super highway at night on your way to the Gathering at BG.......that is something special!

I guess, on balance, I'd have to say "no" to the trade proposal.:mrgreen:

[secondchance]

"Interesting question... I doubt most LT5 drivers would say yes and in my case...well I would say no too. But my reason might be a bit different than some others... I have a wonderful ZR and totally appreciate its uniqueness and historic engineering... of course the engine is a standout and having owned Lotus cars there is a special connection there for me.
I also own a Lingenfelter set up C6 coupe (Lemans Blue)>>"

And may I say, Michael, they are an incredible pair!

[XfireZ51]

The Z06 is a car I would seriously consider in place of the ZR. However, when I first got the ZR, I had originally started out by looking at C5 Z06s. I was disappointed not by the power and handling but by how "flimsy" it felt. Interior wise the ZR wins hands down IMO.
I also thought about the transaxle on the C5 and difficulty in
doing any trans/clutch work. LS motor is great, but my current setup easily handles stock
LS 2 and 3 motors. The T-Top was another criteria. So right now, if GM gets healthy again, I'll wait and see what the C7 brings. Guess I am partial to smaller displacement motors.

[Aurora40]

The ZR-1 does it for me.
Me too. I definitely wouldn't sell my Z for top dollar and then pay the difference for a Z06. Z06's don't do it for me. I love the stats and that GM makes something like that. But I just don't have any interest in one. I would of course trade straight-up for one, but only to sell it and buy something else (probably my Z back) and pocket the difference.

Now the new ZR1... :dancing That thing really hits the spot. However even if I could sell my Z for everything I had into it, I still couldn't afford a new ZR1. So it's irrelevant. And honestly, at the price some seem to go for, I'd probably try to get into a Ford GT instead. But again, irrelevant as I can't afford either.

[VetteMed]

Me too. I definitely wouldn't sell my Z for top dollar and then pay the difference for a Z06. Z06's don't do it for me. I love the stats and that GM makes something like that. But I just don't have any interest in one. I would of course trade straight-up for one, but only to sell it and buy something else (probably my Z back) and pocket the difference.


That about sums it up for me too. I love my ZR-1, I wanted one from the time I first heard about them (of course, I was only about 10 years old at that time). 20 years later, it was worth the wait! I think the only way I'd sell it is to replace it with another ZR-1 (stroker, perhaps).

[DMark]

I sold my C5 Z06 to buy my ZR-1.

Yet....., I'm watching the price of C6 Z06s.

Once the Z06s drop to a certain point I might be in for one but would still keep the ZR-1. I think within a year or two we'll begin to see all C6s take a big hit in value.

[Eric870]

I wish i could have both....

[DaveK]

Wouldn't have one if they gave them away. Some of the technology is nice but for my eyes the styling has completely gone and it looks like something produced by mitsu-hondo-ssan. Closely resembles a wide mouthed grinning frog.

Hmmm if they were giving them away I'd take it, sell it and buy another ZR-1.

:)

[MB ZR1]

As a newer ZR-1 owner I may have a fresher view on things. Mine is 1st vette I've owned. I grew up through the C4 era so I've always loved the body style. That being said I have been lucky to find a great ZR-1, which is by far the best of the C4s. I could have bought a Z06 but chose my ZR-1 for all the above reasons. A 2nd vette could someday be in my future, but i will always love my ZR-1.

[Kevin]

only if i didn't have to sell my zr-1 to get it. I WANT a z06 but i'm not selling the king to get it

[32valvZ]

Instead of my ZR-1, NO. In addition to my ZR-1, absolutely :thumbsup:

[4DSZR1]

Instead of my ZR-1, NO. In addition to my ZR-1, absolutely :thumbsup:

I hate to say ditto, but ditto. The ZR-1 is my 5th Corvette (one at a time) and its the first one that I can honestly say I'll keep. But Like Jeff F, I want a Z06 in the worst way...Thanks Nick ;)

[gbrtng]

An acquaintance with an 08 Z06 had it puke its guts in a high G LH turn at the Joliet Autobahn. About 10k miles and the old GM told him they would not repair it. Apparently there is an inherent oiling problem that is now showing up. Keep the ZR-1s folks.

[evl_twn]

I wouldn't mind having a new Z06, but I wouldn't sell the ZR-1 to get one.

I'm never selling my ZR-1, too much family history (was my Uncle's #1 car before he passed away) and also the car has a bit of GM/Corvette history.

[Z Factor]

I've driven stock and modified C6 Z06's and have enjoyed them. However I would not sell mine to be able to buy one.

The price of Z06's are dropping like all other used cars. There was a 2007 with a 4L package with only 4k on it that sold the other day for $48,000 :jawdrop:
So those of you wanting both, be patient because you will be able to afford one sooner than you think(without selling your KOTH).

:cheers:

[thethrillofspeed]

I really want a Z06, but no way am I selling my ZR-1 to get it. Perfectly willing to sell my L98 to free up garage space.

[Z51JEFF]

There was a 2007 with a 4L package with only 4k on it that sold the other day for $48,000 :jawdrop:


That right there is just disgusting...............but funny.$48,000,Damn.

[Ccmano]

Yup, low to mid $40K's is not uncommon for 06' and some 07' Z06's. C5 Z06's can be had for low to mid $20k's. I've been watching the prices. Should go even lower over the winter.

For me, I wouldn't give up my Z, but I sure would like to add C6 Z06 to the stable. Given my finances that's not happening anytime soon.

H
:cheers:

[Jim Nolan]

I would not trade mine for a ZO6. With the mods I have now I think I can handle any STOCK C5 ZO6. The thing that always impressed me the most about a ZR-1 is when you look at a LT5 you see all motor. Look at any other engine and you see plastic cosmetics to hid the ugly and make it look pretty.

[Gunny]

I would not choose a Z06 over my ZR-1 as my only Vette. I just sold my C5 the day before I left for Carlisle ... it was very low miles, a comfortable cruiser (wife loved that part), not loud (wife REALLY loved that part, had enough performance for "normal" drivers, etc. etc. etc. But it did not have the character or uniqueness of the Z. Will I get another Vette to go with the Z? probably ... and the Z06 would be one that I would seriously consider along with other C5s or C6s with some decent performance. But the Z will remain in the stable.

George

[FU]

All the Z's are staying where they are for now.

[Geof180]

no, i'd still rather have my ZR-1 over the Z06... i love the exclusivity of the car... and the fact people will actually do u-turns in the road just to come back and take a look at it.. ;)

Z06s are a dime a dozen now - and for a reason... that car is hands down bad ***! but in my opinion, they will never have the same meaning to people the ZR-1 has...

yeah the LS7 is incredible and all... fuel economy this and that... and of course, the the Z06 handles better - is more comfortable.. blah blah...

and it should be - the car is newer! everything Chebby learned with the 4th gen cars they applied to the 5th and 6th gens...

pop the hood of a Z06 and you have a tupperware party... open the ZR-1's clamshell and you have a true work of art! :mrgreen:

when i go to the weekly car show tonight, i will prolly have the only ZR-1 there... there will prolly be 5 or 6 Z06s

[Polo-1]

If you could sell your ZR-1 right now for close to what you have invested, would you.

HELL YA

Take your pick
1994 AB/black 402 stroker sooner or later
1990 red/red 179 miles "MSO"

Way to many other nice ZR-1's out there at give away prices.

[Kb7tif]

I've driven stock and modified C6 Z06's and have enjoyed them. However I would not sell mine to be able to buy one.

The price of Z06's are dropping like all other used cars. There was a 2007 with a 4L package with only 4k on it that sold the other day for $48,000 :jawdrop:
So those of you wanting both, be patient because you will be able to afford one sooner than you think(without selling your KOTH).

:cheers:

I will have one also, one cannot knock a modern 427... Drop forced induction on there..

[White Bullet]

The short answer is no. My first Corvette was a 1986 model, nice car and very good power for its day. Then Chevy dropped the ZR-1 :worship: and I wanted one but it was to steep for my pocket. So over the years I upgraded Corvettes including a C-5 but with my eye on the ZR-1. I have now had mine for 18 months and the craving for anything else went away from my first moment of ownership. Z06 is what it is but it is not in my future as I do not have any plans to part the with King.

[95ZR1#418]

Would I choose a Z06 over this C6... no... why? might sound a bit foolish but comes down to the removable top on the C6...I had a choice between the C6 and the Z06 and the top issue swung the vote.

Foolish?? When I was looking for a ZR-1 I also was trying to decide between it & a Z06. The bottom line for me was the removable top, I just couldn't have a "sports car" that you couldn't feel the air in your hair... I could not own a Z06 once I realized it had to be a hard top. I figured if I needed more Hp, I had the best & most unique engine (and looking model,C4 vs C5) to build from.

Sorry, but I can't stomach the new headlights(maybe so if they were concealed) makes the front end look very ugly, reminds me of an insects eye with multiple lenses. Combine that with a hard top only leaves you one option, take the '95 ZR-1 and don't look back...

Up to my response everyone has been "hands down" to keep the ZR-1 over trading for a Z06......EXCEPT POLO 1 !!! Who exactly is this Polo 1 ??
Well, I honestly don't think you could pry that Admiral Blue out of his hands for what he has into it, but he'd probably trade that second ZR-1!!! That makes this post 100% ZR-1 Keepers........:cool:

[Polo-1]

Come on now Bob

If I could sell one of my Z's for what I have into it:wave:
Then I could go buy your Z at market value of $10k all would be good.:sign10:

Thats all I see latey Z's are only 10-17K :rolleyes:
Atleast that's what the chevy dealer told me:dontknow:

[95ZR1#418]

Come on now Bob

If I could sell one of my Z's for what I have into it:wave:
Then I could go buy your Z at market value of $10k all would be good.:sign10:

Thats all I see latey Z's are only 10-17K :rolleyes:
Atleast that's what the chevy dealer told me:dontknow:

Geez..
Nick did really good then! No doubt about it, I will hang onto mine until I could get at least 80% back, can I live that long?? Probably not.

Of course, the question was specific, an upgrade? to a Z06. But, if I could get a reasonable price for my '95 it would be gone, and I would buy a GT-40 kit & enjoy the build.

For now, and probably the next 10 years, I have a '95 ZR-1. I really can't complain, it could have been a Nissan B210 with no hope.:cool:

[flyin ryan]

No, don't think so. Good jam, but it 'Is' 427 cube, per inch they are very marginally better than a 405 HP LT-5. Although I did port the head's & intake on one plus a mild cam change, never touched the bottom end at all, & it made 660+ HP (Flywheel/engine dyno) very easily, which would be another story altogether :). ZR-1's will be way more exclusive in coming year's, although like you all, doesn't seem like it now...GM made lot's of Z06's. Hate the seat's too. I had one up to 171 MPH around a sweeping curve, I was sliding over in the seat :censored:, WTF is that about, is supposed to be a sport's car...:cool:

[Z51JEFF]

and the fact people will actually do u-turns in the road just to come back and take a look at it.. ;)

Z06s are a dime a dozen now - and for a reason... that car is hands down bad ***! but in my opinion, they will never have the same meaning to people the ZR-1 has...


The people where I live wouldnt know a ZR-1 if it ran over them.

[GrayZ]

No, don't think so. Good jam, but it 'Is' 427 cube, per inch they are very marginally better than a 405 HP LT-5. Although I did port the head's & intake on one plus a mild cam change, never touched the bottom end at all, & it made 660+ HP (Flywheel/engine dyno) very easily, which would be another story altogether :). ZR-1's will be way more exclusive in coming year's, although like you all, doesn't seem like it now...GM made lot's of Z06's. Hate the seat's too. I had one up to 171 MPH around a sweeping curve, I was sliding over in the seat :censored:, WTF is that about, is supposed to be a sport's car...:cool:

171 AROUND A CORNER?? I WOULD HAD OTHER PROBLEMS
WITH THE SEATS.

[XfireZ51]

To some people they are the automotive equivalent of a unicorn. I had a C5 Z check me out back to front the other night sort of like, "Is that what I think it is?" while doing about 65 on the Elgin O'Hare. ;)

[Paul Workman]

To some people they are the automotive equivalent of a unicorn. I had a C5 Z check me out back to front the other night sort of like, "Is that what I think it is?" while doing about 65 on the Elgin O'Hare. ;)

IF you had dropped her into 3rd and stood on it, he wouldn't have had anymore questions, I recon!;) He'd prolly offer you his GF to have your RPMs, torque, and HP curves!:worship::sign10:

P.

[rhipsher]

No, don't think so. Good jam, but it 'Is' 427 cube, per inch they are very marginally better than a 405 HP LT-5. Although I did port the head's & intake on one plus a mild cam change, never touched the bottom end at all, & it made 660+ HP (Flywheel/engine dyno) very easily, which would be another story altogether :). ZR-1's will be way more exclusive in coming year's, although like you all, doesn't seem like it now...GM made lot's of Z06's. Hate the seat's too. I had one up to 171 MPH around a sweeping curve, I was sliding over in the seat :censored:, WTF is that about, is supposed to be a sport's car...:cool: I totally agree with Ryan. I test drove a 2008 atomic orange 505 Z06. It was faster but not by a hell of a whole lot. It was a brand new car compared to my 90 Z. I loved the navigation system in it. It was much easier to get in and out of because of the seats. I expected it to be so much faster than my Z that I was afraid it would tarnish my image of my Z. That wasn't the case though. Besides the only reason I'd even buy another corvette would be if it was another Zr-1 or a big block classic vette. Otherwise this is going to be the next toy I pursue.
Ferrari Testarossa 512TR. I think this would look great parked next to the Z in my garage.:mrgreen:

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn63/keeno1970/800px-Ferrari_Testarossa_-_001.jpg

[Kevin]

I totally agree with Ryan. I test drove a 2008 atomic orange 505 Z06. It was faster but not by a hell of a whole lot.

this is at odds with what i've heard from several other owners of c6z06 and ZR-1s

[FU]

this is at odds with what i've heard from several other owners of c6z06 and ZR-1s

I wouldn't bet on that. Guy's I'm a ZR1 nut but the ZO6 is a force to be recconed with.
My silver (06 ZO6) will dust my 385 car and will give the 440 a run for it's money.

[Kevin]

I wouldn't bet on that. Guy's I'm a ZR1 nut but the ZO6 is a force to be recconed with.
My silver (06 ZO6) will dust my 385 car and will give the 440 a run for it's money.

this is what I meant Frank.

[Nick]

I made the move this year. Sold the ZR-1 to exactly the right guy, bought a Z06. I miss the ZR-1, but I'm glad I made the move.
The ZR-1 is exotic. The Z06 is quick, nimble, sexy, and just plain balls out fun. :thumbsup:

[flyin ryan]

A ZR-1 would have to be fairly warmed over to stay with a Z06, they are quick out of the box, no doubt about that. Pull hard from the get go, again, 427 cubes.

[bb62]

I don't think I'd want the Z06 over my ZR-1 - I already have a 427 Corvette. When I was looking last year, I specifically wanted the ZR-1 with the LT5. It is a car with an historical place that neither Z06 (C5 or C6) can occupy. The new ZR1 is an interesting car, but I would consider that as an additional car if I had the room. Truth is I don't have the room at the moment and am happy with what I do have. Sure the new Z06 and ZR1 are faster cars, but I can't drive mine over 100 most anywhere anyway.

This is my 427:

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1864/004fg.jpg

[Jeffvette]

A ZR-1 would have to be fairly warmed over to stay with a Z06, they are quick out of the box, no doubt about that. Pull hard from the get go, again, 427 cubes.


My 368 hangs even with a stock 06 Z06from a roll 60-160. Start throwing mods on the Z06, forget about it!

[BlackWidow#2]

The LT5 has a very good and unique sound running up the rpm range. The 92-93 seats fit me perfectly. The ZR1 is one of the best styled vettes ever. Love the wide rear end and the way the sides twist out from the doors. And DRM modified suspension make it drive like it's on rails.

The new Z06 is very fast and has a lot of nice features. Not the seats though. I am glad I have been blessed with both. It is quick.

George
91 Black ZR1, Black widow#2, (the one with the off road engine)
08 Jet Stream Blue Z06

[phrogs]

I would not sell my ZR-1 to buy a Z06 I would sell my ZR-1 to buy another ZR-1 and I think I might!

But I do want a C6 Z06 probably a 06 so I can get the Lemans Blue.

Now does that have the gawd awful bosh fuel injection like the earlier testarossas? My 82 308 has that fuel injection and its crap I hate it.

I Ferrari Testarossa 512TR. I think this would look great parked next to the Z in my garage.:mrgreen:

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn63/keeno1970/800px-Ferrari_Testarossa_-_001.jpg

[secondchance]

I would not sell my ZR-1 to buy a Z06 I would sell my ZR-1 to buy another ZR-1 and I think I might!

But I do want a C6 Z06 probably a 06 so I can get the Lemans Blue.

Now does that have the gawd awful bosh fuel injection like the earlier testarossas? My 82 308 has that fuel injection and its crap I hate it.

Hey John,

Are you having issues with Bosch? May I ask what it is?

[USAFPILOT]

I totally agree with Ryan. I test drove a 2008 atomic orange 505 Z06. It was faster but not by a hell of a whole lot. It was a brand new car compared to my 90 Z. I loved the navigation system in it. It was much easier to get in and out of because of the seats. I expected it to be so much faster than my Z that I was afraid it would tarnish my image of my Z. That wasn't the case though. Besides the only reason I'd even buy another corvette would be if it was another Zr-1 or a big block classic vette. Otherwise this is going to be the next toy I pursue.
Ferrari Testarossa 512TR. I think this would look great parked next to the Z in my garage.:mrgreen:

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn63/keeno1970/800px-Ferrari_Testarossa_-_001.jpg

Rick that is my all time favoriteFerarri...and the most heavily produced model...someone correct me if I am wrong...not just the 512 but all Testarossa models. Anyway, the price just might get low enough for one of us to snag one someday. I've never seen one with that angle...the rear wheels tuck in a bit too far I think. Maybe a bit more rubber would make it better.

There is one on ebay in Dallas with 16K miles...Buy It Now for 88 grand. Hmmm...

[WB9MCW]

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p110/HAMMERHATE/SIXGENERATIONSOFCORVETTE-MYZR-1.jpg

THIS IS ALL I WANT TO BE A HAPPY CAMPER

[flyin ryan]

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p110/HAMMERHATE/SIXGENERATIONSOFCORVETTE-MYZR-1.jpg



THIS IS ALL I WANT TO BE A HAPPY CAMPER

Your easy to please :mrgreen:

[phrogs]

Hey John,

Are you having issues with Bosch? May I ask what it is?


Well, Heres what I did, I replaced all the injectors with new brass ones, replaced all my fuel lines, replaced the fuel pump, accumulator, fuel filter, rebuild the fuel manifold, rebuilt the WUR.

Got it all back together and have it running pretty good but I think I need it tuned and Ill be in business.

[rhipsher]

Rick that is my all time favoriteFerarri...and the most heavily produced model...someone correct me if I am wrong...not just the 512 but all Testarossa models. Anyway, the price just might get low enough for one of us to snag one someday. I've never seen one with that angle...the rear wheels tuck in a bit too far I think. Maybe a bit more rubber would make it better.

There is one on ebay in Dallas with 16K miles...Buy It Now for 88 grand. Hmmm... I don't know a damn thing about a Testarossa. But it's so pretty (as Mohammed Ali use to say. In his case I'm so pretty. I guess when I get one I'll have to join a Ferarri forum and learn right. Even though the Z06 has everything you could want and if I had to choose between the two I'd always go for the exotic. Even when I take the Z to coffee and cars where there are way more exotic cars than my ZR-1 is such as the Ferarri's and Lambos even they sit up and take notice. And with my window down I always hear somebody say "Wow! A ZR-1. I park it. Pop the hood and walk into Star Bucks for a quad shot expresso and by the time I make my way back to the car the Ferarri and Lambo guy's are huttled around the Z looking it over and asking me all kinds of questions about it. Most of the Ferarri and Lambo guys are older gentlemen and remember when it first came out. And in the back of my mind I'm thinking why would these guys even care about this C4 ZR-1 when their cars are way more exotic and cost $200k-$400k? But for some reason they do.:dontknow:

[Kb7tif]

My 2cents says GM destroyed the rear end of the corvette c5. c6 is better but for me there would have to be a large performance upgrade to make up for the way they look. Sorry. 427 would be the only way id do it abd it will be a while before they are in "my range"
:mrgreen:

[WB9MCW]

And in the back of my mind I'm thinking why would these guys even care about this C4 ZR-1 when their cars are way more exotic and cost $200k-$400k? But for some reason they do.

They remember this TIME Mag Article

From Time Magazine

Business

The Pussycat That Roars
A 380-horse, $50,000 Corvette dazzles the motor critics

May 8, 1989

Although Detroit's automakers have designed and built every type of car imaginable in the past 90 years, they have never produced a world-class sports car
that could match a Porsche or a Ferrari. That may be changing. General Motors
will roll out its $50,000 Corvette ZR1 in September, and the automotive trade press is already gushing about the car with the sort of enthusiasm it usually reserves for $150,000 European exotics. "We have finally driven the ZR1 Corvette," raves Automobile magazine. "And without equivocation we can pronounce it the fastest and finest high- performance automobile America has ever produced. "It is certainly fast. The car has a top speed of 180 m.p.h. and can go from 0 to 60 m.p.h. in a blistering 4.2 sec., making it the fastest factory-built car in the world. Moreover, the Corvette more than holds its own in road- hugging tests against the $75,000 Porsche 928GT and the $180,000 Ferrari Testarossa. The soul of the new machine is a ferocious 380-h.p. V-8 engine that experts say is the most sophisticated ever built. The aluminum-alloy engine boasts 32 valves, four for each cylinder, and an innovative air-intake system that can sip oxygen from a single narrow throttle valve or suck it full blast from a wide-mouth intake, depending on how sharply the driver presses the pedal to the metal. Other high-tech bells and whistles include a slick six-speed computer-assisted manual transmission and a suspension system that automatically adjusts shock absorbers to the speed of the car. The bad news for parking-lot jockeys dreaming about taking the new Vette for a joyride is that the car comes equipped with a so-called valet key feature. When the driver switches it on before leaving his prize in an attendant's hands, half the engine's valves shut down. That turns one mean machine into a pussycat. Anyone wishing to buy a ZR1 anytime soon may be out of luck. Chevy plans to build only 4,000 in the 1990 model-year, and most of those have been reserved. "If you don't have an order in by now," says dealer Matthew Williams of Jack Cauley Chevrolet in West Bloomfield, Mich., "you probably won't be able to get one."


OR MAYBE THEY SAW THIS ONE OR ONE LIKE IT IN THE AUTO PRESS MAG'S


Lotus engine pushed Corvette ZR-1 into exotic company
September 12, 2004
BY DAN JEDLICKA Auto Reporter

Only one Chevrolet Corvette has been sold with a European-designed engine, which let the two-seater compete in the rarified high-performance world occupied by sports cars such as Ferrari and Lamborghini.
That Corvette was the 1990-95 ZR-1, and it's the most exotic production 'Vette ever built.
The standard Corvette was plenty fast with its conventional 245-horsepower V-8. But the ZR-1 had a custom 375-380 horsepower V-8 from Lotus -- the British sports car and world championship Grand Prix race car builder, which does work for major automakers. Both engines had a 5.7-liter displacement, but that's about all they had in common.
Why Lotus? Because Chevy had considered a turbocharged V-6, twin-turbocharged V-8 and even a non-turbocharged 600-horsepower V-8, but found them too noisy or inefficient. It needed a quiet, docile, smooth, economical engine at home in heavy traffic and on race tracks. Morever, GM bought Lotus about the time Chevy and Lotus representatives met in 1985 to initially discuss the ZR-1 engine, which took about two years to develop.
Such an engine never came cheap, so the Corvette ZR-1 was General Motors' most expensive 1990 car and its new flagship model. The ZR-1 announcement price was $58,995, but soon jumped to $64,138.
The ZR-1 got its model designation from the "ZR-1'' option package, which added $27,016-$31,683 to the standard Corvette hardtop's list price -- making it the most expensive auto option in Chevy history.
Of course, the highlight of the package was the Lotus-designed V-8; it actually was hand-assembled by Mercury Marine at its Stillwater, Okla., plant. While mostly known for boat engines, Mercury had a good reputation for precision engine building.
Buyers lined up to pay $80,000-plus to be among the first to get a ZR-1. Some dealers and private sellers were asking up to $150,000 for the ZR-1. The reasoning was that this was a sure-fire collector car. (A ZR-1 now is valued at $49,000-$55,000, with the highest price for the 1994-95 model)
About 3,000 ZR-1s were produced for 1990, or less than one per Chevy dealer.
"The ZR-1 gives you attributes of a $75,000 to $300,000 sports car," said former Corvette chief engineer Dave McLellan, who was in charge of the Corvette program.
This writer found during a test of a 1992 ZR-1 that it was the least expensive, most civilized and reliable exotic car, despite its humble Chevrolet insignia. The special V-8 whisked the car to 60 mph from a standing start in 4.3 seconds and to 100 mph in 11.5 seconds. It allowed an unmodified Corvette ZR-1 to average 173.8 mph for 5,000 miles in 1990 on a Texas track during a sanctioned run.
However, the ZR-1 still delivered an estimated 17 mpg in the city and 26 on the highway.
The Corvette ZR-1's hand-assembled 32-valve, dual-overhead-camshaft V-8 had a key-operated "valet switch". It limited horsepower to 150-200 when a ZR-1 owner handed the keys of the car to parking lot attendants or teen-age family members.
The Corvette ZR-1 got its world introduction early in 1989 at Switzerland's Geneva Motor Show and at a splashy French media launch. The overseas introductions were meant to underscore the car's world-class design. Corvette sales had been lagging, and the ZR-1 showed that GM's Corvette could compete with the world's top sports cars. The ZR-1 engine gave the Corvette an exotic car reputation it never had been able to offer.
However, the Corvette ZR-1 wasn't introduced until later in 1989 as a 1990 model. Things were held up because Chevrolet had designed a new dashboard for all 1990 Corvettes, which were introduced in the fall.
Besides the special V-8, the ZR-1 option contained such things as wider rear high-performance tires. The Corvette ZR-1 looked like a conventional Corvette to the casual observer, although it had wider rear bodywork to accommodate those bigger tires, which called for new doors, rocker panels and rear fascia.
The only other external mark was a convex tail with square tail lights in place of the standard Corvette's concave rear panel and round tail lights. There also were a pair of rectangular exhaust outlets to accompany the taillight shape.
Also standard on the ZR-1 was a thicker rear stabilizer bar and new FX3 adjustable suspension, with "Performance", "Touring" and "Sport" modes.
The special suspension -- optional for standard Corvette coupes with a manual transmission -- allowed the ZR-1 to handle better than most European exotic cars and helped make the car safe for average drivers with no high-performance driver training.
The ZR-1 came only as a coupe with a six-speed manual gearbox. After all, this was a very serious auto -- no cruiser for the open-shirt, gold-chain crowd that often bought Corvette convertibles with an automatic transmission.
Curiously, Chevrolet gave the regular 1991 Corvette the covex tail panel and square taillights previously reserved for the ZR-1, although it didn't have the ZR-1's oversized flanks and huge rear tires. All Corvettes got a new tapered lower nose, horizontal strakes instead of vertical slots in the front fenders and lower-restriction mufflers. The 1991 ZR-1 was officially rated at 375, instead of the 375-380 rating of the 1989 model -- not that anyone could tell a difference in performance.
Production problems in 1991 held down Corvette ZR-1 volume, and Chevrolet announced in 1993 that it would build only 380 ZR-1s annually.
That year, the car's horsepower jumped to 405. But about 4,800 ZR-1s had been sold, and it seemed as if most everyone who wanted the car had bought one. Also, standard Corvette horsepower had climbed to 300, which was more than enough for most 'Vette purchasers.
The Corvette ZR-1 was dropped after a final 448 copies were built for 1995. GM and Chevrolet had gotten lots of publicity with the car, and there seemed no need to keep a low-volume auto that was costly to build when GM was cutting costs to become more profitable.
By then, the Corvette ZR-1 had firmly established its reputation as being a world-class sports car.

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THE HERITAGE --THE ENGINEERING AND THE HYPE BY GM --- THAT IS THE MYSTIC OF THE LT-5 AND THE ZR-1

THIS IS STILL MY FAV ARTICLE ON THE ZR-1

ZR-1 CORVETTE - MARATHON CHAMPION OF THE CENTURY
by Robin Jenkins
Last Update: 10/24/2004

Marathon running is a brutal sport. The Greek messenger whose 26-mile-jog is commemorated by the race died of exhaustion 2500 years ago -- but only after completing his mission. Today we more often celebrate Olympic sprinters instead, forgetting that endurance is a surer mark of health and determination. Perhaps because it takes less than ten seconds to watch a sprint, those who run for hours don't as readily capture our attention. The same can be said for automobile racing -- 24-hour races are rare; 5000-mile races even more so. But, lest a true hero be forgotten in annual disputes over which new car quarter-miles the quickest, consider the undisputed marathon champion of automobile racing -- the gutsiest distance-racer ever built for the public.

Beginning in 1990 and ending with the 1995 model year, General Motors sold 6,939 Corvettes designated "ZR-1". Not to be confused with its more primitive namesake offered 20 years earlier, this ZR-1 was both luxuriously appointed and the fastest car built in America at the time -- not only in acceleration but on the highway, too. There were two features exclusive to the new ZR-1: each car came with a purpose-built, 32-valve, 4-cam, aluminum, LT-5 engine; and each was three inches wider in the rear than its sister Corvettes, in order to accommodate wider rear wheels and tires. Neither feature was obvious to the casual observer, but one of them made all the difference.

"The Heart of the Beast", as the ZR-1's LT-5 engine came to be called, was a huge departure from GM's traditional manufacturing style. It was designed in collaboration with Lotus Racing of Great Britain, and perhaps because it was hand-crafted by the women at Mercruiser Division of the Mercury Marine plant in Stillwater, Oklahoma, it was destined to become the strongest thump in "The Heartbeat of America". The last of those amazing engines was pre-built in 1993 for installation in the 1994 and '95 model year ZR-1s. Yet, despite their age, LT-5 equipped Corvettes are thus far the fastest, mass-produced, distance-racers ever to appear on the planet.

The reason for the ZR-1's uncontested dominance at marathoning is that even the least potent of the LT-5 engines (375 hp) were designed to safely propel a Corvette to 180 mph, with absolutely no modifications, and still meet all EPA emissions and fuel-economy standards. On its first attempt, a 1990 model ZR-1 broke the world's record for covering the most ground in 24-hours. It ran all day and and all night, averaging almost 176 mph, including gas stops!

With the new 24-hour World Speed Record now in the bag, the VERY SAME CAR kept lapping the same eight-mile test track in Texas, until it had set a new World Speed Record for the longest specified distance -- 5000 miles, averaging almost 174 mph! Before this same ZR-1 finally pulled off that track, it ran two victory laps at over 190 mph, and Corvette owned TEN new International and World Records.

So, beginning with the 1991 model, the ZR-1 sported a tiny decal on the driver's side of the hatch glass, attesting to Corvette's new ownership of those national and international records; and by 1993, engineers had teased another 30 horsepower out of the engine. A few ZR-1s, whose owners tweaked the LT-5 engine beyond the factory's final 405 hp rating, have documented speeds in excess of 200 mph, yet remain fully tractable for general transportation. Few cars in the world, at any price, can reach such speeds in the first place, and fewer, still, are suitable for street use.

With a roll cage, a racing seat, open exhaust, and a 48 gallon gas tank, the record-breaking Corvette was by no means a street car, but it was unquestionably a production car, using its officially specified production engine. The prospect of succeeding with that innocent combination had been so laughable at the time that the press wasn't even officially invited to watch. Nobody in over 50 years had beaten the 24-hour speed record -- even when using imaginative combinations of exotic racing engines and purpose-built chassis. How could a mere production-class Corvette succeed where unlimited had failed?

Consider that the 175-180 mph speed range easily achieved by even the early, 375 hp, ZR-1 is comparable to current race averages in today's NASCAR events, where much lighter cars use the same size engine as the Corvette (5.7 liters or 350 cubic inches). Recall how many of those highly modified, NASCAR engines fail after less than 500 miles, and then ponder how the Corvette's LT-5 engine ran at the very same speeds for the equivalent of TEN Daytona 500s -- BACK-TO-BACK! That's a level of durability unprecedented in the automotive industry, a feat which has yet to be equaled by any production car, anywhere.

So it's not only that the ZR-1 is one of the few stock cars in the world that can comfortably run 180 mph; it's the fact that this car can do so, not just for hundreds, but for THOUSANDS of miles at a time! THAT'S what's impressive. Yet in calmer moments it could deliver an amazing 28 mpg at 65 mph, while displaying world-class cornering, braking and acceleration to complement its awesome highway speed. That was enough "all-around" superiority in performance for the media to qualify the ZR-1 as "King of the Hill", world-wide, when it was introduced -- a reputation it successfully defended through the end of its production.

Certainly there were a few exotic street machines which could outrun a ZR-1, even during its hey-day -- but they could only do so for short distances. And, given the growing popularity of turbos and superchargers (the LT-5 required neither), there will likely be a much more impressive crop of sprinters wowing enthusiasts in this new century. But, the Dodge Viper excepted, from 1990 until the end of the last century, no such exotics were produced in quantities greater than a few hundred, and most of them numbered less than a handful. Even the few competitors which moved from prototype to limited-production, cost from twice to TWENTY-TIMES as much as the ZR-1's already hefty 66-thousand-dollar sticker, and still they couldn't keep up with the Corvette over long distances. The Porsche team admitted their 962 just wasn't up to it.

The sole, mass-produced, ZR-1 challenger in the 20th century was the Viper -- and despite having a much larger engine, and no concessions to refinement, it still failed to equal the Corvette's highway speed until a year after the ZR-1 was out of production. Today's 21st century Vipers, with a 150-cubic-inch-larger engine than the LT-5 "small block", will certainly exceed an aging ZR-1's 180 mph top speed. But none of those 525 hp monsters have dared attempt the Corvette's 1990 marathon run, and neither have Porsche, Ferrari, BMW, or Lamborghini. Between 1966 and 1988, Ford, Mercedes and Audi at least tried -- but they all failed.

It's only in the 21st Century that the ZR-1 has seen its decade-old world records begin to fall -- but NOT to production cars. Except for the ZR-1, no automobile available to the public has EVER performed that well. In fact, the car that the ZR-1 beat in order to set those records was a one-off, hand-built racer, powered by an aircraft engine! Its driver, whose long-standing marathon record the Corvette thumped by a whopping 15 mph, was Ab Jenkins. I know the name because it's shared by my great-great-grandfather. And, as one would logically expect, the 21st century cars that have since broken the Corvette's marathon records are also one-off prototypes, with neither their engines nor their chassis yet to see a show-room, let alone mass-production.

So it's very unlikely that the world will ever again see a production package accomplish such a feat. And even if another licensable car does someday go that fast, for that long, the odds are against its ever being mass-marketed for thousands of happy enthusiasts. The Corvette ZR-1's achievement is thus a singular and enduring benchmark -- the high point in the first century of automotive history -- certifiably the only mass-produced car that, even with gas stops, could average over 175 mph all day and all night.

The heavy, elegant, ZR-1 could not only travel coast-to-coast distances faster than most private planes can fly them, it could do so with more amenities -- six-way adjustable leather seats, Bose stereo, air-conditioning, electrically adjustable suspension, F-16-style gold-reflective windshield, and monster brakes. Besides, the Corvette offered owners sleeker lines than anything propeller-powered -- except maybe the Mercruiser race boats sharing its engine's production facility. Odd, when you ponder it, that the engines of the fastest Corvettes ever sold to the public were designed in England and built by an American boat company! That eccentricity alone gives the 1990-1995 Corvette ZR-1 a unique bloodline -- a pedigree befitting the fastest production car of its time.

After fifteen years, the world has yet to mass-produce a marathoner which has proved itself the ZR-1's equal, but we can hope. The two-generation-newer C-6 Corvette, due soon at Chevrolet dealerships, is reputed to be even faster than the ZR-1; but GM hasn't yet shown the C6 can average 175 mph for the first 5000 miles of its warranty. And even if it can, the marathon records firmly held by the Corvette ZR-1 through the turn of the last century may now, by experimental prototypes, have been pushed out of reach for any production car -- let alone a mass-marketed Chevy.

But, for one brief, shining moment, the certified "King of the Hill" could be driven out of an American showroom and onto a public highway, confidently assuring its pilot that nothing sold elsewhere at any price could match its pace and still go the distance. Were there an Olympics for cars, the indomitable ZR-1 would still be wearing gold. She done us proud.

Robin Jenkins
Olympic August, 2004
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[tomtom72]

Thanks for the reprints Bryan!!!!:thumbsup:.....yea, my fav is the one by Robin Jenkins...those write-ups make me realize just how different my Z is/was at the time from other American made cars.

IMHO, those guys "care" about our cars because they recognize good engineering and will compliment it readily. Or at least that's what I've experienced being on cruises with the people from exotic car forums. The F-car owners, M3 & 5 owners, NSX owners, lambo owners, AM owners, P-car owners, all say to me "who would have thought that GM would have made a car like this just to prove a point? And then go do the distance to time to speed runs and be successful!" Yea, they know more about those records than most of the corvette owners that I cruise with all the time!

To be honest, sometimes I'm guilty of "newer corvette envy".....:redface:
I think how much better the new ones seem versus my antique. I know one thing for sure. All my friends that own those exotics all spend a lot more $$ on maintenance than I do. Sometimes it's good to be a chevy!:mrgreen:

[jonszr1]

the special thing about our zr1s is that they were way ahead of their time and most likely there will never be another special car of this nature built again by gm . i dont care if our prices our in the toilet . the enjoyment of caretaking 2 of these special cars i love . i have 2 so i can allways have one to drive . i could care less if i ever own a car other than the zr1 . to me its the cats meow

[JThomas]

I would prefer the Z06 because ergonomically, it fits me better, but I like the ZR-1 because of the special place in Corvette history it has. IMHO, the ZR-1 put the Corvette on the performance map to compete with the europeans. Honestly, I think the ZR-1 developments lead us to the Z06, that's why I own them both! :thumbsup:

They both are a blast to drive also.

[WB9MCW]

WELL IF I CAN'T HAVE THIS SIX PACK
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p110/HAMMERHATE/SIXGENERATIONSOFCORVETTE-MYZR-1.jpg

I WOULD STILL BE HAPPY WITH THIS 4 PACK

MEET THE BLACK Z's
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p110/HAMMERHATE/THEBLACKZs.jpg

[todesengel]

I am truly blessed, and can have pretty much any toy that I want (like a lot of us here), but I CHOSE (or rather the ZR-1 chose me). I drove a lot of cars, and kept going back, and forth, till my wife finally bought the one I kept talking about, my black 1990 zr-1. This is the same wife who had a gt2 sitting in the driveway for me 4 years ago when I got home because I wouldn't shut up about them.

The answer is NO, I may add another vette after owning this one, but you can bet your sweet @#$ it will be ANOTHER zr-1, and the current one will not be going anywhere.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/chaosrob/DSC_0527.jpg

Look at that sexy girl. How could I give up on her after waiting 20 YEARS to own it?

The latest and greatest is a game for another, I will drive what I like, enjoy what I drive, and be who I am.

[Z51JEFF]

initially when I answered this question it was a no brainer for me but I am liking the C6 Z06 more and more,not enough to not have a ZR-1 though.Now a nice Midyear Coupe,thats my next Corvette hands down.67 small block,Ralleys,4-speed L-79 Marlboro Maroon,tan leather.......................

[Paul Workman]

initially when I answered this question it was a no brainer for me but I am liking the C6 Z06 more and more,not enough to not have a ZR-1 though.Now a nice Midyear Coupe,thats my next Corvette hands down.67 small block,Ralleys,4-speed L-79 Marlboro Maroon,tan leather.......................

Pete and I were talking about that a couple weeks ago too. I wouldn't get rid of the ZR-1 to do it, but I'd love to have a C6 Z06 one day.

P.

[cward]

WELL IF I CAN'T HAVE THIS SIX PACK

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p110/HAMMERHATE/SIXGENERATIONSOFCORVETTE-MYZR-1.jpg

I WOULD STILL BE HAPPY WITH THIS 4 PACK

MEET THE BLACK Z's
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p110/HAMMERHATE/THEBLACKZs.jpg



Well, you might get most of those cars but I think to get Bob's 385 you would have to pry it loose from his cold dead fingers. :-D

Curtis

[1989ZR1#74]

Time travel welcome to the year 2010 Z06 Thread... I would not have the same passion for a new(er) z06. I have a 2010 Camaro SS and love it but it I tend to treat it like a "car". I think I would do the same for the Z06, maybe in 20 years! I'll post an update to this thread then.

[WB9MCW]

Well, you might get most of those cars but I think to get Bob's 385 you would have to pry it loose from his cold dead fingers.

No doubt about that Curtis --- The same for getting Jerry to depart with his as well.

The point was if we had all the $$$ for others generations and models one would no doubt be spending $$ on the mod front for the ZR-1.

A Mr. H. 415 with a TP hood and some nice wheels and maybe coil overs, exhaust and a few other goodies (415 gear and U-joint upgrades) and we might have a "Viper Thumper" of our own that even Bob and Jerry would approve of.:thumbsup::cheers:

[phrogs]

I wouldn't buy a new Z06 but Id love to get a nice used 06 model in that lemans blue.

That baby blue one they have now is not a good looking paint in my opinion its a chicks color.

[Nick]

I loved my ZR-1, and I really like my Z06.
Someday, I will have another ZR-1.
But for now, maybe some of you guys who are considering a Z06 just need a picture or two to help you make a decision. :mrgreen:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/skedadl/IMG_0013-3.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/skedadl/user192385_pic25439_1247646596.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/skedadl/IMG_0055.jpg

[phrogs]

theres something in the way of the Z06 I can't see it clearly to make up my mind....





I loved my ZR-1, and I really like my Z06.
Someday, I will have another ZR-1.
But for now, maybe some of you guys who are considering a Z06 just need a picture or two to help you make a decision. :mrgreen:

[1989ZR1#74]

That towel is awesome... Is it 100% cotton?

[secondchance]

Perhaps as well as my 94 ZR-1, not as a replacement.
There is something truly special about the Z as far as I am concerned.:cheers:

[-=Jeff=-]

Does she come with the Z06?


I would like A C6 Z06, but I would also want a removable targa top with the Z06..

[bdw18_123]

I don't know a damn thing about a Testarossa. But it's so pretty (as Mohammed Ali use to say. In his case I'm so pretty. I guess when I get one I'll have to join a Ferarri forum and learn right. Even though the Z06 has everything you could want and if I had to choose between the two I'd always go for the exotic. Even when I take the Z to coffee and cars where there are way more exotic cars than my ZR-1 is such as the Ferarri's and Lambos even they sit up and take notice. And with my window down I always hear somebody say "Wow! A ZR-1. I park it. Pop the hood and walk into Star Bucks for a quad shot expresso and by the time I make my way back to the car the Ferarri and Lambo guy's are huttled around the Z looking it over and asking me all kinds of questions about it. Most of the Ferarri and Lambo guys are older gentlemen and remember when it first came out. And in the back of my mind I'm thinking why would these guys even care about this C4 ZR-1 when their cars are way more exotic and cost $200k-$400k? But for some reason they do.:dontknow:

Stories like this are one of the reasons I love the C4 ZR-1. Shows that it is really a special car if people that own $400K cars are impressed by/interested in a $15K-30K, 20 year old American car.

"ZR-1 CORVETTE - MARATHON CHAMPION OF THE CENTURY
by Robin Jenkins
Last Update: 10/24/2004

... Consider that the 175-180 mph speed range easily achieved by even the early, 375 hp, ZR-1 is comparable to current race averages in today's NASCAR events, where much lighter cars use the same size engine as the Corvette (5.7 liters or 350 cubic inches). Recall how many of those highly modified, NASCAR engines fail after less than 500 miles, and then ponder how the Corvette's LT-5 engine ran at the very same speeds for the equivalent of TEN Daytona 500s -- BACK-TO-BACK! That's a level of durability unprecedented in the automotive industry, a feat which has yet to be equaled by any production car, anywhere.
..."

That is an awesome article, thanks for posting that WB9MCW! :thumbsup:

Simply astounding facts to wrap your brain around! Just amazing that the LT5's we have in our Z's right now could potentially go out and do that kind of endurance run right now (as long as they are running correctly, lol)! After I read things like that, it's sometimes hard to for me to believe that I have one of those cars sitting in my garage right now!

The C4 ZR-1 is a special car with an awesome Brotherhood to go along with it, which is why I will probably always have a ZR-1.

And I haven't even driven the thing yet!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

[Z51JEFF]

I loved my ZR-1, and I really like my Z06.
Someday, I will have another ZR-1.
But for now, maybe some of you guys who are considering a Z06 just need a picture or two to help you make a decision. :mrgreen:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/skedadl/IMG_0013-3.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/skedadl/user192385_pic25439_1247646596.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/skedadl/IMG_0055.jpg

Your going to have to try a little harder than that.

[Z51JEFF]

I totally agree with Ryan. I test drove a 2008 atomic orange 505 Z06. It was faster but not by a hell of a whole lot. It was a brand new car compared to my 90 Z. I loved the navigation system in it. It was much easier to get in and out of because of the seats. I expected it to be so much faster than my Z that I was afraid it would tarnish my image of my Z. That wasn't the case though. Besides the only reason I'd even buy another corvette would be if it was another Zr-1 or a big block classic vette. Otherwise this is going to be the next toy I pursue.
Ferrari Testarossa 512TR. I think this would look great parked next to the Z in my garage.:mrgreen:

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn63/keeno1970/800px-Ferrari_Testarossa_-_001.jpg

Id take a Tr in Black but my favorite Ferrari is in the back ground,246 Dino.YES ITS A FERRARI DAMMIT!

[phrogs]

Id take a Tr in Black but my favorite Ferrari is in the back ground,246 Dino.YES ITS A FERRARI DAMMIT!


Not to long ago the dinos were pretty cheap now they are insaine! should have bought one when I had the chance.

[rudolph schenker]

I have driven a C6 Zo6, it's a great car. It will probably be the next car I buy. But the Z stays, it's part of the family. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/rschenker/100_1103.jpg

My supercharged 04 coupe sounds meaner and is faster the any stock C6 Zo6! :-D And the top comes off too!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/rschenker/DSC02719.jpg

[flyin ryan]

I have driven a C6 Zo6, it's a great car. It will probably be the next car I buy. But the Z stays, it's part of the family. :)

Cool :thumbsup: