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LGAFF
06-20-2009, 04:50 PM
Never thought I would say that, How many people would put their lives on the line for political justice(I know our troops do)...wondering if we would have the stomach for the same, when we see politicians every day taking kick backs, stealing, etc......we turn a blind eye and just vote them all back into office.


Hmmmmmmmm

Jeffvette
06-20-2009, 04:52 PM
Never thought I would say that, How many people would put their lives on the line for political justice(I know our troops do)...wondering if we would have the stomach for the same, when we see politicians every day taking kick backs, stealing, etc......we turn a blind eye and just vote them all back into office.

Not even going to touch this one. :hello:

LGAFF
06-20-2009, 04:55 PM
Granted the next guy may be just as crazy, but seeing Ahmadinejad catching this amount of $hit is great

WB9MCW
06-21-2009, 12:50 PM
Americans are sheeple and afraid to take a stand for real change with our lawyer politicians.

We need term limits to fix the real problem and the elimination of special interest groups and PAC's to level the playing field. The lobbying crap is the real problem and where the true problem is with our current system deviation from what the real founders designed.

Plus the fact the Federal power is way out of control -- I present the following blog for thought---

The Constitution is still the supreme law of the land

by Richard Reeb

"We must never forget it is a Constitution we are expounding"- Chief Justice John Marshall

Last week I discussed the controversy over the nomination of Sonia Sotomayor as Associate Justice of the United States Supreme Court, focusing on the standard for evaluating nominees. This week I will examine our Constitution, the basis for that standard.

Ours is a limited constitution, one that delegates powers to a federal government and denies certain powers to state governments which they had exercised to the detriment of our prosperity. It is necessary to recall these circumstances which originally gave rise to the Constitution in order to appreciate its authority and legitimacy today.

The Constitution did not come into being in a vacuum. What we now call the founding generation could not be sure that their nation would survive. Partly because of a suspicion of distant centralized authority and partly because of an attachment to their states, many Americans were far from assenting to a national government.

The Continental Congress (1774-81) and the Articles of Confederation (1781-89) were based on the good faith of the colonies until Independence (1776), and then the states which formed in that fragile union. Nothing of consequence could be accomplished without the approval of nine of the 13 states, and no independent and powerful national legislative, executive or judicial branches existed.

The major domestic threat to our nation was faction. The comparatively small size of the states which rendered them responsive to the wishes of their constituents also made them vulnerable to domination by majority factions determined to assert their rights but loathe to accept their responsibilities.

In the midst of a depression caused by the end of wartime production and the lack of access to continental and foreign markets, many Americans were broke and in debt. The war had been financed by an almost worthless Continental currency, made worse by the states' issuance of paper money as well. As debtors and their allies soon outnumbered their creditors, state after state passed laws which, in one way or another, repudiated debts.

Such legislative acts constituted more than an attack on the property rights of one class of people by another, as wrong as that was. They also sent a signal to nations from whom we borrowed money to finance the War that those debts were susceptible to repudiation too. After all, the same factions that controlled state governments dominated the weak Confederation Congress.

Reverence for the Constitution and the laws was not necessarily in the hearts of many of our ancestors at their moment of great crisis. How to counter this? As vital to the defense of our rights as a strong legislative and executive branch are, the courts have more immediate impact than either on the lives of our people. It is there that contracts are upheld and private property protected.

Thus, the Constitution, in Article III, provides for a supreme court, and "inferior courts" established by Congress, the judges of which hold their offices "during good behavior." When combined with Article VI, which declares the Constitution, federal laws and treaties to be "the supreme law of the land," binding every state judge, we gained a truly national judicial branch. This was soon to be the chief restraint on the states which, at that time, were coining or printing money, and passing bills of attainder, ex post facto laws, and "laws impairing the obligation of contracts."

It would be strange for the Constitution to permit at the federal level what had been curbed at the state level. Thus, the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution forbids the federal government from taking private property for public use without just compensation.

But since New Deal days, Congress has passed laws which have encroached on rather than merely regulated our trade and commerce. In other words, it has been doing what the states long ago had been restrained from doing by our Constitution. And just as it once took state judges of uncommon fortitude to resist what James Madison denounced as the states’ "rage for paper money, for an abolition of debts, for an equal division of property, or for any other improper or wicked project," so now it requires federal judges of equal fortitude to resist that same impulse in Congress.

For as Alexander Hamilton put it so forcefully, we must turn for the defense of our property and other rights to "courts of justice, whose duty it must be to declare all acts contrary to the manifest tenor of the Constitution void."

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by John 2000 6-8-09

the administration handling of the Chrysler was so egregious that the Supreme Court had to place a 'stay' on the proceedings.

This action actually gives me a sense of hope. Just maybe, the last resort will possibly do its job ...

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June 8th, 2009 by rom12921

Since overreaching government power is accepted by American society, it doesn't occur to anyone that the Constitution is being violated. It's just business as usual.

On the rare occaison a challenge is presented, the Supreme Court tells us the "interpretation" of the document, thereby rendering the original meaning and intent subject to modern societal interpretation which , like I wrote, accepts governmental power.

So is it it the law of the land?

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So the real ? is will the supreme court uphold the constitution as written and protect our private property laws?

Indiana Treasurer Richard Mourdock, who led the cause of the pension funds, expressed disappointment with the decision and said options seem limited for opponents of the sale. "Obviously, the Supreme Court of the land is the supreme court of the land," Mourdock said. "The United States government has, I continue to believe, acted egregiously by taking away the traditional rights held by secured creditors."

IMO the court has spoken already they will allow this President steal away our property for the "good of the Nation"

We have entered a new era of Federalism :thumbsdo:

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The anti-federalist party, which included powerful figures such as Thomas Jefferson. The anti-federalists mainly believed that:

a) The Legislative had too much power (mainly because of the Necessary and Proper Clause) and that they were unchecked.

b) The Executive branch had too much power, and that there was no check on him. A dictator would arise.

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All hail the new self-anointed one --- The Great New King Obama and his cronies. :worship:

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Smart free thinking entrepreneurs are anti-federalists -- no doubt I am one and think that we are in big trouble in the good olde USA now!!! :happy1:

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BTW I think is great the Iranian people are out to destroy the rule there of the supreme religious leaders ---Good luck for freedom to IRAN

Jefferson quotes for thought >>

When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe . Thomas Jefferson <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasjeff109181.html>

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasjeff122881.html>

It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.
Thomas Jefferson <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasjeff136389.html>

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. Thomas Jefferson <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasjeff136410..html>

My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. Thomas Jefferson <http://www..brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasjeff157220.html>

No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasjeff125076..html>

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. Thomas Jefferson <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasjeff100991.html>

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. Thomas Jefferson <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasjeff109180.html>

To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. Thomas Jefferson <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasjeff157246.html>

'I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.' Thomas Jefferson said in 1802: