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stedi
05-08-2009, 05:41 PM
Original starter is discontinued by GM up here in Canada. My question is can a rebuilt/jobber do the job. I've heard some people say that since the started is placed mid-engine and is exposed to high heat, rebuilt starters could be problematic. Any comments or suggestions?
Thanks,
Steve
GOLDCYLON
05-08-2009, 05:50 PM
Well Ive been running my $79 rebuilt starter off Ebay for 2.5 years now in Arizona daily. So I have to say it depends on the feedback rating of the rebuilder.
-=Jeff=-
05-08-2009, 07:15 PM
is it the same seller on ebay now?
GOLDCYLON
05-08-2009, 07:38 PM
Grand yes
WVZR-1
05-08-2009, 10:45 PM
Original starter is discontinued by GM up here in Canada. My question is can a rebuilt/jobber do the job. I've heard some people say that since the started is placed mid-engine and is exposed to high heat, rebuilt starters could be problematic. Any comments or suggestions?
Thanks,
Steve
Your starter can be "repaired" on "the bench" by any competent "starter/alternator" facility. Rebuilt "implies" many things that sometimes don't happen! If yours is a "hot start" solution or an attempt at a repair to eliminate a "hot start" the "solenoid contacts" in the Nippondenso starter is is it's generally considered "weak point"! Not just the LT5 application but most Nippondenso applications. A more substantial "solenoid contact" package is a $10-part (in quanity substantially less). That package and the replacement of the "plunger" maybe another $10 should accomplish "the fix"!!
I'd ask a compentent local shop to see if they agree! The "contact, brushes and a plunger" maybe less than $50 on "the bench" and no shipping.
I've spoken to a couple local "rebuilders" and they feel the same regarding the Nippendenso product. Those parts and 12V at the starter and it "will" crank!! 12V nothing less!!
*I didn't see the other "no start" thread until after I'd commented here! The contacts, plunger, brushes and 12V is "the fix"!! This isn't a "fix" for all "no starts" but a good fix for a "hot no start"!!
-=Jeff=-
05-08-2009, 10:55 PM
Your starter can be "repaired" on "the bench" by any competent "starter/alternator" facility. Rebuilt "implies" many things that sometimes don't happen! If yours is a "hot start" solution or an attempt at a repair to eliminate a "hot start" the "solenoid contacts" in the Nippondenso starter is is it's generally considered "weak point"! Not just the LT5 application but most Nippondenso applications. A more substantial "solenoid contact" package is a $10-part (in quanity substantially less). That package and the replacement of the "plunger" maybe another $10 should accomplish "the fix"!!
I'd ask a compentent local shop to see if they agree! The "contact, brushes and a plunger" maybe less than $50 on "the bench" and no shipping.
I've spoken to a couple local "rebuilders" and they feel the same regarding the Nippendenso product. Those parts and 12V at the starter and it "will" crank!! 12V nothing less!!
*I didn't see the other "no start" thread until after I'd commented here! The contacts, plunger, brushes and 12V is "the fix"!! This isn't a "fix" for all "no starts" but a good fix for a "hot no start"!!
Thanks for that info.. I will order a solenoid kit for my car then
WVZR-1
05-08-2009, 11:15 PM
Thanks for that info.. I will order a solenoid kit for my car then
I'd visit a "local builder" for the parts. They'll use and have the "heavy duty" parts. Here's a link to a "typical Nippendenso" build!!
http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html
Here's a "small parts list"! for the 1998585 LT5 starter! A "local builder" can ID from this information. Click on the part# for image!
http://www.wai-wetherill.com/products/sresult1bom.cfm?ManufName=DELCO&item=1998585
You can click on "vehicle look-up" on that page to access complete information for "most" electrical including our alternators. I didn't include a direct link because there are "two applications" I believe '90 and '91+! Take a look!!
jonszr1
05-09-2009, 01:27 AM
napa also sells a great rebuild had one in my blk zr1 for 4 yrs
flyin ryan
05-09-2009, 02:36 AM
You should be able to get it rebuilt locally no problem.
stedi
05-09-2009, 07:13 PM
I've spoken to a couple local "rebuilders" and they feel the same regarding the Nippendenso product. Those parts and 12V at the starter and it "will" crank!! 12V nothing less!!
Does that mean that if starter doesn't get 12V or more it will not even turn? My problem is that sometimes it turns, sometimes it doesn't. Doesn't matter if hot or cold, problem is sporadic. What is Nippendenso - the Solenoid?
Steve
WVZR-1
05-10-2009, 09:19 AM
Steve,
No that doesn't mean it "won't" crank but the Nippendenso starter really likes to see 12V. What I meant is with good cables, good connections and a battery that is at or near 100% charge it (the starter) should certainly operate.
Nippendenso is the "manufacturer" of the starter assembly.
Since the starter isn't an "easy/quick" install I believe I'd start first at the battery and work my way toward the starter to confirm the "entire" starter circuit is 100%.
You don't mention miles?
If your battery and starter circuit are 100% maybe you really do need a "repair/rebuild". I'd do it "local" though! What you might pay in shipping from a US vendor should nearly cover a repair if it's minor (contacts, brushes, plunger etc). There's nothing "special" regarding the build of the starter. The rebuild/repair facility "will have" the parts for the repair! A one day repair easy for the shop!
stedi
05-11-2009, 11:00 PM
Thanks for all the help.
My car has ±60 000 miles. Battery is brand new energizer. I'll perform a few tests to try to pinpoint problem and will post updates. I have to do my injectors soon so I have to pull the plenum anyway, might as well send the starter out to get checked.
Steve
VetteMed
05-11-2009, 11:34 PM
Good info in this thread. :cool: Glad this came up before I need it!
bldavis11
05-12-2009, 10:40 PM
Nothing to do with starters... I've had enough ""'s though!
-=Jeff=-
05-13-2009, 12:47 AM
rebuilt my Starter Solenoid tonight..
Will try it out tomorrow as it got late here
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