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Paul Workman
04-25-2009, 07:41 AM
I'm hoping to expand the ranks of the "FBI" (Fast Boyz of Illinoiz) soon by completing the porting project this w/e and put 'er back together.

A new Marc H chip, tuned for an additional 50+ hp, NO secondary throttle plates or the stuff to run 'em, 36mm tapered waaaay down the throat of the heads :blahblah::blahblah:

This is my first porting job of this magnitude. Gotta tell ya...I approach "the moment of truth" with a good deal of anxiety. Will the dreaded "SES" light come on...or not?

Drum-roll later this w/e. Once past the start-up, then on to install the headers and new exhaust just waiting patiently! (Can ya tell I'm gettin excited?? WooHoo!:dancing)

P.

tomtom72
04-25-2009, 08:33 AM
:thumbsup: Paul good luck with the grand opening!

May all your DIC lights come on and go out promptly, except for the FULL POWER one!

:cheers:

Jagdpanzer
04-25-2009, 08:58 AM
Hey Paul, can you post some pics of your finished porting work?
And good luck with the reassembly and start up.

Paul Workman
04-25-2009, 09:33 AM
Hey Paul, can you post some pics of your finished porting work?
And good luck with the reassembly and start up.

Yes on the pix (later). To those like Pete and Jeffvette, et al, I know I must sound pretty juvenile - to them "not a big deal". I guess it's kinda like sex for the first time...I can't wait, but have...worries about how well it will go!:mrgreen::sign10: Those that pay someone else to do the porting...would just not understand; kinda like reading about it opposed to being there, I recon. No matter what, I'm having fun!;)

More later...

P.

xlr8nflorida
04-25-2009, 09:37 AM
Marc's chip gives an extra 50hp?

Paul Workman
04-25-2009, 11:56 AM
Marc's chip gives an extra 50hp?

Yes, but only IN CONJUNCTION with top-end porting and LT headers and low impedance exhaust. As always, air fuel and spark (timing) are the key to hp. Without moving the air (in and then out) there is only so much a "chip" can do on an engine that is already of the "high performance" variety to begin with.;)

What this particular chip is supposed to do is:


Increase timing a bit - requiring 93 octane "forever"
Anti-backfire for headers
Bring on the fans (x2) at around 190ºF
Set to operate the secondaries above 1% throttle (secondaries on allatime!)
Add fuel to accommodate the added in/out flow
Modify the knock retard program
Reduce that factory 2000 rpm idle habit our 90 LT5s come with
Optimize performance to peak at higher (than 160ºF) operating temperatures.

Looking forward to all these features!

P.

Pete
04-25-2009, 12:00 PM
A new Marc H chip, tuned for an additional 50+ hp,
P.


WOW i gotta get me one of those 50 hp chips.lol

I think you mean 50 hp gain with all your mods.

Paul i would love to be there when you start her and first drive just to see the look on your face,ask your wife to be ready with camera.

After header/exhaust you should be around 400rwhp can you say 11's

Pete

Paul Workman
04-25-2009, 01:27 PM
WOW i gotta get me one of those 50 hp chips.lol

I think you mean 50 hp gain with all your mods.

Yep...Zackly what I meant: 50 WITH all the porting/exhaust mods.;)

Paul i would love to be there when you start her and first drive just to see the look on your face,ask your wife to be ready with camera.

After header/exhaust you should be around 400rwhp can you say 11's

Pete

Thanks for that "can you say 11's"...I can only hope!:dancing

P.

xlr8nflorida
04-25-2009, 01:45 PM
Yes, but only IN CONJUNCTION with top-end porting and LT headers and low impedance exhaust. As always, air fuel and spark (timing) are the key to hp. Without moving the air (in and then out) there is only so much a "chip" can do on an engine that is already of the "high performance" variety to begin with.;)

What this particular chip is supposed to do is:


Increase timing a bit - requiring 93 octane "forever"
Anti-backfire for headers
Bring on the fans (x2) at around 190ºF
Set to operate the secondaries above 1% throttle (secondaries on allatime!)
Add fuel to accommodate the added in/out flow
Modify the knock retard program
Reduce that factory 2000 rpm idle habit our 90 LT5s come with
Optimize performance to peak at higher (than 160ºF) operating temperatures.

Looking forward to all these features!

P.

Thats what I thought - otherwise I was going update my chip again :)
You won't believe the difference in the car!

Zr1 Destroyer
04-25-2009, 04:30 PM
Elevens? Are the heads ported aswell?

Pete
04-26-2009, 12:57 AM
Paul,sorry i missed your call earlier today.

Here is the info for the secondary freeze plugs.

Dorman # 555-108

Pete

xlr8nflorida
04-26-2009, 09:31 AM
Elevens? Are the heads ported aswell?

I'm pretty sure you can run 11's without the heads ported especially if you are running slicks. I know someone who ran 11.88.

Paul Workman
04-26-2009, 11:34 AM
The IHs are were the most difficult (for me) in terms of material removed and time. Here you can see the IH runnner, all 36+mm (after some sanding with the drum). BIG ain't they! The secondary bosses are but minimal blips with (per Locobob's suggestion) some shaping around them to ease air flow. Couple of pointers: There is a thin angle spot in the casting near a couple of the hold-down bolt bosses. Be careful around them. And, be careful when removing the primary boss (90-92s). The O-ring at the top of the boss extends into the casting toward the area you will be grinding at. You don't want to expose that gasket, if possible. Instead, ease a bit more off the top to so the ball gauge will go over it. Besides, you'll end up straightening out the runner a little more, and that is a good thing.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x220/6PPC_bucket/tech%20files/IH3Large.jpg

Tho you cannot see it in the photo, the bosses are thinned out quite a bit; to almost a sharp edge. There are a couple bosses where the secondary boss lip was nicked and results in exposing some of the O ring seal. However, the SOP "tip" from Marc H is to put a washer under the fuel rail tie-down points. This lifts the injectors just enough sometimes and avoids welding and re-shaping - it did in my two cases.:thumbsup:

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x220/6PPC_bucket/tech%20files/IH4Large.jpg

Onto the heads... A plastic shower curtain and masking tap and some heavy duty shop paper towels (stuffed into the holes and packed firmly in) seals off the bottom of the runner.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x220/6PPC_bucket/tech%20files/IH5Large.jpg

Continued on the next post

Paul Workman
04-26-2009, 12:15 PM
The IHs were bolted on and the heads were scribed to guide the cutting. In most cases the cutting was more on one side than than simply opening up the existing holes. I found the metal in the heads (as others warned me) cuts rather quickly, compared to the IHs, for example. No time to get rambunctious! You can see the tracks of the bur as I "corkscrewed" it down the bore. I found it especially helpful to have my second die grinder tooled up with the sanding roll. This way I could do a quick smoothing before taking a measurement. The sanding roll very quickly straightens out any ridges left by the bur in the heads (especially)

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x220/6PPC_bucket/tech%20files/IH6Large.jpg

This is one of Pete's balls...The 35mm one to be exact. The taper will need to be elongated a bit more - allowing the ball to enter another 1/8" or so. Then I can open the top of the bore to seat the 36mm ball, and then straightening the walls for a nice straight taper. (The steel ball gauges are held by one of those $1 telescoping magnet retrieval tools)

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x220/6PPC_bucket/tech%20files/IH7Large.jpg

After the roll sander has straightened the tapered bore, a flap wheel cleans up any minor nicks. This happens to be a secondary port - note the hole for the throttle plate shaft.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x220/6PPC_bucket/tech%20files/IH9Large.jpg

Getting the plugs out of the bore w/o letting any filings or grinding material fall into the cylinder is the tricky part for an "on the car" head matching chore. I found using 2-3 plugs made of 1/2 sheet of those heavy blue paper shop towels worked good. Cloth rag plugs tend to pop out of place when they sometimes get snagged by the bur (I found). But, paper does not get caught by the bur so much. And having 2 or more plugs (I found out) is an important safety device should a plug above get loosened and allow some material to fall down. (I would suggest experimenting on those cylinders where the valve is shut tight, just in case the technique is not fully developed...don't ask!:rolleyes:)

Regarding the use of the paper plugs, I found the paper plugs stay put much better so that I was able to get the nozzle of the vacuum cleaner right down on top of the plug. This removed 95% of the debris. Then I could pull the plug (soaked in WD40, BTW) out, wiping the sides of the bore at the same time. Then repeat for the second (and third) plug and "all was well". However, if there is an oops!, I found masking tape wrapped sticky side out on the tip of a screwdriver worked very well at grabbing the odd sliver(s) that got by the plugs. (The same trick using a coat hanger wire even snagged a couple slivers resting on the top of a piston in a cylinder where the valve was open.)

I'm sure this is "old hat" to the real experts (this being my first an expert does not make!), but since you are "grinding" too, I'm happy to show you where some of my "bread crumbs" are!:thumbsup:

Good luck with your project! As for those that are intimidated by the prospect of porting...you should be! But, once you get it, the water is fine!

P.