How bad is it at GM

[Jeffvette]

This is an email I received from a friend at GM regarding the sale of some of the heritage collection at Barret Jackson. I know we have a thread going on about the Snake Skinner, but this is a complete list of what is currently going to be sold. The list is pretty damn scary.

Here is the email.

To: Camaro/Firebird2008@gm.com
Subject: GM Heritage Collection Sale...........
Scott Settlemire
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:55:08 -0500


Good afternoon, Camaro Comrades, Firebird Friends, and Corvette Cousins............

As you may know, the GM Heritage Collection numbers in the many hundreds of cars and trucks - from 'first builts' and 'last builts' to one-off show cars to SEMA show cars.

The Decision has been made to sell off select vehicles. (Indeed, a sad day for some of us......)

There's a little of everything -- from the Legendary Buick Blackhawk -- to (are you sitting down?) a COUPLE of 1989 Corvette ZR1s -- the Jon Moss built Track-dominating Black 572 ZL1 -- A C5 Alpha and a C5 Beta -- The Tiger Shark -- the LT5 Camaro -- a 1904 Olds Touring -- several GTOS -- both old and new -- a couple of 1970 muscle cars -- a mid nineties "510" Impala SS -- and many, many pace cars and trucks.

This may be the time to break open the piggy bank.................

PLEASE NOTE:

>This is a preliminary list -- it is very likely subject to change -

>Barrett-Jackson will, in the coming week or two, put out pictures of each of these cars on their website.

>This is the Scottsdale, AZ auction -- January 13-19, 2009.

>Please feel free to share with your club members and friends



Model
1955 Buick Century
Bolero
2001 Blackhawk
G6 Rolex Pace
2007 Corvette Indy Pace/copper
2008 Corvette Indy Pace/black
1918 Cadillac
1995 Riveria Convertible
1993 Allante Pace car
1996 Presidential Limo
1998 Popemobile
1999 Eldorod
Indy Pennzoil IRL #4 (yellow)
Indy Pennzoil Panther Racing (yellow)
2003 EXT - M
2004 CTS Super V
2004 SRX Hot Wheels
2004 SRX SEMA
2005 STS MCE Integration
2006 DTS Appearance Pkg
2007 Escalade Limo
2007 Escalade SEMA
2008 CTS Sport
LMP #8
1925 Chevrolet House Car (Blue/Black)
1948 Chevy I-5 Vortech
1960 Impala
1972 Impala
2004 M/C Rock&Roll Pace (blue/yellow)
1987 Chevrolet Sprint Turbo Convertible
1989 Corvette DR-1
1989 Corvette Snake Skinner
1989 Corvette Splash
1989 Corvette ZR-1
1989 Corvette ZR-1 (Dark Red)
1989 Corvette ZR-2 Big Doggie
1989 Tracker Boom Box
1989 Zonker
1990 Corvette Right Hand Steer
1990 Corvette ZR-1 Active
1991 Caprice Classic
1991 Corvette Convertible
1991 Syclone PPG Pace
1991 Tracker Dirt
1992 Corvette ZR-1 First Built (Red)
1992 Impala SS 510
1993 Camaro ZL-1 "572"
1993 Corvette LT-1 Spyder
1993 Typhoon
1994 Corvette (Teal)
1994 Impala SS 6 Speed
1994 Impala Wagon
1994 Tracker Kalahari
1995 Monte Carlo Led Sled
1995 Monte Carlo Pro Street
1996 Camaro Brickyard Pace
1997 Corvette Alpha Build
1997 Corvette Beta Build
1997 Corvette Tiger Shark
2005 M/C Rock&Roll Pace (red)
1997 Monte Carlo Intimidator
1998 Camaro Drag
1998 Corvette First Built
1998 Corvette X-plorers[b]
[b]1999 Corvette C5R Show Car
1999 Corvette Shark
1999 Silverado Tonka
2000 Corvette Z06 Race
2000 Monte Carlo Brickyard #3
2000 Tahoe K5
2001 Impala Low Rider
2001 Monte Carlo Drag
Silverado #17 GMAC Racetruck
2001 Silverado Intimidator SS (Black)
2006 Silverado Craftsman Pace Flex Fuel #2
2002 Camaro Police
2002 Cavalier 425 A/FX Drag
2002 Monte Carlo Looney Tunes Pace
2002 S-10 Little Red
2003 Aveo Xtreme
2003 Corvette Lemans Pace #3
2003 Monte Carlo Rock & Roll Race
2004 Aveo X-treme
2004 Colorado SS Dark Cherry
2004 Colorado Xtreme
2004 Colorado Z-71 Vision
2004 Corvette Indy Pace
2004 Impala SS Project Vehicle
2004 Malibu Maxx SS
2004 Malibu Xtreme 2004
2004 Monte Carlo Dale Earnhardt Jr.
2004 Monte Carlo Tony Stewart
2004 Silverado Speedway
Solstice "Jazz" Transformer Movie Vehicle
1969 Reggie Jackson Camaro (red)
1990 Beretta Indy Pace
2004 Escalade Pinnacle (black)
Holden Race Car #22 (red)
2000 STS Saftey
2007 Yukon "CSI Vegas" (used in filming of show)
2003 Rendezvous CXL
1998 Rivera (teal)
2005 Colorado CC Z71
2005 Corvette Atlantic
2005 Corvette Pacific
2005 Equinox Xtreme
2004 Suburban Quadsteer
2006 HHR Official Tailgate Crew
2006 HHR Open Air
2006 HHR Panel
2006 HHR Panel Tuner
2006 HHR Xplorer Scout
2006 HHR Yearone
1995 Aurora (red)
2007 Avalanche Z-71 Plus
2007 Corvette Z06 First Built (Red)
2007 HHR SS Panel Motor City (Flat Gray)
2007 Silverado "Big Red"
2007 Silverado CC Rally Sport
2007 Silverado Country Music
2007 Silverado E85 Handy Man
1985 Calais "MSU"
2007 Silverado OCC
2007 Silverado Roadside
2007 SilveradoZ71 Orange
2007 Suburban HD Diesel
2007 Suburban Major League Baseball (Blue)
2007 Tahoe Foose
2007 Tahoe US Ski Team
Camaro Trans Am 2 seater
C/K 1500 Supertruck Chevy 2 Seat
Camaro GTZ
Camaro LT5
Corvette C5 Display Chassis
Corvette Purple Smash
Corvette Racing Boat
Corvette Trailer
Corvette ZR1 Rolling Chassis
HHR Floral
Holden Race Car (Red)
Kappa Chassis
S-10 Drag
S-10 Off Road Truck
S-10 Race Truck (Red)
S-10 Stadium Truck
2003 Centieme Concept
1916 GMC Stake Truck
1917 GMC Trailer
1948 GMC Firetruck
1978 GMC Suburban (Brown/Cream)
2003 Rollback
2004 Canyon Kayak
2004 Envoy Race Truck
2004 Envoy Water Sports
2007 Sierra All Terrain Crew
2007 Sierra HD Denali
Caprice "Fire & Rescue"
2007 Sierra Texas Edition
2007 Yukon Denali Jay-Z (Blue)
2007 Yukon XL Big Max
2007 Yukon All Terrain
2003 Hummer Spring Special
2005 Hummer Dirt Sport
2005 Hummer H2 Slant Back
2006 H3 street
2006 HHR Spring Special (Cappucino Frost)
2007 H2 Safari
2008 H3R SEMA
1994 Corvette HO
1904 Olds Touring Runabout
1923 Olds
1931 Olds Chassis
1940 Olds Blue
1949 Olds (Green)
1954 Olds Ninety Eight
1960 Olds 88 (White)
1970 Cutlass SX
1970 Olds 442 W30
1977 Olds Delta 88 Indy Pace
1995 Cutlass Darth Vadar
1995 Cutlass Mobil Net Race
1998 Intrigue 1998 (Blue)
1999 Intrigue 442
1999 Silhouette OSV #2
2001 Bravada Indy Pace
2002 Intrigue Last 2002
Aurora Exxon Race GTS (Gold/White)
Aurora IRL Race Car Cut-Away #5
Aurora IRL Race Car Cut-Away #5
1985 Peugeot 205 Turbo (Gray)
1985 Peugeot 205 Turbo Active (Gray)
1926 Pontiac
1926 Pontiac (Gray/Black)
1968 Pontiac Cataline (White)
1969 Pontiac GTO (Green)
1969 Pontiac GTO Judge (Orange/Yellow)
1980 Pontiac Grand Am Pickup
1994 Firebird Lingenfelter 383
1999 Grand Am SCT
2003 Sunfire X-plores (Yellow)
2006 Solstice DTP (Orange)
1967 GTO XXX Hardtop
1984 Fiero GT 2+2
1986 Firebird Trans Am Kamback
1987 Fiero GT Convertible
1991 Firebird Trans Am Twin Turbo
1993 Firebird IMSA Race car
1994 Firebird Firmula V8
1994 Firebird Trans Am 25th Ann.
1998 Firebird Trans Am Gold Rush
1998 Firebird Trans Am X-plorers
1998 Grand Prix M&M Pace
2000 Bonneville Salt Flats
2000 Firebird Rytek Project
2000 Firebird Trans Am Darth Vader
CTS-VR Race Replica (black)
2001 Aztek First Built (Black)
2001 Aztek Pace #1 (Red)
2001 Aztek SRV
2002 Firebird Trans Am Daytona Pace #2
2003 Grand AM Autocross
2003 Vibe Autocross Sema
2003 Vibe FX
2004 Grand Prix GXP SEMA
2004 GTO 1st built
2005 Firedbird Trans Am Collectors Ed.
2005 GTO SEMA
2006 Solstice Red Bull Drifter
2006 Solstice Weekend Racer
Fiero Goodwrench Race
Grand Am #85 race car
Grand Prix (show car)
GTO Drag Performance Parts
Firebird Mobil Race Car
1991 Saturn 4 Door 1991 (White)
1995 Saturn 1 Millionth
1999 Saturn 2 Millionth
2004 Ion Red Line
2004 Ion Red Line
2004 Ion Red Line
2004 Saturn Vue Spring Special
2004 Vue Red Line Street Play
Saturn Lola Race Car
1999 Grand Prix GT (red)
Regal Cielo Open Air
2001 Regal GNX
2002 Rendezvous Inca Trail (grey)
2002 Rendezvous Tour Edition SC
GTP Ultrlite (teal)
900 Pikes Peak
Malibu Friday Night Cruiser

[A1990]

Holy Sheit! Those are all the "holy grails" of ZR-1's. DR-1, Active, Purple Smash! is the ZR-2 the Falconer V-12?

Oh to be flush with Ca$h!

Even the rolling chassis?? These all belong at the NCM, but will probably never been seen again...

[Jeffvette]

Holy Sheit! Those are all the "holy grails" of ZR-1's. DR-1, Active, Purple Smash! is the ZR-2 the Falconer V-12?

Oh to be flush with Ca$h!

Even the rolling chassis?? These all belong at the NCM, but will probably never been seen again...


I've got a phone call into Adam at the Museum. Half the building will be empty.

ZR-2 was the 454 Vert with the hardtop.

http://www.corvettes.nl/prototypes/page83/files/page83_1.jpg

[A1990]

Half the building will be empty.



No kidding. And all those 89's. I am not sure what the Splash is either. :dontknow:

[Jeffvette]

No kidding. And all those 89's. I am not sure what the Splash is either. :dontknow:

I think it might be the smash and somebody fat fingered it. But the Purple Smash was a 91.

[A1990]

They were two separate items 89 Splash, and then farther down the list is the Purple Smash.

I wonder what the current economic situation world wide will do to the value of these once untouchable cars?

[GOLDCYLON]

If there was ever a time for a lottery win..... What treasures

[Nick]

Sounds like its more than just a bloodbath at GM :(....
I love the Purple Smash car.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/skedadl/DSC00036.jpg

And the DR-1:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/skedadl/DR-1b.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/skedadl/DR-1a.jpg

And the 1989 Geneva ZR-1:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/skedadl/DSC00035.jpg

[flyin ryan]

crazy stuff, but i guess they have to show like they are trying to trim the fat so they can get the bailout money. sucks but...

[GOLDCYLON]

Whats the history on the DR-1 ?

[-=Jeff=-]

Whats the history on the DR-1 ?

http://www.vettextc.net/NCM/89-ZR1-Info.jpg

[GOLDCYLON]

Well that works. Thanks for the post up Jeff !

[Hammer]

That car is supposed to be a one of one. Only one inexistance that GM made. can you say rare? And that's not all, check out the list below.

From an email from Mom posted on the listserver

GM Heritage Collection Sales at Barrett-Jackson
'89 Corvette DR-1
'89 Corvette Snake Skinner
'89 Corvette Splash
'89 Corvette ZR-1
'89 Corvette ZR-1 (Dark Red)
'89 Corvette ZR-2 Big Doggie
'90 Right hand steer
'90 Corvette ZR-1 Active
'91 Corvette Convertible
'92 Corvette ZR-1 First Built (Red)
'93 Corvette LT-1 Spyder
'94 Corvette (Teal)
'97 Corvette Alpha Build
'97 Corvette Beta Build
'97 Corvette Tiger Shark
'98 Corvette First Build
'98 Corvette X-plorers
'99 Corvette C5R Show Car
'99 Corvette Shark
'00 Corvette Z06 Race

Mom

>
> Good afternoon, Camaro Comrades, Firebird Friends, and Corvette
> Cousins............
>
> As you may know, the GM Heritage Collection numbers in the many
> hundreds of cars and trucks - from 'first builts' and 'last builts' to
> one-off show cars to SEMA show cars.
>
> The decision has been made to sell off select vehicles. (Indeed, a sad
> day for some of us......)
>
There's a little of everything -- fromthe Legendary Buick Blackhawk -- to (are you sitting down?) a COUPLE of 1989 Corvette ZR1s -- the Jon Moss built Track-dominating Black 572 ZL1 -- A C5 Alpha and a C5 Beta -- The Tiger Shark -- the LT5 Camaro -- a 1904 Olds Touring -- several GTOS -- both old and new -- a couple of 1970 muscle cars -- a mid nineties "510"Impala SS -- and many, many pace cars and trucks.
>
> This may be the time to break open the piggy bank.................
>
> PLEASE NOTE:
>
> This is a preliminary list -- it is very likely subject to change -
>
> Barrett-Jackson will, in the coming week or two, put out pictures
> of each of these cars on their website.

[Hammer]

Oops, gues I shoulda read the whole post first. :dontknow:
We need some new smilies by the way.

[Jason 91]

This is sad to see. It's the automtive equivalent to the government selling out of the national museums. :(

Jason

[White Bullet]

The bigger question is how will selling all of these rare or exclusive vehicles help GM? :dontknow:. I have no idea what they might bring at the auction but somehow I think it would be a drop in GM's bucket and then what? And where does the leave the Corvette Museum? I am not bright enough to have the answers but on the surface this seems very wrong.

[Z51JEFF]

I've got a phone call into Adam at the Museum. Half the building will be empty.

ZR-2 was the 454 Vert with the hardtop.

http://www.corvettes.nl/prototypes/page83/files/page83_1.jpg

Aka the Big Doggie.

[cuisinartvette]

Wow, unbelieveable. Sad time indeed.

[tomtom72]

Wow, unbelieveable. Sad time indeed.

True words....it has come to this. I can't even fathom what could be helped by this liquidation. I know when you're broke & in debt, every little bit helps. Even if the sale of every one of those cars yields a billion dollars in net to GM.....set that against the GM corporate debt paper out in the market at about 63 billion.

I hate to say this but, I think that GM is insolvent.

[GOLDCYLON]

crazy stuff, but i guess they have to show like they are trying to trim the fat so can get the bailout money. sucks but...


I completely agree to Ryans statement. I suspect this is the real reason behind this however it has to be pulling on some of GMs heartstrings for some of their personnel. I know cars are just items but I have to believe in some reguards this measure is probably to some folks at GM like losing a child. :neutral:

[Aurora40]

The bigger question is how will selling all of these rare or exclusive vehicles help GM? :dontknow:. I have no idea what they might bring at the auction but somehow I think it would be a drop in GM's bucket and then what? And where does the leave the Corvette Museum? I am not bright enough to have the answers but on the surface this seems very wrong.
Possibly more of it is savings in terms of not maintaining and storing all these? I imagine they have some staff dedicated to nothing but that.

Or maybe it's just symbolic, or perhaps they want to get rid of them before they end up part of some bankruptcy proceedings... :dontknow:

[tomtom72]

Good points Bob. I would say it's best to find "good homes" for the cars before the chapt 11 takes place....although, a chapt 11 judge would not let those cars go cheaply. Those judges have connections for "expert" consultation on assets of any type & class. I doubt that there would be any freebies in that liquidation.

I'll bet that if one looked hard enough thru the GM annual report that one might find the line item charge for the maintenance of that collection, unless it's a seperate corporation.

It's still a sad day to me that the situation has come to this point....not just GM, but the domestic auto mfg's as a group. :(

[carter200]

The bigger question is how will selling all of these rare or exclusive vehicles help GM? :dontknow:.

They have to raise money for their Christmas bonuses some how :jawdrop:

[Z51JEFF]

It would be interesting to know just how many cars G.M. has that they have set aside for historical reasons.

[Zr1 Destroyer]

I'll take the LPE/GM Tiger Shark corvette.....this was one of johns last projects before his wreck if I remember right!? There was a half hour show done about this car aswell, but can't remember where I saw it?
http://www.z06-corvette.com/super/tiger-shark-corvette-bodykit-07.jpg

[LGAFF]

Ok now its out of control:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/space_shuttle

NASA is selling space shuttles....

LGAFF
92 ZR1
#234

[-=Jeff=-]

Ok now its out of control:


Rumor is that your wife said that when you bought the 90

:razz:

[LGAFF]

Downpayment made, waiting for paperwork, alittle nervous about an on-line purchase but I stopped by the dealership(cold call) out east and test drove the car..........now I just need to dig my way out of the doghouse.

Maybe if I bought one of the shuttles I could park my cars inside....hmmmmmm

LGAFF
92 ZR1
#234

90 ZR1
#966

LT-5 1990 #702

[Zr1 Destroyer]

This might be a good Barrett Jackson to check out and airline tickets are waaaay cheap from Denver......hmmmm.

[flyin ryan]

i don't understand why G.M. just didn't do their own auction on site in Sterling Heights MI. & forget about B-J? build it up for six months then get er' started. to me it comes back to showing they are serious about getting help (bailout) now. must be?

[flyin ryan]

And another thing...i wonder how many of those cars have actual V.I.N. numbers that can be registerd, not that any of them would be driven very much, but...?

[LPE385]

And another thing...i wonder how many of those cars have actual V.I.N. numbers that can be registerd, not that any of them would be driven very much, but...?

This is true and a very good point. I thought they had to crash test so many for a production car. Well if the car never really was a prouction car like the 89 ZR's then what? I bet the ZR2 car is just a production Conv and it has a normal VIN. I thought some of these 89's cars since they never really went into production were suppose to be crushed and not sold to the public. I'm sure there might be some fine print some where but maybe not. This will be one of the best BJ's ever.

[RedSled]

Well...maybe not the best BJ ever. ;-)

[GOLDCYLON]

now I just need to dig my way out of the doghouse.


No worries bro Jeffvette gave some advise a longtime ago... Just buy the wife a few pairs of new shoes and you will be good to go. ;)

[zrss]

I've never heard of the Purple Smash car until now. Other than chrome wheels and custom paint, does it have any unique features or historical value? Thanks.

[Jeffvette]

I've never heard of the Purple Smash car until now. Other than chrome wheels and custom paint, does it have any unique features or historical value? Thanks.


Nope, just a paint test car.

Need some more ZR-1's Jim?

[zrss]

Nope, just a paint test car.

Need some more ZR-1's Jim?

Don't we all?

[flyin ryan]

I'm assuming you've all heard by now that GM is also selling off GM Performance Parts division.

[HIZNHRZ]

I'm assuming you've all heard by now that GM is also selling off GM Performance Parts division.

I thought I read the Performance Parts Division was a cash cow for GM; you'd think they would milk it for all its worth.

[flyin ryan]

I thought I read the Performance Parts Division was a cash cow for GM; you'd think they would milk it for all its worth.maybe some stuff was but not the crate engines, i would continuously get into it with guys about that. i KNOW what it costs to build these things & the way i build them it's more than what GM would be selling them for. guys would say ' i can buy a crate engine for so & so ' i'd say have at er'. i'm not working for free, sorry. but on the other hand i'm not declaring chapter 11 anytime soon either. IMO on the whole subject, not that anyone asked, the unions are mostly responsible for sucking the U.S. car manufacturers into this mess, & it is a mess.

[HIZNHRZ]

IMO on the whole subject, not that anyone asked, the unions are mostly responsible for sucking the U.S. car manufacturers into this mess, & it is a mess.

Couldn't agree more...