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Demps
07-19-2008, 07:00 AM
The Coil Over Installation Process
Jim Milstead, DRM and JeffVette all contributed to the pre-process. The following links are where I started.
Rears (http://forums.*************.com/c4-zr-1-discussion/245216-rear-coil-over-install-long-with-pics.html)
click the link then replace the *s with CF spelled out
Fronts (http://forums.*************.com/c4-zr-1-discussion/245201-front-coil-over-install-long-with-pics.html)
click the link then replace the *s with CF spelled out
So, good start. I did not like some parts of it. In comes Carter. Here's where I departed and some lessons learned.
Get the car on jacks as high as you can. Remove the old stuff per the service manual. You will need a puller to remove the tie rods and spindle in the front.
*****TIP*****
Remove the lower and upper A-arms completely. It will help remove the spring and then spread out the mount.
I had all of the old stuff removed in about two hours. It took two months to get it back together.
*****TIP*****
Have all of the parts necessary prior to starting. Carter has a tremendous start on this--now.
I did not want to cut into my front frame area. Carter made these mounting devices and I replaced the stock sway bar mounting brackets with Energy Suspension brackets (see picture) from Autozone for a 1inch sway bar.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s27/demps_photos/0b9d5fef.jpg
The stock bolts will not do to mount into the frame. You need bolts long enough to go through the block into the frame. Size is 10mm x 1.5 pitch. Two long for the outsides and one smaller for the inside (threaded). You can see how I did it here:
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s27/demps_photos/fc77cb5e.jpg
*****TIP*****
Fronts are fairly straight forward.
Now for the fun--Rears.
You will need to mill the head and reverse the suspension mounting bolts per Milstead's thread above.
Get a pry bar.
I did not like the weld then drill method for the old mounts--did have the resources. Carter made some great mounting brackets but they require shaving the upper urethane bushing. I figured it only mounts the gear and the bracket and bushing insert take up the slack.
*****TIP******
Get a dremel with a quick attachment cutting wheel. After I figured this out I was done in an hour. Use it to open the rear frame area. I did not have the necessary tools or experience to accomplish Milstead's write up opening. It also would have required removing most/all of the rear suspension. I used a grinding bit on an air compressor small grider to round the corners.
Here's what I did:
Old
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s27/demps_photos/adf13ae0.jpg
New
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s27/demps_photos/873696c5.jpg
Carter's Bracket
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s27/demps_photos/56e43283.jpg
Mounted on frame:
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s27/demps_photos/8a2d949a.jpg
D@mn site--can't put up more than 8 images. This will get sporty. Go to end to see more.
Ted
jonszr1
07-19-2008, 09:05 AM
i would call corey on this . he has a great install proceedure
jonszr1
07-19-2008, 09:06 AM
opps face is a mistake. it early fingers stiff:D
Jeffvette
07-19-2008, 01:12 PM
Ted, I'll forward over some instructions.
Demps
01-18-2010, 12:30 AM
I think I have an interesting way to accomplish the front without cutting into the frame.
Question on the rear for anyone that has done this: is the frame area strong enough to cut out a new clearance area and what kind and how do you tighten the bolts holding the shock/coil in place?
XfireZ51
01-18-2010, 08:24 AM
Demps,
I am interested in seeing what you learn. I have some of the parts for this stashed away.
GOLDCYLON
01-18-2010, 09:36 AM
Demps,
I am interested in seeing what you learn. I have some of the parts for this stashed away.
X2 im awaiting some new rear springs and a few poly kits from Summit (End links and such) and Im almost ready do get this done as well.
Demps
01-18-2010, 08:34 PM
Well...Holy Sh!t.
I have to admit: I had more fun today than I've had in a long time. I love working on my cars. Almost knew what I was doing.
Must first tell a story on myself-->I bought the dark red car and it had a service ride control light. Well, I had sent out some Bilstein's to have rebuilt (for the coil overs sitting on the shelf). On they went (dark red car). Fast forward 10 months. Black car sits too high with the Fikses. So, first I had to transfer the shocks from dk red car to black car. Hour and a half later I got started.
The short of it: rear is ready, minus a minor opening, for the install plus the following story. The front...not so much, BUT I thought I was close. Ready to remove the spring, after the control arms. I have to get a puller.
The following story: the economy is not that bad. No one wants my money. Tried four machine shops to fabricate what I think I need for minimal frame modifications. Turns out the fourth said no until I explained "Corvette ZR-1"...so maybe a chance.
More to follow. Anyone want some sway bar relocation pieces and rear shock relocation mounts?
Ted
GOLDCYLON
01-19-2010, 12:04 AM
More to follow. Anyone want some sway bar relocation pieces and rear shock relocation mounts?
Ted
Ted are these new I may be interested. GC
-=Jeff=-
01-19-2010, 08:30 AM
More to follow. Anyone want some sway bar relocation pieces and rear shock relocation mounts?
Ted
ted, I would be interested in the rear shock mounts (my fronts are done already)
Demps
01-19-2010, 09:11 PM
Hope to get some options tomorrow. I'll post when I do. Ted
Demps
01-20-2010, 09:53 PM
Well, here's what I've learned so far:
Front:
Haven't removed the front spring yet. Ran out of time. Wanted to remove everything that I needed fab work on. There are options for front mods from using all of your equipment, drilling new holes in the frame, and expanding shock tower to relocating the front sway bar & using smaller bushing mounts and heim links. Well, I'm not too big a fan of modifying the frame. Therefore, I thought I'd just have a local shop (in BF Florida) make the mount. Well, turns out it is expensive for such a small run. Welcome to the ZR-1 world you say...yes I agree. So, off to Guildstrand to buy a front block of aluminum with four bolts for $85 list...oh and they won't process the order for some reason after a day of trying.
Rear:
Spring removed. Bolt removed to shave the head and reverse. Frame not modified. Once again, thought it would be easy to "make" a new shock bracket. (D!mn, had access to a CNC machine at my previous job.) Not so much on the setup cost for making them...for now. I did learn this: the bracket is tempered and pressed. HARD! If a bracket were made, thickness would be critical to the gear seating correctly and must be strong because the rear weight will rest on the mount. The concerning part was the bracket's mounting bolt holes were slightly elongated and the bracket was not precisely flat still. If I reuse them, I will check them after a short while for their ultimate strength and shape.
So, I'm at the ZR-1 point. (definition: that point in the modification process at which you are waiting on parts). More later.
Ted
-=Jeff=-
01-20-2010, 10:01 PM
you check with Carter here on the forum for the rear stuff?
he is a machinist
GOLDCYLON
01-20-2010, 10:42 PM
Well, here's what I've learned so far:
Front: So, off to Guildstrand to buy a front block of aluminum with four bolts for $85 list...oh and they won't process the order for some reason after a day of trying.
What part number are you buying Ted?
-=Jeff=-
01-20-2010, 10:45 PM
What part number are you buying Ted?
my guess is this part:
http://guldstrand.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=144
GOLDCYLON
01-20-2010, 10:47 PM
my guess is this part:
http://guldstrand.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=144
This is what is needed to reposition the front bar as well correct? Do you know whats needed for the rear Jeff?
Demps
01-20-2010, 10:47 PM
my guess is this part:
http://guldstrand.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=144
Yes, but standby. Carter and I are conversing via email. He may be able to help us...
Locobob post on CF:
http://www.pnwzr1.net/Robert/Coilover/Guldsbrkresz.jpg
carter200
01-20-2010, 10:49 PM
you check with Carter here on the forum for the rear stuff?
he is a machinist
Talking/typing with him now :thumbsup:
-=Jeff=-
01-20-2010, 11:07 PM
This is what is needed to reposition the front bar as well correct? Do you know whats needed for the rear Jeff?
that is the front piece yes
the rear you need:
flip trailing arm bolts and grind down the head part way
move the top of the shock forward 1/2"
to do that you either weld and drill and new hole in the plate or 2 holes in the frame.
you also need to open the frame to allow room for the FX3 gear assembly to clear the frame too
carter200
01-20-2010, 11:37 PM
Ted,
Where'd you go? :dontknow:
GOLDCYLON
01-20-2010, 11:51 PM
that is the front piece yes
the rear you need:
flip trailing arm bolts and grind down the head part way
move the top of the shock forward 1/2"
to do that you either weld and drill and new hole in the plate or 2 holes in the frame.
you also need to open the frame to allow room for the FX3 gear assembly to clear the frame too
Thanks Jeff! Your keeping the FX-3 as well right?
-=Jeff=-
01-21-2010, 12:01 AM
Thanks Jeff! Your keeping the FX-3 as well right?
Absolutely!!
carter200
01-21-2010, 12:14 AM
Just talked to Ted on the phone. Looks like it's go time :thumbsup:
-=Jeff=-
01-21-2010, 11:36 AM
Just talked to Ted on the phone. Looks like it's go time :thumbsup:
for front and rear?
GOLDCYLON
01-23-2010, 05:39 PM
for front and rear?
Wacha doing Carter? :happy1:
carter200
01-24-2010, 04:03 PM
Wacha doing Carter? :happy1:
I don't machine and tell ;) I'll leave the details to Ted to tell, if he wants. :cheers:
Demps
01-24-2010, 07:45 PM
I don't machine and tell ;) I'll leave the details to Ted to tell, if he wants. :cheers:
Carter, class act! We're trying to make some minimally invasive ways to mount coil overs. Ted
carter200
01-24-2010, 08:03 PM
Thanks Ted. I always leave the ball in the customers court. Do not want to steal anyones thunder. Mums the word :eusa_shhh
RHanselman
01-27-2010, 08:12 PM
So which car is getting the coil's?
The Black car or the Dark Red car?
Cheers,
Rat
Demps
01-27-2010, 09:16 PM
Black car...I hope.
Ran across Hairball?
-=Jeff=-
01-27-2010, 09:27 PM
Guys,
I assume Rat and Hairball are call signs? (assuming I am using the right terminology)
GOLDCYLON
01-27-2010, 09:29 PM
Ted you need to let us in on the machining concept.
Demps
01-27-2010, 09:32 PM
Nothing to hide. Just want to make sure it works.
GOLDCYLON
01-27-2010, 09:52 PM
Nothing to hide. Just want to make sure it works.
Lol no was not saying that :razz: Just keep us up to date
RHanselman
01-28-2010, 08:38 AM
Black car...I hope.
Ran across Hairball?
Yes I have... Rumor is he's going to be the New DOG at the Kun...
Another rumor is I'll be returning to Vegas in a month... I might get transfered to another position with LM in Vegas... Yes, it would still be flying...
Yes Rat and Hairball are call signs just like Demps has the call sign Vader...
-=Jeff=-
01-28-2010, 08:45 AM
Yes I have... Rumor is he's going to be the New DOG at the Kun...
Another rumor is I'll be returning to Vegas in a month... I might get transfered to another position with LM in Vegas... Yes, it would still be flying...
Yes Rat and Hairball are call signs just like Demps has the call sign Vader...
Very cool guys!!!
Sorry to be off topic, but I am curious on how you end up with your call signs?
Demps
01-30-2010, 05:03 PM
Vader came from some buffoonery, some ability to talk to the jet, and some ability for a few mind tricks. More than that and we'll have to be drinking.
Back on task:
Pictures would be like everyone else's so have taken any. Here's some more lessons learned:
Get the car off of the ground. Two-post lift would be great. Didn't have one so VERY high on jack stands.
Aluminum is very soft. Watch scuffing it.
'95 front springs do not have the spring "protector" mounted on the outside.
Take off the brake rotor and caliper.
Take off the entire (top and bottom) front spindle.
Must open the hole in the shock's collar to slide down the "shaft" (sts) past the o-ring for the gear so the spring hat will seat properly.
Keep track of the parts...there will be some extra on purpose.
more later. Should have the front (minus roll bar) complete tomorrow. Waiting on mounting hardwar for roll bar and rear shocks.
Ted
Demps
01-31-2010, 11:04 PM
Front is together...waiting on Carter's magic for sway bar mounting.
Need to torque rear and grind opening for shock gear. Then waiting on more of Carter's magic.
When I get finished i'll post pix and final thoughts.
-=Jeff=-
01-31-2010, 11:19 PM
Front is together...waiting on Carter's magic for sway bar mounting.
Need to torque rear and grind opening for shock gear. Then waiting on more of Carter's magic.
When I get finished i'll post pix and final thoughts.
Curious to see what the rear stuff you are having done is
Demps
02-09-2010, 08:00 PM
Well, Carter is beyond belief!!! I'll put up some pictures of the entire project when I get finished.
He's working on the rear components--wish I had them now and you'd be seeing his great work! Anyway, his work is amazing. The car will be a work of art. I am waiting to complete but if you're wanting to install coil overs, get with Carter (or me) and get these parts....
Ted
scholtmj
02-16-2010, 09:54 AM
Pics?
GOLDCYLON
02-21-2010, 01:53 AM
Demps any picture updates of Carters work?
Demps
02-21-2010, 09:14 AM
Little bit of advice and something that I hope I contribute to anyone installing "anything" (coilovers):
Have all of the parts prior to tearing your car apart. I was trying to wait until I was finished to post up the results. I decided too late to have parts machined as opposed to modifying the car. Carter is awesome and working my parts into his business/schedule. My wife is about to kill me as I have two cars not driven in two months--one is locked in behind this one.
Any who, here's two pictures of the front pieces. They are a work of art! No my car is not detailed--it is a driver. I cleaned/detailed it once and didn't drive it for five months if a cloud was in the sky. What I wanted was a way to not modify the car too much. What you see below is a mounting block to relocate the front sway bar mounting location to clear the coil. Only change needed is the rear, tapped hole needs moved forward 1/4 inch. I used (thanks locobob) a smaller, more compact Energy Suspension mounting bracket.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s27/demps_photos/0b9d5fef.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s27/demps_photos/fc77cb5e.jpg
-=Jeff=-
02-21-2010, 09:21 AM
looking good, but also looking forward to seeing what you do for the rears
carter200
02-21-2010, 01:13 PM
Little bit of advice and something that I hope I contribute to anyone installing "anything" (coilovers):
Have all of the parts prior to tearing your car apart. I was trying to wait until I was finished to post up the results. I decided too late to have parts machined as opposed to modifying the car. Carter is awesome and working my parts into his business/schedule. My wife is about to kill me as I have two cars not driven in two months--one is locked in behind this one.
OK,
You've all now seen one of the items we are using. I'm swamped with work right now but promised Demps I would fit his needs in as I could. We still have the front items to go and that will happen very soon. I'm working as fast as I can to complete Demp's items. I've lost many jobs recently do to lack of their patience and I appreciate Demp's situation, especially when it comes to wifes and there lack of humor :eusa_shhh
Hang in there as this will be well worth it, Carter :cheers:
GOLDCYLON
02-21-2010, 06:56 PM
Looks Great Carter Nice Work.
carter200
02-21-2010, 07:09 PM
GC,
Means alot coming from you. The next parts will have a bit more flare to them. ;)
-=Jeff=-
02-21-2010, 07:40 PM
Looks Great Carter Nice Work.
When has he not done that?
cannot wait to see the rear parts
carter200
02-21-2010, 10:09 PM
When has he not done that?
cannot wait to see the rear parts
Thanks =Jeff= I appreciate the support. I really am trying to get these items done for Demps and you guys to see. :mrgreen:
-=Jeff=-
02-21-2010, 10:17 PM
Thanks =Jeff= I appreciate the support. I really am trying to get these items done for Demps and you guys to see. :mrgreen:
You do what you gotta do man.
the pieces you did for me work great!! have over 2K miles ont he front pair
waiting to see the rears before I do them on my Car
carter200
02-21-2010, 11:26 PM
You do what you gotta do man.
the pieces you did for me work great!! have over 2K miles on the front pair
waiting to see the rears before I do them on my Car
Great to hear the front items I did for you worked out. That was some fun stuff I did :dancing
GOLDCYLON
02-22-2010, 11:03 AM
When has he not done that?
None known.:mrgreen: However folks still need Kudos whenever the hobby is advanced. Just like Jerry and his Gaskets etc. I too am looking forward to seeing the rear plates. Thanks Demps for posting up the pics :cheers:
-=Jeff=-
02-22-2010, 11:08 AM
None known.:mrgreen: However folks still need Kudos whenever the hobby is advanced. Just like Jerry and his Gaskets etc. I too am looking forward to seeing the rear plates. Thanks Demps for posting up the pics :cheers:
Oh I know kudos are good.. I just had to add my $.02 :cool:
carter200
03-04-2010, 08:56 PM
Ted has a package heading his way :eusa_shhh
-=Jeff=-
03-20-2010, 11:50 PM
updates? pictures of rear pieces?
GOLDCYLON
03-21-2010, 01:13 AM
updates? pictures of rear pieces?
Hoping to see as well :hello:
-=Jeff=-
03-21-2010, 09:53 AM
Yeah once I see that will cause me to spend money
:sign10:
GOLDCYLON
03-21-2010, 05:38 PM
Yeah once I see that will cause me to spend money
:sign10:
In the same boat Jeff :happy1:
carter200
03-21-2010, 07:10 PM
We are about done with the rear. Have some fine tuning to go but I'll leave the rest of the comments to Demps :mrgreen:
Demps
03-22-2010, 12:21 AM
Carter did a great job on the rear pieces too. We were looking to ensure strength with functionality. I didn't get a picture prior but they are getting a little CNC fine tuning. The inner frame rolled edge is a little more restrictive than planned.
I'm in Vegas for a bit and will update when I return.
-=Jeff=-
03-22-2010, 12:26 AM
I assume the upper brackets are what Carter is making?
carter200
03-22-2010, 01:53 PM
I assume the upper brackets are what Carter is making?
;)
-=Jeff=-
03-30-2010, 09:06 PM
any updates?
Demps
03-30-2010, 09:10 PM
Work is killing me. Have the rears ready. Need a more agressive way to open the rear frame. This weekend.....maybe.
-=Jeff=-
03-30-2010, 09:12 PM
Ah understand.. sneak peek of the custom carter pieces??
Demps
03-30-2010, 09:17 PM
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s27/demps_photos/56e43283.jpg
-=Jeff=-
03-30-2010, 09:22 PM
he did just the top piece?
Cool deal.. now to find out what a set will cost :-D
Demps
03-30-2010, 09:26 PM
he did just the top piece?
Cool deal.. now to find out what a set will cost :-D
Well...had the bottom bolts done locally. The top pieces need a little refinement to be perfect. We'll get them right for everyone else. Need to get the install complete to finish the design.
Ted
-=Jeff=-
03-30-2010, 09:33 PM
looking forward to the pictures
what did you do for the bottom bolts?
Demps
04-06-2010, 10:01 PM
Boy, I've used every Sunday school word in the four-letter language. I have a recommendation, pay someone! I learned more lessons than I ever want to learn again.
Had the car back to together and it drove wonderfully. The more I looked at it, the more I wanted it lowered another inch. Went at it today. The process is quite involved: use a strap wrench to hold the lower collar while using the spaner wrench to adjust the mount height. Well the coil would turn ever so slightly. Heard what I think was the gear clip pop off. Have to take the rears off again to fix--and it is no small feat.
When finished I will write up all of my lessons learned and will provide my particular height adjustment for the fronts and rears.
Carter and I are collaborating on a near perfect adaptation of mounting hardware.
Ted
-=Jeff=-
04-06-2010, 10:12 PM
waiting on the edge of my seat for the parts list.. I hope I will be able to buy rear only pieces as that is all I will need
Demps
04-06-2010, 10:17 PM
waiting on the edge of my seat for the parts list.. I hope I will be able to buy rear only pieces as that is all I will need
Absolutely! Just let me try to refine it a bit for you. The first attempt needs a little tweeking.
Ted
-=Jeff=-
04-06-2010, 10:28 PM
Absolutely! Just let me try to refine it a bit for you. The first attempt needs a little tweeking.
Ted
No worries Ted!! been looking forward to the pictures. Glad I will be able to buy the rears only too..
-=Jeff=-
04-30-2010, 11:42 PM
Any updates on the rear parts?
-=Jeff=-
05-10-2010, 06:45 PM
Anything?
I am sending out my rear shocks to be rebuilt and grooved, would like to get these parts to help with the install
carter200
05-10-2010, 08:31 PM
I received a memo from Demps and he is working on the installation instructions. Will be starting on the kits soon after. Thanks for hanging in there :cheers:
-=Jeff=-
05-10-2010, 08:33 PM
Thanks for the response..
I sent you a PM too (about this and another part):cheers:
carter200
05-10-2010, 09:07 PM
Thanks for the response..
I sent you a PM too (about this and another part):cheers:
Got it and answered it :dancing
-=Jeff=-
05-10-2010, 09:18 PM
Got it and answered it :dancing
:cheers:
-=Jeff=-
06-15-2010, 02:33 PM
Demps,
you ever finish your install?
What is the status of this?
Demps
06-16-2010, 09:11 PM
Sorry guys for being delinquent. Been busy lately. Yes I finished the install. Carter's stuff is amazing and works well. I could not find a machine shop close by that wanted the business to modify the stock stuff and Carter offered to help. AMAZING.
I've tried to put some miles on the car. It is everything I wanted. I also lowered the car about an inch and a half all around. Looks great. I'll get a write up soon.
Big 40 is this Saturday and we are having a blow out party. So maybe after.
Ted
4DSZR1
06-16-2010, 10:38 PM
:occasion1:occasion1:cheers::cheers:
Happy Birthday Ted.
secondchance
06-17-2010, 08:31 AM
Happy Birthday!:occasion1
-=Jeff=-
06-17-2010, 08:41 AM
Happy 40th Vader!!!!
-=Jeff=-
06-21-2010, 10:43 PM
Any pictures of the rear mount yet?
Polo-1
06-21-2010, 10:45 PM
back at post #66
-=Jeff=-
06-21-2010, 10:48 PM
back at post #66
Thanks forgot about that one
Demps
06-22-2010, 09:55 AM
Before
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s27/demps_photos/adf13ae0.jpg
modified bracket (must open frame to fit)
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s27/demps_photos/8a2d949a.jpg
had to shave top urethane bushing to fit gear on with increased thickness
note offset
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s27/demps_photos/873696c5.jpg
I'm on the road. This is from iPhone. Will completely detail when I return.
Ted
installed
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s27/demps_photos/e8d59e4f.jpg
-=Jeff=-
07-05-2010, 09:06 PM
So you have instructions for the mounts from Carter yet?
Demps
07-06-2010, 09:46 PM
The Coil Over Installation Process
Jim Milstead, DRM and JeffVette all contributed to the pre-process. The following links are where I started.
Rears[/URL ([URL]http://forums.*************.com/c4-zr-1-discussion/245216-rear-coil-over-install-long-with-pics.html)]
click the link then replace the *s with CF spelled out
Fronts[/URL ([URL]http://forums.*************.com/c4-zr-1-discussion/245201-front-coil-over-install-long-with-pics.html)]
click the link then replace the *s with CF spelled out
So, good start. I did not like some parts of it. In comes Carter. Here's where I departed and some lessons learned.
Get the car on jacks as high as you can. Remove the old stuff per the service manual. You will need a puller to remove the tie rods and spindle in the front.
*****TIP*****
Remove the lower and upper A-arms completely. It will help remove the spring and then spread out the mount.
I had all of the old stuff removed in about two hours. It took two months to get it back together.
*****TIP*****
Have all of the parts necessary prior to starting. Carter has a tremendous start on this--now.
I did not want to cut into my front frame area. Carter made these mounting devices and I replaced the stock sway bar mounting brackets with Energy Suspension brackets (see picture) from Autozone for a 1inch sway bar.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s27/demps_photos/0b9d5fef.jpg
The stock bolts will not do to mount into the frame. You need bolts long enough to go through the block into the frame. Size is 10mm x 1.5 pitch. Two long for the outsides and one smaller for the inside (threaded). You can see how I did it here:
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s27/demps_photos/fc77cb5e.jpg
*****TIP*****
Fronts are fairly straight forward.
Now for the fun--Rears.
You will need to mill the head and reverse the suspension mounting bolts per Milstead's thread above.
Get a pry bar.
I did not like the weld then drill method for the old mounts--did have the resources. Carter made some great mounting brackets but they require shaving the upper urethane bushing. I figured it only mounts the gear and the bracket and bushing insert take up the slack.
*****TIP******
Get a dremel with a quick attachment cutting wheel. After I figured this out I was done in an hour. Use it to open the rear frame area. I did not have the necessary tools or experience to accomplish Milstead's write up opening. It also would have required removing most/all of the rear suspension. I used a grinding bit on an air compressor small grider to round the corners.
Here's what I did:
Old
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s27/demps_photos/adf13ae0.jpg
New
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s27/demps_photos/873696c5.jpg
Carter's Bracket
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s27/demps_photos/56e43283.jpg
Mounted on frame:
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s27/demps_photos/8a2d949a.jpg
Ted
Demps
07-06-2010, 09:49 PM
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s27/demps_photos/ca4fbed2.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s27/demps_photos/e8d59e4f.jpg
*****TIP*****
Do not adjust the coil height with the shock gear attached. It may twist the gear despite your best efforts not to. ALSO, MAKE SURE THE GEAR IS SEATED PROPERLY PRIOR TO PUTTING IT ALL BACK TOGETHER!!!
Okay: what else?
Ted
carter200
07-06-2010, 10:20 PM
Ted,
You have done a great job of illustrating and documenting the coil over installation kit of ours. I have some "new" pics of the upper brackets I'll post if someone can tell me how to or I can email them to someone to post.
Thanks for all your hard work on this project. I will be mailing the first rear kit to -=Jeff=- this week. With all you have to do it is appreciated that you took the time to do this, thanks again! salute
-=Jeff=-
07-07-2010, 08:08 AM
*****TIP*****
Do not adjust the coil height with the shock gear attached. It may twist the gear despite your best efforts not to. ALSO, MAKE SURE THE GEAR IS SEATED PROPERLY PRIOR TO PUTTING IT ALL BACK TOGETHER!!!
meaning, have the actuator removed when adjusting?
EDIT: also thanks for putting this together
HAWAIIZR-1
07-07-2010, 10:51 PM
Ted,
You have done a great job of illustrating and documenting the coil over installation kit of ours. I have some "new" pics of the upper brackets I'll post if someone can tell me how to or I can email them to someone to post.
Thanks for all your hard work on this project. I will be mailing the first rear kit to -=Jeff=- this week. With all you have to do it is appreciated that you took the time to do this, thanks again! salute
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j86/hawaiizr1/ZR-1Coiloverrearbrackets.jpg
Okay, here are -=JEFF=-'s pair!!!
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j86/hawaiizr1/ZR-1Coiloverrearbracket-1.jpg
Here is a close up of the bracket and note how it is radiused.
Carter is one heck of a Master Machinist!!!!
:cheers:
-=Jeff=-
07-07-2010, 10:53 PM
SWEEET!!!!!!
Thanks Carter
Thanks for posting pics Craig
HAWAIIZR-1
07-07-2010, 10:59 PM
SWEEET!!!!!!
Thanks Carter
Thanks for posting pics Craig
Jeff, you're welcome.
Carter, your machine work rocks big time. I'm brainstorming the next project for you..............
-=Jeff=-
07-24-2010, 10:16 AM
Hey demps,
what do you mean by this:
http://zr1.net/forum/showpost.php?p=93221&postcount=94
Demps
07-24-2010, 10:43 AM
I could not prevent the upper portion from rotating. Also, you cannot verify the rears are not rotating. I twistedthe rears enough that I, luckily, popped the rear actuator off-- vice damaging it.
-=Jeff=-
07-24-2010, 10:45 AM
I could not prevent the upper portion from rotating. Also, you cannot verify the rears are not rotating. I twistedthe rears enough that I, luckily, popped the rear actuator off-- vice damaging it.
so to adjust ride height you need to unbolt the shock plate before turning the bottom adjuster?
Thanks for all your help/work
Demps
07-24-2010, 10:50 AM
Yes. It is best. I used a strap wrench to try and hold it steady but the coil or shaft turned the top gear. I set the height I though I wanted then drove the car a few miles and let it settle.
Ted
-=Jeff=-
07-24-2010, 10:55 AM
how did you determine what the ride height would be with the shock? I was going to base the rear setting of of what I have for the front. Thanks
Demps
07-24-2010, 11:04 AM
Out of town so I can't check. The rears are more than the fronts--almost double but that is from memory.
-=Jeff=-
07-24-2010, 12:51 PM
Out of town so I can't check. The rears are more than the fronts--almost double but that is from memory.
almost double?
Ugh..
So how do you hold the threaded sleeve in place while adjusting?
pantera1683
09-09-2010, 05:19 AM
Carter,
I would like to purchase a set of your custom mounts. How much?
carter200
09-09-2010, 08:39 AM
Kris,
PM answered. :-D
GOLDCYLON
09-12-2010, 12:56 AM
Carter's the man.... Nuff said. Thanks for your support Carter to this forum and its members. Nothing but the highest quality. GC
carter200
09-12-2010, 01:06 AM
GC,
Thanks for the kind words and I am glad to do all I can. :cheers:
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