Stainless Works headers

[Jeffvette]

Was working on installing a set of headers and came across a not so small issue.

Be warned the pictures are large.

http://www.pnwzr1.com/images/SSW_Headers/IMG_1253.jpg (http://www.pnwzr1.com/images/SSW_Headers/IMG_1253.jpg)
(http://www.pnwzr1.com/images/SSW_Headers/IMG_1253.jpg)http://www.pnwzr1.com/images/SSW_Headers/IMG_1254.jpg (http://www.pnwzr1.com/images/SSW_Headers/IMG_1253.jpg)
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Shot 1253 shows the interference with the steering rack and also the gap
at the end with the flange and the cylinder head end.

Shot 1254 shows the center stud and that the header can not move any
further back from that point, and also the amount of bolts I was able to
get on to help center the header.

Shot 1255 shows the driver side rear bolt holes and how the line up with
the cylinder head.
Currently the headers are on there way back to SSW. They agree there is a issue, and need to figure out why as the flanges are cut on a CNC machine and the headers are assembled on a jig.

[Polo-1]

Time to get the drill and smoke wrench out:rolleyes:

[GOLDCYLON]

Was working on installing a set of headers and came across a not so small issue.

Be warned the pictures are large.

http://www.pnwzr1.com/images/SSW_Headers/IMG_1253.jpg (http://www.pnwzr1.com/images/SSW_Headers/IMG_1253.jpg)
http://www.pnwzr1.com/images/SSW_Headers/IMG_1254.jpg (http://www.pnwzr1.com/images/SSW_Headers/IMG_1253.jpg)
http://www.pnwzr1.com/images/SSW_Headers/IMG_1255.jpg (http://www.pnwzr1.com/images/SSW_Headers/IMG_1253.jpg)

Shot 1253 shows the interference with the steering rack and also the gap
at the end with the flange and the cylinder head end.

Shot 1254 shows the center stud and that the header can not move any
further back from that point, and also the amount of bolts I was able to
get on to help center the header.

Shot 1255 shows the driver side rear bolt holes and how the line up with
the cylinder head.
Currently the headers are on there way back to SSW. They agree there is a issue, and need to figure out why as the flanges are cut on a CNC machine and the headers are assembled on a jig.


Do you see this problem with jeals?

[Jeffvette]

Nope, but I haven't seen a set of Jeals in a long time.

[Zr1 Destroyer]

Interesting! I just got done cutting down the top of of my motor mount on the drivers side! I noticed while wrenching my motor mount bolts back down that the mount heat cover had got a little crispy. Removed it and noticed the header resting on the top corner of the mount.....I tried to adjust it, but was not enough so I had to remove the mount and file it down to get only about an 1/8" of clearance......wierd!:o

[We Gone]

Just put a set on my 91 a few weeks ago. everything fit good.

[lbszr]

Two years ago mine fit good except 1/16" clearance to steering shaft and touches on right turns, which is kinda irritating since it can be felt, close but not touching engine mount insulation.

[Jeffvette]

Just put a set on my 91 a few weeks ago. everything fit good.

Good to know, this is the first set I've had issues with on the flange. I had some issues with mine that are on my car, but they were one of the first ones from SSW.

[We Gone]

Jeff,

I just got this set from SSW on 3/28 ordered them the first of Feb. took about a month as they had to make them and send them out for coating. Got around to putting them on 2 weeks ago. Everything went normal as far as header installs go. The fit was good all the bolt holes lined up very nice. The fit near the steering shaft was close but still had about 3/8 inch of clearance. As far as the left motor mount they do touch the insulation but nothing more. On the right side the only close spot is the frame rail with about a 1/16 inch clearance. Looks like someone did not get the jig set up right on the set you are working with.

[tf95ZR1]

Do you see this problem with jeals?

I was lucky and found a set of Jeals. Not only fit well and good clearance,
but could use the stock oil dip stick tube and oxygen sensors.

That was not the case for Jerry who had some issues with his Jeals.

Sounds like its just the luck of the draw.......

[GOLDCYLON]

I was lucky and found a set of Jeals. Not only fit well and good clearance,
but could use the stock oil dip stick tube and oxygen sensors.

That was not the case for Jerry who had some issues with his Jeals.

Sounds like its just the luck of the draw.......

Well I hope I get a good draw as I have yet to install them but they came of of Todd C s car so im sure they should fit. Tucked away in the garage for a next big upgrade.

[Nick]

Wow, somebody at SW had a bad day. Reminds me of all the swearing and hammering we did when we installed your headers all those many moons ago, Jeff. :mrgreen:

[Jerry#397]

Jeff,

The problem I had with the "new" Jeal Headers I just installed was the location of the drivers side 02 probe, it hit the bell housing. Had to grind quite a bit to get it in and give about 1/16" clearance. And one other problem area for the Calif. guys is the location of the EGR tube, it would not allow me to put in the top bolt on the K brace on the passenger side; had to remove the header, install the K brace then reinstall the header. And I could not intall all the bolts on the passenger side front port although I have no leaks.

Jerry

[Jeffvette]

I just wanted to give an update, seeing as how panties are in a bunch over at CF.

Headers were received by SSW on Monday 12th. I had to call and ask for an update on the 14th. They agreed the primary tube #1 was sticking out further than it should, and they were inspecting the cnc pattern on the flange for any issues.

As it stands, I have been doing the one calling to get info. I am about to call now and get an update on the flange issue.

[ZR WON]

Jeff:

Don't know if you waded through all the BS on CF to see my post... If you have not done this already, contact Al Noe. He is basically Mr. SW's. When I was selling the headers to our community, he took care of any issues with incredible timeliness. Hope this helps.

Regards

Brian A.
90 ZR-1
12.09@118
01 Z06
not quite stock

[95ZR1#418]

Jeff-
FYI- I installed my SW's in Feb 2004. Perfect fit, tight- but as you would expect with any application takes time to get all the bolts in. Love my system!:mrgreen:

Definitly a production problem since '04 anyhow

[bradslt5]

Jeff,

The problem I had with the "new" Jeal Headers I just installed was the location of the drivers side 02 probe, it hit the bell housing. Had to grind quite a bit to get it in and give about 1/16" clearance. And one other problem area for the Calif. guys is the location of the EGR tube, it would not allow me to put in the top bolt on the K brace on the passenger side; had to remove the header, install the K brace then reinstall the header. And I could not intall all the bolts on the passenger side front port although I have no leaks.

Jerrynew jeal headers?????? is someone making these now?

[95ZR1#418]

new jeal headers?????? is someone making these now?

Jerry-

In '04 I had 1 chance to buy a set of Jeals, as far as I know they were the last available set on the planet offered by Cory Henderson........I've never heard of them being available since then, they were offered to me at 3 times the price of SW's hense my decline. I fear you will only find them available as used, and as of this date I've never seen a set available.

There are custum headers available today other than SW & the defunct Jeal which you can pursue, they will even hook up your AIR to them, find them using Google, may cost you a couple thousand but you'd probably love'm.

[Jerry#397]

Guys,

I bought them off of e-bay, they were advertised as new with all the parts that came with them. Did the guy in Texas that owned them tell the truth? A number of folks saw them and bid as I did, just kept bidding until they were mine, $1050.00.

Jerry

[Jeffvette]

Just to wrap up this discussion, SSW put the header back on the jig and the #1 pipe was not welded correctly. They sent out an updated set and everything installed perfectly. Car was a little late to the customer, but he understood and the weather was also crappy.

[JIMSTAINLESSWORKS]

ANY TIME THAT ANYONE HAS A PROBLEM WITH ONE OF OUR SYSTEMS PLEASE CALL JIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I MAKE IT A PERSONAL PRIORITY TO ALWAYS TAKE CARE OF OUR CUSTOMERS INSTANTLY!!!!!

STAINLESS STEEL MANDREL BENT SYSTEMS ARENT CHEAP.

THEY ARE THE PREMIERE SYSTEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SO SHOULD THE FITMENT AND SERVICE BE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE KIND WORDS AND FOLLOW UP ON THE EXPERIENCE YOU HAD WITH US.


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