B&M on the bay

[Hammer]

For anybody wanting a B&M shifter. Might be able to pick this one up cheap.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/B-M-MANUAL-C4-CORVETTE-SHORT-THROW-SHIFTER-89-96_W0QQitemZ180214585686QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item18 0214585686

[flyin ryan]

do you have one of these John? i haven't really noticed anybody talking much about aftermarket (B&M/Hurst) shifters for our cars. i have never went looking for any threads either, to be fair. is there much improvement or not a ton? i know the Viper guys say they help quite a bit. just wondering...

[Hammer]

I have the Hurst and there is quite a difference. Much better shifts and more positive feel.

Haven't tried the B & M, Bill Boudreau www.zfdoc.com (http://www.zfdoc.com) modifies them. He installed one in Uly's car in Vegas and it has the shortest throws I've ever seen.

[flyin ryan]

can you tell it's in place of the stock shifter or no? i wonder if the B&M & Hurst are going to end up being the same in time now that B&M ownes Hurst?

[kenthompson]

can you tell it's in place of the stock shifter or no? i wonder if the B&M & Hurst are going to end up being the same in time now that B&M ownes Hurst?

Kinda depends on whether you use the big white ball, the big black ball, or the factory handle in your hand. (NO JOKES!) :)

I like mine, I was consistantly missing third gear with the factory shifter, now--notsomuch...

I do like the feel, and they aren't hard to install at all.

[rogerzr1]

I do like the feel, and they aren't hard to install at all.[/quote]

What is involved with installing one of these?

[flyin ryan]

Kinda depends on whether you use the big white ball, the big black ball, or the factory handle in your hand. (NO JOKES!) :)

ssooo...you CAN use the factory leather knob? i do notice the same thing on my Ruby car. gotta be careful going into 3rd.

[kenthompson]

I do like the feel, and they aren't hard to install at all.

What is involved with installing one of these?[/quote]

ZF, do you want a sticky?

Basically, you need to disassemble the center console, unbolt the shifter from the trans, disassemble the shifter, install the new shifter and reassemble the whole thing. I did mine while I was installing the fidenza and the new clutch (since I had the trans out anyway). It's not too difficult. Some say you need to remove the exhaust (I had mine out anyway), some say you don't.

Make sure that you get one with bearings installed. Most of the Hurst shifters are shipped without bearings. Hurst still has never shipped me bearings. I went third party to the bearing house (AH1010 bearings I believe.) and bought some.

[kenthompson]

ssooo...you CAN use the factory leather knob? i do notice the same thing on my Ruby car. gotta be careful going into 3rd.

Yep, you can. It's threaded on too.

[Arctic91]

Anyone tried this without removing the exhaust? Let me know if it can be done. If this is something that I can do in the garage (no lift), it's probably game on.

[Nick]

Anyone tried this without removing the exhaust? Let me know if it can be done. If this is something that I can do in the garage (no lift), it's probably game on.
I did mine lying on my back in 30 degree Seattle weather one January, without removing the exhaust. Its tight, but it can be done. With a lift? Probably cut the install time in half. Spent more time getting the car up high enough on jack stands than installing the shifter. Good luck.:cheers:

[tf95ZR1]

i haven't really noticed anybody talking much about aftermarket (B&M/Hurst) shifters for our cars. i have never went looking for any threads either, to be fair. is there much improvement or not a ton? just wondering...

Lots 'o discussions about this like:

http://forums.*************.com/showthread.php?t=1758944&highlight=short+shift

Go to a ZR1 GTG and try them out! I like mine....
Bill Boudreau modified Hurst. Check out

http://www.zfdoc.com/S6-40ShifterOptions.htm

I can't comment on the install as I had Bill place the shifter in my new trans when he built it.