Anyone seen this car

[kdmranch]

Has anyone checked out this car? Ad says New York, owners name is John, Is this a scam?

Hello,
This is my: 1995 Corvette ZR1 RED ON BLACK.
I hate to see this car go but it's just not practical at this point in time for me to keep it. Drives like a dream.
Torch Red
Black Leather Interior
LT-5 4 CAM 405 Horsepower
6 Speed Transmission
Bose Audio
Dual Tops
1 OF 448
ZR-1's Produced during the final run of 1995
Last Year of production for the Mighty ZR-1 Powerhouse

ZR-1 Package Includes:
5.7 Liter Dual Overhead Cam 32 Valve V-8
6 Speed Manual Transmission
275X40ZR17 Front Tires
315x35zr17 Rear Tires
17x9.5 Front Wheels
17x11 Rear Wheels
Electronic Air Conditioning

Selective Ride and Handling
Leather Adjustable Sport Seats
6 way Driver and Passenger Seats
Low Tire Pressure Warning System
This ZR-1 has Extremely Nice Torch Red Paint and a well kept interior.
It drives like a 20,000 Mile ZR-1. It runs, shifts and turns perfectly. The suspension is tight and the select ride flows seamlessly. The clutch and transmission have 0 issues and work great. Its hard to believe after driving and looking at this rare car, that is has 103,000 Miles on it
Clean Title.
The buy it now price is: $9480.
If you are still interested please comtact me ASAP as I have many buyers interested. I will send you the VIN, more pics and payment and shipping details.











http://i4.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/c5/1e/701e_12.JPG

[RedSled]

Not me. I'll take two though...

[carter200]

I'll take 2 more right after you :dancing

[carter200]

Smell like a S C A M :???:

[kdmranch]

I will right the check if someone can verify that it exist. I am waiting for him to send me the VIN.

[tccrab]

SCAMMERS usually aren't as thorough in their information, I see nothing wrong with his ad other than price.

If the ad is legit then somebody has *ALREADY* gotten a 'smokin HOT deal.

[kdmranch]

I found it listed on Dec 30. I emailed for info, I did not hear back so I didn't think he was going to respond. I just found his reponse in my junk mail. Something smells fishy, seems to me it should have sold many times over by now.

[treeZR1]

The last line says " payment and shipping details ", this is definitely a scam!!!
There need not be any payment or shipping of the vehicle it should be cash and carry. Seller will tell you how he is in U.K. and his brother or friend will handle putting the car in some "secured transport companies care". You are required to send the money to some escrow company (usually half) where it will be kept until the car arrives and you will have three days to inspect and then send the balance of the money. REPEAT THIS IS A SCAM!!!!!

[GOLDCYLON]

Shim Sham send your money to Nigeria :sign10:

[LGAFF]

Got the same e-mail from "John Purcell", reminds me of all of the 2nd chance offers I used to get from Ebay.......too canned not to be a scam. Anyone know someone at the Postal Inspectors office? Setting up these types of clowns can be fun, I've done it a few times with my job in Insurance. LGAFF


Hello,
This is my: 1995 Corvette ZR1 RED ON BLACK.
I hate to see this car go but it's just not practical at this point in time for me to keep it. Drives like a dream.
Torch Red
Black Leather Interior
LT-5 4 CAM 405 Horsepower
6 Speed Transmission
Bose Audio
Dual Tops
1 OF 448
ZR-1's Produced during the final run of 1995
Last Year of production for the Mighty ZR-1 Powerhouse

ZR-1 Package Includes:
5.7 Liter Dual Overhead Cam 32 Valve V-8
6 Speed Manual Transmission
275X40ZR17 Front Tires
315x35zr17 Rear Tires
17x9.5 Front Wheels
17x11 Rear Wheels
Electronic Air Conditioning

Selective Ride and Handling
Leather Adjustable Sport Seats
6 way Driver and Passenger Seats
Low Tire Pressure Warning System
This ZR-1 has Extremely Nice Torch Red Paint and a well kept interior.
It drives like a 20,000 Mile ZR-1. It runs, shifts and turns perfectly. The suspension is tight and the select ride flows seamlessly. The clutch and transmission have 0 issues and work great. Its hard to believe after driving and looking at this rare car, that is has 103,000 Miles on it
Clean Title.


http://i4.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/c5/1e/701e_12.JPG


The buy it now price is: $9480.
If you are still interested please comtact me ASAP as I have many buyers interested. I will send you the VIN, more pics and payment and shipping details.

Thank you


> Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 01:35:35 -0500
> From: sellyourcar@autotrader.com
>
> Subject: Owner 61712963: AutoTrader.com (http://autotrader.com/): Vehicle Lead 1995 Chevrolet Corvette
>
> ***VEHICLE LEAD***
>
> The following lead was generated from AutoTrader.com (http://autotrader.com/)'s web site at http://www.autotrader.com (http://www.autotrader.com/). The listing is provided by AutoTrader magazine.
> To view the vehicle, click the link below:
> http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=235790641 (http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=235790641)
>
>
> VEHICLE INFORMATION
> Make: Chevrolet
> Model: Corvette
> Year: 1995
> Price: 9480
> Mileage: 103000
> Body Style: Coupe
> Color: Red
> Cylinders: 8 Cylinder
> Transmission: Manual
> Doors: Two Door
> Stereo: Unavailable
> Description: 1995 Corvette ZR1 RED ON BLACK. Torch Red. I am the second owner. It runs, shifts and turns perfectly. The suspension is tight and the select ride flows seamlessly. The clutch and transmission have 0 issues and work great. 6 Speed Transmission. Torch Red. Black Leather Interior. Bose Audio. Dual Tops. 5.7 Liter Dual Overhead Cam 32 Valve V-8. Electronic Air Conditioning. Just look at the pictures!!!

[Polo-1]

anyone close to that area? I will pay $1000.00 to look at and buy the car for me:D

Scam city on this one:sign10: At least make the price 20k to make kinda look real.

[phrogs]

No one has gone to NY to buy this car come on scam just a person who wants to sell!

Who is close to this guy?

anyhow does anyone have the vin yet?

[32valvZ]

Thats an *** reaming waiting to happen[-X

[Polo-1]

looks like these pictures, don't it:D

http://www.coopercorvettes.com/c495red07119.htm

[tomtom72]

Well guys that car lives in the town next to me......if it exists at all....would take me no more than 15 mins to get to him from my abode!:mrgreen:

If someone can set it up for this saturday I'll go look at it, just give me the contact info.....if this is legit:icon_scra

Can't go on sunday till late in the afternoon....got a cruise to go on early in the AM....no snow & clean streets, just can't resist & I need an attitude adjustment session anyway!;)

:cheers:
Tom

[kdmranch]

Well guys that car lives in the town next to me......if it exists at all....would take me no more than 15 mins to get to him from my abode!:mrgreen:

If someone can set it up for this saturday I'll go look at it, just give me the contact info.....if this is legit:icon_scra

Can't go on sunday till late in the afternoon....got a cruise to go on early in the AM....no snow & clean streets, just can't resist & I need an attitude adjustment session anyway!;)

:cheers:
Tom


Tom,

I e-mailed him back for the VIN and for the cars location. I have not heard back from him.

[GOLDCYLON]

looks like these pictures, don't it:D

http://www.coopercorvettes.com/c495red07119.htm



Nahh it was all done with mirrors..... Pay no attention to the scammer behind the curtain :mrgreen:

[tomtom72]

Tom,

I e-mailed him back for the VIN and for the cars location. I have not heard back from him.


:thumbsup: I just want to be clear about something.....I'm not gonna go look to jump over some one else's interest in this car. Ya know buy it out from under someone.....I'm just trying to offer up any assistance as it's next door to me so to speak....ya know in the spirit of the Brotherhood of the Beast.:mrgreen:

:cheers:

[HADI-ZR1]

Time to open SCAM SECTION in our Forum !! :icon_scra

[djpatrick35]

Nahh it was all done with mirrors..... Pay no attention to the scammer behind the curtain :mrgreen:

:sign10:

[djpatrick35]

Nahh it was all done with mirrors..... Pay no attention to the scammer behind the curtain :mrgreen:

:sign10:

[treeZR1]

:thumbsup: I just want to be clear about something.....I'm not gonna go look to jump over some one else's interest in this car. Ya know buy it out from under someone.....I'm just trying to offer up any assistance as it's next door to me so to speak....ya know in the spirit of the Brotherhood of the Beast.:mrgreen:

:cheers:Tom if you look at the pictures from the link Polo-1 attached you will see the same rock wall in the full color shots, and the brick wall in the black and white shots.:icon_ques

[tomtom72]

Yea Tree, I was trying to figure where in westchester county or yonkers that photo was shot. I figured it might give me a line on where I gotta go to eye up that car. Can't place the spot....but in truth I didn't look all that hard at the photo.:o

this may be a fairy tale anyway!:wink:

:cheers:

[tccrab]

Guys:

This story just gets better and better and better...

<My email>
Where is the car? I'm in California.
How do we close the deal?
I'd like to see the car in person before I write the check, I have cash in hand and am willing to deal RIGHT NOW.

Regards,

<his reply>
Hello,
Here is the VIN: 1g1yz22j9s5800367
The car is in excelent condition. The pictures show its exact shape. Garrage kept! This car runs and drives great. The transmission shifts like a dream. This vehicle's engine is in perfect working condition, no mechanical problems. Oil pressure is good. All mileage are highway mileage. No accidents. No paintwork. All power and optional equipment work perfectly. This vehicle is perfectly sound, no known defects. It has a clean exterior that looks new. Interior is clean and well taken care of. All electrical and optional equipment on this vehicle are in perfect working condition. You will receive the car along with all papers and recipts that you need, everything signed, ready to register it in you name. You will receive the TITLE, keys and owner manual. So you don't need to worry for extra money you would have to invest in it. (you have to consider that the car has 12 years on it....)

I am currently stationed in Florida with the Army National Guard. I WILL BE STAYING HERE FOR 3 MORE WEEKS BEFORE BEING DEPLOYED TO IRAQ AND I WANT TO SELL THE CAR FAST. I have the car here with me and I will ship it for free as long as you are located in the US. The military will help me with the delivery of the car. It takes 1 day to handle the shipping and 4 days to bring it to you. I hope this is not a problem. In case you want to buy the car I will only use a safe third party service, that will secure both your money and me as the seller.
So, if you are still interested, just let me know ASAP
Thank you

<snip>


I'll see where this leads, heck who knows, I might wind up with a $9800 ZR1... yeaaa... right...

T

[tccrab]

Better and better...

<My reply to the latest email:>
John:

Yes, I did read your last email.
Did you read mine?
Here's the important part, just in case you missed it:

Where is the car now and when can I go see it?
I will bring a cashiers check with me and if I like what I see the car is SOLD.

That being said, where and when can I see the car?
I will bring cash.

<His Reply>

You are wasting my time!
I can not sell the car in person. You are not alowed to enter the base and I do not have time to meet you. This is why I told you in my second e-mail that I will ONLY sell it using a safe escrow site.
I hope you'll find another car.....

<My latest reply>
I am not wasting your time.
I have the cash.
I can get a plane ticket.
You can drive it outside the base for 5 minutes.
That's all it will take.


We'll just have to see where this goes...
it's been fun and i've not been that busy today...

[kdmranch]

Has anyone let Cooper Corvette know that someone who says he is in Florida has there car for sale? They may want to give him a commission.

[ZRWON]

Better and better...

<My reply to the latest email:>
John:
Yes, I did read your last email.
Did you read mine?
Here's the important part, just in case you missed it:
Where is the car now and when can I go see it?
I will bring a cashiers check with me and if I like what I see the car is SOLD.

That being said, where and when can I see the car?
I will bring cash.
<His Reply>
You are wasting my time!
I can not sell the car in person. You are not alowed to enter the base and I do not have time to meet you. This is why I told you in my second e-mail that I will ONLY sell it using a safe escrow site.
I hope you'll find another car.....
<My latest reply>
I am not wasting your time.
I have the cash.
I can get a plane ticket.
You can drive it outside the base for 5 minutes.
That's all it will take.

We'll just have to see where this goes...
it's been fun and i've not been that busy today...


Tom, I seem to recall that a lot of EBAY guys were ripped off by some overseas scams using a phony "safe escrow site" as the tool to get buyer's $$.
Didn't this whole thread start with an EBAY listing?? If so, and if it's still listed, one of us should report it to EBAY security. They might track "honest John " down and clip his wings?

[phrogs]

Hey what is the email of the guy I tried to email him but havent heard back from him.

Please please let me have his email that he has contacted you with!!!!!


PM me I want to have some fun

Just found this on autotrader________________________________________ _________________




This car is no longer listed for sale.

The seller has removed this ad from the site. Keep searching! We update our listings constantly, so we're sure you'll find similar cars.

[tccrab]

Tom, I seem to recall that a lot of EBAY guys were ripped off by some overseas scams using a phony "safe escrow site" as the tool to get buyer's $$.
Didn't this whole thread start with an EBAY listing?? If so, and if it's still listed, one of us should report it to EBAY security. They might track "honest John " down and clip his wings?

Bill:

It was a Autotrader ad that one of the other guys pointed out.
I just decided to email the seller and play a little game of cat and mouse.
He's apparently pulled the ad, something must have scared him off.
His mistake for trying to sell such a rare car at such a low price. If it had been any other common car he probably could have hooked himself a few suckers.

It was fun and I was bored so what the heck.
:D

Tom

[treeZR1]

Bill
Tell him you have a level 21 security clearance, and that you can get into any installation in the world ( even area 51 ), and that you probably know his superiors. Hell tell him he does not even have to be there just tell you what base it is on and you will inspect the car and then forward payment anywhere he would like. I would really like to see how he plays that one.
I have played with a lot of these scammers and this one from the sounds of it on a 1 to 10 basis, is probably a 4 but I still like to see how far I can bait them.

[treeZR1]

After scrolling back up I see I am actually addressing Tom.
Sorry Bill

[djpatrick35]

Play with this guy as much as you can... I can't wait to see how this turns out! And, if in the slight chance that it's for real, you get yourself another Z for cheap!

[tccrab]

Play with this guy as much as you can... I can't wait to see how this turns out! And, if in the slight chance that it's for real, you get yourself another Z for cheap!

If this was real the car would already be in my garage!!!
Imagine, a '95 ZR1 for $9850.
It would be worth sleeping on the couch for month or two!!:D:D


I'll keep you guys posted, so far nothing since the last email.

Tom

[CooperCorvettes]

I am Ron Cooper Jr from Cooper Corvettes and Performance Cars in Triangle, Va

This is our car. We own it. Its sitting outside my window this very second. It is advertised on our website and on cars.com for $28500 asking price.

I have been notified by several concerned people about this SCAM artist. I have reported him to autotrader.com and had the ad removed.

I also emailed this crook posing as a buyer. he sent me pics and write up and his military story about how he is leaving the country..

ALL the pictures of the car are pics I took right across the street from our dealership.

SO NOBODY SEND THIS CREEP ANY MONEY!

Car can be viewed on our website at www.coopercorvettes.com (http://www.coopercorvettes.com)

Thanks for bringing this to light everybody.

Ron Cooper Jr

[4DSZR1]

This is one interesting scam.... This guy has balls the size of grapefruits... frauding Corvettes and military service, whats next for this ahole.

[bobbyhi]

I am Ron Cooper Jr from Cooper Corvettes and Performance Cars in Triangle, Va




This is our car. We own it. Its sitting outside my window this very second. It is advertised on our website and on cars.com for $28500 asking price.

I have been notified by several concerned people about this SCAM artist. I have reported him to autotrader.com and had the ad removed.

I also emailed this crook posing as a buyer. he sent me pics and write up and his military story about how he is leaving the country..

ALL the pictures of the car are pics I took right across the street from our dealership.

SO NOBODY SEND THIS CREEP ANY MONEY!

Car can be viewed on our website at www.coopercorvettes.com (http://www.coopercorvettes.com)

Thanks for bringing this to light everybody.

Ron Cooper Jr


Thanks Ron for taking the time inform us about this scam:handshak: :thumbsup:

[djpatrick35]

What a joke! I'm glad you guys caught this before some poor fool paid their money... Way to go guys!

[phrogs]

Ok first email was just a basic email

here is second email

Hello,
Here is the VIN: 1g1yz22j9s5800367
The car is in excelent condition. The pictures show its exact shape. Garrage kept! This car runs and drives great. The transmission shifts like a dream. This vehicle's engine is in perfect working condition, no mechanical problems. Oil pressure is good. All mileage are highway mileage. No accidents. No paintwork. All power and optional equipment work perfectly. This vehicle is perfectly sound, no known defects. It has a clean exterior that looks new. Interior is clean and well taken care of. All electrical and optional equipment on this vehicle are in perfect working condition. You will receive the car along with all papers and recipts that you need, everything signed, ready to register it in you name. You will receive the TITLE, keys and owner manual. So you don't need to worry for extra money you would have to invest in it. (you have to consider that the car has 12 years on it....)

I am currently stationed in Florida with the Army National Guard. I WILL BE STAYING HERE FOR 3 MORE WEEKS BEFORE BEING DEPLOYED TO IRAQ AND I WANT TO SELL THE CAR FAST. I have the car here with me and I will ship it for free as long as you are located in the US. The military will help me with the delivery of the car. It takes 1 day to handle the shipping and 4 days to bring it to you. I hope this is not a problem. In case you want to buy the car I will only use a safe third party escrow service, that will secure both your money and me as the seller.
The total amount that you'd have to pay is $9480. I know that this is very cheap for such a car, but since I will staying in Iraq more than one year, I have to let her go.
Thank you



My email
What base are you on?
what escrow service do u use?
I still would like to see the car im in jacksonville no need to ship it
jp




His third email to me
I am sorry, but I really don't have time to meet you and complete the sell in person, but if you have the money and really want to buy my car we can use a safe escrow service. I have a friend at the base who sold his car over the internet through a safe escrow service. I want to use it too, because things worked out great for him and his buyer. They will secure the sell and will make sure that everything will go smooth.
Your money would not go to me, and you could inspect the car with a mechanic and take it for a test drive.
"Escrow Auto is the premier online escrow service on the internet. Escrow Auto enables two parties to engage in a sale without risk. Escrow Auto protects both the Buyer and Seller in a sale, because payment is not released until the item has been received. The entire process is secure and essential to anyone who regularly participates in online trade such as AutoTrader users."
Let me know, John Purcell


My next email to him

Hey John,
Just wondering whats your rank in the army and have you been to Iraq before that must be scary.


I looked for escrow auto and havent found a website yet do you have a link?

I would really like to come see the car is there any chance of that any at all?

jp




Cant wait for the rest of the emails this is fun.

[phrogs]

Latest email from him

JP,
I have been all the way to the border North, Badush, Jag, Tinderbox, Arrlington (near Spicher), the sea at al Basrah. been to Babylon, Hatra, the Zigurrat. Most or at least many bases too. Right now i am going to Wolf, over by Ramadii/Fallujah, (al Anbar province) setting it up to work for the EODT guys.

I want to use: www.escrow-auto.com (http://www.escrow-auto.com/) Please register and start a transaction.
Let me know how things are going.
Thank you, John


My email back to him.



why dont you do me a favor and email me on your army email.
it would be easier for my to contact you that way




Cant wait to see the responce on this email :sign10:

[djpatrick35]

This is great! Keep him going! Maybe you can somehow get where he lives and report him.

[phrogs]

First day this week that I havent had a email first thing from this guy..

Interesteing:rolleyes: