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65ZR1
12-29-2007, 06:40 PM
Just wondering what everyone is using for clutch bolts when upgrading to the fidanza flywheel. I remember seeing some bolts with more thread engagement somewhere. Is it necessary? :confused:

tccrab
12-29-2007, 06:52 PM
I've seen a write up with pics here somewhere...
Can't seem to find it.
I'll keep looking.

Aaaa Haaa!

Found it!

http://www.zr1netregistry.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1536

T

A26B
12-30-2007, 02:03 AM
Just wondering what everyone is using for clutch bolts when upgrading to the fidanza flywheel. I remember seeing some bolts with more thread engagement somewhere. Is it necessary? :confused:

Absolutely the smart move, for several reasons. The stock flywheel is iron & the Fidanza is aluminum. Aluminum has a higher thermal coefficient of expansion which means the bolt to thread clearance will increase with temp, more than iron will, and aluminum has a lower yield strength meaning it will deform more easily under torque and axial load imposed by tightening. All of this means the stock bolts with appx 1/2" less engagement than the aftermarket bolts are more likely to come loose.

Here's the link on where to get them. Just any old bolt that's longer is not good enough. There is a counterbore in the flywheel, sized to allow the shank of the bolt to sink below the face of the flywheel, reducing radial clearance and thereby preventing the bolts from moving. Use these bolts! They have been properly engineered for the job. I've used them.

http://www.zr1products.com/products.html


Ron Woods is an engineer, a first class ZR-1 driver and knows his stuff. We're buying his head studs and cylinders for our (Raptor's) new turbo boosted engine currently under construction.

Jerry

65ZR1
12-30-2007, 11:03 AM
I agree they are the way to go. The stock bolts thread engagement is minimal. I think 100 for 6 bolts is a little bit steep. Are they custom made or has he found an ARP bolt that fits this application? Im running a different pressure plate since Im using a T56. I wouldnt want to shell out 100 and find they dont work. Maybe I can give him a call. I found that three packages of torque converter bolts from ARP is what works for the flywheel to crank. If anyone would like the part number I can dig it up. Thanks for the help!

A26B
12-30-2007, 01:11 PM
Ron had the bolts custom made for him from ARP. Pkg also includes drill bit and tap. Bit & tap don't add much value, but I'm sure having the bolts custom made wasn't cheap. I didn't want to drop $100 either, but it was the wise choice in my opinion considering the possibilities. I'm old school and saw several clutch & flywheel explosions in the "old days."

Give Ron a call. He's more than glad to talk with you and share his knowledge.

I found the TQ Converter bolts too @ ARP and used them. I think they come in pkg of 3 or 6, cant remember for sure, but don't forget that you need 8 for the LT5.

I tend to get a little carried away sometimes, but a lot of folks use thread lock compound, but forget to clean & prime the bolt & tapped threads properly. Should use cleaner/primer made for thread lock compounds, otherwise the job is compromised.

Opps! Sorry for the rant. Saw you are tool & die guy. I used to own a machine shop many yrs ago. You're an expert on this stuff.

65ZR1
12-30-2007, 04:00 PM
Good advice. I will give Ron a call next week. No apologies necessary, too much info is never a bad thing!

Jagdpanzer
12-30-2007, 09:30 PM
Which ARP TQ converter bolts do you use?

65ZR1
12-31-2007, 09:39 AM
I just checked the catalogue. There are two applications with a 7/16 -20 bolt. I will have to see which ones I used. I will post it as soon as I can get out to the shop.

ZR1 MK
01-02-2008, 02:50 PM
I used Rons bolt kit too. See pics of the difference in bolt length at this link.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/418999/2

HADI-ZR1
01-02-2008, 06:37 PM
I used Rons bolt kit too. See pics of the difference in bolt length at this link.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/418999/2
Mike.
Which clutch brand is that ?
and what flywheel?
do you use longer or shorter bolts for this setup?

ZR1 MK
01-02-2008, 07:45 PM
I use a Fidanza flywheel with Spec Stage 2 Pressure Plate and Clutch. Thats zr1products.com longer bolts vs stock bolts. I use the longer with the Fidanza flywheel. Its a nice setup.

HADI-ZR1
01-02-2008, 08:23 PM
I use a Fidanza flywheel with Spec Stage 2 Pressure Plate and Clutch. Thats zr1products.com longer bolts vs stock bolts. I use the longer with the Fidanza flywheel. Its a nice setup.
and why you didnt use Centerforce Dual Friction?! :confused:
what the difference?

ZR1 MK
01-03-2008, 09:41 AM
and why you didnt use Centerforce Dual Friction?! :confused:
what the difference?
I heard about stuck weight issues with that unit. Could be poor installation rather than product, but I didnt take a chance. For my needs, I chose well.

65ZR1
01-13-2008, 04:19 PM
Which ARP TQ converter bolts do you use?

Finally found the package. The bolts for the fidanza flywheel are chevy torque converter bolts ARP #230-7303. They only come 3 to a package so you will need 3 packs.