Carbon-fiber hood,and other ZR1 parts...soon!

[HADI-ZR1]

P.S. i am working with Carbon-fiber HOOD project for ZR1, and Carbon-fiber upper plenum,Horn,and parts which goes to Filter.
front and rear Bumper (only 1990 Zr1) Carbon-fiber, we will produce them for guys who like to lower the weight and give better ET in drag racing,as well other kind of racing improvment.
the price will be lower than you can imagine. we want to market them, and give Zr1 the real performance.

i am already working on carbon-fiber hood with 2 custom duct (like Sledgehammer Callaway)for my 90 ZR1 Callaway Areobody.
any update with pictures,i will post it here. good luck to me!:o
Remember it will be Professional job. no jokes!!

[Bob G]

I Can't Wait Please Keep Us Posted , Thanks Bob

[Pete]

Very interested.
Like to see the Intake stuff can you make the ports 36-38mm

Will they be able to make a stock looking hood, i like the sleeper look.

Let us know how it goes.

Pete

[cuisinartvette]

For an intake you can also use the same composite material that LS intakes are made of, its light, stays cool and is portable .Eliminate the cooling passages, it will be cheaper to make. I spent a lot of time lookig into this, came close to doing them about a year ago.
I have the material info floating around somewhere and some people who can do imaging if you need. Thats not expensive, its the mold that costs.

[HADI-ZR1]

Very interested.
Like to see the Intake stuff can you make the ports 36-38mm

Will they be able to make a stock looking hood, i like the sleeper look.

Let us know how it goes.

Pete
the 36 mm will be best i think !.
dont you think 38 mm will be so big??:mrgreen:


the hood will be in any style you want.
mine will be with 2 open ducts in rear of hood. :cheers:
i know some like sleeper...
one of my idea was to make this front single Duct,and change and hook new filter to the horn,for better ram effect. but i will not do that,cuz i have Callaway front bumper and it will looks bad to me!
http://images.vetteweb.com/images/vemp_0601_18z+calloway_competition_facility+callow ay_lm_250.jpg
this is about same as 06Z06 front duct idea !but with little bit different style.

[HADI-ZR1]

For an intake you can also use the same composite material that LS intakes are made of, its light, stays cool and is portable .Eliminate the cooling passages, it will be cheaper to make. I spent a lot of time lookig into this, came close to doing them about a year ago.
I have the material info floating around somewhere and some people who can do imaging if you need. Thats not expensive, its the mold that costs.
Hey Ron,
can you send me the I.H and itake for that project?cuz i want drive my car ,cant let my car grounded long time :cry: .
Any idea about removing some stuff or eliminated will be nice guys, but just show me where is that in Pictures. i need to see it ,i am not Pro. in LT5 engine :redface:
the molding isnt easy job,specialy with Carbon-fiber work.
hope we will do it with my team. :thumbsup:

[carter200]

Good luck Hadi :thumbsup:

[cuisinartvette]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/kalthoff1/cooling.jpg


..Hmmm, was hoping it would show more of how its routed through the IH, Id have to go down stairs and go look at some loose ones I have laying around.

[HADI-ZR1]

cuisinartvette , Thanks bro. :wink:
:handshak:

[cuisinartvette]

IMO best to start with a ported intake/IH then do it up in the composite.

[Aurora40]

Neat on the hood. How much does the stock one weigh?

I always kind of wondered how much weight could be saved with different body panels. It's too bad some of that stuff wasn't feasible when the Z came out. Imagine it with an aluminum chassis and CF body panels.

Would the plenum just be to save weight? I still think it's interesting that there are basically no alternative intakes for the LT5. I don't know if that's a compliment on the original design, or a result of the small market for LT5 stuff.

[Jeffvette]

Neat on the hood. How much does the stock one weigh?

I always kind of wondered how much weight could be saved with different body panels. It's too bad some of that stuff wasn't feasible when the Z came out. Imagine it with an aluminum chassis and CF body panels.

Would the plenum just be to save weight? I still think it's interesting that there are basically no alternative intakes for the LT5. I don't know if that's a compliment on the original design, or a result of the small market for LT5 stuff.

Small market, and the cost to duplicate is pretty high. Sheet metal intakes are roughly around 2,500 and up. if you remember kirchoffer had the sheetmetal intake that was a one off design. It's to costly to make, and plus the story is the power to be had wasn't any better than a full boogie regular intake. So the only car you will see that on is Billy K's.

The nose cap could lose a little weight going to CF. The rear bumper would almost be nothing as it is already pretty light. Same with the doors, they are light once all the guts are out.

The big pieces would be the hood and then the rear deck. That's where all the weight is in the body of a C4.

Then you start working on the motor:
Injector housings are 7lbs each (after porting)
Plenum is 18lbs after porting

These three pieces alone are 32 lbs. Compare that to a 4 lb intake manifold for a C5/6 car.

[Pete]

If you can mold carbon fiber how about the bumber moldings (91-95)probably get more interest in those pieces.

Besides all the common weight savings,there is some weight savings if we had titanium screws for valve covers,IH's,plenum,vent cover,WP,PS,A/C,ALT,oil pan, etc.

Pete

[HADI-ZR1]

Jeff ,
i agree with you that Hood and bumper are most important!
but i have callaway arebody, so i dont want change that to CF.
but for 1990 Zr1 folks , i will mold it for who want it!
intake ,horn,..stuff for LT5 is an opition, it will look cool, and little bit lighter.i know!who got more money he pay:mrgreen:

i dont like sheet M. stuff :o
before 6 months, i long talk with engineer in Kinsler Fuel injection, i could and was ready to let KFI fabricat both IH and intake, and do it as here in that picture.
http://www.thewarfields.com/img/eng_05.jpg
but the power gain would be not so much, and cost of molding and fabricating stuff are VERY HIGH!!
cuz the LT5 manifold Design itself is super and powerful, so i let it!

and for those who like to supercharge or turbo the lt5 like me ,would be harder with KFI kit.
but the Lt5 Cabon-Fiber manifold will not be costly as KFI!

BTW , the front callaway bumper is 50% lighter than orignal C4 !!! :wink:
so with front CF bumper will be intersting!
did you hold the c4 front bumper and feel how heavy is it? http://images.corvetteforum.com/images/smilies/ack2.gif

JEFF do you know how much the hood weight? please.

[HADI-ZR1]

If you can mold carbon fiber how about the bumber moldings (91-95)probably get more interest in those pieces.

Besides all the common weight savings,there is some weight savings if we had titanium screws for valve covers,IH's,plenum,vent cover,WP,PS,A/C,ALT,oil pan, etc.

Pete
if i have the 91-95 bumper, i WILL do it CF for you. No problem.

Price would be $ 1800 for hood. with or without pair of ducts. P.S. (this price will be for first the 3 customers who will order it from me. the other will be $ 1950) .

the front 90 zr1 bumper = $ 1500
the rear 90 Zr1 bumper = $ 1600
i promise you guys, price could stay same or be lower, and Never going to be higher as i posted here!
-----------------
Price for the intake,valve cover,horn,... for LT5? , I let you know the price when these parts goes into program! :cheers:

[HADI-ZR1]

The Carbon fiber is a Quality stuff not that its just lighter.
thats why NASA space shuttle used it....:thumbsup:
see how the the CF work as thermal barriers in rocket element.
http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/RT1998/images/5950steinetz-f2.jpg
5500 °F oxyacetylene burn test. Time for burn through, 6.5 min!!:worship:

http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/RT1998/5000/5950steinetz.html

[HIZNHRZ]

Might be interested but would need to see fit and finish. Would rather pay $150 extra and know what I'm getting than lay out $1800 for something I might not be satisfied with.

No disrespect intended.

[HADI-ZR1]

Might be interested but would need to see fit and finish. Would rather pay $150 extra and know what I'm getting than lay out $1800 for something I might not be satisfied with.

No disrespect intended.
some paid $ 3000 for cf hood made in USA !
as i said , i will post the picture of CF hood from outer and inner side! so you will see how work dont to it, i will take picture also after install it into my ZR !:thumbsup:
dont worry.

[HADI-ZR1]

here is the hood ,we found the hood weight = 105 lbs. WE will reduce the weight to 30 lbs, with hood looking same as stock! :thumbsup:
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p183/hadi-zr1/DSC00184.jpg

here the picture of beast ...
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p183/hadi-zr1/DSC00194.jpg

[HADI-ZR1]

here is the place where the beast Callaway zr1 going to be born..
not any zr1 callaway, BUT it would be special as i always did to my Previous corvette!
...................Born to be wild.................
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p183/hadi-zr1/DSC00209.jpg

[GrayZ]

where is that exactly Hadi?? Looks kinda like,

" In a VAN, down by the river"

[HADI-ZR1]

where is that exactly Hadi?? Looks kinda like,

" In a VAN, down by the river"

its in Czech Rep. in city 20 miles from south of Germany.:wink:

[Zr1 Destroyer]

I did the Carbon Fiber super rise for my Zr1 and it's waaaaaay better looking now!

enjoy yours...

[Zr1 Destroyer]

Here's a pic of mine after paint. What size cowl did you go with Hadi?
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e396/ry368/Nova-Zr1shots016.jpg

[Aurora40]

I wonder what a realistic weight goal is for a car that still has everything functional and presentable? I.e. not gutted. Would ~3300 lbs be reasonable for a car with an in-tact interior and still toting a spare? Or is that dreaming?

[HADI-ZR1]

Here's a pic of mine after paint. What size cowl did you go with Hadi?
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e396/ry368/Nova-Zr1shots016.jpg
:p why you raise the hood in that way man !!!??
the hood of mine will be standard , with only 25 lbs . orginal is 105 lbs.
the front bumper (for callaway) is 25% less weigh from original 90zr F.B .:thumbsup:

[HADI-ZR1]

I wonder what a realistic weight goal is for a car that still has everything functional and presentable? I.e. not gutted. Would ~3300 lbs be reasonable for a car with an in-tact interior and still toting a spare? Or is that dreaming?
i dont need spare.:wink: , the interior going to be carbon fiber as well, but still looks like orginal and better than crap GM plastic and rubber....! but we still thinking of the way to do it in good shape.

the upper manifold and horn,and stuff goes to air filer is going to be CF too..:mrgreen:
NOT EASY THING TO DO,BUT I WILL NOT GIVE UP!
the seat going to be replaced with racing seat!

Even the roof i will going to CF it. after casting !
my ZR weight is not going to be same as Z06 , BUT surely would be light ZR!

the callaway front bumper weight can be reduced 50% if done with Carbon F. ,
but any small damage to the bumper will be hard to fix (technicaly isue). so
i will leave originaly Callaway front.:rolleyes:

[HADI-ZR1]

Zr1 Destroyer,
will you do a favor for me??:wink:
can you weight your car if your hood is CF!
exchange info will be nice.:mrgreen:

[Pete]

Hadi,
Can you do a lil better on the price if i were interested in 3-4 hoods.
The cheaper the price the more i could possible buy.

Or maybe do a group purchase for the ZR1NetRegistry Members

Pete

[HADI-ZR1]

Hadi,
Can you do a lil better on the price if i were interested in 3-4 hoods.

Or maybe do a group purchase.

Pete
Pete ,
belive me i will do my best.
let see when my hood finished, then we will talk, but you should know what i get $$ from the hood or other produced parts is nothing!! :???:
and dont forget you should pay for shippment to USA! so if you see CF hood in USA which is less than
my total price , then i advice you, buy it from State.
what i promise you, is : Professional job and super finishing for what you pay!

[Pete]

Hadi let me know what they will wiegh after all done.

Just a question, will these use the stock hood hinges and locking latch pins or hood pins/zeus fittings.

Pete

[HADI-ZR1]

Hadi let me know what they will wiegh after all done.

Just a question, will these use the stock hood hinges and locking latch pins or hood pins/zeus fittings.

Pete
The weight as i said will be 35 lbs. , so it will be 75 lbs less than original hood! .
YES it will use the stock hood hinges and locking latch pins :thumbsup:

[Pete]

Thanks Hadi
Keep me/us posted on the progress and lots of pictures of the finished product.

Pete

[frank12]

Really interested in to buy and to be able to reduce the weight.
Do I live in Barcelona / Spain, your you indicate that you live in Cerka Republika, above Austria, where in Praha?
My idea for the transport would be to catch my Pontiac TransSport and to pick up it personally.
As much as it would cost me the I ship Barcelona?
If you indicate me the exact address, I can ask to my habitual transport company as much as it can cost me,

[HADI-ZR1]

Really interested in to buy and to be able to reduce the weight.
Do I live in Barcelona / Spain, your you indicate that you live in Cerka Republika, above Austria, where in Praha?
My idea for the transport would be to catch my Pontiac TransSport and to pick up it personally.
As much as it would cost me the I ship Barcelona?
If you indicate me the exact address, I can ask to my habitual transport company as much as it can cost me,
you are welcome to come over there and pick the hood! Great Idea!!
when you pay for hood then i give you the adress to pick up.Lets wait till
my hood finished. then post some pictures.

P.S you where in Corvette Meeting in Prague this year?? it was in 21 July.
:cheers:

[HADI-ZR1]

How about this would be your engine!!:icon_scra

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p183/hadi-zr1/zr2copycopy.jpg

[Zr1 Destroyer]

:p why you raise the hood in that way man !!!??:mrgreen:
the hood of mine will be standard , with only 25 lbs . orginal is 105 lbs.
the front bumper (for callaway) is less weight 25% from original 90zr F.B .:thumbsup:Hmmmmmm....i'll have to get it on a scale before i put it back over the 415!

Here's where i got mine from....nice people!

http://www.toledopro.com/vette-hoods.html

[Z Factor]

Hmmmmmm....i'll have to get it on a scale before i put it back over the 415!

Here's where i got mine from....nice people!

http://www.toledopro.com/vette-hoods.html

As I recall, their Hi-Rise hoods are about 77 pounds. A functioning cowl induction produces air to the engine compartment reducing heat. So it might make sense to look at producing it in CF. Maybe a collaboration with them? Food for thought.

:cheers:

[HADI-ZR1]

Z,
you can creat CF Stock profil hood and use 2 open Ducts as Callaway did to TT 900 hp Corvette
this will reduce under hood temperature :cheers:

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p183/hadi-zr1/cotms14.jpg

[HADI-ZR1]

Hadi let me know what they will wiegh after all done.

Pete
Pete,
the CF hood wiegh 35-40 lbs .

[HADI-ZR1]

Hadi let me know what they will wiegh after all done.

Pete
Pete,
the CF hood weigh 35-40 lbs .

[TommyL]

http://www.exoticmuscle.com/webpage.php?EMCAT=vette&MENU=SHOWPARTS&CATSEL=BODY

Carbon hoods can be bought here!

[HADI-ZR1]

http://www.exoticmuscle.com/webpage.php?EMCAT=vette&MENU=SHOWPARTS&CATSEL=BODY

Carbon hoods can be bought here!
Tommy,
Be careful making deal with fraud business Guy like you show us here!
how easy to make website but hard to be clean and not be a liar!!:o

I want from exoticmuscle $ 1140 since 2005(for Flywheel,and racing clutch) ,the funny thing ,Merle said the parts Lost..., But still he cant prove to BBB and me the paper that he send these parts !!:mrgreen:

FYI , more than 2 years he was ignoring my calls,and Emails.
Read this thread ...
http://zr1netregistry.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4226&highlight=exotic+muscle

[bradslt5]

hadi is telling the truth here. i have tried to call them on his behalf and they never returned one single call

[TommyL]

I have never delt with them but thanks for the advice. I do however have a friend that has purchased a few items from Exotic Muscle including the lightweight hood with no issues.

[Nick]

Very interesting and ambitious project, Hadi. I congratulate you on the effort. Can't wait to see the final results. :thumbsup:

[Zr1 Destroyer]

Nice!!!! That lexan rear window looks pretty cool too!
http://www.exoticmuscle.com/vette/images/C5010.jpg

[HADI-ZR1]

what i want to produce is best quality and great finishing
CF hood . :wink:


The Fraud person know how to play his game with ppl .

p.s Merle Hrady know what i wrote here about him last time,if he is a man,
then let him show off here and say different story than i said.
but he will not!

[Sgreg]

Might be somewhere in these posts but I didn't see it-- does the CF hood come painted or raw ?

[Sgreg]

Hadi-

Are you painting the hoods or are they going to come raw ??

[HADI-ZR1]

Hadi-

Are you painting the hoods or are they going to come raw ??
I still didnt finish my Hood ! When it finish, then i take picture of it,
and post it here.
and ofcourse it will be Raw for who want CF hood from me!

[HADI-ZR1]

thanks bro. , you too brad, and all who miss me :mrgreen: . I miss you all guys.

i had operation to my eye, this is 3rd operation since i was 9 Years old,its more than 14 days and i feel pain , Perfosor said i must wait at least 3 weeks till thing get better and know the results.
i am still missing driving my Z , need at least 4 weeks to finish the body work and paint. i spend little time with my Zr1 and job done slowly, cuz my eye problem.
and magor problem my team miss understand me, ohh god czech ppl,,, they thought i told them if the Hood weight Not less than 9 kg, i want them to stop produce it(talking czech is very hard:icon_scra). all i remember i told them i want the hood less than 16 kg!!. as i estimated it with 3 layer CF!

Btw, the Carbon Fiber price get higher 30 % ,VERY BAD news. they said because Production of AIR BUS company in Europe...:blahblah:
CF hood cost me $ 3000 including Forming!
:cheers:

[bradslt5]

.hey they pards good to hear from you . i will keep an eye out for ya now:mrgreen: got to pm ya something ,look for it

[HADI-ZR1]

the Zr1 width now : 75.60 inch. its less 0.3 inch than C6ZO6 = 75.90 ".
( with primer and color coat should add another 4-6 mm .) i will Measure it when the car completed !
I could go same or wider than that. but i didnt want the car looks ugly, bigger isnt better:rolleyes:
The rear quarter were 60% custom Molding.

[bradslt5]

hadi do you do your own paint and body?