A question for the longtime owners.

[Z51JEFF]

http://https://i.postimg.cc/N9zCMv0p/IMG-8087.jpg (https://postimg.cc/N9zCMv0p)How often do you think about selling the car? I really want a new C8 but my Z would have to go and when it comes down to it I don't think I could let it go. I've had the car for going on 18 years and still really dig the car. It sits in the garage 99% of the time,I might put 100 on it in 12 months but a new Corvette would be nice,pay it off before I retire. I've also got a 75 convertible with 12,600 original miles that would also have to go. Selling the 75 would be easy to key go,not loosing my a$$ on what I've got into it would be a challenge. I haven't done anything to my Z other than clean it up and get it out of the garage when I get the itch and I can honestly tell ya,the thrill never left😁

[HAWAIIZR-1]

Fortunately for me I never think about selling my Z because I don?t like anything newer, especially the C8 of all of them. Maybe you could rent a C8 to see if you REALLY even want one. So you would daily the C8 if you had one then do it. Why is the Z always sitting? Drive it as it is meant to and enjoy it. Why did you buy the 75? Don?t you also have an old bug too? Cars don?t like to sit period so I learned that from all my years of military and traveling the world. Only 3 more months to retire and I?m driving my Z as often as I can and prepping it to tour Japan.

I guess I got obsessed with the C4 ZR-1 because of this group and nothing else matters for me. No desires regardless of faster, newer, or better handling etc. Sorry, I guess I?m the wrong person to answer your question. I could care less about preserving value. I don?t see any of the other cars as special with this history, but that is just me. Best wishes in your decision.


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[Z51JEFF]

Fortunately for me I never think about selling my Z because I don?t like anything newer, especially the C8 of all of them. So you would daily the C8 if you had one then do it. Why is the Z always sitting? Drive it as it is meant to and enjoy it. Why did you buy the 75? Don?t you also have an old bug too? Cars don?t like to sit period so I learned that from all my years of military and traveling the world. Only 3 more month to retire and I?m driving my Z as often as I can and prepping it to tour Japan.

I guess I got obsessed with the C4 ZR-1 because of this group and nothing else matters for me. No desires regardless of faster, newer, or better handling etc. Sorry, I guess I?m the wrong person to answer your question. I could care less above preserving value. I don?t see any of the other cars as special with this history, but that is just me. Best wishes in your decision.


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The Z sits because it's too hard to get it out of the garage with all my crap in there. The 75 was too good to pass up and the Bug was an impulse buy. I got more cars than brains😁 Orher than a new C8 the only other car I'd look at is a C6 ZR1.

[WARP TEN]

While I very much agree with Craig on what he said, I am one long term C4 ZR-1 owner who did sell my Z to get a newer Corvette. I bought a '93 in 1994 and owned it for 13 years and 70,000 miles. I sold it to a Registry member because we were moving into a 2 car garage. I later figured out I could put a lift in and bought a '95. Had Marc do his 510 hp package among other things. But in 2016 I decided to order a C7 Z06. I loved the look and power, and at my age (then 70) I figured after probably 50 or 60 mostly stick shift used high performance, sports and antique cars I deserved an automatic and a warranty. I've since put almost 30,000 miles on it and I like it better than the C8 so I plan to keep it a while (although not sure how long, as my boy racer days are pretty much over). Still keep my hand in with the ZR-1 group by attending get togethers, having lunch with Marc and others roughly once a month and staying on the forum. And when I pick Marc up for our lunches he always wants to drive the Z06. Says he loves the power and the automatic. So go which ever way you want to. No wrong answer to this one. -- Bob


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[We Gone]

Have owned 5 so far told myself would never sell any of them... But along came that magic number and the adventure stars over.

[Z51JEFF]

I have been throwing around the idea of hunting down a silver set of BBS RS wheels. That is in my opinion the best looking wheel for these cars. The wheel is classic and it fits the car. I found a used set of 17-9.5 but the guy wanted $6000. I like the wheels but not at that price then have to have the rears widened on top of $6000,I'll pass. Just how hard would it be to find a set,put together a set? There's a wheel shop in Sweden that can build these wheel but the price wouldn't work by the time they got over here. Brain storming now.

[aafc]

I have my 1990 ZR-1 since April ,1994 , 39,450 miles. Now has over 148,000
miles plus. As far as making your wheels wider. Contact Weldcraftwheels.com
I sent them my 1990 front rims and they narrowered them to 6 in wlde.
I'am sure they can make your rims wider.
1990 ZR-1 white/black # 2546
one of a few 4l8OE eq ZR-1's
John

[HAWAIIZR-1]

The Z sits because it's too hard to get it out of the garage with all my crap in there. The 75 was too good to pass up and the Bug was an impulse buy. I got more cars than brains[emoji16] Orher than a new C8 the only other car I'd look at is a C6 ZR1.



I hear that Jeff. We all have our individual reasons so just do what makes you happy. I know when I get rid of my Z I will probably get a Mercedes than any Corvette; I fell in love with those cars and always my daily driver lately. It will be an AMG model of course. Nice toys you have and so much to decide. I love the C6Z too, but would never want to own one. The bug is sweet so can?t blame you and I love my VWs too. About the BBS RS, YES! That would be nice to find.


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[Mikey]

I have only heard from car guys about the cars they used to have that they wish they still had. So I decided I won?t sell cars and only buy cars. But if in the process of acquiring cars and subsequently enjoying them, if I realize I?ve lost the desire to drive another car in the collection only then I will sell it.
This logic really can apply to any budget and any size garage. Be sure you like the next car enough to sell the last car. And if you struggle to decide which you like better then keep both. Where there is a will there?s a way.

[HAWAIIZR-1]

While I very much agree with Craig on what he said, I am one long term C4 ZR-1 owner who did sell my Z to get a newer Corvette. I bought a '93 in 1994 and owned it for 13 years and 70,000 miles. I sold it to a Registry member because we were moving into a 2 car garage. I later figured out I could put a lift in and bought a '95. Had Marc do his 510 hp package among other things. But in 2016 I decided to order a C7 Z06. I loved the look and power, and at my age (then 70) I figured after probably 50 or 60 mostly stick shift used high performance, sports and antique cars I deserved an automatic and a warranty. I've since put almost 30,000 miles on it and I like it better than the C8 so I plan to keep it a while (although not sure how long, as my boy racer days are pretty much over). Still keep my hand in with the ZR-1 group by attending get togethers, having lunch with Marc and others roughly once a month and staying on the forum. And when I pick Marc up for our lunches he always wants to drive the Z06. Says he loves the power and the automatic. So go which ever way you want to. No wrong answer to this one. -- Bob


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Hey Bob! Always good to hear from you. I guess I have not thought that far out, but if you ask me this question when I am 70 I'm pretty sure I wont have my Z by then so I totally understand. By then I surely don't want to be cursing at my car and rather just wash, gas, and drive to enjoy. Retirement, retirement is around the corner in little over 90 days so my mindset should change then. I need to get a more geezer appropriate vehicle at some point. Take care and I hope our paths cross again soon. Maybe at Carlisle this year? Aloha!

[Vetman]

I?ve owned mine since 2012, so don?t know if that qualifies as long term. I only think of selling when I get my 76 year old body in and out of the z. But the the drive between the in and out convinces me to keep it. I try to drive it once a week.

I made a list of every car I have owned since I was 16. Of the 36 cars 19 were special interest cars which I would love to have back, however had I not sold each I wouldn?t have been able to get the next. Been a gear head since age 6 when my father built me a go cart with a one cyclinder gas washing machine engine and a 1939 Chevy three speed transmission mounted on its side with a pulley/belt welded to the input shaft and a chain gear welded to the output shaft. I was the envy of every kid in the neighborhood!!

[WARP TEN]

Hey Bob! Always good to hear from you. I guess I have not thought that far out, but if you ask me this question when I am 70 I'm pretty sure I wont have my Z by then so I totally understand. By then I surely don't want to be cursing at my car and rather just wash, gas, and drive to enjoy. Retirement, retirement is around the corner in little over 90 days so my mindset should change then. I need to get a more geezer appropriate vehicle at some point. Take care and I hope our paths cross again soon. Maybe at Carlisle this year? Aloha!

Hmmmmm. 90 days until retirement, but who's counting? Well once you do retire you will love it. Maybe even get a chance to come over and visit us in the states. For seven years in what I call my "early retirement" period I sold BMWs for a local dealer and had a lot of fun (but earned very little money). Then fully retired in 2014 and have enjoyed it all the time. And knowing you I am sure you will continue you involvement in cars. And you can still have fun with them. After all, my "geezer appropriate vehicle" has 650 HP, 650 ft. lbs. of torque and according to GM does 0-60 in 2.95 seconds. With its automatic, it is my daily driver most of the summer. Last year the Z06 came down April 1 and didn't go up for its winter nap until November1. I put 5,000 miles a year on it and just run it through a car wash when needed. No strain at all, except maybe getting in and out. When that gets too tough, maybe it will be time.... But for the moment it comes down off the lift as soon as I get back from a couple weeks in Florida. Aloha!--Bob

[tccrab]

I've owned my '90 ZR-1 for over 20 years now.
In that time I've put less than 9,000 miles on it.
Every time I drive it I risk serious jail time.
That being said, it's the funnest car I've ever owned.
I was raised in a car dealership, my dad ran a Toyota dealership in the 70's and the 80's.
My older brother and I got to pick and choose from all the cars that people traded in during the original OPEC oil crisis.
I've had the pleasure of owning nearly all the muscle cars you could think of.
Something would come into the lot, I'd say, Cool!!!, buy it, drive it for a while until the next would come in, I'd sell the first and move into the next.
Never had a Hemi though, always wanted one but never had the opportunity (nor the cash, but that's another story).

Both of my boys have asked who gets the ZR-1 when I'm gone.

I've told both of them they'd have to pry the keys out of my cold stiff fingers.

I'm pretty sure they understand.
;-)

'Crabs

[WARP TEN]

I've owned my '90 ZR-1 for over 20 years now.
In that time I've put less than 9,000 miles on it.
Every time I drive it I risk serious jail time.
That being said, it's the funnest car I've ever owned.
I was raised in a car dealership, my dad ran a Toyota dealership in the 70's and the 80's.
My older brother and I got to pick and choose from all the cars that people traded in during the original OPEC oil crisis.
I've had the pleasure of owning nearly all the muscle cars you could think of.
Something would come into the lot, I'd say, Cool!!!, buy it, drive it for a while until the next would come in, I'd sell the first and move into the next.
Never had a Hemi though, always wanted one but never had the opportunity (nor the cash, but that's another story).

Both of my boys have asked who gets the ZR-1 when I'm gone.

I've told both of them they'd have to pry the keys out of my cold stiff fingers.

I'm pretty sure they understand.
;-)

'Crabs

Cars have come and gone through my life. I am like you Crabs-I have had a lot of sports, antique and high performance cars, now down to just the Z06. I did have the opportunity to own a '68 Hemi Roadrunner, though, and I assure you it was indeed fun. Bought it used from a friend's cousin. Drove it from New York to LA and had it for two years there, but as a young kid just out of college, I naturally ran out of money and had wholesale it when I was down to just one six pack of beer in the fridge. But I will never forget being at a stoplight on Wilshire Blvd when a car load of teens pulled up with their noses pressed against the window and pointing at the word "HEMI" on the hood. Ran it at Lions Dragway and trapped a 13.5/105 on Firestone Wide Ovals. A real blast. I miss my ZR-1s as much as the Hemi.--Bob

[Karl]

I have thought about getting a C6 ZR1 but ever since the engine upgrade I really have not thought about selling it much.

[XfireZ51]

This is my second ZR since 2007 having owned this one now since 2010. The chassis has 165k on the ODO but literally everything underneath and engine has about 55k or less on it. It pretty much has all the upgrades I can think of while still keeping a stock displacement. It is a blast to drive. In previous times I have sold the car after I have been done ?evolving? it. Would love a C8, but my interest in having a ME car with DOHC, puts it out of financial range. Maybe in a few years used C8 Zs will become affordable. Although honestly the new Vettes especially C7 and C8 are as big as sedans. So used Cayman is a possibility.
Altho something like this w an LT5 or MMR SB-4 would be a total blast.

[rufcar]

I acquired my 90 Z this time last year on a whim. I, like others here, have had a lot of cars 101 last count. I have been restoring them a long time but more so since retirement in 2010 (I'm 74) When I get 10 -12 cars or not driving them then they go. Last spring I sold 3. Then won best in show at our national Rolls meet and immediately sold the Bentley. I bought a 65 GTO I'm finishing and the 90 ZR-1. It had many upgrades 100 more HP a zf doc gear box and the owner was a GM wrench, so everything was new. I fixed the a/c and went back to r12. repaired the frame sensors painted both bumpers found all the missing items including a NOS set of salad spinners and waiting for that special windshield to make it 100%. I have driven it appox 1500 miles or more since last spring and love it as its just darn cool and different. In the collection I have an 08 Z06 Wil Cooksey and an all original 427 66 4 speed with most every option. I am now jonesin for a 2019 Zr-1 and either the z06 or the 66 will go as it will again be to many cars but the 90zr1 will stay. I do not like the center engine cars. at 180 lbs and 6ft tall i do not fit comfortably. I have a good pal who recently bought a new z06. He told me the other day he just does not like it. Though he did buy a 2019 ZR1 with 1100 hp and loves that along with his huge collection of vetts.
I guess it just a personal thing like women, beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

[zyal8r]

Hi Jeff - I've been around CF for 25 years (with my LT4 for 23 of those years) and although I only started posting here when I bought my ZR-1 in August, 2021, I guess I have some longevity with these cars. I won't sell my LT4 and I will not sell my ZR-1. I know I would absolutely regret it.

My dad traded cars frequently, and honestly I lost track of how many, but I recall most of his cars, including 14 Corvettes. There were always some special ones he wished he had back... including his '68 Charger R/T (who doesn't), a couple of the Corvettes, Street Hemi, to name a few. I swore I would never say "I wish I hadn't sold that one," within reason. I miss my '95 Z28 and my '98 5.9 Grand Cherokee, but I had to make some choices with each of those. My LT4 and ZR-1 are extremely special to me for a variety of reasons.

Only you know how important your car is to you. A lot of people say "it's just a car," but I attach memories to them. I took my dad with me to buy my LT4, that was truly special. We talked about ZR-1s for many years and he never got one. Mine was partially for that reason, and partially something I'd wanted since the early '90s before I could drive. Both were an honest goal stemming from that special poster of the yellow '72 Corvette I had on my desk ever since I could remember.

Not sure this helps, but, I'd say, go to great lengths to keep it if it brings you joy.

Mike

[DRM500RUBYZR-1]

A loaded question if ever there was one.

We tend to obsess over our toy cars.
We drive them infrequently.
We try to keep them perfect in every way, which plays a major role in their propensity to stay garaged.
Now there are exceptions to the above, but usually measured in degree as opposed to opposite use.
Much of the "FUN" has to do as much with the care as it does with the driving.

To utilize a Toy Car as a daily driver is the dream of many.
Some do and love it.
Others try and hate it.
They can't stand the dirt, the risk when parked and the overall heightened worry about their special toy.
Heck, I and others are that way with our daily driver that is not a specialty car, and this ramps up significantly if the car is new or special.

In the mid 90's, I drove my first ZR-1 (now Charlie Dredge guys beauty) as a daily driver. I loved it, sort of..................
Not real comfortable in a suit.
Don't roll the window down on a rainy day unless you want to look like you peed.
Fear of theft, damage, gawkers riding your tail at 80, and every delinquent young or old wanting to race all of time anywhere.
But the worst?
Waking up Saturday morning and seeing the dirt and now having to spend hours trying to restore perfection, only to go through it all again the next week.
Such use eventually simply sucked the fun out of the equation.

I have helped many sell their c-1 to c-6 to buy a C-7 or a C-8.
If they drove the earlier car as a toy, many missed having the perfect toy, even though they found the new car to be so technically superior to the older one.

Now, everyone is different, but the ideal solution seems to be, keeping your "toy" and adding a "newer" daily.
Now the newer daily can be a 140k Z06, or it can be a C-5 costing 15k, a C-6 costing 30k, or a C-7 or C-8.
But some of those end up with two "toys". I did. Mistake.

We always think the "new" car brings new fun.
Sometimes it just does not after the initial glow is gone.

My Malibu daily with every feature available is a VERY pleasant daily driver.
I don't have to dive down into it or pull myself up out of it. The sound system humbles that of my ZR-1, the cross traffic alert is great as are all of the other aids and gadgets.
Sure I could get all of that on a c-7 or C-8 but it comes with (guilt?) of daily drives and the feeling that I am not caring for the car the way I want to.

Keep the ZR-1.

Buy and try a toy daily.
A HIPO late model Mustang, A CTS Blackwing, or even an older Chevrolet SS might also be a consideration as they are all MUCH easier to get in and out of and yet can still put your eyeballs in the back of your head whenever you desire.

I hope this helps some of you.

I tended to get LOTS of calls from guys and gals that sold their older toys and found out they missed them and sort of regretted letting them go.........
and looked for another.....................
and so it goes.......
:cheers:
Marty

[XfireZ51]

Marty,

If I bought a C8 I know I would?t be wrenching on it. The ZR is one of the last generations that a ?shade tree? guy like me can play w and modify. That is certainly a big part of the fun.

[Jagdpanzer]

Agree with Dom.
Difficult engine access keeps me in check on my C8. Just the opposite situation on the C4 ZR-1. Full engine bay access without have to remove the Hood.


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[secondchance]

Agree with Dom.
Difficult engine access keeps me in check on my C8. Just the opposite situation on the C4 ZR-1. Full engine bay access without have to remove the Hood.


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No worries Phil. Rig a hoist on the garage ceiling. I?ll go in from the top. Just tell me what to do.:)

[secondchance]

I have been driving C4 ZR-1s since October 1991, current 94 being my second one. Truly fortunate to be able to get a 2022 Z51 without having to lose my 94. Both are my toys but I am one of those who insist on driving my toys as my daily drivers. As such, I have 182,000 miles on my 94 and 13,000 on my 22. Having a 20 year old BMW coupe for rainy days help tremendously.:cheers:

[dredgeguy]

Yun, I can just see you hanging upside down being lowered into Phil's C8 engine bay, ha ha!
Marty, your car is being enjoyed for sure and now have 114,000 miles on it. With ceramic coating and Xpel film on the hood, keeping it clean is easy, just takes a couple of minutes to get it ready for cars and coffee or a car show. When you have the Wazoo brotherhood in the area to keep it running like new, you can relax and enjoy it. I have a 2016 Volvo S60-R Special Edition as my daily.

[tiegsd]

Only had my ZR-1 for 7 years, but have had my 2002 Tacoma since new. Ive been to hell and back with that Tacoma. I t boned a deer in 2020 and she sat for a couple years just doing odd jobs around my property, had multiple offers from random folks to buy even in her banged up condition, but just couldn't part with her. She' all fixed up now and back on the road, but I rarely drive her (have a Tundra daily driver). At some point the Tacome will become the focus of upgrade/restoration efforts, right now its the ZR-1. Neither one is going anywhere. The ZR-1 is my Ferarri Testarossa, so to speak, and a bit of a resue operation. Some days I just like to admire it, and driving it is a joyful experience that I doubt I could replicate at this point as my interest in the ZR-1 spans 30 years and hasnt waned. I also am original owner of several fine motorcycles from the mid to late 2000s which i like to take to shows and to the track. This stuff keeps me grounded and sane i think.

Side note Ive attempted retirement twice now and found i wasnt ready ;D

Just one mans thoughts for comparison sake .

[Vette Guy]

Never thought about it.... I still find the ZR-1 wildly fun and incredibly rewarding to drive!

Regards,
Mark

[1977CamaroZ28]

Never thought about it.... It's my first Corvette, my first ZR-1 and, in addition, here in Spain ZR-1 are more rare cars than in the USA yet!

What is more, when I can, I'm looking to buy another ZR-1. One 93 40th Anniversary.

C4 ZR-1 are like an obsession when you taste them.