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RichieDMD
08-26-2021, 11:17 PM
So, I'm looking at a 1995 ZR-1 to possibly purchase. Seller says both key fobs are broken. I've been looking online for replacement options and haven't found much. Can replacements be found and if so are they hard to find?

GOLDCYLON
08-27-2021, 01:24 AM
Here is my advise

look on corvette forum in the c4 parts for sale section as they pop up from time to time. There are different styles of fobs. You will need a two button fob that locks and unlocks the doors and has a button for the hatch. There are 1 button fobs out there that are for convertibles. Also the later fobs are the style that are most desirable and they have a screw on the back of the fob to replace the battery and keep the half's together. The early units snap together and have to be gently pryed apart to open them. Good luck. GC :cheers:

RichieDMD
08-27-2021, 10:24 AM
Can you still get them from a dealer?

DRM500RUBYZR-1
08-27-2021, 01:39 PM
Negative on the dealer availability.
Also, C-4 ZR-1's that used a fob, i.e. 93-95, only came with a single fob, not two from the factory.
You can buy replacement cases if just the case is broken.
I would add that the electronics rarely fail.
The rubber buttons may deteriorate, but otherwise it is usually the case that fails.
Many do not understand or correctly follow the programming instructions, and sometimes the car is "difficult" to communicate with.
Good luck with your search.
:cheers:
Marty

GOLDCYLON
08-27-2021, 03:34 PM
Can you still get them from a dealer?

No hence the suggestion on Corvette Forum or perhaps EBay :cheers:

zyal8r
08-27-2021, 04:41 PM
Hi Rich. In the C4 parts for sale on Corvette Forum, there is a guy selling three refurbished fobs. I believe he wants $325. Looks like one just sold, actually.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c4-parts-for-sale-wanted/4557671-pke-fobs-93-96-qty-3-for-sale.html

I'm contemplating one as the '95 I just bought (will be transported shortly!) only has one. My '96 came with two and I thought generally that these cars came with two.

BTW I've been watching your post the last few weeks - I think you've found a nice car at a good price, given the market. There is a '95 red (#23) newly posted on the zr1.net classifieds with 61k miles for $35k. A '95 green/tan (#277) was just posted on Autotrader for $26,900, FYI as well.

Mike

DRM500RUBYZR-1
08-27-2021, 10:10 PM
Provided more specifics on PKE fobs in my earlier post.
:cheers:
Marty

zyal8r
08-27-2021, 11:13 PM
Marty, interesting info! I didn't know C4 ZR-1s didn't have two fobs... any idea why? Didn't all non-ZR-1s come with two? My '96 has two, I'm the second owner but have owned it over 20 years.

Thanks for sharing!

Mike

Demps
08-27-2021, 11:45 PM
Mike, is a yellow '95 being shipped?

The coupe fob has two buttons (door & hatch); convertible has one (door).

A second fob was a $100 option. One of the few things I've found unique on a window sticker.

Ted

HAWAIIZR-1
08-28-2021, 02:13 AM
My 95 Z also came with two key fobs, but I am the third owner so maybe an extra fob was purchased?

This guy in the video stated they come with two key fobs and he mentioned it twice. When I had my 90 Z, I bought a GM NOS keyless entry system to upgrade to, but I gave up after thinking it might be above my skill level to install.

https://youtu.be/X8DhGSNSga4


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zyal8r
08-28-2021, 08:48 AM
Mike, is a yellow '95 being shipped?

The coupe fob has two buttons (door & hatch); convertible has one (door).

A second fob was a $100 option. One of the few things I've found unique on a window sticker.

Ted

Hi Ted. Yes, Sir! #004, yellow/black! Will post details in members thread after I get it, it's supposed to arrive tomorrow. I can't wait! :cheers:

So odd on the fob, It makes no sense they would make that an option on ZR-1s but you guys must be right. The black/black on BaT only had one as well, it looks like. Learn something new every day!

... looks like two of the three fobs on the CF thread are sold at $325!

Mike

HAWAIIZR-1
08-28-2021, 09:19 PM
Mike, is a yellow '95 being shipped?



The coupe fob has two buttons (door & hatch); convertible has one (door).



A second fob was a $100 option. One of the few things I've found unique on a window sticker.



Ted


Ted,

Thanks for the info. A friend that owned his 95 ZR-1 since new also confirmed he only received one PKE fob at new delivery.

You would think one paying $65-$100K+ for these cars new back then they could throw in an extra key fob. Every car I have every bought came with two. But the General must have figured we don?t want anyone else to be able to drive the car so one is all you need. [emoji38]

Aloha,

Craig


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DRM500RUBYZR-1
08-31-2021, 12:34 PM
Mike, is a yellow '95 being shipped?

The coupe fob has two buttons (door & hatch); convertible has one (door).

A second fob was a $100 option. One of the few things I've found unique on a window sticker.

Ted

Ted,
I am intrigued by your experience with a second fob on your ZR-1.
I will add that you are one of the few people I would believe about such things.

Having had my own ZR-1 judged multiple times as well as helping others do the same, we have all been through the rigors of what the car comes from the factory with.
NCRS manuals stipulate one fob.
The owners manual states shipped with one fob.
However, it would be conceivable that if there was an RPO for a second fob, AND if someone knew that, and ordered it that way, there could be a car or cars that indeed did come from the factory with more than one fob.
If you have the window sticker that shows it as a factory option, please share it with us as that would be a significant discovery.
If you have the build sheet, it too would show an RPO for an added fob, which again would be an important discovery.
Not trying to prove my NCRS friends wrong, rather would love to see them have access to this information as today, all 93-96 Corvettes are expected to have only the one PKE.
The owners manual goes on to state that up to three additional PKE's can be programmed, yet it makes no mention of this as an available option.
Thanks for your help!
Some view these things as piddly, but to those who chase Top Flights, they are very meaningful little things about the car that they love!
:cheers:
Marty

Demps
08-31-2021, 01:21 PM
Marty,
My memory was off--$45 option. I have the build sheet too...somewhere. I was amazed at what I sorted through to find this. I may have a problem. Our new house has poor storage & I have things stuffed everywhere. I will hopefully find the build sheet this weekend.
Ted

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Check page 4...while not official....
https://www.gmheritagecenter.com/docs/gm-heritage-archive/vehicle-information-kits/Corvette/1995-Chevrolet-Corvette.pdf

Demps
08-31-2021, 02:48 PM
Stole the OP's thread...sorry.

Interesting find. Early '95 build sheets had item #32 as "Luggage Rack". Later build sheets had #32 "Extra PKE" with "FOB" filled in on the only one I have that came with it.
Ted

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DRM500RUBYZR-1
09-01-2021, 08:34 AM
Ted,
I appreciate VERY MUCH, you taking the time to furnish both the window sticker and more importantly, the build sheet.
I now recall seeing FOB on a build sheet, but don't recall if I had the window sticker for that particular car.
I have forwarded a link to this thread to a longtime friend.
He also happens to be an NCRS Judge, Master I believe, whose specialty is C-4 Corvettes.
One of the many things I still enjoy is learning something new every day.
Thank you for your role in my continuing education!
I have most all of the dealer training literature for the 1993 model year. Nowhere in that material is mention made of the extra PKE option.
Perhaps it is in the 1995 training material.
At any rate the dealer who submitted the RPO for your car knew of it and obviously checked the appropriate box.
Now I wonder how many are out there......................
Could this be more rare than Double Dunn.................
Wonder if you could order a base convertible with both a luggage rack AND and extra PKE?
Again Ted, Thank you!
:cheers:
Marty

DRM500RUBYZR-1
09-01-2021, 12:07 PM
Ted,
One more request if I may.
At some point could you get a picture of your Service Parts Identification Label for this car?
That would complete all for your car.
I understand that the NCRS continues to work on updates to the current 1994 to 1996 Judging Manual. I would imagine that a cars SPID is the what would be available for review if the question came up during judging.
There are rules that state how a build sheet must be furnished to a judge if one is proffered as confirmation of a car's part.

Had I been more careful in my past review of RPO codes, one in particular would have been noted.

https://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/specs/c4/1984-1996-corvette-rpo-codes.html

Refer to RPO AUO.
This stands for "Remote Entry Second Transmitter"
It would be interesting to see which RPO, FOB or AUO is on the SPID.
Therefore any 93-96 that has either FOB or AUO on the build sheet or AUO on the SPID was equipped from the factory with two PKE's.

They say one of the goals of NCRS is to help you learn more about your car.
True indeed.
However this Forum is another valuable tool as it focuses on the ZR-1.
Again Ted,
Thanks!
:cheers:
Marty

Demps
09-01-2021, 12:36 PM
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DRM500RUBYZR-1
09-01-2021, 01:42 PM
Thanks Ted!
All has been shared with my NCRS friend!
:cheers:
Marty

DRM500RUBYZR-1
09-01-2021, 03:20 PM
A message for you Ted!

Marty, Please tell your friend on the ZR1 Registry I appreciate all his efforts and that it was passed on to the Judging Chairman for the 1984-96 class.
Pat

:thumbsup:
:cheers:]
Marty

viper107
09-01-2021, 05:47 PM
watch out for the aftermarket key fob cases, they break the electronics!!! bree that helped design those in the day told me this and yes before i met her i did exactly that..broke the electronics with the aftermarket case

RichieDMD
09-03-2021, 10:26 PM
So, the car arrived today...2 fobs and neither worked. I changed the batteries and went through the reprogramming process in the manual. It appears one took the reprogram and is now functioning...sort of. The other didn't seem to work (and the reprogram light didn't stop blinking when brought into range).

The one that did reprogram seems to work sort of. When I approach the car it does not unlock and when I walk away it does not lock. But, when the hatch button is pressed the hatch does pop and when the door button is pressed the passenger door unlocks. With some presentence, the driver side unlocked too. Any thoughts?