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LGAFF
07-04-2020, 12:38 PM
I have an issue with the fans turning on once the ignition switch is turned into the accessory position, as in supplying power, but the car is not running. I have reset the prom multiple times and even replaced the prom. disconnected the temp switch on the inj housing, and even trying jumpering the AC high pressure line switch
Thoughts, I think the only other potential issue is ECM?
BigJohn
07-04-2020, 12:55 PM
Is the engine warm?
LGAFF
07-04-2020, 01:02 PM
No this is from the moment you turn on the switch, even when dead cold
LGAFF
07-04-2020, 01:13 PM
I should probably mention its only the primary fan... and I did swap relays with same result
Corvette95
07-04-2020, 01:24 PM
Check if your A/C pressure switch is unplugged or bad. (on high side line with red upper body)
LGAFF
07-04-2020, 01:26 PM
Check if your A/C pressure switch is unplugged or bad. (on high side line with red upper body)
I jumpered the connector ..... didnt change anything, also does the car have to be running to turn it on due to the pressure switch.... this happens on mine in accessory mode
XfireZ51
07-04-2020, 01:44 PM
So Lee, with ignition ON but not running, do fans come on?
LGAFF
07-04-2020, 01:47 PM
Yes engine is off and fan 1 cones on not both
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Corvette95
07-04-2020, 01:48 PM
I jumpered the connector ..... didnt change anything, also does the car have to be running to turn it on due to the pressure switch.... this happens on mine in accessory mode
If the connector is bad or unplugged the fans will run all the time. I am not sure if jumping it will work or if it is a resistance number it is looking for.
XfireZ51
07-04-2020, 02:01 PM
Yes engine is off and fan 1 cones on not both
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Is this a new calibration u put in, or has the prom always been there and now this is happening? Does SES flash once on initial ignition ON?
Corvette95
07-04-2020, 03:44 PM
Didn't see the part where you asked if the a/c has to be in run for the pressure switch to run the fan....yes.
LGAFF
07-04-2020, 03:48 PM
this is a stock 92 prom. Yes Tech one flashes 12, car runs, etc
Corvette95
07-04-2020, 04:18 PM
Other than sticking relay, I think they have power from fusible links at all times even with key off, an aftermarket fan switch, or a fault in ignition switch. Has any wiring work been done under the drivers dash such as Vats bypass, alarm, remote door fob etc?
LGAFF
07-04-2020, 04:19 PM
Nope all stock wiring... and its only fan 1
Macroblock
07-06-2020, 07:10 PM
I'm thinking the primary cooling fan is "controlled by the ECM" thru the Green Connector "C6". This provides a (-) signal to th Primary Fan Relay.
If you disconnect the Green Connector and turn the key to "ON", you can verify if the fan is being activated by the ECM or something else. If it runs with the Green Connector removed, it's not the ECM.
LGAFF
07-06-2020, 07:12 PM
I unplugged red and it stopped. Will check green too
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LGAFF
07-06-2020, 09:35 PM
I am able to command the fan off with a Tech 1, which I thought was odd...
Macroblock
07-07-2020, 01:29 AM
I am able to command the fan off with a Tech 1, which I thought was odd...
That's a good sign. It suggests to me the ECM is capable of controlling its (-) output to the primary fan relay on circuit 409, pin 6 of Green Connector (C6).
Could it be you have a Code 14, 15, 52 or 62 set?
If you have any scan-tool (or any device) connected to the ALDL the fan or fans might come on.
If you have a faulty Heater/ AC Controller.
One or several of these inputs to the ECM could be providing false information causing the ECM to activate the primary fan relay:
AC Request (C2),
AC Fan Request (C8),
Coolant Temp. Sensor (B9),
Engine Oil Temp Sensor (B18),
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