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Ccmano
12-20-2019, 06:54 PM
To date I’ve done more plenum pulls than I can count and other than a blown INJ1 fuse or a finicky coolant fill I’ve never run into any issues with codes when finished. Recently in doing one for a friend we ended up with a code 42 when it was all buttoned up. Very irritating. After running some diagnostics, specifically the FSM diagnostic tree for code 42, we determined that the most likely issue was a bent pin at the main DIS module connector. This means pulling the plenum again. Which also means draining and later refilling coolant. Some searches on the forum revealed that this is not an uncommon issue because of the awkward access to the main DIS connector for reassembly. It doesn’t take much for even a slight misalignment to cause a bent connector pin. That’s what we found, a bent pin.

It occurred to me that if I added one step to the reassembly process I could assure no code 42 and the associated work of a second plenum pull and coolant drain/refill. Its simple. (Note, you will need a Tech1 or code reader of some type.)
When you get to the point where the plenum is on (not bolted down) and all the DIS connectors are in place, stop. Now connect all the other electronic connectors that came off in the process, if only temporarily. The MAT sensor, Idle Air Motor, the Throttle Position Sensor and the MAP Sensor. If you disconnected your battery, reconnect it. At this point simply turn the ignition on. (Don’t turn the engine over!) Your code reader will now tell you if there are any codes. A code 42 will instantaneously come on if it’s there. If there is no code 42 your good to go. If you do find a code 42 clear it, cycle the ignition off and back on (don’t turn the engine over). If the code comes back you likely have a bent DIS connector pin. You can now more easily go back and check the connector pins. You just saved yourself a full second plenum pull.
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Dynomite
12-20-2019, 08:00 PM
Block TB Coolant at Injector Housing if you want to make it super easy to remove the Plenum :thumbsup:

See .........1995 LT5 SPECIFIC TOP END REBUILD TRICKS in signature.

Ccmano
12-20-2019, 08:04 PM
Block TB Coolant at Injector Housing if you want to make it super easy to remove the Plenum :thumbsup:

Very true, I have mine done, but most people don’t do it.
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Dynomite
12-20-2019, 09:23 PM
Very true, I have mine done, but most people don’t do it.
H
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I removed the two MAP Sensor Bolts (those two bolts are now Allen head) one time making it very easy to disconnect MAP Vacuum and the MAP electrical connector (then removing the MAP bracket and sensor completely). This then made it considerably easier to disconnect/connect the DIS connector with 1/4 inch socket and a 1/4 inch socket wrench with 4 inch extension.

I then connected the MAP electrical plug to the MAP sensor before connecting the MAP bracket with MAP sensor to the Plenum after Plenum is installed which was very easy.

I have never bent a connector pin in the DIS (DIM) but that definitely can happen and worthy of your checking procedure :thumbsup:

This is a 95' Plenum......

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.corvetteforum.com-vbulletin/800x600-1/80-plenum_labels_dea21bfa684ac81ca27ba34e6543972798d4 b7c3.jpg

Karl
12-21-2019, 01:13 PM
Mine had a code 16 with a bent pin. See post #25

Got my car at a pretty good deal due to this a few miscellaneous issues.

http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=29346&page=3

Ccmano
12-21-2019, 05:05 PM
Mine had a code 16 with a bent pin. See post #25

Got my car at a pretty good deal due to this a few miscellaneous issues.

http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=29346&page=3

That’s true, it depends on which pin you bend.
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ZWILD1
12-21-2019, 09:19 PM
It's been a while since I did a plenum pull. I have a slight vacuum leak that could be the plenum gaskets. Hoping it's not the injector housing gaskets. I guess I can't getaway with just slipping in new plenum gaskets or can I. Just drain a bit of coolant and remove the bolts to the plenum. Raise the plenum a bit and prop it up just enough to install the new gaskets on the top of the injector housing and then bolt the plenum back up.

Marc ported the heads ,injector housing, and plenum. There are no secondary's anymore, or secondary actuators all that stuff is history. Anybody have a view of a LT5 with the secondary delete? With the plenum pulled that is.

Ccmano
12-21-2019, 11:59 PM
Here’s a shot of mine with the plenum off. I’m running without secondaries as well.
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https://farm66.staticflickr.com/65535/49256081373_98b7811ec5_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2i3AhWi)

Dynomite
12-22-2019, 01:56 PM
Here’s a shot of mine with the plenum off. I’m running without secondaries as well.
H
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https://farm66.staticflickr.com/65535/49256081373_98b7811ec5_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2i3AhWi)

Now you need Phil's Modified Fuel Pressure Regulator :thumbsup:

The most unique feature of the LT5 is the Full Power Key...........
....But.......I admit on one ZR1 I have also eliminated Secondaries :D

Looks like you blocked TB Coolant.......
......but your Plenum Gasket is backward :D:D

billschroeder5842
12-22-2019, 03:07 PM
What are Y'all doing to hold the gasket in place when putting the plenum back on?

I had a buddy help me a while back who is a former pro-motor cycle racer. He used hair-spray. I never heard of such a thing put it worked!

Ccmano
12-22-2019, 03:13 PM
What are Y'all doing to hold the gasket in place when putting the plenum back on?

I had a buddy help me a while back who is a former pro-motor cycle racer. He used hair-spray. I never heard of such a thing put it worked!

Simple, get the plenum in place and ready to bolt down without the gasket. Then when its all lined up lift the plenum slightly and slide the gaskets in one side at a time. I start two bolts on the first side to keep it lined up and do the other side.
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ZWILD1
12-22-2019, 11:03 PM
Ccmano thanks for the pic. The gasket you are using is a Jerry's? Works fine with a ported plenum and injector housing I take it?

Ccmano
12-23-2019, 01:43 AM
Ccmano thanks for the pic. The gasket you are using is a Jerry's? Works fine with a ported plenum and injector housing I take it?

Yes, Jerry’s Gaskets, my plenum and IH’s are ported. His gaskets are set up for it.
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Dynomite
12-23-2019, 01:53 AM
Yes, Jerry’s Gaskets, my plenum and IH’s are ported. His gaskets are set up for it.
H
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I always get the 1/32" ........ Jerry's Plenum Gasket 1/32 (https://www.jerrysgaskets.com/gasket-set-intake-plenum-1-32-90-95-7-5d2/)
I always get two sets just in case :D

You can see the TB Coolant Port in the gaskets and if you reverse the gaskets front to back you will essentially eliminate TB Coolant. You will still have the hassle of having to remove coolant with each Plenum removal unless you actually place a pipe plug in the Injector housing TB port.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.corvetteforum.com-vbulletin/350x500-1/80-7ebd6092_fef7_4069_8529_3946c348685d_1__0aed7a5f55 0c8514d35d847a186327b3ce40f693.jpghttps://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.corvetteforum.com-vbulletin/350x500-1/80-2ba39678_4446_4eb4_a1c8_21762a216b56_1__54f1ba0b80 f90ac24907d0a76a5a86c3515ab37b.jpg

See this link for TB Coolant Blocking drilling and threading details Injector Housing TB Coolant Blocking (https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c4-zr-1-discussion/3005470-tech-info-lt5-modifications-rebuild-tricks-500-hp-10.html#post1588695506)

Some tips on Coolant Air Lock in the TB Coolant Blocking link also :cheers:

Ccmano (Hans) has his TB Coolant Blocked also and for him you can insert the gasket front to back or back to front as you like exactly like he suggested with no sealers of any kind on the gasket (especially if you have TB Coolant Blocked).

ZWILD1
12-23-2019, 03:06 PM
Great thanks for the info. I wonder if Marc blocked it. It has the TB bypass already. Will find out when I replace the gaskets.

Z51JEFF
12-26-2019, 04:05 PM
Yep,I’m a member of the bent pin club.