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Jetjock
09-14-2019, 01:17 PM
I’m reading the NCRS judging manual and testing the lights. There is supposed to be a chime when the lights are on and the ignition switch is either off or lock. I did this and no chime. I don’t know if this is tied into the door jamb switch or not since I’m having problems with it. The other thing is when the key is in the ignition and the door is open. Basically the chime isn’t working. I’m checking the fuses to see if one of them is blown. Otherwise, any ideas?

-=Jeff=-
09-14-2019, 03:33 PM
First confirm courtesy lights are on with door open.. if yes, turn on headlights? Does the chime sound? If not, replace the chime. Dash pad has to come off for chime replacement

Mystic ZR-1
09-14-2019, 04:44 PM
Does it work with the key out?

Actually, it‘s not a lights on reminder.
It‘s a stall warning!
Get that nose down...
😀

TX '90 ZR1
09-14-2019, 05:18 PM
Actually, it‘s not a lights on reminder.
It‘s a stall warning!
Get that nose down...
😀[/QUOTE]

Or Up! It's an angle of attack thing.
:cheers:

Jetjock
09-14-2019, 06:51 PM
Does it work with the key out?

Actually, it‘s not a lights on reminder.
It‘s a stall warning!
Get that nose down...
😀

Amateurs. I’m surrounded by amateurs.

-=Jeff=-
09-14-2019, 07:12 PM
Amateurs. I’m surrounded by amateurs.

LOL.. also you can remove the switch without removing the panel. You will need a longer screw to hold the plate in place in the door.. that is how I remove those switches now if needed

Mystic ZR-1
09-14-2019, 07:14 PM
😋

BigJohn
09-15-2019, 06:10 PM
😋



Well I had a no start problem, until I discovered I had the wrong key.
So much for my key box theory.

Jetjock
09-15-2019, 09:41 PM
First confirm courtesy lights are on with door open.. if yes, turn on headlights? Does the chime sound? If not, replace the chime. Dash pad has to come off for chime replacement

Actually, I don’t have to replace the pad. Gordon told me a little trick that they did at the plant. They cut a hole in the area behind the DIC to get access because pulling the pad was such a hassle. I have a hole cut to get to the LTPWS module. The tone generator is next to it.

Jetjock
09-15-2019, 09:45 PM
Actually, it‘s not a lights on reminder.
It‘s a stall warning!
Get that nose down...
😀

Or Up! It's an angle of attack thing.
:cheers:[/QUOTE]

The stall warning is actually quite violent and accompanied by the stick shaker. You would pee in your pants if you went through it. 😂

-=Jeff=-
09-15-2019, 10:04 PM
Actually, I don’t have to replace the pad. Gordon told me a little trick that they did at the plant. They cut a hole in the area behind the DIC to get access because pulling the pad was such a hassle. I have a hole cut to get to the LTPWS module. The tone generator is next to it.

When you swap it, please take a picture of the hole. I m curious on how big of a hole is made..

TX '90 ZR1
09-15-2019, 11:29 PM
Or Up! It's an angle of attack thing.
:cheers:

The stall warning is actually quite violent and accompanied by the stick shaker. You would pee in your pants if you went through it. 😂[/QUOTE]

We didn't have stick shakers in these! No stall warning either.
10427

I've also experienced the stall warnings and stick shakers. I didn't pee in my pants, but sometimes my passenger did. (Assuming they haven't already lost their cookies!)
:cheers:

Jetjock
09-16-2019, 04:41 PM
The stall warning is actually quite violent and accompanied by the stick shaker. You would pee in your pants if you went through it. 😂

We didn't have stick shakers in these! No stall warning either.
10427

I've also experienced the stall warnings and stick shakers. I didn't pee in my pants, but sometimes my passenger did. (Assuming they haven't already lost their cookies!)
:cheers:[/QUOTE]

Actually, I meant that for Jeff but you got it instead. When we did stalls in the sim for the 777, we lost over 15,000 ft! That’s why we just go up to the stick shaker and recover from there. During unusual altitude recovery, I was able to recover without losing more than a couple hundred feet. You to be fast and figure out which way the vector was going.

Mystic ZR-1
09-16-2019, 05:54 PM
In the 152, you just pull back a little more and at the right time,
kick the desired pedal to determine the direction of spin...
If your candy assed CFI would let you that is...
I think I remember him saying.... Well... OK, but don‘t tell anyone 😋!!!
However, not the same response when I brought up the subject of
an inside loop ☹️ I guess calling him candy assed is a little harsh...
OBTW: 20 or so years later he now flys a 767, but not like that I hope?
Lose 15000 feet in a 152? Oh Oh!!!!
Me? The lure of flying a few hours for a cup of coffee at FBO rental rate$
wore off years ago...

TX '90 ZR1
09-16-2019, 08:56 PM
In the 152, you just pull back a little more and at the right time,
kick the desired pedal to determine the direction of spin...
If your candy assed CFI would let you that is...
I think I remember him saying.... Well... OK, but don‘t tell anyone 😋!!!
However, not the same response when I brought up the subject of
an inside loop ☹️ I guess calling him candy assed is a little harsh...
OBTW: 20 or so years later he now flys a 767, but not like that I hope?
Lose 15000 feet in a 152? Oh Oh!!!!
Me? The lure of flying a few hours for a cup of coffee at FBO rental rate$
wore off years ago...

Back when I was instructing to build hours, I would not sign off a student for solo unless they had experienced a spin. I'm not talking in and out. At least 3 turns. I would also not recommend anyone for their private license unless I had given them at least 3 hours of tail wheel time. These 3 hours consisted of take off, land, full stop. Repeat.
I had some students that went to a more "candy assed" instructor, but my students knew how to "FLY"!
:cheers: