C8 Corvette

[lfalzarano]

According to the WSJ, GM will not be producing hybrids in the future. So we can assume the C8 will remain a gasoline vehicle for this generation, SANs the stick shift.

https://jalopnik.com/there-is-no-hybrid-future-at-gm-and-volkswagen-1837166788/amp




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[Hib Halverson]

I'm not sure that I'd believe that story to apply to the C8.

One reason GM went to a mid-engine car is the platform was "maxed out" at 755-hp much less for an even more power.

The only way to make the car perform well with more horsepower is all-wheel drive.

If the Corvette was to be "all-IC" GM will have to develop a complex and heavy mechanical system to transfer torque from the mid-engine to the front axle.

Another way to get AWD and dispense with a prop shaft and a drive axle assembly is to use electric drive up front. This system would not be capable of moving car by itself. It would be enabled only when the driver wants maximum torque output. The battery pack would be pretty small.

There are other high-performance sports car which use a hybrid configuration in this manner.

I'm going to guess a V8 with 550-600-hp driving the rear wheels and 300-400 hp worth of electric motor(s) driving the front wheels.

[XfireZ51]

Hib,

I would tend to agree w u. The use of electric drive would also have the advantage of literally dynamic torque vectoring.

[lfalzarano]

I don’t think any executive at GM would go against Mary Barra’s future vision for GM of only full electric powered vehicles. You’ll just have to wait for the C9, if you’re young enough.


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[lfalzarano]

Here are the official C8 performance numbers

Official Performance Numbers
Louis, what happens when you set out to improve upon the storied legacy of Chevrolet small block engines? You get the all-new 6.2L LT2 V8 on the 2020 Corvette Stingray. This powerhouse helps Stingray achieve its official performance numbers, including a top speed on a race track of up to 194 mph. Plus, with the available Z51 Performance Package, it can take you from 0–60 mph in just 2.9 seconds1 and boasts a time of 11.2 seconds @ 121 mph1 in the quarter-mile.


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[WARP TEN]

Here are the official C8 performance numbers

Official Performance Numbers
Louis, what happens when you set out to improve upon the storied legacy of Chevrolet small block engines? You get the all-new 6.2L LT2 V8 on the 2020 Corvette Stingray. This powerhouse helps Stingray achieve its official performance numbers, including a top speed on a race track of up to 194 mph. Plus, with the available Z51 Performance Package, it can take you from 0–60 mph in just 2.9 seconds1 and boasts a time of 11.2 seconds @ 121 mph1 in the quarter-mile.


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According to GM's numbers, my 2016 Z06 is already capable of those numbers. More than enough for me so I think I will keep my 2016 for the time being. ---Bob

[lfalzarano]

Bob,

Then you should wait until 2022...

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2022-chevrolet-corvette-z06-c8-mid-engine/amp/



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[WARP TEN]

Bob,

Then you should wait until 2022...

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2022-chevrolet-corvette-z06-c8-mid-engine/amp/



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Lou, I am sure it will be a fine and powerful car. I usually wait a few years before I buy a model, so I would probably be looking at something in 2024 or 2025. At which time I will be getting mighty close to 80 years old. If I am lucky. So despite the Mickey Thompson quote in my signature, 650 HP is probably enough for me for now and the foreseeable future. Of course I can try to prolong that foreseeable future as long as possible by reducing my life-long consumption of the "Four Bs"--Beef, Bacon, Butter and Booze. So who knows what the future will bring? But maybe I will decide that a possibly shorter foreseeable future is more fun with the Four Bs and more HP!--Bob

[lfalzarano]

You forgot the 5th “B” - Babes. I’m just a few years behind you. I might go for a used Z51. I can will my Z to my son and a black (daughter loves black) Z51 to my daughter. That if I live a little longer.


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[fred]

With all the bitching about the dual clutch, I had to look it up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLOwY3w_TNc

[Corvettes White]

Nicely done video.

[WARP TEN]

You forgot the 5th “B” - Babes....

Lou, I was talking about things that clog my arteries or increase my waistline, not things that will get me shot!--Bob

[lfalzarano]

Bob, I’ve been shot. It doesn’t hurt as bad as the doctor cleaning out the wound! [emoji16]

I find that Wine, Garlic and Olive Oil keep the pipes clean. When your eyes are brown, that means you’re a quart low on tomato sauce. My Eyetalian theory!


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[lfalzarano]

With all the bitching about the dual clutch, I had to look it up!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLOwY3w_TNc



Sequential gearboxes are better!

https://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/a27127448/sequential-vs-dual-clutch-transmission/?src=socialflowFBRAT&fbclid=IwAR3Wu0cYOfNz6S53LtjIH0UWFoBgskJvWQ5f5wpeY S7xfYN0R_HsY1j84no


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[WARP TEN]

Bob, I’ve been shot. It doesn’t hurt as bad as the doctor cleaning out the wound! [emoji16]

I find that Wine, Garlic and Olive Oil keep the pipes clean. When your eyes are brown, that means you’re a quart low on tomato sauce. My Eyetalian theory!


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I'm all for Wine, Garlic and Olive Oil. Our better go-to local restaurants are Italian (went to one Friday night.) But the W,G and OO are fighting an uphill battle with the Four B's. Oh well, back to the topic at hand--Bob

[lfalzarano]

Here’s a great video with Jay Leno on the C8 Z51 convertible.

The C8 has moved up on my bucket list.

https://youtu.be/nvTzcNtaSLU


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[WARP TEN]

Here’s a great video with Jay Leno on the C8 Z51 convertible.

The C8 has moved up on my bucket list.

https://youtu.be/nvTzcNtaSLU


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I have to agree. Great video and it made the C8 look better than I had thought. Too bad 2020 production is essentially sold out. Or perhaps a good thing--I won't get tempted and run the risk of divorce. For some reason the lighting must have effected the color. I presume it was Sebring Orange but it looked sort of salmon to my eye. Also, I have seen a number of complaints from people who have sat in the C8 and they said it felt more confined than the C7, a tighter fit for tall and larger folks. But in the video Tad said they had added one inch to seat travel and more reclining ability. Guess I'll just have to test it myself someday. --Bob

[lfalzarano]

Let’s agree if Leno can fit in with 5 more inches to move the seat back, then 99% should fit.

I will wait for a 2021 used one before I buy.


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[BigJohn]

Leno is 5 feet 11 inches

[lfalzarano]

So there should be plenty of room for taller men.


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[SAHall]

Only 1% of US men are 6’4” or taller, so with the 5 extra inches of movement and given other variables, the 1% estimate may not be far off.


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[spork2367]

The guy in front of me in line at Carlisle got in and out and said it was fine. He was probably 6'4" and 240 lbs.

My dad sat in it and thought it was comfortable, he's 6'1" 220 lbs.

His comment was that the C5 feels like the the roomiest of the modern corvettes.

I'm a little guy, so they all feel roomy...lol.

I will say that the C8 cockpit definitely wraps around you more, which I personally like. If you don't like that, or you have any claustrophobic tendencies, the C8 will "feel" small. It doesn't feel as open as a C5 or C7 (haven't sat in a C6).

If you are an old school, flat dash, straight across kind of guy, the C8 will feel weird. I would think maybe a bit less for C4 owners as we have the most cramped cockpits anyway. The C8 definitely has the racecar/supercar driver oriented cockpit.