Considering selling the beast ....

[zr1assassin]

Guys, I'm considering selling the z.
I have had the opportunity to build this car into what I think is a "better" version, improved on all the areas I think stock lacks. I've taken it about as far as I think it should go and am itching to move on to another build. I absolutely love the way it has turned out but i enjoy the build process more than anything, some of you out there will know exactly what I'm talking about.
Haven't decided yet but I'd like to either get another c4z and go a different direction with it or maybe even a c6z? I hope this car will go to someone who possibly wants a modified Z but doesn't have the ability/space to build it themselves.
Took this car out today and its dialed in perfectly, performs amazingly. Sounds, handles, feels, brakes outstanding for a 26yr old car. I'm very happy with the way its turned out.
Anyways, I'm really just gauging interest at this point so if you would like more information about the car and are interested p.m. me. I don't really have an idea on price or anything else yet just kind of thinking out loud to the group, so don't beat me up to bad lol.

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[G8nightman]

This thought comes up often in your mind lol? Are you going to be removing the big brakes in the other thread you had some worries about safety liabilities on your one off brake caliper brackets? Car came out looking really nice you should just keep it and add the c5z to your stable.


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[zr1assassin]

This thought comes up often in your mind lol? Are you going to be removing the big brakes in the other thread you had some worries about safety liabilities on your one off brake caliper brackets? Car came out looking really nice you should just keep it and add the c5z to your stable.


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I always start thinking this way when a build is completed lol, my wife says there is something wrong with me lol.... she could be right🤔. I get done with it, and think "ok, now what".
I lose a ton of money everytime I do it but Its worth it to me, i really enjoy the build process. I'll leave the brakes, I've had a chance to really put them through the paces and they are solid as a rock, they stop soooo much better than stock did, its really reminds me of the way my 16Z06 stopped!
I think I've narrowed it down to another c4zr1 or a c6zr1, although I've never had a c5.....🤔

[32valvesftw]

I get the same way about my cars, I get to a point and then start looking around. I would say if you have the space keep it. You will probably be disappointed in the offers after all that work.

[zr1assassin]

I get the same way about my cars, I get to a point and then start looking around. I would say if you have the space keep it. You will probably be disappointed in the offers after all that work.

Ya I might if I can swing it and the new project, but even then I will want to fiddle with it more. We'll see, like I said I'm still just pondering this .....outloud. I think $30k would be where I'd shoot for, still be losing a chunk but I try not to worry about that to much, chalk it up to admission price to play in the car game

[XfireZ51]

Ya I might if I can swing it and the new project, but even then I will want to fiddle with it more. We'll see, like I said I'm still just pondering this .....outloud. I think $30k would be where I'd shoot for, still be losing a chunk but I try not to worry about that to much, chalk it up to admission price to play in the car game

I know how you feel. I’ve done something similar w my previous cars. And I think I’m getting to the point w my ZR where running out of things to upgrade. Having said that, tuning can be an obsession that keeps u going. There’s always something. But having upgraded everything from motor, exhaust, suspension, brakes, and chassis stiffness, I have to admit, I still get a kick out of driving this car. I don’t get bored like I have with other ones.
Perhaps assassin you might consider a different option like the one I just chose.
Still a DOHC. 😉🤣

[zr1assassin]

I know how you feel. I’ve done something similar w my previous cars. And I think I’m getting to the point w my ZR where running out of things to upgrade. Having said that, tuning can be an obsession that keeps u going. There’s always something. But having upgraded everything from motor, exhaust, suspension, brakes, and chassis stiffness, I have to admit, I still get a kick out of driving this car. I don’t get bored like I have with other ones.
Perhaps assassin you might consider a different option like the one I just chose.
Still a DOHC. 😉🤣

Ohhhh dont get me started on bikes lol, I've rode for years and absolutely love to lay into a corner. I've had many 1000rr's and a few 929's. I quit bikes about 3yrs ago, figured I'd lived this long with only one low side I better walk away while I'm still standing. But believe me I know absolutely nothing feels like riding, I've had many many fast cars and in my opinion it doesn't even compare to the thrill of a bike. I still catch myself to this day looking at 1199s 😍

[zr1assassin]

Yes...Yes....Yes......I concur :cheers:

Just get another C4 ZR-1 and rebuild again (keep both). Lucky for me my cousin sells insurance and I just call her to add or subtract vehicles insured when I am driving them :thumbsup:

The only trouble I am having is the C4 ZR-1s just do not have issues once you have done a basic Restoration and Change of Fluids to ALL proper fluids.
Jerry and Carter have been very supportive for all initial restorations :handshak:

Ya they are so good you run out of things to do to them 😂😂😂

[Mystic ZR-1]

Ya they are so good you run out of things to do to them 😂😂😂

Drive it!!!

[zr1assassin]

Drive it!!!

True. And I will but that doesn't satisfy the "gotta be fu#ckin with something" urge lol

[TX '90 ZR1]

I'm sort of in the same boat.
My '90 is pretty much original, so I have not done any modifications, but I have EVERYTHING on the car working correctly and miss working on it!
Keep driving it thinking something will show up to work on, but it keeps acting like the "Eveready Bunny"! :confused:
Just keeps on going.
:cheers:
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year everybody.

[zr1assassin]

I'm sort of in the same boat.
My '90 is pretty much original, so I have not done any modifications, but I have EVERYTHING on the car working correctly and miss working on it!
Keep driving it thinking something will show up to work on, but it keeps acting like the "Eveready Bunny"! :confused:
Just keeps on going.
:cheers:
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year everybody.
I cant not mod things.... I'd start nodding it, it's part of ownership experience imho

[TX '90 ZR1]

I cant not mod things.... I'd start nodding it, it's part of ownership experience imho

Actually, I am thinking of buying another one that is not so well kept and going to town on it.
I like the idea of doing modifications, but also have somewhat of a problem not retaining originality on a really nice car.
Probably being a bit anal here, but I remember all the C-2's and C-3's I basically "ruined" by doing extensive modifications to back in the day. The upside to all these was that they sure were fun to drive!!
:cheers:

[zr1assassin]

Alright....let me open up the can of worms, what's it worth if I throw it up for sale? I figure in stock form it was $25k? What about now?

[zr1assassin]

What year? How many miles?
You will not want to know the answere :D

92' 21,000, I bought it from the original owner with 19,000 on it. Ya I've put over $15k in it, it looks way way better that a stock one, what are they selling at low teens?. My guess would be $15kish, I dont see any others close to it for sale so it's hardto gauge

[zr1assassin]

I was figuring off this....
90/91 $8-12k
92/93 $10-$14k
94/95 $12-$16k
That's for nice condition, all necessary maintenance ie: injectors such and sub 30,000 miles? Ballpark from what I've seen sell. Mine with looking 1million times better than stock lol, maybe $15ish? It's got vansteel coilovers, bigbrakes and 19" wheels/brand new tires
I've also done accel injectors, full headers/exhaust, 4:10 gears, chip and a few other tid bits.

[zr1assassin]

Come on guys lol your not going to offend me.....what's she worth?

[32valvesftw]

I was figuring off this....
90/91 $8-12k
92/93 $10-$14k
94/95 $12-$16k
That's for nice condition, all necessary maintenance ie: injectors such and sub 30,000 miles? Ballpark from what I've seen sell. Mine with looking 1million times better than stock lol, maybe $15ish? It's got vansteel coilovers, bigbrakes and 19" wheels/brand new tires
I've also done accel injectors, full headers/exhaust, 4:10 gears, chip and a few other tid bits.

Does the Data support that assumption? Seems a little low to me. But I maybe misunderstanding your point. The results on Bring a Trailer seem a bit higher, but I have not figured out how to repost that data here.

[zr1assassin]

Does the Data support that assumption? Seems a little low to me. But I maybe misunderstanding your point. The results on Bring a Trailer seem a bit higher, but I have not figured out how to repost that data here.

Oh I have no idea, this is purely me guessing just based on ones I've seen in the past go for. I hope all of us get more😁 that would be awesome. I'm just trying to be realistic in my expectations

[zr1assassin]

I hope! Well then..... what would you put my green machine at?

[zr1assassin]

The only one that I've seen that is really comparable to mine is Mike's "5abivt", his is stunning by the way! there aren't many out there like the one I built that I've seen so it's really hard to gauge a value

[zr1assassin]

You went from $30k to $12k-$14k ????????
I do not understand your thinking :D
Especially with an additional $15k mods investimate.
You probably have $40k in the car ????

I do have $40 in it.... or more😢 but I'm trying to be realistic in my expectations of selling it. I'll take as much as I can get trust me but I dont expect to get all my mod money back. I meant to say i have $15k in it. My $12-$14k was for a nice stock one, sorry I was a bit confusing

[zr1assassin]

You went from $30k to $12k-$14k ????????
I do not understand your thinking :D
Especially with an additional $15k mods investimate.
You probably have $40k in the car ????

What are you thinking on value?

[Vette Guy]

My $.02 is to start with market pricing of a ‘92 with similar miles. Unless you have a built LT5, I don’t see mods making a big price difference, rather might be the tipping point in which Z to purchase. My ‘91 has a ton of work done to it.... gears, new ZF, top end, cuts plenum, poly suspension, new interior, FM-5s, Jeal headers, exhaust, Eradispeed / Bear claw brakes, injectors/coils, stereo/nav, etc., etc... runs 12.5 times on street tires... spent a bunch, but I realize it won’t go for much over other ‘91s with similar miles. Not concerned with value other than to me. I estimate being in the low teens if I sold it. As compared to eating the depreciation on a new Z06/ZR1, my Z has been a great value for the enjoyment I’ve received with it over the past 16 years.

Throw it on the ZR-1 Net Registry website or BAT with reserve and see what the market will bare.


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[32valvesftw]

My Black 91 with full Aftermarket (Guldstrand?) suspension front to back, and Borla exhaust was 16.5, it was clean and except for suspension, stock?. Cliff saw & fixed the car once actually, so now its worth way more!
Since then I have done Henderson (Jeal) headers, X-pipe, tune, several sensors, tires, alignment, ball joints, rebuilt the half shafts, replaced most fluids, battery, rebuilt headlight motors, etc.. AND I would be surprised to recover the original purchase price if I sold it.
Now with your car, the paint color will generate a bit of a premium, Im not sure about your mods so its hard to judge value. With low miles and good condition a touch over 20K is a reasonable expectation. These cars have a limited audience IMHO so that needs to be factored in.

[Vette Guy]

With low miles and good condition a touch over 20K is a reasonable expectation.


I agree.


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[zr1assassin]

I agree.


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Well I would agree if it was stock or the mods were basic or all "hidden" somewhat. The modifications I've made to mine are extensive, somewhat unique and very visible, so hopefully that sets it apart from the average c4z and results in a premium of price..... I hope!😁

[TX '90 ZR1]

Many have eliminated Secondaries as a modification (which I have done on a '91). But....but.....The Full Power key is one of the most unique functions on a C4 ZR-1 :thumbsup: which if restored functions perfectly :D

Yes, eliminating the secondaries is a popular and probably worthwhile mod. Mine has no vaccum leaks and I tightened up the power key contacts while I had the radio control head out to fix the CD & cassette players just because I was there, which led to cleaning the AC system control button contacts just because I was there etc. etc.
;);):confused:

[randy ransome]

I sold this car one year ago for $23,800, 1991 with 27,000 miles

Corey Henderson built 368ci motor, polished cam cover and intake plenum. All aluminum parts have been polished, ported and port matched heads/injector housings, 63mm dual throttle body, Jeal headers, three inch B&B stainless exhaust, Hurst Billet plus shifter, front coil overs, ZF doc blueprinted 6spd trans, spec pressure plate, Kevlar Disc, balanced driveshaft, new spicer u-joints, 3:72 gears with new diff seals, C5 brakes and rotors on the front, stainless lines, polyurethane bushings all around,

8750

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[zr1assassin]

I sold this car one year ago for $23,800, 1991 with 27,000 miles

Corey Henderson built 368ci motor, polished cam cover and intake plenum. All aluminum parts have been polished, ported and port matched heads/injector housings, 63mm dual throttle body, Jeal headers, three inch B&B stainless exhaust, Hurst Billet plus shifter, front coil overs, ZF doc blueprinted 6spd trans, spec pressure plate, Kevlar Disc, balanced driveshaft, new spicer u-joints, 3:72 gears with new diff seals, C5 brakes and rotors on the front, stainless lines, polyurethane bushings all around,

8750

8751



:proud:

Wow..... now that's modded 👍👊

[32valvesftw]

Nice car Randy definitely worth the money and more.

[zr1assassin]

Ya I would say (and you may agree in hindsight) you let that one go on the cheap side

[Vette Guy]

I sold this car one year ago for $23,800, 1991 with 27,000 miles



8750






That was one heck of a ZR-1. You forgot the custom interior and incredible paint. No expense spared. Celebrity Choice car at BG. I know there was over 100 hours put into polishing that motor. Nothing on that car was left alone - shifted like butter. I felt like buckshot coming out of the hole in that car. It was fast!


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[G8nightman]

I would guess 20 to 27


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[randy ransome]

That was one heck of a ZR-1. You forgot the custom interior and incredible paint. No expense spared. Celebrity Choice car at BG. I know there was over 100 hours put into polishing that motor. Nothing on that car was left alone - shifted like butter. I felt like buckshot coming out of the hole in that car. It was fast!


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Thanks Mark, yeah it is a great car I hated selling it but I ran out of room to put cars. I thought about buying it back. It's for sale again in Oklahoma.

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[Vette Guy]

Wish you wouldn’t have sent that! Same, would love to have it.... ran out of room a while ago, now renting a garage space for ‘overflow!’ I just sent it to Ken as well.... love to see it back in town! Dealer has no idea what he has.


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[Vette73]

Thanks Mark, yeah it is a great car I hated selling it but I ran out of room to put cars. I thought about buying it back. It's for sale again in Oklahoma.

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I remember when gateway classics was advertising your Z.....Impressive build....Looks like that dealership has some high end cars for sale...

[Vette73]

Oh I have no idea, this is purely me guessing just based on ones I've seen in the past go for. I hope all of us get more😁 that would be awesome. I'm just trying to be realistic in my expectations

I purchased my 91 back in Nov of 14....Impulse buy, actually bought it sight unseen.....Knew really not much about the LT-5.....When the car came off the trailer it was exactly as advertised...Been a solid car since and I modded it to my liking- fully ported, exhaust, cams,etc....

With that I have followed pricing of these cars since day one, I walk around at work with a iPad all day so its easy....

EBay has the highest asking prices along w DuPont registry.....Dealers often are higher than private owners...
To me from what I see you have one of the finest Z's out there and its enthusiast owned which to me,helps...
Since you didn't buy it that long ago and its obvious you made it better, I personally wouldn't ask a lower price than what I paid..
Good luck if you decide to sell...

[zr1assassin]

I purchased my 91 back in Nov of 14....Impulse buy, actually bought it sight unseen.....Knew really not much about the LT-5.....When the car came off the trailer it was exactly as advertised...Been a solid car since and I modded it to my liking- fully ported, exhaust, cams,etc....

With that I have followed pricing of these cars since day one, I walk around at work with a iPad all day so its easy....

EBay has the highest asking prices along w DuPont registry.....Dealers often are higher than private owners...
To me from what I see you have one of the finest Z's out there and its enthusiast owned which to me,helps...
Since you didn't buy it that long ago and its obvious you made it better, I personally wouldn't ask a lower price than what I paid..
Good luck if you decide to sell...

Thanks. I'll probably ask around low $30k's and see if I get any interest, that might be the determinant factor of if I sell it or keep it. Its paid for and I have a big garage so no hurry.

[KILLSHOTS]

Difficult to gauge the value on this car. The stuff you've done to it is very cool and obviously expensive. But the issue is that you've gone personal and extremely unique with the mods, which greatly narrows the market for your car. Ironically, in spending money and adding character, you've arguably made it harder to sell. It's easy to speak about stock cars in terms of, "what are they worth?" Once you start modding them to your personal taste, the intrinsic value question is out the window and it comes down to, "what is someone willing to pay?" I had the same issues with mine; for instance, I loved my black salad shooter wheels but nobody else did. The car looks MEAN...good luck with it!

[zr1assassin]

Difficult to gauge the value on this car. The stuff you've done to it is very cool and obviously expensive. But the issue is that you've gone personal and extremely unique with the mods, which greatly narrows the market for your car. Ironically, in spending money and adding character, you've arguably made it harder to sell. It's easy to speak about stock cars in terms of, "what are they worth?" Once you start modding them to your personal taste, the intrinsic value question is out the window and it comes down to, "what is someone willing to pay?" I had the same issues with mine; for instance, I loved my black salad shooter wheels but nobody else did. The car looks MEAN...good luck with it!
Yes, agree 100%

[zr1assassin]

Concur :cheers:

There are many of us that buy Zs so we can play with them (modify them) which limits the market for modified Zs. If the modifications are common there are some that cannot modify them themselves and will pay a premium if it is the modification they are looking for. If the car has many modifications you might have to wait a long time to find the buyer :p

Might add also...….if the modification is a Haibeck (or other reputable and proven modification) it will add to the value I am sure.

Good Luck and have a Merry Christmas :handshak:

Yeah I think it all comes down to that right person that's looking for your specific car. I think the mods I've made are ones that enhance both the looks and performance

[32valvZ]

Buying a Z that has had the typical stuff done to it will put any potential buyer light years ahead of one without having that work done.

I bought mine mid this year and the PO had done almost all the things that would be to my own liking.... I mean everything... Bill B trans, Dr, Dons stereo refurb with BT... starter, injectors, wires... and the list goes on. The only thing I wanted to do was headers so far... and then really the only inoperable or poorly working things left on the car are the seat tracks/motors need replaced.

I don't think you'll have a hard time selling as long as the buyer knows these cars, they will know that its pretty much turn key. These cars are pay me now or pay me later situations.

[zr1assassin]

Buying a Z that has had the typical stuff done to it will put any potential buyer light years ahead of one without having that work done.

I bought mine mid this year and the PO had done almost all the things that would be to my own liking.... I mean everything... Bill B trans, Dr, Dons stereo refurb with BT... starter, injectors, wires... and the list goes on. The only thing I wanted to do was headers so far... and then really the only inoperable or poorly working things left on the car are the seat tracks/motors need replaced.

I don't think you'll have a hard time selling as long as the buyer knows these cars, they will know that its pretty much turn key. These cars are pay me now or pay me later situations.

Yes when I bought this one it was pretty much bone stock down to the 26 year-old tires, was "unmolested" from the factory, but the downside of it was as you mentioned everything needed addressed, fluids tires injectors and so on. Which I actually really enjoy the process of getting a car back up to Snuff, so wasn't a huge issue ....if you can stomach parting with all the $100 bills😂

[zr1assassin]

Ya know guys, after sitting here thinking it over, rereading some of your comments and to seal the deal, walking down into the garage and looking at her..... I have decided to keep it! With the way the build turned out I honestly think it's one of the best looking c4s out there, (not to seem to full of myself). Its literally got a couple different features that make it the only one on planet earth that has them (brakes/wheels) at least that I'm aware of. I'm keepin it.....I have to, it's to good to let go. Even if I was able to get low 30s out of it I'd be loosing money so why not just keep it. I cant wait until I'm able to take the picture of both z's sitting in the garage, 1 of which will be a c6zr1😉. Thanks for the encouragement and guidance guys...... she stays!

[XfireZ51]

Both of you need to settle your issues offline. This is a thread about someone openly discussing interest in selling their ZR. Let's keep it focused on that issue ONLY. If you can"t do that, I'll suspend BOTH your posting rights.
Your ball.

[32valvZ]

Ya know guys, after sitting here thinking it over, rereading some of your comments and to seal the deal, walking down into the garage and looking at her..... I have decided to keep it! With the way the build turned out I honestly think it's one of the best looking c4s out there, (not to seem to full of myself). Its literally got a couple different features that make it the only one on planet earth that has them (brakes/wheels) at least that I'm aware of. I'm keepin it.....I have to, it's to good to let go. Even if I was able to get low 30s out of it I'd be loosing money so why not just keep it. I cant wait until I'm able to take the picture of both z's sitting in the garage, 1 of which will be a c6zr1😉. Thanks for the encouragement and guidance guys...... she stays!

Cool... I would have hated to see that car go if it were mine. And who knows.... might even be in the calendar for 2019....:p

[zr1assassin]

Cool... I would have hated to see that car go if it were mine. And who knows.... might even be in the calendar for 2019....:p

That would be awesome... really looking forward to these calendars.

[zr1assassin]

Well if I'm keeping her looks like I better get to putting in the new flywheel/ clutch😁. I ordered a fidanza and a centerforce a while back, I also got the bolts/shims/bearing from marc so should make for a smooth installation. Cant wait to hear it spin up!
Anyone have any tips before I dive in?

[GOLDCYLON]

I have deleted all the negative comment gents including those by the OP by his request. Keep it civil folks. Thanks GC :cheers:

[GOLDCYLON]

Both of you need to settle your issues offline. This is a thread about someone openly discussing interest in selling their ZR. Let's keep it focused on that issue ONLY. If you can"t do that, I'll suspend BOTH your posting rights.
Your ball.

Dom PM me

[zr1assassin]

I have deleted all the negative comment gents including those by the OP by his request. Keep it civil folks. Thanks GC :cheers:

Thank you 😁😉

[zr1assassin]

Well I've been doing the exact thing I shouldn't be doing, (as car guys do) looking at c6zr1 LOL .....the Allure is great with this one! I'm trying to hold out in order to keep the C4 zr-1. If I can just hold out another 6 months I can have them both. Just got to keep telling myself that over and over and over

[Vette73]

I been looking at C6 ZR1's as well....Prices for some are just as expensive as used C7 Z06's...Since you have allready had the C7 I guess you will get a better understanding of the C6ZR1 if you get a chance to drive one..

Those cars when new were just very expensive,115-122,000 and this was close to ten years ago...

[Arctic91]

Glad that you're keeping the car and hope to see it at a gathering sometime soon...

Cheers,
Scott

[bb62]

Glad the OP is keeping his car. The question of value for cars of this age is always problematic because there is a tipping point that happens when the car migrates from "performance" car to "collector" car. For example, C2s - all of them - are now in the collector car realm. The value of any C2 is determined by originality and condition. Any modifications - regardless of how expensive the modification are - detract to the value of the car. The valuation is thus starting with the value of a virgin original car and subtracting the cost of returning the car to original.

When cars are new, modifications tend to increase the value of the car if tastefully done (per the new buyers definition of taste). The only exceptions to these rules seems to be when a well know modifier (like a Yenko for older Chevies or a Lingerfelter for more modern cars) turns these cars into something historically significant when the cars were still new. Race cars that have documented history also seem to be worth more with their modifications. It remains to be seen when C4 ZR-1s take that step from performance car to collector car.

[zr1assassin]

I been looking at C6 ZR1's as well....Prices for some are just as expensive as used C7 Z06's...Since you have allready had the C7 I guess you will get a better understanding of the C6ZR1 if you get a chance to drive one..

Those cars when new were just very expensive,115-122,000 and this was close to ten years ago...

Ya I've had a c7z06 so I'm assuming power level is very similar. I'm also sure the c7z is an "upgrade or update" in virtually every way.....but.... with that being said I think the c6zr1 is a much more "special" car and a flavor I haven't tasted yet soooo.... we gonna have to have one😁

[zr1assassin]

Glad that you're keeping the car and hope to see it at a gathering sometime soon...

Cheers,
Scott

I was at the 2018 BG gathering, I'm sure I'll do '19 😉

[zr1assassin]

Glad the OP is keeping his car. The question of value for cars of this age is always problematic because there is a tipping point that happens when the car migrates from "performance" car to "collector" car. For example, C2s - all of them - are now in the collector car realm. The value of any C2 is determined by originality and condition. Any modifications - regardless of how expensive the modification are - detract to the value of the car. The valuation is thus starting with the value of a virgin original car and subtracting the cost of returning the car to original.

When cars are new, modifications tend to increase the value of the car if tastefully done (per the new buyers definition of taste). The only exceptions to these rules seems to be when a well know modifier (like a Yenko for older Chevies or a Lingerfelter for more modern cars) turns these cars into something historically significant when the cars were still new. Race cars that have documented history also seem to be worth more with their modifications. It remains to be seen when C4 ZR-1s take that step from performance car to collector car.

Agreed! I think it may be some time before they cross that line, at least in my eyes they are still more of a performance vehicle

[zr1assassin]

MAN OH MAN! What a back and forth. I set down and talked to the wife tonight about my struggle deciding what do on c4z/c6zr/both and as usual....she is correct. She said I need to choose, not both. Her exact words were "you only have one azz, why 2 cars". And she is right, I went through this when I had my viper and c7z06, I end up ignoring one and it just becomes garage art. .......she's right 😢.
On a positive note, she gave me the "approval" as my Christmas gift on the c6zr1.
So it looks like I really have to make a decision on this. I know I've been back and forth on this guy's and I appreciate your understanding with me basically "thinking out loud", this is the process most of us go through when we're deciding what to keep what to sell, new toys, I'm just doing it out loud on the Forum. This is a really really tough one guys🤔

[Ronstar]

I went thru the same thing a year ago. Wanted a C6 zr1 so bad I couldn’t stop thinking about it. Didn’t really want to sell my big cube c4 zr1. Wife thought I was silly for wanting both.......so I bought it for her!!

[zr1assassin]

I went thru the same thing a year ago. Wanted a C6 zr1 so bad I couldn’t stop thinking about it. Didn’t really want to sell my big cube c4 zr1. Wife thought I was silly for wanting both.......so I bought it for her!!

Lol..... solution I hadn't considered. Although my wife can't drive a stick and "might" be able to tell you the difference between a camaro and Corvette 😂

[G8nightman]

Merry Christmas I just figured out how to unsubscribe :)


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[Ronstar]

Here you go!

[Paul Workman]

I think Bob Gillig put it best (4 me): "MY C6 is just a car. But, the ZR-1 is In my WILL!"

I may buy another Vette, but the ZR-1 stays!

Merry Christmas everyone!

[zr1assassin]

I think Bob Gillig put it best (4 me): "MY C6 is just a car. But, the ZR-1 is In my WILL!"

I may buy another Vette, but the ZR-1 stays!

Merry Christmas everyone!

The question is.... which zr1....🤔

[zr1assassin]

Here you go!

Trade me wives!

[Vette73]

Merry Christmas I just figured out how to unsubscribe :)


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Hey George Merry Xmas...Went to captree last Sunday, last min decision.....Suprised, lots of cars....Maybe will get some good days in January......Will give u heads up..

[Vette73]

The question is.... which zr1....🤔

If there is a benefit in your dilemma is that both are rare.....Very rarely you see a C4Z and the C6ZR1....
Don't think you can go wrong in either decision......C4Z's have crossed into the antique ins.threshold....Mines insured for 29,000 and the rate is around 140 for the year....Of course the C6ZR1 would be a little more than triple the price for the year...Not a big deal at all, just thinking out loud because I have considered the C6ZR1 and I can't keep both as well...

Can't help comparing the C7Z06 to the C6ZR1 because they are both similarly priced.....

Some say the C7Z06 peters out on the top end as compared to the C6ZR1...Maybe,but a few mods to the pulley to increase boost and maybe some cooling mods and wala your there ....

I feel if you can get a C6ZR1 for no more than 50 grand than its a really good deal...Seen many in the asking price of over 70 grand...I'm like, that's not happening..I think even 60-65 thousand is stretching it..Many have super low miles which to me probably has original tires so right there add over a thousand for rubber....

Ok keep us posted....

[BigJohn]

Here you go!



You know that is kind of how I see things.

:cheers:

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Ya know guys, after sitting here thinking it over, rereading some of your comments and to seal the deal, walking down into the garage and looking at her..... I have decided to keep it! With the way the build turned out I honestly think it's one of the best looking c4s out there, (not to seem to full of myself). Its literally got a couple different features that make it the only one on planet earth that has them (brakes/wheels) at least that I'm aware of. I'm keepin it.....I have to, it's to good to let go. Even if I was able to get low 30s out of it I'd be loosing money so why not just keep it. I cant wait until I'm able to take the picture of both z's sitting in the garage, 1 of which will be a c6zr1😉. Thanks for the encouragement and guidance guys...... she stays!

Great decision! The C4 ZR-1 is truly an animal all its own. The only folks that don't realize it are non owners.

Merry Xmas!

[-=Jeff=-]

Great decision! The C4 ZR-1 is truly an animal all its own. The only folks that don't realize it are non owners.

Merry Xmas!

It was.. But the car is listed for sale in the for sale section now

[Blue Flame Restorations]

It was.. But the car is listed for sale in the for sale section now

Oh well....it was enjoyed and well kept. Hope the new buyer enjoys it to the fullest!! These cars are so much fun to drive!

:cheers:

[-=Jeff=-]

Oh well....it was enjoyed and well kept. Hope the new buyer enjoys it to the fullest!! These cars are so much fun to drive!

:cheers:

Yep, how is the convertible coming?

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Yep, how is the convertible coming?

I'm in the middle of making a wide 89 rear bumper for an 89 ZR-1 convertible conversion. I'm good to go after that.

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Now that you have officially placed the car for sale, I'm going to close this thread. I'm leaving the thread here so folks can see and hear how well you cared for the car.

To ALL. The car is now officially for sale in the For Sale section. Please continue your dialogue in the For Sale thread.

:cheers: