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Meanmyz
01-25-2018, 06:20 PM
Have any of you long time ZR-1'ers or market watchers noticed that you just don't see the rarer colors for sale anymore, like you used to? Other than the obvious (that there are fewer of those colors), how come?
As an enthusiast who does not need a ZR-1, but can't help himself, I check out EBay almost as a daily routine for newly listed ZR-1's. I also check out other sites such as our own ZR1.Net's for sale section and Autotrader, etc., every once and a while.
It isn't a knock to more common color ZR's (they are all beautiful), but red or black '90 and '91 ZR-1's were abundantly produced and are always available. I am kind of let down to see the very same ZR-1's listed every time I do a search. In that period of time up until the early/mid 2000's, it wasn't uncommon to see the occasional Black Rose/beige car; a Competition Yellow '94 or '95; a Dark Red metallic or Steel Blue...well you get the picture..
Where have all "these" cars gone? Are the owners holding on to them longer in speculation of future prices? Why don't we see the more uncommon and later year ZR-1's crossing the block very often anymore?
I say "anymore" because other than a few colors, ZR-1's don't seem to be changing owners anymore like they used to.
Meanmyz
01-25-2018, 07:37 PM
After editing about 15 times, I hope my post makes sense as far as the question I was trying to ask.
GOLDCYLON
01-25-2018, 08:09 PM
After editing about 15 times, I hope my post makes sense as far as the question I was trying to ask.
I thought I only did this... I go back and reread and it was not what I thought I typed lol;)
billschroeder5842
01-25-2018, 08:21 PM
As an enthusiast who does not need a ZR-1, but can't help himself, I check out EBay almost as a daily routine for newly listed ZR-1's. I also check out other sites such as our own ZR1.Net's for sale section and Autotrader, etc., every once and a while.
Mee too.... I'm always looking. I'm not sure what I'll find, but I always look.
I never thought about the "rarer colors" but now that you mention it, I'll keep an eye out. My gut tells me that that ZR1 owners "feel" that there is a market movement and are holding on.
Or, if they are like me, they just love their cars and have no plans to sell.
Dark Red Metallic... rare? I'm not so sure...
GOLDCYLON
01-25-2018, 08:31 PM
Mee too.... I'm always looking. I'm not sure what I'll find, but I always look.
I never thought about the "rarer colors" but now that you mention it, I'll keep an eye out. My gut tells me that that ZR1 owners "feel" that there is a market movement and are holding on.
Or, if they are like me, they just love their cars and have no plans to sell.
Dark Red Metallic... rare? I'm not so sure...
DRM is a pretty low number color for ZR-1s as is Arctic White. However steel blue us a pretty rare color, yellow etc
JThomas
01-25-2018, 08:54 PM
I owned a Bright Aqua/Gray 1995 ZR-1, serial #0152. It is currently for sale in Lakeland Florida. It was one of only 13 Bright Aqua ZR-1's produced for the 1995 model year.
JShort
01-25-2018, 09:40 PM
I recently came across a 1991 Quasar Blue ZR-1 for sale. The rarity of the color was a big factor in my decision to buy it.
Young1
01-25-2018, 10:48 PM
I own a 91 Quasar Blue ZR-1 As well. Will be hanging onto it figuring that prices will be better for the rare colors than the common colors.
We Gone
01-25-2018, 11:31 PM
Yep keeping mine....
KILLSHOTS
01-26-2018, 12:30 AM
I recently discovered that a friend of a friend has a Quasar Blue on Black 91 Z. Super nice guy, owns several Vettes, bought the Z because he just thought it was cool. Has no idea that it's "worth more" because it's a beautiful rare color. All the people who care about the C4 ZR-1 are reading this. Sad.
Paul Workman
01-26-2018, 08:03 AM
Attrition. As time passes, Zs are consumed by it - lost to accidents, floods, neglect, hacked to death (i.e., hot-rodders) etc. So, if it was rare to begin with it becomes super rare as more time passes. And, add a new element to the list: taken out of circulation by hoarders and (let's face it...) as owners become OLDER e.g., to supply that "barn find" inventory to be discovered decades from now.:cry:
That's why it's up to US to "KEEP THE LEGEND ALIVE"!:dancing
lfalzarano
01-26-2018, 09:32 AM
Even if prices skyrocket, I’d still keep my Z. I just love to be it’s caretaker and drive it on nice days. It’s just so special to me and so enjoyable to drive. JM2C’s!
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EvanZR1
01-26-2018, 01:43 PM
DRM is a pretty low number color for ZR-1s as is Arctic White. However steel blue us a pretty rare color, yellow etc
Love my steel blue, and yes they seem to be getting rarer. When Dave was restoring mine, he got the interior out of a 40K mile donor steel blue ZR-1. So the reported production numbers (11 in 90 and 46 in 91) is at least one smaller (and probably several more than that). I think mine's the only steel blue I've seen for sale in at least the last 6 months.
Ls7/Ls9 Test Engineer
01-27-2018, 09:42 AM
As I think all of the ZR-1 colors are nice....There is just something about a bright RED Corvette that moves me.
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DRM500RUBYZR-1
01-27-2018, 10:07 AM
As I think all of the ZR-1 colors are nice....There is just something about a bright RED Corvette that moves me.
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You are not alone!
Many think the same way, as do I.
Maybe because fire trucks, wagons and tricycles are red?
Marty
Ls7/Ls9 Test Engineer
01-27-2018, 10:08 AM
I even married a Red head..;)...lol
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Mystic ZR-1
01-27-2018, 12:14 PM
You are not alone!
Many think the same way, as do I.
Maybe because fire trucks, wagons and tricycles are red?
Marty
... and of course, as we ALL know, the red one's are fastest!!!
Vette73
01-27-2018, 01:15 PM
I too follow pricing trends and advertised 90-95 Zs for sale...Its true, not many so called rare colors available, mostly black and of course red...
Who knows, maybe some owners are holding on to them or they are just gone for one reason or another...
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SBAquaLT5
01-28-2018, 12:44 AM
Being a kid of the 90s, I always liked these cars but never started paying attention to the colors until last year when I got my Bright Aqua 93. I needed another car like a hole in my foot, but it wasn't likely I was going to find another like it! I was actually surprised how long it was on the local market.
XfireZ51
01-28-2018, 12:53 AM
Being a kid of the 90s, I always liked these cars but never started paying attention to the colors until last year when I got my Bright Aqua 93. I needed another car like a hole in my foot, but it wasn't likely I was going to find another like it! I was actually surprised how long it was on the local market.
My first and only Corvette my wife ever liked was Aqua w gray interior. I love that color also. 1992 ZR-1 #474. But Black Rose is a very classic color.
GOLDCYLON
01-28-2018, 01:03 AM
My first and only Corvette my wife ever liked was Aqua w gray interior. I love that color also. 1992 ZR-1 #474. But Black Rose is a very classic color.
Dom we remember your Aqua Z :cheers:
JThomas
01-28-2018, 11:26 AM
My first and only Corvette my wife ever liked was Aqua w gray interior. I love that color also. 1992 ZR-1 #474. But Black Rose is a very classic color.
I'm a fan of the Bright Aqua as well, but there's something about a Melon Copper Metallic ZR-1 that says "Unique" to me! :cheers:
Meanmyz
01-30-2018, 04:03 PM
Hi guys, I was gone over the weekend and was happily surprised to see the thread continue, when I checked it Monday. I do try to post only when I have a keyboard in front of me...typing (texting) from my phone always becomes an exercise in frustration!
All good posts! Thanks guys!
DRM500RUBYZR-1
01-30-2018, 04:32 PM
Have any of you long time ZR-1'ers or market watchers noticed that you just don't see the rarer colors for sale anymore, like you used to? Other than the obvious (that there are fewer of those colors), how come?
As an enthusiast who does not need a ZR-1, but can't help himself, I check out EBay almost as a daily routine for newly listed ZR-1's. I also check out other sites such as our own ZR1.Net's for sale section and Autotrader, etc., every once and a while.
It isn't a knock to more common color ZR's (they are all beautiful), but red or black '90 and '91 ZR-1's were abundantly produced and are always available. I am kind of let down to see the very same ZR-1's listed every time I do a search. In that period of time up until the early/mid 2000's, it wasn't uncommon to see the occasional Black Rose/beige car; a Competition Yellow '94 or '95; a Dark Red metallic or Steel Blue...well you get the picture..
Where have all "these" cars gone? Are the owners holding on to them longer in speculation of future prices? Why don't we see the more uncommon and later year ZR-1's crossing the block very often anymore?
I say "anymore" because other than a few colors, ZR-1's don't seem to be changing owners anymore like they used to.
It does appear that those that own the rarer colors put them up for sale far less often.
While speculation cannot be ruled out as a motive, it might be equally plausible that they just love the color and car more and more. Couple this with the knowledge that they would find it hard to replace if they ever let it go, and maybe they just do not want to take the risk of selling something that is nearly irreplaceable.
While there are always newer and better, sometimes you just want what is most meaningful to you. I would enjoy a C-6 or a C-7 ZR-1, but would not consider selling my Ruby. I am not keeping it for future value and also understand that a hearse has no car trailer hitch. I keep it because it is a mini vacation every time I look at, play with it or drive it. Things change, but that feeling has remained the same for over 20 years. Maybe those with the rarer colors, or even the common ones feel the same as I do.
Marty
Meanmyz
01-30-2018, 05:24 PM
Marty, this pretty much sums it up for me too (about the ZR-1 being "the car" for me). For that, it doesn't matter the color and I never meant to infer one was better than the other (of course some of you know think red is the fastest!). Maybe it is my age group coupled with the memories of the car in its heyday, but I think I will always have to have a C4 ZR-1, because that is the car that does it for me.
You have answered the original question well.
It does appear that those that own the rarer colors put them up for sale far less often.
While speculation cannot be ruled out as a motive, it might be equally plausible that they just love the color and car more and more. Couple this with the knowledge that they would find it hard to replace if they ever let it go, and maybe they just do not want to take the risk of selling something that is nearly irreplaceable.
While there are always newer and better, sometimes you just want what is most meaningful to you. I would enjoy a C-6 or a C-7 ZR-1, but would not consider selling my Ruby. I am not keeping it for future value and also understand that a hearse has no car trailer hitch. I keep it because it is a mini vacation every time I look at, play with it or drive it. Things change, but that feeling has remained the same for over 20 years. Maybe those with the rarer colors, or even the common ones feel the same as I do.
Marty
lfalzarano
01-30-2018, 05:27 PM
I always threaten my kids that I want to be buried in my ZR-1. Love that car!
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XfireZ51
01-30-2018, 08:24 PM
Black Rose w Cognac here Mary preceded by Aqua/Gray.
Classic color combination, not flashy but imposing. It looks serious. I have typically gotten tired of my cars over time. Not the ZR. It rewards me every time I drive it altho there is an occasional hiccup. A 27 year old car that remains relevant today.
Just the other day, Pete and I were at his favorite Greek fast food place. A younger Asian man coming into the restaurant. He did a double take when he saw the ZR-1 tags on the hood. He came in and ordered then noticed that Pete was wearing a jacket w ZR-1 near the shoulder. He approached and asked if it was Pete's Corvette but Pete responded that it was mine. We talked a bit and then I invited him to come take a closer look. He had already taken a few pics of it.
I opened the hood to give him a thrill, and he was in awe of the motor having never seen a ZR-1 before. He thought the plenum was amazing. I went one step further, and started the motor. He stood behind it taking in and recording the exhaust note on his phone. BTW, I opened both outlets for him.
Very cool to have a younger person appreciate the ZR. As someone once told me, the C4 ZRs are the unicorns of the Corvette world.
;):)
mcich7781
01-31-2018, 04:06 PM
I own a Metallic Turquoise 91 ZR-1 and I also check Ebay and the Internet "Daily" to try to find another Turquoise Z. Other than the Steel Blue car that was recently purchased not many rare colors seem to surface, and certainly not Turquoise. Women always seem to love that color, guys give it mixed reviews.
If I can find a comparable car I like as much I plan on buying it and getting my car back to the son of a previous owner. With only ninety something possible 91 turquoise cars to choose from I might have to wait a while for another to come up for sale.
Arctic91
01-31-2018, 06:16 PM
If I can find a comparable car I like as much I plan on buying it and getting my car back to the son of a previous owner. With only ninety something possible 91 turquoise cars to choose from I might have to wait a while for another to come up for sale.
Within the past year, I've seen one '91 Turquoise ZR-1 listed on a popular auction site and two were sold on BAT, but it is true that you don't see them listed very often.
I have a '90 Turquoise ZR-1 (1 of 16) that may be listed for sale next summer.
Cheers,
Scott
G8nightman
01-31-2018, 08:02 PM
I own a Metallic Turquoise 91 ZR-1 and I also check Ebay and the Internet "Daily" to try to find another Turquoise Z. Other than the Steel Blue car that was recently purchased not many rare colors seem to surface, and certainly not Turquoise. Women always seem to love that color, guys give it mixed reviews.
If I can find a comparable car I like as much I plan on buying it and getting my car back to the son of a previous owner. With only ninety something possible 91 turquoise cars to choose from I might have to wait a while for another to come up for sale.
If price is right might sell you mine :salute:
mcich7781
02-01-2018, 01:11 PM
If price is right might sell you mine :salute:You have a beautiful car. As time goes on you never know I might inquire.
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