Log in

View Full Version : Barrett Jackson Scottsdale


Vette73
01-18-2018, 08:03 PM
Ok if I see one more truck from the 50's cross the block I'm turning on re runs of Seinfeld....

80 grand for a K-5 blazer with an LS-3? Really ? Talk about money to burn...I would have rather bought the 2006 Bently for 56,000 I saw the other night...I think the original sticker was $ 225,000..

Different strokes for different folks I guess..

Sent from my LG-TP260 using ZR-1 Net Registry mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=90383)

billschroeder5842
01-18-2018, 08:54 PM
Yeah, I tried to watch as well. When I saw a 1990 Pontiac Trans Am for for about 30k, I knew that the end times were near.

efnfast
01-19-2018, 06:15 AM
Crazy stuff.
Do we have anything coming across the block?

doctorjay61
01-19-2018, 08:22 AM
Yea I watched just about every episode. I don't understand the early 90s Broncos and blazers that sell for the low 20s. I worked at a used car lot in the late 90s and we were lucky to get 6 or 7 grand. These ones crossing the blocks aren't low mileage examples either. Also don't understand how a 500 cc micro car can fetch in the low 40s while our cars are in the low 20s

Sent from my SM-G950U using ZR-1 Net Registry mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=90383)

randy ransome
01-19-2018, 09:10 AM
Yea I watched just about every episode. I don't understand the early 90s Broncos and blazers that sell for the low 20s. I worked at a used car lot in the late 90s and we were lucky to get 6 or 7 grand. These ones crossing the blocks aren't low mileage examples either. Also don't understand how a 500 cc micro car can fetch in the low 40s while our cars are in the low 20s

Sent from my SM-G950U using ZR-1 Net Registry mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=90383)

Money doesn't = Brains...




:USFlag:

Ccmano
01-19-2018, 10:58 AM
After years of loosely following these auctions I’ve come to the conclusion that these people operate in a world of their own. The buyers, sellers, traders and companies that cater to them seem to feed off each other. Often with more money in play than good sense. The pricing has little relevance to street pricing or demand. I spent 30yrs in the high end car business and have seen little correlation the real world.
H
:cheers:

XfireZ51
01-19-2018, 11:14 AM
I snicker when watching this and listening to the commentators talk about “neck snapping”acceleration from a muscle car that did 13’s.

Vette73
01-19-2018, 11:15 AM
Yea I watched just about every episode. I don't understand the early 90s Broncos and blazers that sell for the low 20s. I worked at a used car lot in the late 90s and we were lucky to get 6 or 7 grand. These ones crossing the blocks aren't low mileage examples either. Also don't understand how a 500 cc micro car can fetch in the low 40s while our cars are in the low 20s

Sent from my SM-G950U using ZR-1 Net Registry mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=90383)
If Corvette performance dropped off after 95 like it did in the 70's and 80's,than I feel the Z would be commanding a lot more money...

Of course this is a hypothetical situation....Technology has just come such a long way since the C4 Z...There was no performance for these cars after 1970 until the ZR-1 came along..

Since the ZR-1 you had the C5 Z06,C6 Z06 and of course the C6 ZR1......All of these cars I mentioned are not bringing in a lot of money right now.....I don't think they ever will.....

Most people are bitten by the technology bug and just want the latest fastest flashiest car with a warranty....Thing is,they can get it,which leaves some of the cars I mentioned behind....

The Corvette enthusiast know the C4 Z bought Corvette back into the limelight..
After years of loosely following these auctions I’ve come to the conclusion that these people operate in a world of their own. The buyers, sellers, traders and companies that cater to them seem to feed off each other. Often with more money in play than good sense. The pricing has little relevance to street pricing or demand. I spent 30yrs in the high end car business and have seen little correlation the real world.
H
:cheers:

Money doesn't = Brains...




:USFlag:


Sent from my LG-TP260 using ZR-1 Net Registry mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=90383)

doctorjay61
01-19-2018, 01:01 PM
If Corvette performance dropped off after 95 like it did in the 70's and 80's,than I feel the Z would be commanding a lot more money...

Of course this is a hypothetical situation....Technology has just come such a long way since the C4 Z...There was no performance for these cars after 1970 until the ZR-1 came along..

Since the ZR-1 you had the C5 Z06,C6 Z06 and of course the C6 ZR1......All of these cars I mentioned are not bringing in a lot of money right now.....I don't think they ever will.....

Most people are bitten by the technology bug and just want the latest fastest flashiest car with a warranty....Thing is,they can get it,which leaves some of the cars I mentioned behind....

The Corvette enthusiast know the C4 Z bought Corvette back into the limelight..





Sent from my LG-TP260 using ZR-1 Net Registry mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=90383)I completely agree. That's why I think the Bronco and blazer prices keep going up. There is a market for a 2 door full size suv and they aren't available anymore. I myself would like one but don't want to pay the prices they command. I'm sure if they offered a 2 door option on the new Tahoe or upcoming Bronco that prices would eventually go down.

Sent from my SM-G950U using ZR-1 Net Registry mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=90383)

PhillipsLT5
01-19-2018, 07:30 PM
Very low miles 90 going on Saturday red/red


Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=90383)

Vette73
01-19-2018, 07:49 PM
Very low miles 90 going on Saturday red/red


Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=90383)

Be interesting to see what it brings.....I saw on corvette forum a 77 red Vette with I believe around 900 miles bought in $ 33,000.....T -top L-48 with automatic transmission......Car of course retained all of its originality from 1977........

Very strong money if you ask me.....

efnfast
01-19-2018, 08:12 PM
Everything is going for 100 plus. Crazy.

PhillipsLT5
01-20-2018, 07:09 AM
SAT car, usually these cars are not FRI or SAT cars, maybe some love, http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1990-CHEVROLET-CORVETTE-ZR1-214596

PhillipsLT5
01-20-2018, 07:12 AM
Thurs car, http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1990-CHEVROLET-CORVETTE-COUPE-215267, @ 31,900

Vette73
01-21-2018, 12:21 AM
SAT car, usually these cars are not FRI or SAT cars, maybe some love, http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1990-CHEVROLET-CORVETTE-ZR1-214596
Just saw that one.....$ 34,000....???....Meanwhile a 96 grand sport convertible with 94 miles sold for $57,000......

" The one mistake Chevy made with the ZR-1 is not giving it enough bling to stand out from the standard C-4".....Quote from one of the announcers....

Sent from my LG-TP260 using ZR-1 Net Registry mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=90383)

Z51JEFF
01-21-2018, 05:40 AM
There were cars there getting stupid money,$240,000 for a hot rod 67 Nova? I like Novas just about as much as I like my Corvettes but the market for a $240,000 Nova just isn’t there. Seen this over the years where somebody pays big then sells it a few years later @ almost half of what was paid. Some good buys were there as well,$60,000 for a 78 Pacecar with no miles.

daniels
01-21-2018, 07:01 AM
The red 90 ZR-1 went for $42,900 including fees but the 96 Grand sport convertible went for $62,700 incl fees. I don't get it, sure it´s a rare convertible but the Z is so much more special and significant. I guess some people just like flashy paint jobs.

G-Sting
01-21-2018, 07:37 AM
There were cars there getting stupid money,$240,000 for a hot rod 67 Nova? I like Novas just about as much as I like my Corvettes but the market for a $240,000 Nova just isn’t there. Seen this over the years where somebody pays big then sells it a few years later @ almost half of what was paid. Some good buys were there as well,$60,000 for a 78 Pacecar with no miles.

Wow... a Nova for that? Do you have a link to that car?

Paul Workman
01-21-2018, 07:42 AM
The red 90 ZR-1 went for $42,900 including fees but the 96 Grand sport convertible went for $62,700 incl fees. I don't get it, sure it´s a rare convertible but the Z is so much more special and significant. I guess some people just like flashy paint jobs.

Yup! Bling over Zing, just about every time.

Maybe if Burt Reynolds and Sally Field filmed a "Bandit" sequel in one, things would be different! Except for the L88 cars, it's BLING over ZING every time. :cry:

Well.... I don't GAS what others are selling for. I've got mine and intend to keep it until I can't drive it no mo.

Vette73
01-21-2018, 07:46 AM
The red 90 ZR-1 went for $42,900 including fees but the 96 Grand sport convertible went for $62,700 incl fees. I don't get it, sure it´s a rare convertible but the Z is so much more special and significant. I guess some people just like flashy paint jobs.
You know I was watching the Z auction and the last price they mentioned was I believe 34,000 before they went for break....

Saturday is a big money day for Barrett Jackson.....I think one of the members-Ccmano said in a previous post,these bidders are in a world of there own when it comes to bidding...Most I feel are retirees bidding on these high dollar cars......Houses paid off,kids out of college,hey,let me go buy a high dollar collectible.....

Hard to gauge the market I feel when there are these kind of bidders...

Very surprised to see that Grand sport fetch that kind of money.....On the other hand,good for a C4 generation to demand that money...

Sent from my LG-TP260 using ZR-1 Net Registry mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=90383)

PhillipsLT5
01-21-2018, 09:35 AM
pics
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipP8rfbStjkDAElFUPogscul0d7nIYMernqHHLPDr3CpIa II7DGsdWR7yrx9fClkag?key=MGd6OTVnanZNYkc4QktvLTcya lhsSU5QV2JVSHdR

lfalzarano
01-21-2018, 09:40 AM
Nice pics!


Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=90383)

DRM500RUBYZR-1
01-21-2018, 09:41 AM
The red 90 ZR-1 went for $42,900 including fees but the 96 Grand sport convertible went for $62,700 incl fees. I don't get it, sure it´s a rare convertible but the Z is so much more special and significant. I guess some people just like flashy paint jobs.

While I did not see this car, if it was an ultra low mile GS, and if red interior,
60k plus is a very good but fair number for buyer and seller.
They only made 1000 verts, narrow it down to red interior , then reduce much further if really low miles, and there you go.
6900 ZR-1's versus a few hundred GS's with red and drop top, and yes, those cars will ALWAYS command a premium into the future!
Wish I had a few.
:cheers:
Marty

DRM500RUBYZR-1
01-21-2018, 09:48 AM
Be interesting to see what it brings.....I saw on corvette forum a 77 red Vette with I believe around 900 miles bought in $ 33,000.....T -top L-48 with automatic transmission......Car of course retained all of its originality from 1977........

Very strong money if you ask me.....

While I do indeed like, not love, but really like 77's, the rest of the world usually views them as the most pedestrian of Corvettes AT THIS TIME.
L-48?
Auto?
Couldn't get much LESS desirable.
Red!!!
Hmmm, that is a big plus.
BUT 900 miles!!!
There you go!
How many sub 1000 mile cars are left?
Worth $33,000.00?
Yes.
Certainly proved it that day.
Now if he puts more than 90 some miles on it while he owns it, stand back so that you don't get hit with the falling value!
Such is the finicky collector car market.
:cheers:
Marty

Ccmano
01-21-2018, 10:33 AM
Insane... as far as I’m concerned. I was watching last night and watched a cobbled together restomod 58’ Corvette go for $250k. Parts from various years, even on the body, and a new LT4 engine. Admittedly nicely executed but $250k? It’s their money and they can do what they want. I just don’t see the attraction or the investment value. Guess if you have millions (or more) it doesn’t really matter.
H
:cheers:

Z51JEFF
01-21-2018, 03:02 PM
The over blown prices @B-J seems to go in fazes. People pay over the top for something then when the boredom of the new purchase sets in you will see it at another auction at a greatly discounted price.

Mystic ZR-1
01-21-2018, 03:05 PM
The red 90 ZR-1 went for $42,900 including fees but the 96 Grand sport convertible went for $62,700 incl fees. I don't get it, sure it´s a rare convertible but the Z is so much more special and significant. I guess some people just like flashy paint jobs.

$10000 car
$52700 paint/stripe job

GOLDCYLON
01-21-2018, 03:56 PM
The red 90 ZR-1 went for $42,900 including fees but the 96 Grand sport convertible went for $62,700 incl fees. I don't get it, sure it´s a rare convertible but the Z is so much more special and significant. I guess some people just like flashy paint jobs.

Yes it's a fancy paint job and yes the LT4 was available in 1996 in non Grand Sports and other 96's like the Collector Edition. HOWEVER there were only 1000 Grand Sports produced and there were more Coupes than Convertables. Only 190 GS Convertables were made so that coupled with low miles in original condition IS the value. Add to that there are not 1000 left on the road due to accidents etc. GC

daniels
01-21-2018, 05:28 PM
Does anyone know why the Grand sport convertibles didn't get the fender flares in the back like the coupes? Are the convertible fenders wider?

daniels
01-21-2018, 05:35 PM
Never mind, they just put skinnier wheels and tires on the convertibles for some reason.

RichS
01-21-2018, 06:59 PM
Does anyone know why the Grand sport convertibles didn't get the fender flares in the back like the coupes? Are the convertible fenders wider?

It was because if you got a flat the 315 rear tire will not fit inside the car. The coups like the ZR-1 comes with the pouch and straps to put the 315 tire in back. It will not fit in the spare carrier either, only the front tire will.

Z51JEFF
01-21-2018, 08:59 PM
Wow... a Nova for that? Do you have a link to that car?

I’ve got a picture of the car but can’t post it. The car looks nothing like what was paid for it.

G-Sting
01-22-2018, 06:42 AM
I’ve got a picture of the car but can’t post it. The car looks nothing like what was paid for it.

No problem, Z51JEFF. Thank you for checking.

d15b7
01-22-2018, 09:31 AM
more amazing to me was watching the Fox body mustangs go through the sale. they were all extremely nice and most were totally stock and low low miles (under 10k) but holy cow $40k for a 93 convertible with 8k miles? these prices are coming from the 'I had one when I was 20 yrs old and now I want to relive my youth' I think.

not many folks who bought new ZR-1s were in their youth! haha. I never owned a Fox body but I did own a 96 SVT Cobra; it was a nice car and did things well. but it isn't even in the same galaxy as my 90 ZR-1 in performance or handling!

one day, it'll be like a switch goes off and suddenly our ZR-1s will become 'hot'. I honestly believe that will become a fact. but I don't really care that much because I've wanted to own one since I was 20 yrs old and 3 yrs ago I finally had the means and I love driving my stock '90 (sparingly cause it only has 9k miles on it) on a nice sunny day blasting around on the back roads :) and I don't ever really plan on selling it until i'm unable to push in a clutch and row them gears!

XfireZ51
01-22-2018, 09:43 AM
more amazing to me was watching the Fox body mustangs go through the sale. they were all extremely nice and most were totally stock and low low miles (under 10k) but holy cow $40k for a 93 convertible with 8k miles? these prices are coming from the 'I had one when I was 20 yrs old and now I want to relive my youth' I think.

not many folks who bought new ZR-1s were in their youth! haha. I never owned a Fox body but I did own a 96 SVT Cobra; it was a nice car and did things well. but it isn't even in the same galaxy as my 90 ZR-1 in performance or handling!

one day, it'll be like a switch goes off and suddenly our ZR-1s will become 'hot'. I honestly believe that will become a fact. but I don't really care that much because I've wanted to own one since I was 20 yrs old and 3 yrs ago I finally had the means and I love driving my stock '90 (sparingly cause it only has 9k miles on it) on a nice sunny day blasting around on the back roads :) and I don't ever really plan on selling it until i'm unable to push in a clutch and row them gears!

Maybe somebody will have an Aha! moment.

Vette73
01-22-2018, 10:26 AM
Maybe somebody will have an Aha! moment.
I had years ago the last year 5.0 Mustang,a 95 convertible.......Nice car....I found the 5.0 over rated....Nice car yes, but I would hardly call it a performance car.......Don't even think about using it in the rain or snow....

Sent from my LG-TP260 using ZR-1 Net Registry mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=90383)

randy ransome
01-22-2018, 11:08 AM
more amazing to me was watching the Fox body mustangs go through the sale. they were all extremely nice and most were totally stock and low low miles (under 10k) but holy cow $40k for a 93 convertible with 8k miles? these prices are coming from the 'I had one when I was 20 yrs old and now I want to relive my youth' I think.

not many folks who bought new ZR-1s were in their youth! haha. I never owned a Fox body but I did own a 96 SVT Cobra; it was a nice car and did things well. but it isn't even in the same galaxy as my 90 ZR-1 in performance or handling!

one day, it'll be like a switch goes off and suddenly our ZR-1s will become 'hot'. I honestly believe that will become a fact. but I don't really care that much because I've wanted to own one since I was 20 yrs old and 3 yrs ago I finally had the means and I love driving my stock '90 (sparingly cause it only has 9k miles on it) on a nice sunny day blasting around on the back roads :) and I don't ever really plan on selling it until i'm unable to push in a clutch and row them gears!

You've got the car you've wanted sense you were a kid, you say you're going to keep it forever, you should Drive it every time you take the notion to. Don't "save it" like so many others do. With only 9K on it you're just getting started...Enjoy.



:USFlag:

XfireZ51
01-22-2018, 11:18 AM
I had years ago the last year 5.0 Mustang,a 95 convertible.......Nice car....I found the 5.0 over rated....Nice car yes, but I would hardly call it a performance car.......Don't even think about using it in the rain or snow....

Sent from my LG-TP260 using ZR-1 Net Registry mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=90383)

Mustangs have been notorious in slippery conditions. More so than Vettes for some reason

G-Sting
01-22-2018, 01:05 PM
Mustangs have been notorious in slippery conditions. More so than Vettes for some reason

Front engine and 205/65R15 rear bicycle tires. :mrgreen:

XfireZ51
01-22-2018, 02:12 PM
Front engine and 205/65R15 rear bicycle tires. :mrgreen:

Yeah the Challengers are like that too. Even the newer stuff has ridiculous size tires for that much power.

rush91
01-23-2018, 08:25 AM
I'm not surprised at all of the prices of the GS Vettes.......they we're more limited in production than our Z's, and it was the last year of the C4. Low mileage ones will keep going up in value, production of 1000 units will always Trump 6900 units.......if one can live with that paint job, more power to you. The thing that makes me pissed of, is the Trans Ams going for stupid prices now. And I'm talking any Trans Am. I get they are no longer in production but PLEASE!!!!!!! The next that will follow suit is the Iroc Z, and Camaros. We will never see the prices our Z's originally we're ( being $65 - 70,000 ) that has come and gone. The only way I could see that is on a super super low mileage, rare color car.....with that in mind, is why everyone should grab your Beasts keys today, and take her for a spin. They are meant to be on the road

Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk