Delamination Poll

[Z Factor]

Does your windshield have any delamination or is it in great shape?

[jonszr1]

I guess i am lucky I have 2 90s no delam at all

[BLACK90ZR1]

:-DI have 90 ZR1 #843 with no delamation, but it has very low mileage, and stays in the garage all the time. Maybe this has something to do with it.
Fenwick Binder

[Jeffvette]

:-DI have 90 ZR1 #843 with no delamation, but it has very low mileage, and stays in the garage all the time. Maybe this has something to do with it.
Fenwick Binder


Doesn't matter, The last ZR-1 has been in the museum from day one and it has the worst delam. From my experience the 90's seem to have less delam problems than the 91-95 cars.

[tccrab]

My '90 has no delamination at all.

TomC
'90ZR1 #792

[Peaven]

I have some delam, but it is very slight. Hardly noticeable at all...for now, anyway.

[Hammer]

I have some delam, but it is very slight. Hardly noticeable at all...for now, anyway.

Some delam around the edges, not to bad though.

[RICKYRJ1]

I have delam on my 95. I have seen worse and I have seen better just tired of people telling me my windsheild is dirty.:mad:

[93RubyZ]

My '93 has some, but it's relatively minor and only around the edges that you can see it (so far).

[91King]

Mine has very minor delam around the edges of the windshield.

[RedSled]

Good glass on mine. 21,000 mi and no delam.

Cheers, Keith

'90, red/red, #1383

[bobbyhi]

63K on my clock and no delam:mrgreen: :cheers:

[WB9MCW]

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o128/wb9mcw/zr1delampic.jpg

MINOR AND ALL ALONG THE TOP --- SOME YOU CAN SEE IN THE MIDDLE BUT U HAVE TO HAVE JUST THE RIGHT ANGLE TO SEE IT---NOT TOO BAD IMO--- 60K ON MY Z NOW

[Dave 90ZR-1]

No delamination on mine.
1990
#3031
7000 miles

[tomtom72]

Not yet on my 90.....that is it isn't noticable unless you look at the right angle for it. Tiny bubble-like formations can be seen in the right light and at the right angle....almost looks like streaks from a bad wiper blade. I can even see them from the inside of the car when I clean the glass, the Stoners makes them show up till you wipe it off.

Oh well, 22K miles and if it gets to where I can't see I'll do something about it. Until then I'll just drive & have fun!:mrgreen:

:cheers:
Tom
Update :) 6 yrs down the road & another 22k miles added on to Her.
64k now and the bubble streaks have not worsened, still need moisture & the right angle to see them from inside the car. Can't be seen from a driving position & not visible from outside. The edges are starting to show a very little bit in the corners. Oh well, nothing lasts forever.

[BBBAD94ZR1]

I have a 94 second windshield with delam. Was replaced for bad delam.
Guess I have to live with it.
RAY

[TommyL]

90 with no delam at all and a 93 with very slight delam around the edges. I do have a perfect 92-95 windshield with 0 delam.

[ArcticZR1]

I have a little bit of Delam. 91' ZR1

[blackjack]

i have slight delam on both sides...for various reasons,my windshield could be a 90,i havent check the date-if there is one.:???:
bj
91/1735

[Z Factor]

90 with no delam at all and a 93 with very slight delam around the edges. I do have a perfect 92-95 windshield with 0 delam.

I am sure it will bring a hefty price if you decide to sell it, but you might want to keep it for future needs.

:cheers:

[guinnessdood]

My delamination is very slight...but it's there.

[TommyL]

I am sure it will bring a hefty price if you decide to sell it, but you might want to keep it for future needs.

:cheers:

I would consider selling it. I have shipped one to California...had it professionally created and it arrived in perfect condition.

[Ccmano]

Has anyone noticed that the data shows some thing interesting. All the years except 1990 are showing more delaminations than not. 1990 is the opposite by a long shot. Many more good windshields than delams. Wonder if something changed in production along the line?
Hans:cheers:

[ffvetteman]

I checked that my 92 has delam, even though my windhsield has been replaced.

It was replaced, as I was told, for delam.

[A26B]

Interesting coincidence: 93, 94 & 95 all have 4 with delam & all had same number made ea year!

[WB9MCW]

Hi Jerry good to see you posting---We have been talking of your ZR-1 lately

http://zr1netregistry.com/forum/showthread.php?p=10029#post10029

[11.72@119.26]

my 90 has 28000 miles & has always been garaged no delam!

[Belsy]

I have a 90 with no delam and a 91 with delam
After seeing the last built 95 ZR-1 at NCM with delam I am convinced it is caused by bad sealling of the original glass layers??

Any real knowledge out there??:blahblah:

[ajaxajax2000]

I have a '92 with 45K miles. No delam.

Peter

[HIZNHRZ]

I have had delamination in two out of two 91's.

[cuisinartvette]

Well, after 2 years of ownership I finally noticed a little starting in the upper DS corner while washing it yesterday. Cant complain, its 17 yrs old, none of the chips or pitting has cracked YET so this doesnt bother me.

Car is always covered and garaged fwiw.

[ZR1Vette]

90 and have delam in upper corners

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/MRBLU/ZR1delamII.jpg

[flyin ryan]

my 90 had a little de-lam but also had a 45° crack in the upper RH corner so i changed it out for a standard shield. i would have maybe put one of KW's in but he was a long way from getting those underway at the time. my 93 Ruby has some de-lam, not real bad but not great either:dontknow: my 95 had a standard shield in when i bought it. found out it was put in under warrenty in 2000. was actually six years from the in service date? i'm guessing they agreed to put a regular shield in just to keep the guy happy at that point, but i'm not 100% sure of anything on that deal.

[Z51JEFF]

My 91 has a little.At his point its not a problem.I replaced the windshield in my 84 a few years ago,not looking forward to doing that again.http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a136/FLYTYM/Corvette054Small.jpg

[Jim Nolan]

I have a '92 with delamination.

[zr1don]

1990 with no delamination.

[ZR1North]

Does your windshield have any delamination or is it in great shape?

It's interesting that the '95 at the Museum even has delamination. Given that it has been in a climate controlled environment "from birth" I think, that would seem to rule out environmental conditions as a contirbutor to this issue with ZR-1 shields.

My '91 has a little on each side. I guess if Cindy Crawford can have a mole, Zees can have some delam!

[JThomas]

My '92 has it, but the car wears it as a badge of honor, like the chips on the clam shell and the 106,000 miles!

[95ZR1]

This windshield is now in the trash. Replaced it with one of the Saint-Gobains from a few years ago.

http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae144/95zr1/windshieldandbirds001.jpg

This '95 only has 14K on it, and spent most of its life in the garage. I believe a solvent was used to clean the solar shield during the lamination process, and the solvent caused the delamination. I say this because of the streaks I could see all over the glass. It looked like I just wiped off my windshield with a dirty rag, but the streaks were between the layers.

It's hard to see because of the reflections, but there are streaks all over the glass, and you can see delamination all around the perimeter and even around the radar cutout.

http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae144/95zr1/windshieldandbirds004.jpg

[jcruz]

I just picked up 1992 #043 -- some delamination. It's noticeable but it looks much worse in the picture!

http://www.cruzeware.com/1992-043/windshield2.jpg

[carmine]

Mine Has None 1990 Black Gray #357

[robrtr]

My garage queen has a little around the edges.

[Kevin]

can i change my vote? my 90 has started showing just a bit of it

[zrmynatt]

My 92' which I purchased new and keep garaged when not driven, would win the award
for the "Worst Case of Delamination of any ZR-1 Ever Built".

[scottfab]

My 92' which I purchased new and keep garaged when not driven, would win the award
for the "Worst Case of Delamination of any ZR-1 Ever Built".

Post a pic. We need evidence of worst of the worst:-({|=

[mike100]

I've been having thoughts of buying a regular $300 windshield so I can run a mirror mounted radar detector. Also, it's illegal in CA to use suction cup mounts or put on decals etc on the glass except for the corners.

[BigBlock 72]

I own a 92 with about 8K miles. I got it with 5200 on the odometer. No delamination. Hope it stays that way!

[JimZRyd]

94 here with 11K miles and no delamination to note.

[icarus-54]

No delam on my 90

[Vetman]

My 1990 # 2441 has no delamination.

[JThomas]

My 1995, #152 has it, but the windshield is from an earlier model. (Wide radar cutout)

The car was a GM Proving Grounds car, so who knows if the windshield was replaced in its past or what.

[Vetman]

Jonszr1. You are lucky BECAUSE you have 2 zr-1's.

[dredgeguy]

My 92 has delamination around the edges

[TheBlackPearl]

None on my 90.

[8cam]

90 with just a little in the upper drivers corner.

[JFFerner]

My '90 has been replaced once already and is dellaminating around the edges again.

[USAZR1]

Our 94 has just a small amount in the upper drivers corner.

[trobey]

Minor delamination around top edges of the windshield
1993 black/black #0047 w/7500 miles
Tom

[Paul Workman]

All delam?

My 90 had about 1.5 to 2.0" of delam around the periphery. In 2014 I replaced it with a standard C4 (Safelite) windshield.

What I immediately noticed was the clarity of the new glass; not just the absence of the typical delamination at the periphery, but clarity was remarkable by comparison - especially when facing the sun.

I suppose there might have been a couple decades of micro scratches (like patina) on the glass, but it wasn't due to not being clean. (I'm fanatical about clean glass; the photographer in me, I guess...).

Just my .02, but unless you are harboring an NCRS candidate, I would recommend to anyone to consider changing out the ZR-1 glass if it is the least bit annoying. I love the (clear) look, and the tinting is perfect (for me). I've not missed that original glass for a friggin' microsecond. LOVE the new 'winder'!

FWIW, YMMV! :dancing

[Dynomite]

All delam?

Just my .02, but unless you are harboring an NCRS candidate, I would recommend to anyone to consider changing out the ZR-1 glass if it is the least bit annoying. I love the (clear) look, and the tinting is perfect (for me). I've not missed that original glass for a friggin' microsecond. LOVE the new 'winder'!

FWIW, YMMV! :dancing

This is what I call DELAMINATION ;)
Got a new windshield on the way.

But my Heater Core Leak looked about as bad except rather than DELAMINATION it was FOG :D

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/dynomite007/Dynomite13/f02ffc9f-6db6-46ad-9ae1-890138857c47.jpg

[Paul Workman]

This is what I call DELAMINATION ;)
Got a new windshield on the way.

But my Heater Core Leak looked about as bad except rather than DELAMINATION it was FOG :D

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/dynomite007/Dynomite13/f02ffc9f-6db6-46ad-9ae1-890138857c47.jpg

Yes! That's what I'm talking about, except mine was not that bad. But, it did cover the entire w/s (faintly tho...).

[Bob Eyres]

My 91' has delamination around the edges, and spends most of it's time in the garage.
It's interesting that 90's seem to have less of a problem. Any theories on that?

[WARP TEN]

My 91' has delamination around the edges, and spends most of it's time in the garage.
It's interesting that 90's seem to have less of a problem. Any theories on that?

No but Marc Haibeck says his experience is that the 95s seem to be the most prone to it. Maybe getting just a little sloppy towards the end of production? Mine has just a little around the edges, which he says is one of the best he's seen. Of course #448 is completely delaminated despite being in the NCM all its life. Other 95s I've seen in person or I pictures have had substantial delamination. --Bob

[Fully Vetted]

All delam?

My 90 had about 1.5 to 2.0" of delam around the periphery. In 2014 I replaced it with a standard C4 (Safelite) windshield.

What I immediately noticed was the clarity of the new glass; not just the absence of the typical delamination at the periphery, but clarity was remarkable by comparison - especially when facing the sun.

I suppose there might have been a couple decades of micro scratches (like patina) on the glass, but it wasn't due to not being clean. (I'm fanatical about clean glass; the photographer in me, I guess...).

Just my .02, but unless you are harboring an NCRS candidate, I would recommend to anyone to consider changing out the ZR-1 glass if it is the least bit annoying. I love the (clear) look, and the tinting is perfect (for me). I've not missed that original glass for a friggin' microsecond. LOVE the new 'winder'!

FWIW, YMMV! :dancing

Paul,

How much effect, if any, did the new standard window have on the cooling ability of the AC? I'm way beyond original on my car but being in Texas I have to consider the high temp/high humidity conditions and I'd hate to have to start planning road trips around whether my AC can keep up with said conditions.

[Fully Vetted]

TTT. Paul, not sure if you saw my question since the notification doesn't seem to be working right.

[Paul Workman]

TTT. Paul, not sure if you saw my question since the notification doesn't seem to be working right.

Sorry, Dave. Didn't see your post.

Can't say on the AC. I drive with the windows down and never used the AC.

[Fully Vetted]

Yeah, I can do that until the wife gives me The Look.

[lfalzarano]

I've been having thoughts of buying a regular $300 windshield so I can run a mirror mounted radar detector. Also, it's illegal in CA to use suction cup mounts or put on decals etc on the glass except for the corners.



Install a camera mount bar behind the seats. Detection both front and rear is better, if you go with a plain windshield instead of the original ZR-1 installed.


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[Vetman]

My 1990. Not really visiable.

[kr1276]

My 1990 is not showing any signs of delamination #0331 369 miles

[dredgeguy]

My 92 had delamination around the edges, not too bad. Replaced it after a stone put a crack in it with one of the $2500 ZR-1 aftermarket replacements with the cutout. Insurance paid for it after a 2 month battle of explaining that they have to replace factory spec if available and yes it is aftermarket, not OEM. If OEM they wanted me to pay the difference but I was able to prove that this is what they had to provide.

[Vette73]

Isn't it true that an original ZR-1 windshield can cost upwards of $ 3,000 dollars? My 91 came with a replacement windshield...

[dredgeguy]

I do not believe any original ZR-1 windshields are available but there is aftermarket clone with the correct cutout available at a cost of around $2500. A regular C4 windshield which will also fit but without the cutout is less than $500

[Paul Workman]

Upon replacing my WS, I found many places that were willing to make the attempt on my C4. But, don't be surprised when they find out it is a C4 Corvette; many WS installation sources will not do a C4 (I found).

Safelite installed my (standard C4) WS, but I had to goto a specific (brick and mortar) location where a person experienced with C4s was located and would do the job.

[tgonyaw]

I have a 1991 with delamination. About an inch coming from the edges. Passed Virgina Safety Inspection ok last fall.
Will leave as is if it stays contained.

[rossgn49u]

94 has substantial delam. Sold a 91 last year with the same. New owner replaced with a standard C4 windshield.

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[lfalzarano]

Thanks for sharing. What were the pieces you couldn’t locate for the replacement?


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[Z51JEFF]

Thanks for sharing. What were the pieces you couldn’t locate for the replacement?


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Most likely these were to 3 pieces of exposed trim going around the WS. At one point I bought all 3 piece,almost $900, for the 3 pieces and 2 of the 3 were of such poor quality I got a refund on them but still have one side piece somewhere. It’s very difficult to get this aluminum trim off the car without destroying it but it is possible.

[HAWAIIZR-1]

Thanks for sharing. What were the pieces you couldn’t locate for the replacement?


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You’re welcome. Yes, just as Jeff said it was those three pieces of metal trim around the windshield. I was not able to find new and mine were perfect so I just told the installers to carefully replace. They did a great job in saving it and reusing.
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[lfalzarano]

Wow! Awesome not seeing that delamination!


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[32ValveGuy]

Inside looking out it’s fine. I really don’t give a crap what others think. I just enjoy the ride.

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Test

[Paul Workman]

Test

It's working. So, U must be breathin!!

[lfalzarano]

#1476 delamination


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[richarde]

1821 No delamination

2391 Bad delamination


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[Matt B]

Mine has literally no visible delam. Only when the windshield is exposed to LED light that comes in sideways you can recognize a white hue around the edges. It a 91 NY car and windshield seems to be original.

[zyal8r]

Terrible delamination on '95 #004! Rivals or beats the last ZR-1 in the museum, 5600 miles. Stored inside heated/cooled garage its entire life. In direct sunlight or at night with glares/streetlights/headlights... tough to see.

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Mike

[HAWAIIZR-1]

My 90 and 95 both were pretty bad, but Mike?s above is the worst I have ever seen. It is a crime that GM did not fix this issue and warranty all the cars that have this crappy issue. Chicken **** bastards with a car that cost this much new. In some cases the cars are not safe to drive and that was my argument to get insurance to cover replacement.


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[haber rj]

Does your windshield have any delamination or is it in great shape?

My 91 has delamination

[Matt B]

Can't this community with all its network and contacts take care for a run of replacement shields? Maybe even with (near) correct markings? Considering that about 1/4 of more than 300 who ran the poll have issues there is a potential to sell 100 of them. Easily. Plus all those insurance cases. Plus those (like myself) who'd put one on the shelf as spare.
I know from other collector car projects that individual glass solutions are being produced from from 7-10 sets, depending on the manufacturer. So, why wait for GM?
Though I need to say that I have no personal experience in ordering bespoke windshields...

[mcich7781]

91 #135 bad delamination, replaced w/regular C4 Safelite windshield <$400 installed.

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[Jcsws6]

My 90 has delam around the edges but not terrible. One of my 91s is near perfect with zero delam. My other 91 was so bad I couldn't see out, replaced it with a standard glass with zero regrets.

[HAWAIIZR-1]

Can't this community with all its network and contacts take care for a run of replacement shields? Maybe even with (near) correct markings? Considering that about 1/4 of more than 300 who ran the poll have issues there is a potential to sell 100 of them. Easily. Plus all those insurance cases. Plus those (like myself) who'd put one on the shelf as spare.

I know from other collector car projects that individual glass solutions are being produced from from 7-10 sets, depending on the manufacturer. So, why wait for GM?

Though I need to say that I have no personal experience in ordering bespoke windshields...



Matt,

I am halfway talking through my a*s, but I will say it anyway. From a guy who I heard did this once before it is a very costly venture and investment with the logistics involved, as well as all the other red tape and bureaucracy to import from overseas. I do not think that one could find a US manufacturer to make these. The ones that zr-1windshield.com once sold were from Saint-Gobain who made the GM replacements. I like them better than the LOF I have seen despite those are the originals. I heard that someone it doing another run so hopefully you will hear something soon.

At $2000+ each, not a lot of members are willing to fork it up to replace their delaminated windshields. To be honest, I do not know it I would have if my insurance company did not cover the replacement. I guess I was really lucky as many seem to say not possible with their insurance company.





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[dredgeguy]

Matt and Craig,
I was able to get State Farm to fork over $2000+ for a replacement windshield from ZR-1windshield.com but it took many emails, photos, etc to get it approved. First they said they would not pay for OEM and if that is what I wanted I had to pay the difference betweem OEM and replacement costs. Told them it is not OEM but it is the only one that meets OEM spec and in the end they paid. We are having a Wazoo holiday lunch this Sunday and we will get the latest update on the new venture that I understand is in the works. At least that was the word during Carlisle this past August. The hope is to have a replacement windshield with both large and small cutouts for less than $1000. Will keep all posted.

[HAWAIIZR-1]

Matt and Craig,
I was able to get State Farm to fork over $2000+ for a replacement windshield from ZR-1windshield.com but it took many emails, photos, etc to get it approved. First they said they would not pay for OEM and if that is what I wanted I had to pay the difference betweem OEM and replacement costs. Told them it is not OEM but it is the only one that meets OEM spec and in the end they paid. We are having a Wazoo holiday lunch this Sunday and we will get the latest update on the new venture that I understand is in the works. At least that was the word during Carlisle this past August. The hope is to have a replacement windshield with both large and small cutouts for less than $1000. Will keep all posted.



That is great news Charlie about your insurance and the future of replacement windshields for the community. I was also fortunate to find the OEM weatherstrip ($650 from a shop in Maryland) and trim so in total $3800 and I can understand why insurance companies do not want to cover it. That is awesome if they can get it down to a $1000 or less.


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[zyal8r]

Matt and Craig,
I was able to get State Farm to fork over $2000+ for a replacement windshield from ZR-1windshield.com but it took many emails, photos, etc to get it approved. First they said they would not pay for OEM and if that is what I wanted I had to pay the difference betweem OEM and replacement costs. Told them it is not OEM but it is the only one that meets OEM spec and in the end they paid. We are having a Wazoo holiday lunch this Sunday and we will get the latest update on the new venture that I understand is in the works. At least that was the word during Carlisle this past August. The hope is to have a replacement windshield with both large and small cutouts for less than $1000. Will keep all posted.

Please keep us posted, Sir! That would be awesome - I would definitely go for a $1,000 OEM-ish replacement versus my other idea - regular windshield with tint to recreate the OEM look. Still on the fence with that one, but if the reproduction windshields don't pan out in the next six months to a year, I'll just do the regular route with tint. Mine's too bad to drive in bright sun, and not worth the risk. I love the originality but mine is a hazard in the wrong situation.

Mike

[Matt B]

That sounds good! I didn't consider that the windshields are European made. Good for me, though... But I know pretty well the magnitude of how much shipping, customs and tax add to a list price.
1000 or even less is fair - for my Audi A6' solar ray windshield (OEM part) I paid 750 Euro ($850 US) over here just for the piece of glass.

But the idea of mimicking the solar ray windshield by adding a layer of tinting is very smart, too.

[cadillac531]

Mine is a 91, #1392 and it has a lot of delam.

[zyal8r]

A few responses up, it was mentioned that the WAZOO group in the Northeast may have some more info after last weekend's get together about the potential for some reproduction windshields in the not-too-distant future? Any news about that?

I had also heard that Safelite may be offering some, but doesn't look like it yet. However, when you select a windshield for a '95 Corvette, it does ask if it is a ZR-1... but unfortunately the cost is the same as a regular windshield, so no way that's a reproduction windshield.

Just wondering!

Thanks,
Mike

[dredgeguy]

Unfortunately no new news on the windshield availability as those involved were not able to make our gatherings. Will keep after this and let all know once we have an update. Keep the faith and Merry Christmas!

[richarde]

As an interesting aside, the last numbers of my ZR's VIN number appear through the delamination on the top of the driver's side, number 2391. It's a 1990 car.


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[richarde]

As an interesting aside, the last numbers of my ZR's VIN number appear through the delamination on the top of the driver's side, number 2391. It's a 1990 car.


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[kz098123]

1990 #0775 - no delamination


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[mlipmd]

None for me, '90 #545

[zyal8r]

Hey all, any updates on the reproduction windshields that were mentioned in the registry newsletter distributed with the t-shirts? '95 #004 really needs one!

[viper107]

I have a 94 with a beautiful windshield,95 horrible

[tiegsd]

1990 # 1155, has moderate de-lamination.

[zyal8r]

Any update on these reproduction windshields? I've gotten to spend more time with my Z as of late and I just love driving it - almost a hundred miles over the last month. Will have new tires on refinished OEM wheels shortly as well (to keep originals intact). I really want to hold out for a true reproduction windshield, but... having a tough time with this... if I tilt my head down though, I can see well through the radar detector cutout :D

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[Subfixer]

My 92 windshield looks exactly like that.....

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[HAWAIIZR-1]

With all the people on here in need of one, why is no one buying the new Kurt White windshield posted for $1500. Hell of a deal. I wouldn?t even care if small or big cutout if i needed one.


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[zyal8r]

It's a good question, Craig, and the only thing I can come up with is personally, I like this ZR-1 quirk enough that I would rather it look the part for the year on mine. I know most people wouldn't care or know the difference, but if I'm going to spend $1500 on one that isn't 'quite' correct, vs. the supposedly $1000 for one that is correct, I'd rather do the $1000 reproduction. But with no status on these (which is really disappointing six months after the announcement), the $550 normal windshield (including tint) that can be made to look almost perfect with the right cutout added in is probably my preferred choice and certainly a guarantee I would never have the same problem. The seller of the Kurt White believes it is for a '90 - no question, if it had the small cutout, I'd grab it.

[HAWAIIZR-1]

It's a good question, Craig, and the only thing I can come up with is personally, I like this ZR-1 quirk enough that I would rather it look the part for the year on mine. I know most people wouldn't care or know the difference, but if I'm going to spend $1500 on one that isn't 'quite' correct, vs. the supposedly $1000 for one that is correct, I'd rather do the $1000 reproduction. But with no status on these (which is really disappointing six months after the announcement), the $550 normal windshield (including tint) that can be made to look almost perfect with the right cutout added in is probably my preferred choice and certainly a guarantee I would never have the same problem. The seller of the Kurt White believes it is for a '90 - no question, if it had the small cutout, I'd grab it.



Got it and I can understand that. If you are going to spend that money it might as well be year correct. I just do not know if the repro will materialize for those that need it. If I could not get my repro when I did I would have to settle for standard C4 with tint. If I was in a corner I guess I rather have the incorrect cutout than a C4 windshield. It sucks that there are only a few things to separate our cars visually and that windshield is one of them. It would seem you have first dibs on it if so or at least how I see it once the seller gets back with the info. Best wishes.


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[dredgeguy]

I believe we will have an update on the correct replacement windshields during Carlisle. My personal feeling is that it will happen, just with supply chain issues taking longer than expected but it will happen. They are too far along and too much time and money invested for the supplier to back out now.

[AirbusDriver]

I purchased an original 1990 ZR-1 windshield with zero delam for $2,000 and was happy to get it. It is factory dated such that it works well for two of my cars.
I sold a White repop 1990 windshield to a fellow for, I believe, $1,800 and he was glad to get it.
If the new ones materialize, and they are an exact match, I hope to buy three of them just to have in standby.
Regards,
Mark

[zyal8r]

Any news from Carlisle on the forthcoming reproductions, by chance?

Thanks!
Mike

[A1990]

Windshield project update as of 10/17/2022 from Pilkington Glass or actually Pilkington Classics. They were the producers of the original windshields for our ZR-1's. We have been working with them for several years now to reproduce a factory replacement windshield for our cars that can be ordered through your local auto glass company. We had several prototypes made and they are actually installed and in use yet today.



We were on track for production until early 2020 when COVID shut down Pilkington. Once they restarted production of any windshields ours was in the queue for late 2021. The windshields run did not pass their quality control and were scraped.



They have been constrained on the film for the ZR-1 windshield and as of this past Monday, they are awaiting to hear when they will receive their order.



I have been kept in the loop on the status, but it is moving very slowly and Pilkington Classics is as frustrated as we are. As I find out more in the coming weeks I will keep you updated here.



Keep the faith...

[dredgeguy]

Thanks for the update Dennis, great to know this project is still alive.

[zyal8r]

Thank you for the update, Dennis! I'm keeping my fingers crossed for sure, because this has got to go! <5800 miles, always inside... another angle.

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Mike

[haber rj]

Thank you for the update on this I also have my fingers crossed 🇨🇦

[A1990]

The latest information on the windshields is that the film for the glass is due at the plant in February and they are currently planning a March production run.


I will keep you posted as I learn more.


Hang in there....

[zyal8r]

Dennis - THANK YOU for the update! How do I get in line for one? If windshields were sold by severity of delamination, see three posts up :-({|=

Mike

[Zr1Steve]

My 90 ZR1 #2216 windshield finally delaminated to a yellowish color. The windshield was fine when I stored it over 25 yrs ago with 40K miles. It has been garaged and covered the whole time. About 5 years ago I noticed the delamination. Any info on where to purchase a new windshield or a group buy, I'm in !!

[dredgeguy]

They should be available through Safelite after March. The film will be available next month and production starts in March.

[AirbusDriver]

Apologies if this question has been asked. Are the markings as original and, can a date marking be chosen to align with vehicle build? exa...a date code of, say, January 1990.

[dredgeguy]

I believe that is one of the features they were working on, same markings and when you made your order you could get the correct date code

[AirbusDriver]

Charlie
Thnx for that info. Man!...it's great news for us NCRS dweebs👍
Regards,
Mark

[dredgeguy]

I know the Board has been working on this for a long time, Covid and supply chain issues caused lots of delays and problems but it now appears that they have a light at the end of the tunnel. I know they kept the NCRS group in mind when working with the supplier. It will be awesome!

[zyal8r]

Sure sounds fantastic, thank you for keeping us updated, guys! Can't wait!

Mike

[PontiacPOWA]

They should be available through Safelite after March. The film will be available next month and production starts in March.

Since we're about half way through march now, are there any updates? I'm stoked at the possibility of getting a factory appearing windshield back in my '90

[zyal8r]

Since we're about half way through march now, are there any updates? I'm stoked at the possibility of getting a factory appearing windshield back in my '90

Hopefully soon! For grins, I just tried to quote on Safelite and the ZR-1 vs. regular windshields are still the same price, although they definitely do still know to ask ZR-1 vs. not. I'd expect the ZR-1 will be more. Definitely willing... just waiting.

[G8nightman]

:fahne:Waiting as well

[Corvette95]

Is there a pre-order option to get the correct size cutout and date code?

[dredgeguy]

Mark Horner posed the message below:


I've opened up a thread in the "Member's Only" area regarding the status of the windshields.

Regards,
Mark
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[HAWAIIZR-1]

Mark Horner posed the message below:


I've opened up a thread in the "Member's Only" area regarding the status of the windshields.

Regards,
Mark
__________________
Mark Horner
President, ZR-1 Net Registry
91 ZR-1 #2016
95 ZR-1 #21 DRM-600, LPE 385

Great idea to make membership have its privileges. 🤙🏼

[bob@tradeshowconsulting.c]

Is Safelite now offering these replacements ?

[smilestyke]

?


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[rufcar]

I spoke to the powers that be at Safelight 3 weeks ago and they are still in the testing stage. It is listed in their catalogs but NA just yet. Though they do have the tinted windshield used in non Z cars.

[bob@tradeshowconsulting.c]

thank you so much for the update .. we appreciate it. !

[mtdo2007]

Any updates on these replacements?

[A1990]

Just a quick update on the windshields. After Corvettes of Carlisle last fall, there were several modifications that were made to the windshields that we were sent.


The VIN plate was about a half inch too high, the boarder was about a half inch too narrow and there was a line at the bottom where the boarder and the tint meet. I was hoping that these changes would not stop production but they are apparently it has.



I have not received word as of last week about when we might see them.


I will continue to pursue and let you know when I find anything out.