Neat Cluster Alternative

[-=Jeff=-]

Saw this on Facebook.. It is a Kit and sells for $400.00 you can then layout gauges how you want

https://scontent.ford1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21032404_693686794149414_8989497083805941959_n.jpg ?oh=c0b7e13290616679f26da513ac4e9b1a&oe=5A53960D

here is a link to the kit itself

https://www.intellitronix.com/product-page/create-a-dash-universal-gauge-kit

you can even do a GPS Speedo
https://www.intellitronix.com/product-page/gps-speedometer-sending-unit

[Ccmano]

Cool..
H
:cheers:

[-=Jeff=-]

the best things is you 'build' or arrange it how you want it.. Tach goes to 9K so it will be fine for most of us

[jss06c6]

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but could this solve the MS3pro control of the ZR-1 gauges issue? Just spent time with the Megasquirt guys at PRI. They reaffirmed that they would dust off the ZR-1 project if anyone could ever provide a data flow map to the gauges and dash.

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[-=Jeff=-]

I offered some info months ago but hey did not seem interested then. Why the renewed interest? Did you get a price out of them?


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[jss06c6]

Didn't get a price. The guy I was talking to was the project lead on the ZR-1 ECM. He was the one that told me they would dust off the project if they could a decent data flow diagram.

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[-=Jeff=-]

Data flow diagram of what specifically?


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[jss06c6]

My understanding is that they'll​ cannot establish full communications with the dash gauges. The guy I was talking to, Matt Cramer, introduced me to the project lead on the ZR-1 ECM. Sorry I didn't get his card. He was the one that told me they had exhausted their leads trying to get the data flow (map) for the ZR-1 instrument cluster and idled the project. You are far more knowledgeable than me regarding their apparent roadblock. I'll get back in touch with Matt to see if I can get the contact info for the ZR-1 project lead. The "box" they had on display is #JZ9298. Believe it was for a Toyota Supra, but he indicated the ZR-1 unit was identical, but had the proper cable sockets to match our plugs.

Sorry I can't be more help, but I wanted to press them while I was at PRI.

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[jss06c6]

https://www.ampefi.com/?s=Jz9298


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[-=Jeff=-]

Yeah I have emails back and forth with Matt. I don't think are going to get that info, I am guessing all of that is buried in GM

[1LEZ]

Has anyone asked Graham Behan?

[RussMcB]

The DIY Tune (Megasquirt) guys know Graham. I think they worked together on the LT-5 Phase 3 engine.

[jss06c6]

At least I got a response from Matt. If I can get them engaged, I'll need some expertise from you guys.. (Jeff ?)

Hello Steve,
I have passed this on to the team who worked on the ZR-1 ECM and they will get back to you soon. I also found a couple other possible leads on the serial protocol at PRI that we're following up on.
Matt Cramer

AMP EFI support

[-=Jeff=-]

What they want is the message stream that is sent to the CCM I would imagine..

Not sure if I have any of that, Although I do have some CCM stream stuff

[XfireZ51]

This group already has all of that figured out and they use GM OEM hardware.
Looks pretty seamless. Trying to talk to them about doing LT5 adaptation next.

https://youtu.be/1j-HdgaGFQ4

https://youtu.be/boNdW8qX2hk

[-=Jeff=-]

I have.. but it was a while ago

[XfireZ51]

I have.. but it was a while ago

I think we need to get more people from here to contact them. I have been making the case that the LT5 represents as good a market for them as the base C4s. With our ICMs we don’t have alternatives.

[-=Jeff=-]

I think we need to get more people from here to contact them. I have been making the case that the LT5 represents as good a market for them as the base C4s. With our ICMs we don’t have alternatives.

Yes.. Nice guy to chat with VIA email.. with enough interest he would explore the possibility

[jss06c6]

This group already has all of that figured out and they use GM OEM hardware.
Looks pretty seamless. Trying to talk to them about doing LT5 adaptation next.

https://youtu.be/1j-HdgaGFQ4

https://youtu.be/boNdW8qX2hk

Well dang it Dominic! Impressive and very promising. Would be great to get DIY guys together with these guys since they seem to the ECM/CCM communications figured out.. I'll jump in with support. Would love to have HP Tuners again with my LT-5. Comfortable with TunerPro RT and Craig's box for sure, but this would be a nice step up..:salute:

[jss06c6]

http://www.torqhead.com/buy-24xlink-products.html#!/1994-1996-C4-Corvette/c/23575137/offset=0&sort=normal

[XfireZ51]

Well dang it Dominic! Impressive and very promising. Would be great to get DIY guys together with these guys since they seem to the ECM/CCM communications figured out.. I'll jump in with support. Would love to have HP Tuners again with my LT-5. Comfortable with TunerPro RT and Craig's box for sure, but this would be a nice step up..:salute:

He doesn’t need the DIY people. His system would run our motors using an LSx PCM. And it would support waste spark or CnP in addition to having full comms w the CCM.

[jss06c6]

16 injectors and secondaries as well?

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[XfireZ51]

16 injectors and secondaries as well?

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Why would that be an issue? U need 8 injector drivers plus a ground to energize
the secondary relays. The 411 has plenty of room for programming to run our motors. And basically, the LT5 ECM is a glorified L98 calibration.

[jss06c6]

Defer to your experience. I guess in my ignorance I thought the LT-5 required control of 16 injectors versus 8 in the LT-1 & LT-4.

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[XfireZ51]

Defer to your experience. I guess in my ignorance I thought the LT-5 required control of 16 injectors versus 8 in the LT-1 & LT-4.

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Nope. Only 8 injector drivers. The secondaries are driven by the secondary relays and use the primary injector signal to fire.

[-=Jeff=-]

yes, but the secondaries work in parallel with the primary per cylinder.. The Duty cycle is cut in 1/2 when all 16 injectors are energized I believe.

It would be cool to have OBD2 features on an OBD1 car..