View Full Version : Could we avoid politics and religion, please?
conesare2seconds
08-12-2017, 08:01 PM
Friends: there are many places on the web whose reason for being is robust and healthy political debate and discussion. I think the ZR1netregistry best serves its members as a place where we can enjoy our shared love of the ZR-1 and celebrate a remarkable car in a spirit of comity and community.
While there are many thoughtful and reasoned posts, others assign profoundly uncharitable motives to others and proceed from hostility to those who hold contrary positions to their own.
With respect to this fine community, none of us is going to change the other's mind when it comes to our political or religious beliefs and I can't see how debating these topics enhances the experience of coming here to enjoy our cars. I'd encourage us to direct our energies on the forums in ways that contribute to our affection for and knowledge of our Corvettes. :handshak:
rush91
08-12-2017, 08:26 PM
Friends: there are many places on the web whose reason for being is robust and healthy political debate and discussion. I think the ZR1netregistry best serves its members as a place where we can enjoy our shared love of the ZR-1 and celebrate a remarkable car in a spirit of comity and community.
While there are many thoughtful and reasoned posts, others assign profoundly uncharitable motives to others and proceed from hostility to those who hold contrary positions to their own.
With respect to this fine community, none of us is going to change the other's mind when it comes to our political or religious beliefs and I can't see how debating these topics enhances the experience of coming here to enjoy our cars. I'd encourage us to direct our energies on the forums in ways that contribute to our affection for and knowledge of our Corvettes. :handshak:
Echoed and we'll said....
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rush91
08-12-2017, 08:26 PM
Echoed and well said....
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Echoed and we'll said....
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rush91
08-12-2017, 08:27 PM
Echoed and well said....
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efnfast
08-12-2017, 09:46 PM
It's been said before, don't read the posts you don't like.
XFIRE51 and I have very different political views, but I like to hope we are still friends.
We've hung together, conversed together, and dined together.
But boy do we think differently about politics. - Steve
USAF Retired
08-13-2017, 02:28 AM
It's been said before, don't read the posts you don't like. XFIRE51 and I have very different political views, but I like to hope we are still friends. We've hung together, conversed together, and dined together. But boy do we think differently about politics. - Steve
Agreed. If Colin CANCER Kaepernick can voice his opinion by disgracing this great country then why can't I voice my opinion that I disagree and condemn his hateful actions? I'm a Veteran as is my father and now son who is stationed in Latin America. I gave of my life to serve and for some of you Liberals here who feel the need to defend American Terrorists then well shame on you!
Screw all the professional athletes who are paid millions to protest this great country. I say to hell with them!
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Kevin
08-13-2017, 03:30 AM
Apperently we can't.
This has been brought up before and It'll come Up again. I have my own feelings on this but my opinion doesn't really matter.
USAF Retired
08-13-2017, 04:12 AM
Apparently we can't. This has been brought up before and It'll come Up again. I have my own feelings on this but my opinion doesn't really matter.
I'm so disappointed. You closed my Colin CANCER Kaepernick topic in essence censoring myself and others. Are you happy now Kevin? I had no idea there was so many American haters in this group. Disappointed is not even the word I'd like to use. God bless America.
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efnfast
08-13-2017, 08:27 AM
The football thing seems easy to me. Don't go, don't buy a ticket, don't support them.
Think his unamerican nonsence will stop pretty quick when the stadiums are empty?
Riviera
08-13-2017, 08:30 AM
Absolutely, Steve. You hit the nail right on the head. The other thing is if we get all worked up about these things it only encourages more in the same vein don't ya think.
efnfast
08-13-2017, 09:10 AM
Absolutely, Steve. You hit the nail right on the head. The other thing is if we get all worked up about these things it only encourages more in the same vein don't ya think.
I do think. People love attention, look how much he is getting.
Without this nonsense, who would know who he is? Even I do, and I could give a rats behind about football.
lfalzarano
08-13-2017, 10:21 AM
This is a Corvette forum. I don't agree with Colin Kaepernik or other scumbags that don't appreciate the USA. [emoji631] I also disagree that this is not the Forum to voice those opinions. [emoji108]
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Blue Flame Restorations
08-13-2017, 01:20 PM
I'm so disappointed. You closed my Colin CANCER Kaepernick topic in essence censoring myself and others. Are you happy now Kevin? I had no idea there was so many American haters in this group. Disappointed is not even the word I'd like to use. God bless America.
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There are many rules governing how one should act on this forum. I would strongly suggest that you read them.
I welcome you to the C4 ZR-1 community as well this forum. There is no room for personal attacks or the like. This forum if place for peace and brotherhood pertaining to the ZR-1. Harsh debate and personal attacks do nothing to promote this.
Forum Rules #5, #7 and #12 are good reading material.
Thank you for your service. Much respected and appreciated.
Brett Henderson
ZR-1 Net Registry Forum Administrator
USAF Retired
08-14-2017, 07:47 AM
Thank you for your service. Much respected and appreciated.
Thanks Henderson.
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Bob Eyres
08-14-2017, 10:20 AM
I think I just changed my mind on this issue of whether to post political views anywhere on this forum.
Sure, it's labeled "Off Topic" and you should be able to discuss anything under the sun, but maybe there's value in ignoring all the hot button issues that might separate us, and just talk about what brings us together.
Like the real kick we get from driving these unique cars. That's why my sig says, "it's about the car, not the people".
That's the flip side of the sig. by the late Doug Johnson, who said "It's not about the car, it's about the people". Which to me was about the brotherhood of the ZR-1 owners. But mine is different because I think we need something to agree on in these days when so many forces are trying to pull this country apart.
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DRM500RUBYZR-1
08-14-2017, 12:11 PM
I have many friends, and each has their own unique thoughts on most all hot, luke-warm and cold button issues, as do I.
I do not restrict my friends to only those that think like me, which I am sure many might be thankful for.
I do not dislike or heaven forbid, hate those that think differently from me.
My views have evolved from listening to what friends think, and seeing if it alters my view. Oftentimes it has.
Living in an echo chamber would be very boring.
The intent of "Off-Topic" is to allow and foster such discussions.
They should not be restricted unless they turn into attacks of the members.
We are grown-ups here, right?
We are not forced to read or join in, but it is good to converse with each other even when we have differing views. I try to avoid evil people, not different ones.
I learned that in grade school and it has rarely failed me.
Keep it civil, and listen with an open-mind.
Life is learning.
:cheers:
Marty
Riviera
08-14-2017, 12:59 PM
Unfortunately, it appears that there are some members of this forum who feel that any disagreement with their beliefs entitles them to personally attack the person who disagreed.
Perhaps, as some other forums have done, we should seriously consider doing away with the Off Topic area altogether. While that may appear to be somewhat harsh, there have been several recent incidents some starting out very innocently that have morphed into rhetoric and mud-slinging.
Just my two cents.
George45
08-14-2017, 01:16 PM
I come here to talk about my cars and your cars. The rest i can get somewhere else. Lets just talk about what brings us here. If i want to know anything else about you as a person, i will look you up on another forum. Lets not poison our own well.
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08-14-2017, 01:49 PM
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http://www.zr1.net/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif Off Topic Section
While this forum is and always has been dedicated to ZR-1's, the OT section is here for everyone to discuss anything they like such as entertainment, current events, politics, sports, etc. Most thriving forums have an active OT section, so I'd encourage our members to use it more often. You might find that others here have similar interests that you can discuss besides a love of Corvettes.
So when you read a post in the OT, post a reply now and then, or start your own topic.
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Seems to be the very reason OT was created in the first place.
Like a television, if the program does not appeal to one, you only need to change the channel, not delete it.
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Marty
I do think. People love attention, look how much he is getting.
Without this nonsense, who would know who he is? Even I do, and I could give a rats behind about football.
Without all this publicity he'd just another colon.
Riviera
08-14-2017, 02:34 PM
I agree with Marty's statement with the exception of politics and then also religion. I think those two items should be banned as it is very obvious there are some forum members who can't just have a spirited discussion. They get vicious mean and personal.
efnfast
08-14-2017, 03:35 PM
Without all this publicity he'd just another colon.
LOL. Now that right there is funny.
efnfast
08-14-2017, 03:36 PM
Like Marty said, I don't mind a good discussion, I might even learn something, or broaden my horizons.
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