I need another option than Photo bucket

[GOLDCYLON]

I used my free cox email photo store for years when they disabled the service for all users. So I went to Photobucket and 10 years ago it was great. Over the last three years it has been total crap with frames view difficultly loading etc. NOW Photobucket wants me to pay $399 per year to continue to be able to post pictures on "3rd party sites" that's any forum.


If the service was decent I might consider paying for a service however it is not and it is far from decent.


So I am migrating to something else. I need some recommendations folk even a reasonably priced store. too bad I cant host from my iCloud service I already pay for.

[G8nightman]

http://imgur.com/

[GOLDCYLON]

http://imgur.com/





Thanks any other options? That looks pretty public. GC

[G8nightman]

when you post a pic you can set it to private or public.

[GOLDCYLON]

when you post a pic you can set it to private or public.

ok thanks I will give it a try !

[GOLDCYLON]

https://imgur.com/a/pI8CZ

PM sent

[Paul Workman]

Yeah, I feel your pain. Phucum. Last couple years it has been sooo compromised with pop-ups and crap it isn't worth messing with anymore.

Now, the question is...recovering all the pix I have stored there over the years.:mad:

[conesare2seconds]

Unfortunately, once hosted, PB says your pictures are theirs. Nothing to keep you from copying them but it's time consuming. I'm looking into Amazon Prime hosting, will have to see what the user agreement says about third party hosting first.

[BigJohn]

I just use my documents in my computer to store photographs!

[Ccmano]

Try tinypic.com, has its issues as well but nothing like PB.
H

[GOLDCYLON]

Can somebody fix my link in post #6 to get it display? I need to know the workaround. help :saluting:

[Roadster]

Don't ask......lol6318

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[GOLDCYLON]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170701/3187a23ba09572a6b30ec807354f9280.jpg


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Ok I forgot about the tapatalk option lol :cheers:

[Chedberg]

I used my free cox email photo store for years when they disabled the service for all users. So I went to Photobucket and 10 years ago it was great. Over the last three years it has been total crap with frames view difficultly loading etc. NOW Photobucket wants me to pay $399 per year to continue to be able to post pictures on "3rd party sites" that's any forum.


If the service was decent I might consider paying for a service however it is not and it is far from decent.


So I am migrating to something else. I need some recommendations folk even a reasonably priced store. too bad I cant host from my iCloud service I already pay for.
Google drive. Dropbox. Imgur.

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[WARP TEN]

I just use my documents in my computer to store photographs!



Me too! I have never found a photo site that I liked--too many rules, pop[ups, etc. I regularly back up my photos and everything else important to a laptop that stays disconnected most of the time and to a separate hard drive just in case. But I feel your pain Daryl -- My long used AOL just cancelled my desktop service (or I can pay to get it back) so I just moved my email to gmail. In that case, Google had a real simple procedure that transferred all of my 1,500 AOL contacts over to it. Maybe a new photo service would also have such a utility. --Bob

[tf95ZR1]

Yes, just happened to me.
But Roadster was able to post P B pic?

http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd335/tf95ZR-1/FlagA7.17_zpsxtrvyiaf.jpg

"Update" means pay $$.
P B says I have used 5% of my free space.

[GOLDCYLON]

Yes, just happened to me.
But Roadster was able to post P B pic?

http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd335/tf95ZR-1/FlagA7.17_zpsxtrvyiaf.jpg

"Update" means pay $$.
P B says I have used 5% of my free space.


He used the tapatalk zr-1 registry app

[GOLDCYLON]

My thanks to Tom for reminding me of the registry tapatalk option and to George for calling me today to walk me through Imgur. Thanks fellers Photobucket can pound sand. GC

[Roadster]

Me too! I have never found a photo site that I liked--too many rules, pop[ups, etc. I regularly back up my photos and everything else important to a laptop that stays disconnected most of the time and to a separate hard drive just in case. But I feel your pain Daryl -- My long used AOL just cancelled my desktop service (or I can pay to get it back) so I just moved my email to gmail. In that case, Google had a real simple procedure that transferred all of my 1,500 AOL contacts over to it. Maybe a new photo service would also have such a utility. --Bob

Bob, on the AOL account, that is what they want you to believe. I also thought that I would have to pay to get my account back, not so...
You can still sign in on your account and have all of the features you have had before, and your email, and not pay. You just have to find and get used to the new format. That is something they don't tell you. I thought I lost all of my Favorites, but I found them, took awhile, but they are still there....
Didn't mean to hijack the thread......



My thanks to Tom for reminding me of the registry tapatalk option and to George for calling me today to walk me through Imgur. Thanks fellers Photobucket can pound sand. GC

Daryl, now if only I can remind myself....lol Glad you will be able to post pics without any complications.....:thumbsup:

[bdw18_123]

There is also www.flickr.com, which seems to work pretty good. I used that site to post the pictures in this thread:

http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=27460

[QB93Z]

I am trying to see if I can make one of my photos load as an attachment:

[QB93Z]

That worked for a 73KB file, I can't put the image in with the text as I do in my trip logs.


Jim


Edit: I notice that the resolution is poor when I view the picture at that compression.

[QB93Z]

Trying from Amazon Prime photo storage:


https://www.amazon.com/photos/all/gallery/ZONZ69kSQW2ffBi9du7kHA?sf=1&messageAcntMismatch=true


here is more text.


https://content-na.drive.amazonaws.com/cdproxy/templink/8UbqJ9yBoceH0FwVH5BLyhYMXL8r7HSQbOcUP2mJEF4pX92IB? viewBox=1309%2C873
This picture^ was "copied" from the Amazon Prime Photo browser and then pasted into the Forum Reply box.

Jim

[QB93Z]

Here is the HTML code for the above post:


<divid="post_message_264270">







Trying from Amazon Prime photo storage:<br/>


<br/>


<br/>


<ahref="https://www.amazon.com/photos/all/gallery/ZONZ69kSQW2ffBi9du7kHA?sf=1&amp;messageAcntMismatch=tr ue"target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/photos/all/ga...tMismatch=true</a><br/>


<br/>


<br/>


here is more text.<br/>


<br/>


<br/>


<imgsrc="https://content-na.drive.amazonaws.com/cdproxy/templink/8UbqJ9yBoceH0FwVH5BLyhYMXL8r7HSQbOcUP2mJEF4pX92IB? viewBox=1309%2C873"border="0"alt=""/><br/>


This picture^ was &quot;copied&quot; from the Amazon Prime Photo browser and then pasted into the Forum Reply box.<br/>


<br/>




Jim


</div>


<!-- / message -->


************************************************** **********


I am guessing that this would count as third party hosting. I haven't looked at the fine print at Amazon yet.


Edit: I have reviewed the Amazon Prime Photos description and I have not found any ban on third party hosting.

Jim

[QB93Z]

Here is another image from my Amazon Prime Photos library:






https://content-na.drive.amazonaws.com/cdproxy/templink/H3I2qsW_CSr3toDTCrNTSm1UPx841zhcJxYKW83iiwIpX92IB? viewBox=1318%2C873

[QB93Z]

The problem I have with the picture is that I cannot resize the picture during the post composition, It appears very large on my screen.


Jim

[QB93Z]

V\http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?pictureid=4&albumid=8&dl=1255891926&thumb=1 (http://www.zr1.net/forum/album.php?albumid=8)

[WARP TEN]

Here is another image from my Amazon Prime Photos library:


https://content-na.drive.amazonaws.com/cdproxy/templink/H3I2qsW_CSr3toDTCrNTSm1UPx841zhcJxYKW83iiwIpX92IB? viewBox=1318%2C873

I can't even see any pictures--just a small black box with an "x" in it.-Bob

[QB93Z]

Yes, I know. When I first posted it, the picture was there. I guess that Amazon found out and is blocking the link or replaced the link with an "x".


So, Plan B didn't work, I will be searching for other options.


Jim

[conesare2seconds]

Re Amazon hosting: the links created by linking or copying pics seem to have a shelf life of a few days to a week, then they time out. Seems Amazon isn't going to be the solution I'd hoped for build threads.

[WARP TEN]

[QUOTE=conesare2seconds;264624]Re Amazon hosting: the links created by linking or copying pics seem to have a shelf life of a few days to a week, then they time out. Seems Amazon isn't going to be the solution I'd hoped for build threads.[/QUOTE


I am a Prime member and utilize their streaming music service which is without ads. They time out the music service--after about an hour of playing it just stops. Have to start again, not a big deal but annoying. Probably to lessen the chance commercial users will use it continuously. --Bob

[WVZR-1]

The PhotoBucket option of storage fit the usage by all when most hard-drives were 90G or less many very small maybe 30G. There's maybe some that don't remember those days.

Today I'd think there's very little reason to use PB for anything. Nearly every service that we use offers "back up" storage for next to nothing. Many offer substantial for nothing.

If you post your snapshots as attachments from your HDD that's it, it's done.The PB was seemingly useful because you could just use a "image link" and post anyone's snapshots to one of your posts. I haven't used PB for many, many years and I understand what they're trying to control. The fee seems excessive but I think I get it. If you want others to be able to use the "image link" to share - you pay!

I don't believe any of the "storage" as back-up options are going to work (but I haven't tried) for just image linking.

Jim - I'd think you likely have folders with your various trips compiled and I'd think on your computers. If you're an i-device user their storage is very inexpensive.

If you see an image on the Internet you need/want you first need to get it "under your control" if you wish to use it.

[ssrszz4]

I remember when only one family in the neighborhood had a TV !!

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[WVZR-1]

I remember when only one family in the neighborhood had a TV !!

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The TV wasn't at my house!!!!

[QB93Z]

.........Jim - I'd think you likely have folders with your various trips compiled and I'd think on your computers. If you're an i-device user their storage is very inexpensive.

If you see an image on the Internet you need/want you first need to get it "under your control" if you wish to use it.



Dave, You are correct, I have lots and lots of photos saved in folders and directories and backed up to hard drives and raid drives that I control. I only use Photo Bucket for the images that I want to post on the Registry Forum. I have over 3000 photos on PB.


I have experimented with the Forum Attachment to display photos. I was not happy with the reduced quality after I resized the images and I like to be able to imbed the images inline with the text so my narratives flow better.


The Board has discussed this issue and we are exploring other options to continue the valuable capability of posting pictures on our Forum.


I hope this discussion will continue and if anyone has additional suggestions, please post here or contact me.


Jim

[WVZR-1]

Dave, You are correct, I have lots and lots of photos saved in folders and directories and backed up to hard drives and raid drives that I control. I only use Photo Bucket for the images that I want to post on the Registry Forum. I have over 3000 photos on PB.


I have experimented with the Forum Attachment to display photos. I was not happy with the reduced quality after I resized the images and I like to be able to imbed the images inline with the text so my narratives flow better.


The Board has discussed this issue and we are exploring other options to continue the valuable capability of posting pictures on our Forum.


I hope this discussion will continue and if anyone has additional suggestions, please post here or contact me.


Jim


Using the CF as an example in comparison CF is MAX FILE SIZE FOR ALL TYPES of FILES "5MB" with no WIDTH - HEIGHT Restrictions.

Here you have a restriction of 1.91MB for JPEG, PNG with WIDTH (1000) and HEIGHT (1200). The forum has created the issues with the restrictions in the file size allowed.

Here I'd say the restrictions control the "resizing" that's seen.

[BigJohn]

The TV wasn't at my house!!!!

Yep it was at my house!
It was fun everyone In the neighborhood would come over to watch tv and bring snacks.

[ssrszz4]

Yes it really is true we used to go across the street to watch cartoons on Saturday morning.

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[WVZR-1]

I am seeing more of this in linked posts....guess there is a rebellion going on :D

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z181/cigarmanpa/powerkeyrebuild/IMG-20110727-00135.jpg

It ain't a rebellion - they've just started to actually enforce their 3d party linking restrictions. If a user had one of their very old "paid" hosting accounts they're very likely still good. If a user had nothing other than their "free" hosting then they've locked them down.

I believe you've an older "paid" account with them and you could be covered for the time being or maybe as long as you pay.

What type of an account do you actually have with them?

[5ABI VT]

I'm struggling to find another as well. Been using pb for many years with write ups and posts on many forums over the last decade and a half. Don't blame them for changing their policy and i was happy to pay monthly or yearly but to ask what they have and how they have done it.. I will be deleting my accounts.

I almost feel like a web noob all over again ! Any suggestions on sites that provide an [img] link ?

[WVZR-1]

I'm struggling to find another as well. Been using pb for many years with write ups and posts on many forums over the last decade and a half. Don't blame them for changing their policy and i was happy to pay monthly or yearly but to ask what they have and how they have done it.. I will be deleting my accounts.

I almost feel like a web noob all over again ! Any suggestions on sites that provide an [img] link ?


I don't believe I'd "DELETE ACCOUNT" the hosting is still FREE up to a limit and still available to the USER. I would think that if you wanted you could actually DOWNLOAD the images back to you if you've no image retained on your HDD.

[QB93Z]

Another test post:


http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp152/QB93Z/2017%20SW%20Trip/DSC_0110.jpg (http://s407.photobucket.com/user/QB93Z/media/2017%20SW%20Trip/DSC_0110.jpg.html)


Jim

[WVZR-1]

Another test post:


http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp152/QB93Z/2017%20SW%20Trip/DSC_0087.jpg (http://s407.photobucket.com/user/QB93Z/media/2017%20SW%20Trip/DSC_0087.jpg.html)


Jim

Can you resize that to 1000 X 1200? That would I believe MAX the forum's restrictions OR were you just interested in making the IMAGE work?

[QB93Z]

Can you resize that to 1000 X 1200? That would I believe MAX the forum's restrictions OR were you just interested in making the IMAGE work?



Right now I am investigating how to replace the images in a post if I decide to sever my ties with PB.


Jim

[WVZR-1]

Right now I am investigating how to replace the images in a post if I decide to sever my ties with PB.


Jim

I assumed that when I looked at the "image properties" but thought I'd ask.

[WARP TEN]

So am I correct I understand that with Photobucket your photos do not belong to you and can't be used as you wish? I would think that a storage medium has no rights whatsoever to your photos and should make them readily available for return to you. As I noted earlier, Gmail has a great utility that can retrieve all the emails and contacts from AOL to relocate them onto Gmail. One would think some alternative photo hosting site should have such a utility. Or at least one would think you should be able to retrieve all the photos you created and own from PB without a big hassle. Glad I keep mine on my computer and various backups. How to make sure all the right photos are in out many posts is a trickier issue I would imagine, Jim. --Bob

[QB93Z]

Bob, I have not worried about who "owns" the images that I place on PhotoBucket. I do know that many other Cloud storage services have user agreements that claim ownership of any posted material. I have all of my images on HDD's that I control.


Last night, I tried to download one of the many albums that I have on PB as a way to keep all of the images from a given trip or post together so I can relocate them to a subsequent server. I clicked Download this Album from PB and nothing happened, so I might not be able to easily keep the organization and I will have to go back to each trip source folder and figure out all the image numbers again.


I have the option of using the server that hosts my website (www.GizmosArt.com (http://www.GizmosArt.com)) and do the third-party hosting from there. The down side of that plan is that I use an FTP program to transfer the files to the host server and the interface is not great. Does anyone know a better way.


Jim

[Gunny]

My .02 (adjusted for inflation) with a huge caveat ... I don't like & refuse to use a photo host that assumes ownership of my copyrighted property.

If you have more than a few photos consider hosting yourself.
What do you need? a domain name and a web host plus a little time/effort on your part to learn how to manage your photos. If you can download your photos from your camera to your computer and then organize them in folders, you're already over half way to doing this entirely yourself. It's not rocket science ... or to be blunt, it's easier than pulling the plenum.

Cost:
domain name should not cost over $10 annually
web hosts are available for less than $5.00 a month - some include a free domain name when you sign up for a year or more
I prefer to use a dedicated domain name registrar and keep my domain name separate from my web host giving me the flexibility of changing web hosts if/when their service becomes unsatisfactory.
PM or email me if you want/need additional information including recommendations for registrar and/or web host. There are some good, affordable companies and there are some that are just rotten and should be avoided. Most web hosts offer unlimited storage for your website but NOT storage for other files - use DropBox, GoogleSpace, Amazon, etc. for file storage.

Pros:
total control of your photos, web pages, design, etc.
no advertising
unlimited space (generally)
email that you control & generally more private than gmail, hotmail, etc.
cost is easily $80 or less depending on how well you shop
Cons:
a small learning curve at the beginning

I currently design/develop/maintain 3 personal websites plus 1 for my wife's organization. My websites are almost exclusively about photos with very little "other" content. The software that I use for the photos is free (with advertising) or very reasonable (no advertising plus more features). The software is extremely easy to use but also affords a good bit of customization for those who want to do so ... yes, I do a lot of additional hard coding for the "look" that I want, but it's not necessary - just one of my hobbies.

Recommended software: jAlbum (http://jalbum.net). Everything you need to build nice looking web pages to display photos.

Links to my sites: You can email me from any of these sites by clicking Info on the home page (icon in upper left corner or on the menu bar)
ZRWON.com (http://zrwon.com) 10,000+ Corvette related images, mostly ZR-1.
TUBAND.com (http://tuband.com) almost 20,000 images - family, travel, bands I play in, etc.
JRET.net (http://jret.net) selected images dealing with my photography hobby. I have a good bit of extra hard coding to customize this site including the homepage slideshow that changes every hour.

Jim V - if you haven't already considered self hosting you might want to check to see if you have an unlimited plan with gismos art. If you do have unlimited it should be a simple matter of going into the control panel and creating a single folder, hopefully in the root directory such that your photo album address would look like: gismosart.com/photos. The photo album would never appear on your main gismos website but would be "self contained". Another method is to use this address: photos.gismosart.com - assuming your web host allows the use of sub-domain names. Once you have "built" your photo web pages on your computer it is a simple matter to upload everything to your photo folder using the FTP protocol. Contact me if you have any questions.

So what is my total cost for the three websites described above?
3 domain names @ $8.50 each per year (I usually pay for 5 years at a time)
1 web host account that allows multiple domain names with unlimited webspace, unlimited bandwidth, unlimited email addresses - $7.95 monthly

fwiw, my wife's website costs her $8.50 annually for the domain name plus FREE unlimited web hosting because her organization is a 501c3. This website is more traditional but it does have a photo section ... here's the LINK (http://burkeconcert.org) if you're interested.

My observation is that the various photo hosting companies are looking at all the photographers as cash cows and at the same time want to impose unrealistic "rules of usage". I find that totally unacceptable.

Since it's becoming difficult to find acceptable "free" photo hosting I recommend that anyone, especially those with large photo collections, consider self hosting.

Apologies for the long post (and a couple of rants), but I wanted everyone to know that other alternatives are available that work as well or better than the dedicated photo hosts.

[Roadster]

I also have the Plus 20 account. I'm sure we can find an option within the next 18 months....
I won't pay $399 a year....I'll just use my smart phone and computer storage as I already do now for my pics. If I use my smart phone to post on the forums, I upload my pics right from the phone. Which I have done many times, doing that, there isn't any need for Photobucket at all.

[Gunny]

Actually, you might be able to use the jAlbum software to generate your web pages and utilize space provided by the jAlbum folks. I don't think it requires a domain name or anything like that. It's fairly basic and may have a free trial period. You can read more about it at jAlbum's site ... should be a better alternative than the more "mainstream" photo hosts. Just a thought.

[QB93Z]

Thanks George (Gunny), I was planning to contact you about this but you beat me to it.


I will download a trail of jAlbum and see what is does for me. Does jAlbum provide a simple way to allow third party hosting of individual images? Photo Bucket has a built in feature that creates a html text line that pastes directly into the post editor dialog box in vBulletin on the Registry Forum.


BTW, all of your albums are wonderful.


Jim

[G-Sting]

My .02 (adjusted for inflation) with a huge caveat ... I don't like & refuse to use a photo host that assumes ownership of my copyrighted property.

If you have more than a few photos consider hosting yourself.
What do you need? a domain name and a web host plus a little time/effort on your part to learn how to manage your photos. If you can download your photos from your camera to your computer and then organize them in folders, you're already over half way to doing this entirely yourself. It's not rocket science ... or to be blunt, it's easier than pulling the plenum.

Cost:
domain name should not cost over $10 annually
web hosts are available for less than $5.00 a month - some include a free domain name when you sign up for a year or more
I prefer to use a dedicated domain name registrar and keep my domain name separate from my web host giving me the flexibility of changing web hosts if/when their service becomes unsatisfactory.
PM or email me if you want/need additional information including recommendations for registrar and/or web host. There are some good, affordable companies and there are some that are just rotten and should be avoided. Most web hosts offer unlimited storage for your website but NOT storage for other files - use DropBox, GoogleSpace, Amazon, etc. for file storage.

Pros:
total control of your photos, web pages, design, etc.
no advertising
unlimited space (generally)
email that you control & generally more private than gmail, hotmail, etc.
cost is easily $80 or less depending on how well you shop
Cons:
a small learning curve at the beginning

I currently design/develop/maintain 3 personal websites plus 1 for my wife's organization. My websites are almost exclusively about photos with very little "other" content. The software that I use for the photos is free (with advertising) or very reasonable (no advertising plus more features). The software is extremely easy to use but also affords a good bit of customization for those who want to do so ... yes, I do a lot of additional hard coding for the "look" that I want, but it's not necessary - just one of my hobbies.

Recommended software: jAlbum (http://jalbum.net). Everything you need to build nice looking web pages to display photos.

Links to my sites: You can email me from any of these sites by clicking Info on the home page (icon in upper left corner or on the menu bar)
ZRWON.com (http://zrwon.com) 10,000+ Corvette related images, mostly ZR-1.
TUBAND.com (http://tuband.com) almost 20,000 images - family, travel, bands I play in, etc.
JRET.net (http://jret.net) selected images dealing with my photography hobby. I have a good bit of extra hard coding to customize this site including the homepage slideshow that changes every hour.

Jim V - if you haven't already considered self hosting you might want to check to see if you have an unlimited plan with gismos art. If you do have unlimited it should be a simple matter of going into the control panel and creating a single folder, hopefully in the root directory such that your photo album address would look like: gismosart.com/photos. The photo album would never appear on your main gismos website but would be "self contained". Another method is to use this address: photos.gismosart.com - assuming your web host allows the use of sub-domain names. Once you have "built" your photo web pages on your computer it is a simple matter to upload everything to your photo folder using the FTP protocol. Contact me if you have any questions.

So what is my total cost for the three websites described above?
3 domain names @ $8.50 each per year (I usually pay for 5 years at a time)
1 web host account that allows multiple domain names with unlimited webspace, unlimited bandwidth, unlimited email addresses - $7.95 monthly

fwiw, my wife's website costs her $8.50 annually for the domain name plus FREE unlimited web hosting because her organization is a 501c3. This website is more traditional but it does have a photo section ... here's the LINK (http://burkeconcert.org) if you're interested.

My observation is that the various photo hosting companies are looking at all the photographers as cash cows and at the same time want to impose unrealistic "rules of usage". I find that totally unacceptable.

Since it's becoming difficult to find acceptable "free" photo hosting I recommend that anyone, especially those with large photo collections, consider self hosting.

Apologies for the long post (and a couple of rants), but I wanted everyone to know that other alternatives are available that work as well or better than the dedicated photo hosts.

Gunny,

Thanks for posting details on setting up your own websites/hosting. I've been reading this thread with interest - and bothered by the PB 'forcing' payment to keep going. They were almost doing it before with their annoying/gross advertisements, but now...

I was looking into smugmug.com as a host as it is a quality photo site, but I wouldn't use all the features for the $.

I like the idea of control over the site and photos/documents that you are suggesting with having your own domain name & web host. Will look into it, unless someone else comes up with a better idea in the next few weeks.

Last, and final thought, is: If a lot of folks are still using PB and it would be a big hassle to change, would it be possible for the ZR-1 Registry board to see if they could get a 'group discount' for PB paid membership? ...just a thought.

Thanks again,
G

[Gunny]

Thanks George (Gunny), I was planning to contact you about this but you beat me to it.

I will download a trail of jAlbum and see what is does for me. Does jAlbum provide a simple way to allow third party hosting of individual images? Photo Bucket has a built in feature that creates a html text line that pastes directly into the post editor dialog box in vBulletin on the Registry Forum.

BTW, all of your albums are wonderful.

Jim

Jim -
give jAlbum a try ... I suspect you'll feel right at home very quickly. The docs are very good plus there is a very helpful forums section where you can usually get help from the various developers/authors.

in a nutshell the jAlbum workflow works like this ...
organize your photos in folders (these become the albums that you will eventually upload to your host server)
open the jAlbum program
choose a skin ... I suggest you try Gromit first as it adapts to & looks good on any device
check/edit the various jAlbum settings ... important: be sure you have all of your source files in one folder and a different destination folder for the completed files (i.e. the generated files that are uploaded to your server). I recommend that you use copies of your original images in the source folders even though they theoretically are never changed.
run jAlbum ... click on the build/make button to create your website.
you can preview the album, make changes, etc. then rebuild to suit your taste.
upload using the upload routine built into jAlbum or use a separate FTP program such as FileZilla (free)
on a small website (fewer than 500 images) jAlbum/Gromit should build your complete website in 5-10 minutes ... add another 10-15 minutes for upload and you're done


If jAlbum (or one of the skins) can auto generate an html link I'm not aware of it. I'm old school and just go to the page/image that I want and copy the link then paste into the editor of the forums.
Try this:
click HERE (http://www.zrwon.com/events/120824/slides/50D_6752.html)
click the address bar and edit 50D_6752.html to 50D_6752.JPG to open the image by itself (if JPG doesn't work, try lower case jpg)
click the address bar again and copy the complete http address and paste into the Z registry editor using the insert image button


this is not as simple as clicking a button to generate the link but I'm so used to doing it this way I haven't looked for a 1-touch solution. jAlbum/Gromit have so many options there may indeed be a quicker method.

Also, as I mentioned in my 2nd post ... jAlbum does offer photo hosting (free or very reasonable) that does not involve getting a separate domain name or paying for a web hosting account. I haven't tried it but it may work just fine for most people. Since jAlbum and the various skins are all open source I doubt seriously that you would be prevented from using 3rd party links, at least not by them. It's usually the web host that places those restrictions and my web host has never restricted me in any way.

The beauty of jAlbum is its simplicity of organizing everything on your computer, building the page(s), and then uploading - keeping all of your originals on your computer. The first time or two the process might be a little daunting (much like a plenum pull) but after a couple of times it's really quick & easy. And if simplicity/ease begins to bore you there are tons of ways to mod your final look, which is what I've been doing to all of my sites. Knowledge of HTML, CSS, and a few other little bits is handy, but not totally necessary.

Give it a try, send me the link, and I'll take a look. Feel free to email or call me if you run into any glitches.

Bet you'll take to it like a duck ...

[Gunny]

Thanks George:

<a href="http://www.zrwon.com/events/120824/slides/50D_6752.html http://www.zrwon.com/events/120824/slides/50D_6752.jpg[/URL]

Jim

change your link to "http://www.zrwon.com/events/120824/slides/50D_6752.JPG" upper case

then click the insert image button and paste the new link w/upper case to make the image display
http://www.zrwon.com/events/120824/slides/50D_6752.JPG

and then you discover the image linked from my website is too large.
use jAlbum to size the image to whatever size you want so that the link to 3rd party sites will be the desired size. if only one or two images, use photo editing software to adjust images to your taste. FWIW, jAlbum provides the building of albums with custom thumbnail size (120x160px), custom image size (600x800px), PLUS the ability to click to a larger or the original image should you need/want that size. Harder to explain than actually implement.

To recap ... select any thumbnail on any of my sites, click the thumbnail to open the larger image, note the link & change the end of the link from "html" to "JPG" and you have the link for a direct connect to the image. All of my images are optimized to look good on a 26" flat screen but when clicking on the html image page the code recognizes the device and resizes the image accordingly. If you have a smart phone or iPad compare the page appearance to a desktop computer with larger screen. Again, that's one reason I use the Gromit skin.

[QB93Z]

Trying from my website:


http://www.gizmosart.com/webimages/corvette/qbonsbr.jpg



Jim

[WARP TEN]

Trying from my website:


http://www.gizmosart.com/webimages/corvette/qbonsbr.jpg



Jim



What a great looking '93 Quasar Blue ZR-1!!!! :-D --Bob

[Gunny]

Trying from my website:

http://www.gizmosart.com/webimages/corvette/qbonsbr.jpg

Jim

I see someone's doing his homework ... looks good, Jim.

I see that you're linking to your gizmo site ... are you also using jAlbum to generate your images? The author of the Gromit skin that I recommended also has a NoPages skin that may be more suitable for your needs ... click HERE (https://jgromit.com) then click the NoPages tab for more info.

I played with NoPages sometime back and it looks to be an effective way to resize a large number of images in a batch operation, especially if you're not interested in building a website. Upload the edited images to a folder on your web server for 3rd party linking. For editing images I generally prefer PhotoShop but for web authoring, I've found nothing better than jAlbum for building my photo websites.

On a fast computer w/plenty of RAM, jAlbum is reasonably quick & efficient in building (rebuilding) albums ... my computer usually handles about 5000 images in less than 10 minutes. Uploading is another matter. I don't have access to really fast internet ... it's OK for normal stuff but large uploads I usually do at night while sleeping.

[tf95ZR1]

A little off track, but George (Gunny) I looked at some of your photos.
Absolutely BEAUTIFUL & AMAZING! I am impressed.
Side job as an automobile photographer?

Back on track. How about security of the website?

[Gunny]

A little off track, but George (Gunny) I looked at some of your photos.
Absolutely BEAUTIFUL & AMAZING! I am impressed.
Side job as an automobile photographer? ....

Thanks ... much appreciated. Several of my photos were featured in the June/July 2015 edition of America's Sports Car (NCM's magazine) on pp. 14-15. I also do a good amount of event photography locally but travel photography is probably the most enjoyable. If you get a chance check the other links on the earlier post.

[QB93Z]

A little off track, but George (Gunny) I looked at some of your photos.
Absolutely BEAUTIFUL & AMAZING! I am impressed.
Side job as an automobile photographer?

Back on track. How about security of the website?



The security of the website is always a concern. My thought right now is that I am already running a website from GizmosArt.com, so using my storage space to host my own car pictures will not impact the security. If someone can use the photo tag to get access to my data files, please let me know.


http://www.gizmosart.com/webimages/corvette/qband440.JPG



<img src="http://www.gizmosart.com/webimages/corvette/qbonsbr.jpg"border="0"alt=""/>



Jim


Edit: Now I can't get a photo to show. I guess my quota is 1 per day.

[Gunny]

The security of the website is always a concern. My thought right now is that I am already running a website from GizmosArt.com, so using my storage space to host my own car pictures will not impact the security. If someone can use the photo tag to get access to my data files, please let me know.

I followed the link to your photo, then tried to see if there was a website or other photos to view. Viewing anything else is blocked so I would say your data is secure from most folks.

[Gunny]

Edit: Now I can't get a photo to show. I guess my quota is 1 per day.

Fix your URL link

http://www.gizmosart.com/webimages/corvette/qbonsbr.jpg

Your link should begin with http: and end with .jpg or .JPG (images are case sensitive).

Try this and you'll see what I mean ...
right click on the image in this post
select copy image address
reply to my post
click the Insert Image icon on the tool bar above the edit window
paste image address
click Preview Post at bottom

Image should display ... if not, something is amiss & will need to be tracked down.

[Gunny]

T

<img src="http://www.gizmosart.com/webimages/corvette/qbonsbr.jpg"border="0"alt=""/>



the code for your URL will not work in this setting ... it has too many unnecessary commands that are causing the <img src= to show up as well as the border and alt commands at the end of the line. that is html programming that you would use in a website and is not needed when inserting a link to images stored on other servers.

[QB93Z]

the code for your URL will not work in this setting ... it has too many unnecessary commands that are causing the <img src= to show up as well as the border and alt commands at the end of the line. that is html programming that you would use in a website and is not needed when inserting a link to images stored on other servers.



That IMG SRC html text came from the HTML code that generates the page we are on. I was just trying to see what my link looked like.


I have tried many combinations of the pieces that worked and haven't hit on the correct combination yet for another picture in the same directory as the qbonsbr.jpeg picture.

Maybe it is an image size issue. I am going to go out to the garage and turn a wrench for a while. I am much better at that than HTML coding.

Jim

[QB93Z]

trying again:




http://www.gizmosart.com/webimages/corvette/qband440v2.jpg


http://www.gizmosart.com/webimages/corvette/qbonsbr.jpg




http://www.gizmosart.com/webimages/corvette/qbonsr.jpg




http://www.gizmosart.com/webimages/corvette/qbon27.jpg


The image below is hosted by DropBox, but I can't get this image to host from my website like the other QB images?????


http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp152/QB93Z/00%20test/qband440.jpg (http://s407.photobucket.com/user/QB93Z/media/00%20test/qband440.jpg.html)


Jim

[Gunny]

The first image qband440v2.jpg is not displaying here or with direct entry of the URL into my browser. With direct entry I'm also getting the Not Found [CFN #0005] error that leads me to believe the file is not there or the address is wrong. Double check that the file is in the correct location or even upload it again.

Image 2, qbonsr.jpg, displays OK here as well as direct entry.

Image 3, qbon27.jpg is also OK both ways.

Image 4, is obviously displaying here as well as the direct link to PB ... but when I try to redirect the image to a new browser tab, PB "complains" and redirects me back to their site. Interesting ... and further proof of the lengths they will take to control anything/everything about their site. I think the PB image is the image qband440.jpg and I'm guessing that if you're linking from PB to the Z forum that you're being blocked. Also, if you downloaded the image from PB and then uploaded to your gizmo server it's possible that PB has altered the image in some way to prevent you from using it on the web. If this is the case I suggest that you upload your original image to gizmo, taking care that you double check the URL path including the jpg or JPG extension.

Earlier you mentioned that you were concerned about size limitations on the Z forum but several posts back I linked to one of my images that obviously needs to be resized for use here. I can't remember the size of that image but fairly certain that it's at least 2700px (downsized from the original that was over 5000px).

I doubt that size is an issue of uploading/viewing but it's a terrible annoyance to viewers who don't want to navigate the huge images. If the forum software has the ability to auto resize linked images it would be a good idea to turn on this "feature". That said I try to resize my images to 600x800px for the forum even though most of the images on my websites are greater than 2400px. My website software auto sizes all images to accommodate the device being used, from smartphone to 30" flat screens.

Try loading more images (not previously uploaded elsewhere) from your computer to gizmo, including at least one that's larger than 2000px and see what your results are. I'm thinking something else is going on in the background that might need further experimentation.

Wish I were there ... I'd gladly trade some IT assistance for some help installing my "new to me" AVIC in the Z. I'm truly considering driving up for one of your maintenance days (the real purpose would be to visit my granddaughters).

We are having a severe thunderstorm now ... electricity is out and the only thing working is my laptop and DSL (battery will be dying soon), so I'm signing off for awhile. Try the suggestions & post up. I'll check back when we get some power.

[G-Sting]

Tests good, Dynomite.

Found this work around for hosting an image which is in a (free) dropbox account. It does appear to work - for now. I am not a computer geek, so not sure why it's working, but...

Reference "Step 2" in the link https://milanaryal.com/hosting-images-with-dropbox-on-your-website/

The steps I used:
1. On Macbook, uploaded an 86kb (smallest) file of the image into a dropbox folder.
2. Control/Click on desired image -- "Copy Dropbox Link".
3. Go to forum and "reply" then click on "Insert Image" icon.
4. After pasting the Dropbox Link, simply change the preface from
https://www.dropbox.com
-- to --
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com

then finish inserting the image into the reply, by clicking "OK".

Example: (Sorry, not a ZR-1, but a WWI Dr.I ! Similar name and occasional similar attitudes by the drivers of ZR-1 and drivers of DR-1! :mrgreen: )

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/mx9p43z8h4cvovc/Dr.I%20Med.jpg?dl=0

[WVZR-1]

Tests good, Dynomite.

Found this work around for hosting an image which is in a (free) dropbox account. It does appear to work - for now. I am not a computer geek, so not sure why it's working, but...




For this I'd think you need to be a PAID DropBox user (to establish some security) and I'm not to sure just what settings you might have to use for your DropBox account. How much information are you inadvertently sharing? I ain't gonna try my FREE DropBox!

I believe that everyone's solution isn't going to be the same or even similar. For most I'd think moving forward they just use their own devices for forum posting when needed. Storage of material for back-up a personal choice.

I understand I believe the PB approach and the "instant control" shut off was I'm sure to get at the abuse from business users and users for the auction sites. If the business/mass users of PB had been paying appropriately it likely might have not come to this.

Would a conversation from an individual with PB for a more reasonable rate work? If I had substantial storage there I'd maybe have a conversation. Between now and the Dec '18 cut-off for paid users of PB things could certainly change but I'd be looking for a solution now vs waiting.

[Ccmano]

While I am far from being an expert on this, it is coming clear that relying on a third party, PhotoBucket or whoever, is not a reliable long term solution. If this is not addressed we will forever run the risk of loosing valuable information and data. I believe it was brought up in the thread already, but it may be time to investigate establishing our own server(s). Remember, even the data on this forum is through a third party.

This may be a issue for the ZR-1.net officers and members to take up. Ultimately some of the clubs money may have to be directed at this issue. I, for one, would be willing to pay an additional $5 or $10 a year on my dues to maintain servers for this purpose.

Maybe some of you that actually know what your talking about (unlike me) can chime in on this.

H
:cheers:

[WVZR-1]

Right now I'd think a "reasonable" approach by this Forum would be to "lock this thread", open a discussion thread that's related and a "TESTING" sub-topic for users to experiment with. This thread and the "testing" is I'm sure difficult for some to comprehend - It for sure is me! I've not used PB since maybe '12.

Aside from Jim's tests and G-Sting's mention of what's used for the most part it's just images.

Cliff - very dependent upon the browser used a "right click" of the image should get you "image dimensions" I use a Vivaldi browser which is a highly modified "Chrome" derivative and I can use a right click > inspect to see image dimensions.

I'd think Cliff that PB certainly sees how frequently your images have been used for 3d party postings and that would/could certainly influence their end of the conversation. Can you actually see statistics that are relevant from your account?

Gunny for sure "gets it" and I've enjoyed his comments! If I had the quantity of images that some have I'd be searching much harder than I am.

Maybe when creating a "related thread" you sort through these 8 pages (so far) and move the "RELEVANT" posts to the newer thread. Might make for much better reading.

[Dynomite]

There are lots of options using Forum Albums for most that post. It is fast, simple and you can size photos for posting easily on either Forum (Registry or CF).
I just determined we can NOW have up to 10 images in each post on the Registry.

Will determine soon how many photos you can load on CF Albums which you only need to reload one photo which can be sized as you post using pixels.

You can load 400 photos on Registry Albums and Resize using Paint before you load using Pixel Sizing.

The photos below top are CF 133, 400, 800 widths.
The photos bottom are Registry 800 and 400 pixel widths.

See Item #3 Resizing Photos for Forum Posts and Creating Reference Links (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-zr-1-discussion/3005470-tech-info-lt5-modifications-rebuild-tricks-500-hp-7.html#post1584988203)

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.corvetteforum.com-vbulletin/266x100/80-picture_php_pictureid_164659_1eb7e7d265df47de66e0e 117d87c54c1cd05fe5a.jpghttps://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.corvetteforum.com-vbulletin/266x100/80-picture_php_pictureid_164659_1eb7e7d265df47de66e0e 117d87c54c1cd05fe5a.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.corvetteforum.com-vbulletin/400x300/80-picture_php_pictureid_164659_1eb7e7d265df47de66e0e 117d87c54c1cd05fe5a.jpghttps://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.corvetteforum.com-vbulletin/400x300/80-picture_php_pictureid_164659_1eb7e7d265df47de66e0e 117d87c54c1cd05fe5a.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.corvetteforum.com-vbulletin/800x600/80-picture_php_pictureid_164659_1eb7e7d265df47de66e0e 117d87c54c1cd05fe5a.jpg
http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=211&pictureid=3064http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=211&pictureid=3063
http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=211&pictureid=3188
http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=211&pictureid=3189http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=211&pictureid=3189

Right now I'd think a "reasonable" approach by this Forum would be to "lock this thread", open a discussion thread that's related and a "TESTING" sub-topic for users to experiment with. This thread and the "testing" is I'm sure difficult for some to comprehend - It for sure is me! I've not used PB since maybe '12.

Aside from Jim's tests and G-Sting's mention of what's used for the most part it's just images.

Maybe when creating a "related thread" you sort through these 8 pages (so far) and move the "RELEVANT" posts to the newer thread. Might make for much better reading.

A reasonable approach would be to keep this thread open as long as new concepts/approaches to photo posting are brought to our attention. If you cannot comprehend......e-mail me and I can help you in that regard.

It may be Images.....but a photo is often worth a 1,000 words.
We have BIGGER issues with many great technical posts relying on IMAGES for clarity now having those IMAGES disappear. AND IMMEDIATELY.

[G-Sting]

Dynomite,

First off, we (at least I) owe you a number of drinks of your favorite beverage for all you do here. Thank you.

Yes, the critical nature of this topic is understood - especially all the previous threads relying on hosted images for clarity.

I think those of us who use PB some, but purely for forum hosting purposes -- not for a business -- are taken by surprise all of a sudden PB wanting a monthly subscription payment. Not that I'm adverse to paying it, but was trying with my attempt at using a free Dropbox subscription to make something work. I've had it for years, and have never had any issues with security. It's been a great way to transfer documents and photos to people I've needed to pass things on to. Hard to keep up with all the subscriptions/websites one is on. Trying to simply life... if that is even possible these days! lol

In any case, Ccmano's suggestion is excellent, if that is a consideration:

While I am far from being an expert on this, it is coming clear that relying on a third party, PhotoBucket or whoever, is not a reliable long term solution. If this is not addressed we will forever run the risk of loosing valuable information and data. I believe it was brought up in the thread already, but it may be time to investigate establishing our own server(s). Remember, even the data on this forum is through a third party.

This may be a issue for the ZR-1.net officers and members to take up. Ultimately some of the clubs money may have to be directed at this issue. I, for one, would be willing to pay an additional $5 or $10 a year on my dues to maintain servers for this purpose.

Maybe some of you that actually know what your talking about (unlike me) can chime in on this.

HTesting an attachment which I resized using a Mac's "Paintbrush" app (but similar to your instructions for "Paint"), as I have not been in the habit of attaching photos, but rather hosting through PB.

[Dynomite]

Using our Registry Albums.......first is 800 pixels wide....second is 400 pixels wide....third is 200 pixel wide.......Nice Photo.....I am assuming you do not mind me experimenting with your photo :thumbsup:

For some reason no one is talking registry albums and if they are now at 400 photos would cover most photo usage on the Forum. It just crossed my mind.....maybe you have to be a paying member to have Albums I would guess but the annual dues for Registry membership are reasonable.

You can now insert 10 images in each post (a very recent upgrade here on Registry). I have 10 images in this post including smilies.

As an aside.....storing my photos here in Albums even if Registry goes up in flames......I only use the photos on the Registry (I have experimented between Forums a bit) so Lost Albums are no loss since the usage is also lost if you get my drift.

I am talking Albums on the Forums Simply because it is so easy to use and would be so easy to increase and pay for upgrades in photo quantity. You can store 400 photos in your Albums on Registry. On Corvette Forum the photo storage is about 500 photos.

The TRICK is after you have selected 800 or 400 pixels or 200 pixel using Paint....and after you have uploaded to Registry Albums.....you then click on that photo in your Albums (either 800 pixel I call L or 400 pixel I call M) and hit copy....then paste in post using the insert image above (in edit mode) OR.....just place url link between and in edit mode...or copy and paste BB Code :handshak:

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=211&pictureid=3190
http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=211&pictureid=3191http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=211&pictureid=3191
http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=211&pictureid=3192http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=211&pictureid=3192http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=211&pictureid=3192http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=211&pictureid=3192

[lfalzarano]

Clarification Please. The proposal to post photos on a increase in Registry membership is an excellent idea. BUT the Forum is available to anyone and they will not be contributing financially to paying for this image server. The Forum would need to limited to Registry members only. Otherwise we are paying for non-members photo's. That is not fair.

Comments?


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[Dynomite]

Clarification Please. The proposal to post photos on a increase in Registry membership is an excellent idea. BUT the Forum is available to anyone and they will not be contributing financially to paying for this image server. The Forum would need to limited to Registry members only. Otherwise we are paying for non-members photo's. That is not fair.

Comments?


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CONCUR :handshak:

So.....Registry Non Members have photo storage same as Registry Members?

I get the feeling this is none of my business :cheers:
If this thread gets closed.....we will know this is none of my business :D
I got in trouble one time showing a photo of a grain cart alongside a semi truck in corn field as being wasteful regarding photo usage but that is all I had at the time in my Album trying to show photo sizing in posts.

Some of these boys do not know if I am joking, teasing, making fun, having fun, or just trying to help....that is where I get into trouble......

:sign10:

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=211&pictureid=1614

[A1990]

CONCUR :handshak:

So.....Registry Non Members have photo storage same as Registry Members?

I get the feeling this is none of my business :cheers:
If this thread gets closed.....we will know this is none of my business :D
I got in trouble one time showing a photo of a grain cart alongside a semi truck in corn field as being wasteful regarding photo usage but that is all I had at the time in my Album trying to show photo sizing in posts.

Some of these boys do not know if I am joking, teasing, making fun, having fun, or just trying to help....that is where I get into trouble......

:sign10:

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=211&pictureid=1614

That was me Cliff, but as with yourself, you didn't realize I was just joking! :cheers:

I also changed the setting for 10 images per post.

We (The Board of the Registry) are looking at our options of using the Albums (I don't see a way to upload videos??) or hosting our own image server. I am not sure if the use of Albums is limited or not or if it can be.

Our concern is what you are just discussing, members vs non-members. If we host our own image server we can add videos and also control this to be a members only access site, however we would need to create a from end interface to allow uploading and managing of images.

Our main concern is the continuity of the images as we have holes in threads now so we would like to be able to store, backup and preserve them.

Stay tuned as we would like to provide the "solution"

[Dynomite]

That was me Cliff, but as with yourself, you didn't realize I was just joking! :cheers:

I also changed the setting for 10 images per post.

We (The Board of the Registry) are looking at our options of using the Albums (I don't see a way to upload videos??) or hosting our own image server. I am not sure if the use of Albums is limited or not or if it can be.

Our concern is what you are just discussing, members vs non-members. If we host our own image server we can add videos and also control this to be a members only access site, however we would need to create a from end interface to allow uploading and managing of images.

Our main concern is the continuity of the images as we have holes in threads now so we would like to be able to store, backup and preserve them.

Stay tuned as we would like to provide the "solution"

Thank you Sir.......appreciate the posting......sounds like you guys are on top of it :thumbsup::handshak:

Cliff

[G-Sting]

Using our Registry Albums.......first is 800 pixels wide....second is 400 pixels wide....third is 200 pixel wide.......Nice Photo.....I am assuming you do not mind me experimenting with your photo :thumbsup:

No problem at all, Dynomite. I get a kick out of it -- that a 100 year old aircraft would make it into an experiment on this forum. lol. A bit of interesting history... (...or maybe read if a person has trouble sleeping at night :mrgreen: :sleepy1:)...

The Fokker Dr.I (Pronounced DR-1, rhymes with ZR-1:dancing) was Anthony Fokker's first "triplane" and was first flown by Baron Manfred von Richthofen (a.k.a, the Red Baron) in 1917. Richthofen would get his last 19 (of 80) victories in this highly maneuverable aircraft. The last 5 victories would be against the Sopwith "Camel." The Sopwith Camel is the British aircraft we see Snoopy flying and still dogfighting with the Red Baron.

Since you are involved in farming (nice combine and truck pic!), it might be noted that the Dr-I aircraft's wings were made of linen fabric -- from the flax plant (coated with a dope/glue to make it stiff). The 9 cylinder rotary engine was primarily lubricated with castor oil -- from the castor oil plant!

For some reason no one is talking registry albums and if they are now at 400 photos would cover most photo usage on the Forum. I would pay in subscription more for more photos.......say 1,500photos would suit me just fine. It just crossed my mind.....maybe you have to be a paying member to have Albums I would guess but the annual dues for Registry membership are reasonable.

You can now insert 10 images in each post (a very recent upgrade here on Registry). I have 10 images in this post including smilies.

As an aside.....storing my photos here in Albums even if Registry goes up in flames......I only use the photos on the Registry (I have experimented between Forums a bit) so Lost Albums are no loss since the usage is also lost if you get my drift.

I would also pay for Life Membership on Registry as I am Life Member on CF.....but no takers.

I am talking Albums on the Forums Simply because it is so easy to use and would be so easy to increase and pay for upgrades in photo quantity. I am trying to find capacity of CF Albums at the moment which are even easier to size photos as you post.

You can store 400 photos in your Albums on Registry.
I should not say it....but this is 3rd Party Hosting capable :D

The TRICK is after you have selected 800 or 400 pixels or 200 pixel using Paint....and after you have uploaded to Registry Albums.....you then click on that photo in your Albums (either 800 pixel I call L or 400 pixel I call M) and hit copy....then paste in post using the insert image above (in edit mode) OR.....just place url link between and in edit mode...or copy and paste BB Code :handshak:

I have tried the Registry Albums, but find that the pics end up being dull -- possibly due to the low pixel numbers (?). I'll keep experimenting, though, as you suggest!

:cheers:

BTW, where are the teenagers/twenty-somethings (when you need them) who'd be able to help us solve these computer problems instantly? lol. :-D

[lfalzarano]

We need a professional cloud service that can be easily accessed by mobile devices and stand Browsers.

E.g. http://cloudinary.com/


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[Gunny]

I'm enjoying this thread ... some observations

Many (most?) of the photo hosts are changing their TOA, i.e. no longer free plus no longer able to link photos to another site such as our forum
Some photo hosts that offer free or reduced prices (Amazon et al) don't allow linking to other sites
One solution, self hosting, is most suitable for power users with very large photo collections but perhaps not a good solution for casual users.
Another solution is the ZR-1 albums. I'm not clear whether these are Registry Albums or Forum Albums. If Registry Albums I would think only Registry members would have storage space. If Forum Albums I assume that anyone who is registered has storage space for 400 photos.

As I understand it the Forum is paid for by the Registry (i.e. dues paying members) and is provided/maintained for the benefit of the ZR-1 community, a good thing for all. A ZR-1 owner/enthusiast may join the forum without charge and enjoys most of the benefits of the forum that are essentially paid for by the dues paying members.

Would it be possible (or even a good idea) for dues paying forum members to continue to have storage space of 400 or more photos but limit non paying forum members to storage space of 5 photos? This might be an encouragement for non-members to realize the benefits of becoming full members of the Registry.

Just a few thoughts with no desire to step on any toes ... but it's obvious that we need a good, workable solution for photo storage. As mentioned earlier one of the benefits about storing photos on the forum's space is that these photos will be maintained/archived for as long as the forums are working - this is important, especially for those photos that tell a story of an event, a maintenance project, and on & on. Those of us who self host have to be aware that if we change the structure of our own websites that involves URL (address) changes, then we break the link to our own photos requiring us to go back to all earlier forum posts and "fix" the links. Been there, done that - more than once.

This is a really productive discussion even though it's taken some interesting twists & turns.

[Dynomite]

We (The Board of the Registry) are looking at our options of using the Albums (I don't see a way to upload videos??) or hosting our own image server. I am not sure if the use of Albums is limited or not or if it can be.

Stay tuned as we would like to provide the "solution"

The use of Albums here on this Forum is limited to 400 photos (I was thinking for ALL Albums associated with your ID but it appears for EACH Album associated with your ID??).....I think there is no limit on the number of Albums but am not sure. When I upload a photo into any one Album the Total photo space Available plus photos I have loaded equals 400 for any one Album???

Each post is limited to 30,000 characters and 10 images including smilies.

Can I assume Albums on this Registry will allow at least 400 photos TOTAL for ALL Albums (for paying members) in the future?

I prefer to use Albums on the Forums for Simplicity. The obvious reason for using Forum Albums is Albums on the Forums will (I think) exist as long as the Forums? 400 photos is really a lot of photos......400 photos for each Album is not believable (number of Albums must then have a LIMIT)? :thumbsup:

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=402&pictureid=3275

The BIG Trick for Photo Album Use on the Registry is.....


ALERT
http://www.f-lohmueller.de/pov_tut/animate/im/Bike_Chain_35tt.gif

The BIG Trick for Photo Album Use on the Registry is.....


After you have selected 800 or 400 or other pixels using Paint (or other photo pixel resize software) on your computer and applied to any photo on your computer....and after you have uploaded that photo to your Registry Album of Albums.

Once the photo is in your Registry Album (resized by PAINT on your computer) you go to that Album and LEFT Click on the photo....It will then appear the size you PAINTED. You then select and copy the BB Code. Then Paste the BB Code into a post.

Another way is to LEFT Click on the photo and Select Copy. Left Click on Insert Image in the Post Heading and Paste the Copy in the Insert Image Box. Click on OK and the image will be Inserted where your curser was set before you selected Insert Image.

[QB93Z]

I have begun the process of moving the location of all the images I have on the Forum to my own website server. I have over 3000 Forum images currently hosted by PhotoBucket. This will take a long time to do because it requires getting the original image from my home computers, resizing every image, and loading them to my website server. After a batch is on the server, I can edit each post of mine that has photos.


Here is a sample of the size I chose. How does it look on your screen?


http://www.gizmosart.com/webimages/corvette/sw and sd/dsc_0078.jpg




Jim

[Dynomite]

Here is a sample of the size I chose. How does it look on your screen?

http://www.gizmosart.com/webimages/corvette/sw and sd/dsc_0078.jpg

Jim

Your photo is perfect and identical to U2 SLOW :thumbsup:

On my Cell Phone the photo shows up just a bit smaller than my U2 SLOW which is 800 pixels.

How does U2 SLOW show up on screens? I am using Registry Albums.

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=375&pictureid=3200

[QB93Z]

I see my image (RT66) in the quote you made of my post, which is weird if you see an "X".


Your U2 SLOW and my RT66 images are the same width on my screen.


Can you get any link info from the "X" symbol?


Jim

[WVZR-1]

I have begun the process of moving the location of all the images I have on the Forum to my own website server. I have over 3000 Forum images currently hosted by PhotoBucket. This will take a long time to do because it requires getting the original image from my home computers, resizing every image, and loading them to my website server. After a batch is on the server, I can edit each post of mine that has photos.


Here is a sample of the size I chose. How does it look on your screen?


http://www.gizmosart.com/webimages/corvette/sw and sd/dsc_0078.jpg




Jim


I had your snapshot just as you posted unless you've done something in the past couple minutes. I've avoided the thread for obvious reasons.

[QB93Z]

You asked about resizing. Right now I am using a photo editor called PaintShop Pro because I am very familiar with it. Going forward I will be investigating the JAlbum software that George (Gunny) recommended to do the resizing or writing a script for PSP to do batch resizing.


I have my FTP program set to force lowercase characters on transfer because I have had problems with uppercase on my website.


It just now dawned on me that when I am editing a post using "insert image" to replace the hosted image, I do not need to save the image on my server because it is uploaded to the ZR-1 Net Registry's server. Do you agree?




EDIT: I just checked again and the images I have posted are just links to a host site (mine) so I will have to keep the image on my server.



Jim

[Dynomite]

You asked about resizing. Right now I am using a photo editor called PaintShop Pro because I am very familiar with it. Going forward I will be investigating the JAlbum software that George (Gunny) recommended to do the resizing or writing a script for PSP to do batch resizing.


I have my FTP program set to force lowercase characters on transfer because I have had problems with uppercase on my website.


It just now dawned on me that when I am editing a post using "insert image" to replace the hosted image, I do not need to save the image on my server because it is uploaded to the ZR-1 Net Registry's server. Do you agree?


EDIT: I just checked again and the images I have posted are just links to a host site (mine) so I will have to keep the image on my server.

Jim

You kind of lost me.....I do not use Insert Image.....I just copy and paste URL and place and on the ends ;)

Again.....yes....the .jpg has to be small letters...not CAPS I am guessing.

This is all very interesting and I am thinking we are getting close but as you say......replacing each photo in each post will take some time even using two or three computers (I use an IPad and a Laptop side by side) to view and select the correct photos after downloading ALL photos from the original posts (with Photobucket photos) to your web site or in my case to Albums which are sorted/labeled by Thread Page or Thread.

You and I have some time before those Photobucket photos in various post disappear (Dec 31, 2018) so lots of time and relatively easy to drag those Photobucket photos from posts into our Laptop Albums and then into Albums on the Registry by same name....in your case into albums of same name on your Web site.

Also.....on the Registry Albums....I do not know size of photos I have painted so when I paint I use S, M, or L after photo which tells me size of photo in my Registry Album. On my Laptop in Albums of same name I have photos showing the S, M, or L on each photo just in case I want to use two or three sizes in different posts (800 pixels, 400 pixels, 200 pixels).

[Gunny]

You asked about resizing. Right now I am using a photo editor called PaintShop Pro because I am very familiar with it. Going forward I will be investigating the JAlbum software that George (Gunny) recommended to do the resizing or writing a script for PSP to do batch resizing.


I have my FTP program set to force lowercase characters on transfer because I have had problems with uppercase on my website.


It just now dawned on me that when I am editing a post using "insert image" to replace the hosted image, I do not need to save the image on my server because it is uploaded to the ZR-1 Net Registry's server. Do you agree?




EDIT: I just checked again and the images I have posted are just links to a host site (mine) so I will have to keep the image on my server.



Jim

Your size (800px wide) is good. That displays nicely on my laptop and should be acceptable on my 25" desktop monitor. Haven't checked it on my Android but if the Z forum is set up for responsive then it should auto resize to my phone, again making it OK. 800px would be my recommendation for photos for the forum.

Earlier I made reference to my using a larger size for images on my personal website, usually 2400px wide (or greater) but I've also been "updating" all my pages to be as responsive as I can make them at this time so that images will "theoretically" fill the display, regardless of the display's size. Anyone visiting my website with a 4K display will see a huge image and visitors using a smartphone will see the complete image downsized to their screen. Not a perfect solution but works for now.

I'm a fan of PhotoShop but don't need all the bells & whistles of the pro version so I use PhotoShop Elements that can usually be found on sale for less than $50. It has 95% of the features of the Pro version for a lot less money. It's a very good tool for resizing images plus it can do so many other things as well such as optimizing images for the web. Images created/edited using any of the PhotoShop products are generally fully compatible, unlike some of the other image editing programs. Highly recommended.

I also recommend that you look at Gimp, a free, open-source image editing program available for Mac or PC. If I didn't have PS Elements I would likely use Gimp - it's worth a look.

And since I mainly use jAlbum as the engine to generate my photo webpages I can also recommend it, especially with the No Pages skin. It's basically free but worth the shareware fee to avoid advertising, especially if you use it a lot. jAlbum also has limited free storage space for your webpages. Sounds like a good option but since I don't use it I can't comment how well it does for 3rd party linking.

Also worth mentioning is MS Paint that many like & use. It's been reported that it is being removed from MS Windows in an upcoming update of Windows 10. Microsoft's reply is that it's merely removing it from the integrated OS but that it will be available in the legacy archives. Not sure what this means but sounds like MS is abandoning support for that app.

JPG or jpg? When linking to image files the correct case must be entered (typed) or the image won't display. In most instances it shouldn't make any difference whether you use upper or lower case extensions to your image files ... BUT - there are some servers that do not correctly recognize upper case extensions. So the best answer is to use lower case (.jpg) to be universally safe.

It seems that one valid approach for image storage/linking would be to resize the images, upload to the user album on the forum, and then link to those images in the thread's posts. As always the user (image owner) should keep all images backed up on his home computer (i.e. don't trust the cloud for backups). This way the links should always work as long as the forums are active and on-line. The current quota, 400 images, is likely more than enough for most users but exceptions to exceed the quota can possibly be made on a case by case need. And as I mentioned earlier why not limit the quota to 5-10 images for forum users who are NOT paying members of the Registry.

When I can find the time I may start the process of finding all of the images that I've linked to, edit them to the optimum size, upload them to my forum album, and then editing the links to the new location, basically "future proofing" those photos should anything happen to my websites.

Last item - downloading photobucket images. I remember reading about a method to batch download all PB images in one operation. Don't know the details but might be worth googling in order to avoid downloading one image at a time.

[QB93Z]

Cliff and George - Thanks for the info. I am still experimenting with this.


Jim

[QB93Z]

Test of link:


http://www.gizmosart.com/webimages/corvette/swand sd/dsc_0010.jpg



ht tp://www.gizmosart.com/webimages/corvette/sw and sd/dsc_0010.jpg

Pasting the link directly isn't working for me.


EDIT: Trying again:



http://www.gizmosart.com/webimages/corvette/sw and sd/dsc_0010.jpg


I found the problem, The [IMG] requires Capital Letters.

Jim

[WVZR-1]

Test of link:


http://www.gizmosart.com/webimages/corvette/swand sd/dsc_0010.jpg



ht tp://www.gizmosart.com/webimages/corvette/sw and sd/dsc_0010.jpg

Pasting the link directly isn't working for me.


EDIT: Trying again:



http://www.gizmosart.com/webimages/corvette/sw and sd/dsc_0010.jpg


I found the problem, The [IMG] requires Capital Letters.

Jim

I don't know about that - the X image link seems to have errors. It looks like there's a "space" in the h ttp and also a "space" in sw and. You might like to try that one again using .......

Here's me doing it - I didn't SIZE it but I did use ...
http://www.gizmosart.com/webimages/corvette/sw and sd/dsc_0010.jpg

[USAF Retired]

Another tragedy to Photobucket is now any old thread on this forum (or any forum), all images are gone forever. For example one of the many "How-To" threads are now pretty much useless ........... What a shame!

[QB93Z]

I don't know about that - the X image link seems to have errors. It looks like there's a "space" in the h ttp and also a "space" in sw and. You might like to try that one again using .......

Here's me doing it - I didn't SIZE it but I did use ...




Dave, the space in the ...//ht tp:... is to allow showing the link text. If you take out the space, the line becomes a link and I can't display it for others to see.


The spaces in "/sw and sd/" seem to work OK because I have used that style of sub-directory name for several old threads that I have converted already.


Your comment about the [IMG] tags is interesting because it is the only thing I changed to make the image display properly.


I will continue to investigate.


Jim

[Dynomite]

Dave, the space in the ...//ht tp:... is to allow showing the link text. If you take out the space, the line becomes a link and I can't display it for others to see.


The spaces in "/sw and sd/" seem to work OK because I have used that style of sub-directory name for several old threads that I have converted already.


Your comment about the [IMG] tags is interesting because it is the only thing I changed to make the image display properly.


I will continue to investigate.


Jim

I do not know what is going on.....your photos on this page (several posts) are "X"s again.......

Are my photos below "X"s?

Your size (800px wide) is good. That displays nicely on my laptop and should be acceptable on my 25" desktop monitor. Haven't checked it on my Android but if the Z forum is set up for responsive then it should auto resize to my phone, again making it OK. 800px would be my recommendation for photos for the forum.

It seems that one valid approach for image storage/linking would be to resize the images, upload to the user album on the forum, and then link to those images in the thread's posts. As always the user (image owner) should keep all images backed up on his home computer (i.e. don't trust the cloud for backups). This way the links should always work as long as the forums are active and on-line. The current quota, 400 images, is likely more than enough for most users but exceptions to exceed the quota can possibly be made on a case by case need. And as I mentioned earlier why not limit the quota to 5-10 images for forum users who are NOT paying members of the Registry.

When I can find the time I may start the process of finding all of the images that I've linked to, edit them to the optimum size, upload them to my forum album, and then editing the links to the new location, basically "future proofing" those photos should anything happen to my websites.

Last item - downloading photobucket images. I remember reading about a method to batch download all PB images in one operation. Don't know the details but might be worth googling in order to avoid downloading one image at a time.

George.......

I concur on pixels.....I use 400 pixels side by side often......as well as 800 pixel :handshak:

Yes.....As I explained to Jim in a message....I have decided on Forum Albums simply because the Albums should be around as long as the Forum :cheers:

Lastly.........for us that have Plus Photobucket...we still can see our photos in posts. It is simple to just download to laptop the photos from Registry posts (not downloading directly from Photobucket) into Albums of the same thread name. That way when I paint size and save in same Album with a S, M, or L tag on the photo indicating size it is easy to keep track what post/thread the photo was copied from on the Forum.

I then go to my Albums on the Forum....click on an Album.....Click "Upload Pictures"......Click Browse and find my Album on Laptop....and upload the photo with S, M, or L into Album of the same name as Album on my Laptop.

You can check my Albums on the Forum to see what I am up to :D

And yes.......this is a bit of work and we shall see how this progresses. I am going through Solutions and finding my hand full of Links to my posts on this Forum and replacing Photobucket Photos with Registry Album Photos.....as you can tell by taking a look at my Albums on this Forum.

Just to be clear.......there has always been some photos in "how to" posts that disappear for a multitude of reasons. This Last Photobucket issue is a bit bigger but again....not everyone is using Photobucket.

So.....really nothing new regarding Photo Maintenance on the Forums......just a bit worse than normal.

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=211&pictureid=3188
http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=211&pictureid=3189http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=211&pictureid=3189

[Dynomite]

Something is going on with Photobucket Plus Accounts. Photos are now showing up as "attached" (apparently on CF only) and cannot edit to see URL ???????

This could be an issue with CF only as it does not appear to be an issue on the Registry??

[Gunny]

you might want to download all your PB images ASAP. google for the batch method ... unless you already have everything backed up on your computer(s). I would be curious to know if PB "alters" your images in any way - i.e. resize them, strip the EXiF info, etc.

[Dynomite]

you might want to download all your PB images ASAP. google for the batch method ... unless you already have everything backed up on your computer(s). I would be curious to know if PB "alters" your images in any way - i.e. resize them, strip the EXiF info, etc.

I have everything backed up in a couple places.

Jim and I are experimenting but thought I best mention this last issue but now it seems it is associated with CF ONLY so might be a CF Issue :p

Was suggested it was my laptop issue which had to be "Refreshed" which I am now doing....but since not an issue with the Registry....seems a CF issue at the moment. Have not ruled out PB/CF issue :p

Am switching to the use of Forum Albums since I only use PB for ZR-1 related photos :cheers:

[Ccmano]

After this mega screwup on the part of PB management my bet is they go out of business within a year. If nothing else the new CEO that caused this debacle show be fired immediately!
H

[USAF Retired]

After this mega screw up on the part of PB management my bet is they go out of business within a year. If nothing else the new CEO that caused this debacle show be fired immediately!
H

Agree. The huge problem is now all images are gone from HOW TO threads. This makes most forum data obsolete .... terrible.

[GOLDCYLON]

After this mega screwup on the part of PB management my bet is they go out of business within a year. If nothing else the new CEO that caused this debacle show be fired immediately!
H

And don't let the door hit em in the arse :neutral:

[Ccmano]

Agree. The huge problem is now all images are gone from HOW TO threads. This makes most forum data obsolete .... terrible.

And to prevent that from happening again we should do our own hosting. Once set up, we can reach out to the folks who posted the now defunct pictures (assuming they are still around) and try to reconstruct as many as possible. Not a simple task.
H
:cheers:

[USAF Retired]

And to prevent that from happening again we should do our own hosting. Once set up, we can reach out to the folks who posted the now defunct pictures (assuming they are still around) and try to reconstruct as many as possible. Not a simple task.

Agree. How can I contact the owner of this website/forum? Who is the owner? We should all chip in and help ....

[QB93Z]

Agree. How can I contact the owner of this website/forum? Who is the owner? We should all chip in and help ....



This Forum is owned and administered by the ZR-1 Net Registry. Please visit our website to learn more about the Registry:


http://www.zr1netregistry.com/


Jim

[USAF Retired]

This Forum is owned and administered by the ZR-1 Net Registry. Please visit our website to learn more about the Registry:

http://www.zr1netregistry.com/

Jim

I am asking who owns the Registry and or this Forum? Is this not public information? If the owner of ZR1 Registry owns this forum then who owns the ZR1 Registry?

[Dynomite]

I am asking who owns the Registry and or this Forum? Is this not public information? If the owner of ZR1 Registry owns this forum then who owns the ZR1 Registry?

I think the Forum/Registry is owned by us (Paying Members)........non profit with board members who are elected by us.....but what do I know ;)

Agree. The huge problem is now all images are gone from HOW TO threads. This makes most forum data obsolete .... terrible.

Anyway....back to Photobucket issues......

I have a plan :p
http://www.f-lohmueller.de/pov_tut/animate/im/Bike_Chain_35tt.gif

Except for Jim and myself......no one is talking much about the obvious and Daryl I am not sure about what his "plan" is (or how many photos Daryl Has involved)???

I have observed photos being lost from threads off and on before the Photobucket issue. Some just deleted the photobucket photos or moved them. Many do not use Photobucket in the first place as a place to host photos.

Many use attachments.....many do not post photos because it is a bit complex. Many do not take the time to take a photo in the first place.

So....I would say your "terrible" is more like "normal" than "terrible" and actually may get some to post more photos as they learn how easy it really is. There are tricks going from Cell Phone to Laptop or directly to Forum with photos but for many they are able to post photos.

Some of us have a large quantity of photos and for myself.....I HAVE A PLAN.....so not so "terrible" after all....and we need new updated photos once in a while anyway :thumbsup:

It is not as bad as it seems :p

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=390&pictureid=3245

[5ABI VT]

I'm surprised there aren't sites looking to host and take photobuckets business for a more reasonable fee. For a very long time I've used Photobucket and it was so incredibly easy (on my phone click upload, then a second later tap the [img] link and paste it- done), so easy that now that they've made a mess of things I'm completely lost ! Really hoping another site steps up soon !

[Dynomite]

I'm surprised there aren't sites looking to host and take photobuckets business for a more reasonable fee. For a very long time I've used Photobucket and it was so incredibly easy (on my phone click upload, then a second later tap the [img] link and paste it- done), so easy that now that they've made a mess of things I'm completely lost ! Really hoping another site steps up soon !

Left Click
Ten Best Photo Storage and Sharing Sites (https://www.tomsguide.com/us/pictures-story/839-best-photography-sites.html)

Photobucket is mentioned....I guess before the latest Photobucket Issues/changes in subscriptions :p

My PLAN is a bit different since I only use Photobucket for Corvette Photos.....
If you have other Family type Photos or other Hobbies using Photos.....then Using Forum Albums is not a good PLAN.

[conesare2seconds]

To Dynomite: you have my attention.

[QB93Z]

I just resized some pictures from a previous road trip. I used Microsoft Office Picture Manager. Then I uploaded the pictures to my Forum Albums.


Here are the pictures:


http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=407&pictureid=3334




http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=407&pictureid=3333


By having two web browser pages open at the same time it is very easy to get the link for the picture and then shift the browser page and paste the link:


http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=407&pictureid=3332


http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=407&pictureid=3330


http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=407&pictureid=3329


Jim

[QB93Z]

I think that this is the best combination of tools to post pictures on the Forum that I have found.


Here is the procedure for how I did it:


1. I created a new directory on the C-Drive of my computer called "Image Resize Folder"

2. From whatever my picture source is, copy the pictures you want to use in a post and paste them in the "Image Resize Folder"

3. Open Microsoft Office Picture Manager.

4. On the left of the screen, use the "Add Picture Shortcuts" menu to locate the "Image Resize Folder" that contains the selected pictures.

5. On the right side of the screen select Edit pictures from the dropdown menu.

6. Shift click to select all of your pictures that are horizontal. Then click on "Resize".

7. Select "Custom width and height:" and enter "800" in the width block.
(If you have tall pictures, repeat 6 and 7 with 800 in the height block.)

8. Click "OK" to start the resize.

9. Click "File/Save All" to save the resized images replacing the larges size pictures in the "Image Resizer Folder"

10. Open Forum and select "User CP" and select "Pictures & Albums"

11. If desired, add an album, then select the album you will upload to.

12a. Select "Upload Pictures" and use the browser to find the "Image Resize Folder" and select each of your pictures. Then click "Upload Pictures"

12b. After uploading the pictures, I delete the image files from the "Image Resize Folder" because they are not needed again and it makes the next group of pictures easier to work on.

13. After the upload there is a page that allows you to put captions and names on the pictures, but it is not required.

14. Now to create a Post with your Pictures, open two browser windows: one for the post editor and one for the Album pictures and links

15. From the Album containing your new pictures, select one picture. You will then see a large view of the picture and two boxes with links. Select the link labeled BB Code and copy the line of code.

16. On the Post editor page, enter the text and then paste the BB Code link for the picture.


http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=407&pictureid=3337
http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=407&pictureid=3336


Isn't that simple?


Edit: I resized the screen capture picture.



Jim

[QB93Z]

The procedure above seems complex and I guess it is until you use it a few times (just like pulling a Plenum), but it is the simplest I have developed so far.


I hope that a few people will try posting this way and let me know if it works for you.


I believe that a lot of members have Microsoft Office. If not, I can recommend some other image resize programs. The best feature of MS Picture Manager is the ability to resize a batch of pictures with the minimum number of clicks and screen changes.


The "Image Resizer Folder" I use makes finding and manipulating the picture files straight forward and protects the "originals" of my pictures.


It would be nice to find another single program or tool that combines the resize, upload, store and create link functions which is what PhotoBucket did. I haven't found that program yet, but I am still looking. In the meantime this is my Plan.


Jim

[Dynomite]

The procedure above seems complex and I guess it is until you use it a few times (just like pulling a Plenum), but it is the simplest I have developed so far.

I hope that a few people will try posting this way and let me know if it works for you.

Jim

Step 15 is the most important and as you suggest there are many ways to resize the photos on your computer.

My Step 15 goes like this and I have posted it on top of first page of Solutions. I would suggest you take your "How To post photos using Registry Forum Albums" and make it a sticky as you like :thumbsup:

ALERT
http://www.f-lohmueller.de/pov_tut/animate/im/Bike_Chain_35tt.gif

The BIG Trick for Photo Album Use on the Registry is.....


After you have selected 800 or 400 or other pixels using Paint (or other photo pixel resize software) on your computer and applied to any photo on your computer....and after you have uploaded that photo to your Registry Album of Albums.

Once the photo is in your Registry Album (resized by PAINT on your computer) you go to that Album and LEFT Click on the photo....It will then appear the size you PAINTED. You then select and copy the BB Code. Then Paste the BB Code into a post.

Another way is to LEFT Click on the photo and Select Copy. Left Click on Insert Image in the Post Heading and Paste the Copy in the Insert Image Box. Click on OK and the image will be Inserted where your curser was set before you selected Insert Image.

[ssrszz4]

Hmm

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[QB93Z]

Step 15 is the most important and as you suggest there are many ways to resize the photos on your computer.

My Step 15 goes like this and I have posted it on top of first page of Solutions. I would suggest you take your "How To post photos using Registry Forum Albums" and make it a sticky as you like :thumbsup:




The BIG Trick for Photo Album Use on the Registry is.....


After you have selected 800 or 400 or other pixels using Paint (or other photo pixel resize software) on your computer and applied to any photo on your computer....and after you have uploaded that photo to your Registry Album of Albums.

Once the photo is in your Registry Album (resized by PAINT on your computer) you go to that Album and LEFT Click on the photo....It will then appear the size you PAINTED. You then select and copy the BB Code or RIGHT Click on that photo and Select Copy. Then Paste the BB Code into a post or use INSERT IMAGE and Paste what you copied into a post in Edit Mode. OR.....just place what you copied between and in Post edit mode.



Cliff, I have trouble following along with your procedure. Can you break it down to simple steps without the "OR" options?


Thanks,


Jim

[Dynomite]

ALERT
http://www.f-lohmueller.de/pov_tut/animate/im/Bike_Chain_35tt.gif

The BIG Trick for Photo Album Use on the Registry is.....


After you have selected 800 or 400 or other pixels using Paint (or other photo pixel resize software) on your computer and applied to any photo on your computer....and after you have uploaded that photo to your Registry Album of Albums.

Once the photo is in your Registry Album (resized by PAINT on your computer) you go to that Album and LEFT Click on the photo....It will then appear the size you PAINTED. You then select and copy the BB Code. Then Paste the BB Code into a post.

Another way is to LEFT Click on the photo......It will then appear the size you PAINTED. You then right Click and Select Copy. Left Click on Insert Image in the Post Heading and Paste the Copy in the Insert Image Box. Click on OK and the image will be Inserted where your curser was set before you selected Insert Image.

[QB93Z]

QB at the line:


http://zr1.net/forum/picture.php?pictureid=4&albumid=8&dl=1255891926&thumb=1


Cliff, When I use the second method you detailed, I get an image of the preview, not the image itself:



http://zr1.net/forum/picture.php?pictureid=3363&albumid=404&dl=1502408050&thumb=1





Here is that image using your first method:


http://zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=404&pictureid=3363

[Dynomite]

Another way is to LEFT Click on the photo......It will then appear the size you PAINTED. You then right Click and Select Copy. Left Click on Insert Image in the Post Heading and Paste the Copy in the Insert Image Box. Click on OK and the image will be Inserted where your curser was set before you selected Insert Image.

[QB93Z]

Cliff,


I see what I did was miss the step that opens the "single photo" screen. Thanks for your help.


Jim

[XfireZ51]

Has anyone addressed the issue of videos?

[Dynomite]

Has anyone addressed the issue of videos?

Many used Videos hosted by Photobucket.....which are now also lost.

Jim and I are thinking we need a video just to show how to Resize Photos, Upload those Resized Photos to Registry Albums, and How To Post those Photos into posts.

Registry Albums do not have Video Hosting Capability as far as I know. An Outside Hosting would be required or use Photobucket PLUS 500 Account.

[S.hafsmo]

I still believe it's a mistake to resize everything to as little as 800 pixel width. Screen resolutions are all going up these days, and in a not so distant future the mistake will become very apparent. Lots of details also get lost in such low resolution pictures, and especially in the DIY threads, it's annoying when lacking detail in photos makes it impossible to see the difference between a hose and shadow.

I also believe these cars deserve being depicted with details, and not just a blurry silhouette, which is what 800 pixels width essentially gives you.
800x600 is 0.48 megapixels, and I think quite a bit of time has passed since that was considered adequate picture quality.

This issue would be a lot easier to mend if the forum was of a later version, supporting automatic resizing etc.

[lfalzarano]

The number of pixels had absolutely nothing to do with the display size. It is the amount of data it will take. Your computer, for many of us are OLD. Buy a new one. Your display can't accommodate the higher number of pixels to fill the screen. That's the reason.


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[S.hafsmo]

Dear Sir, I do not wish to offend you, but you should really read the PM I sent you earlier. If the picture has a higher resolution than your screen, and therefore is scaled down to fit, then yes, more pixels would mostly just mean larger file size (unless you zoom in). If the picture is smaller than the screen resolution, it will only cover a part of the screen. Less pixels on picture / higher resolution on screen, would result in the picture covering a smaller part of the screen. Just like the before mentioned 800x600 photo would cover most of your old 1024x768 screen, while merely covering 5th of my nice, new 3840 × 1600 screen.

Much like indicated here, with a 620‑ by 400‑pixel image displayed on monitors of various sizes and resolutions.
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/image-size-resolution/_jcr_content/main-pars/image_2.img.png/im_06.png

[Gunny]

This situation is almost a Catch-22 (for anyone who read the book)

We need/want the ability to host/display larger images, even videos
But a large percentage (over 60%) of web visitors have chosen to surf the web with much smaller devices (i.e. iPhone, Android, etc.) that can't easily accommodate larger images unless the server is running "responsive" software
Large images take up more band width
Not everyone has internet service that easily handles the increased band width needs
The software version used in this Forum is not responsive (does not auto size images)
Updating software costs $$$ plus a good bit of time on someone's part
This Forum is FREE to all ZR-1 owners/enthusiasts but it is PAID for by a much smaller group, the loyal members of the ZR-1 Net Registry.

Hats off to all the VOLUNTEERS who freely give of their time/resources to maintain the Registry as well as provide this wonderful Forum that makes such a difference to ZR-1 owners around the world. <rant off>

[S.hafsmo]

Even the smaller devices are currently increasing screen resolution. The new Galaxy S8 has 2960x1440 pixels, and many brag of 4k cellphones in near future (mostly to allow VR use, I suppose).

The bandwidth might be an issue fore some. People like me for instance, who's currently sharing 0.5 mbit with 120 other offshore workers. But I still don't get annoyed if someone posts a high res photo of a great looking car. Eight 12 mpix photos of a bolt might however be slightly annoying, as well as people quoting photo heavy posts without removing the [ img ] code.

When it comes to upgrading the forum version (which probably should be done before this 2007 version looses support?), I don't believe the issue is neither cost or effort, but the fact that half the forum users would probably leave if the layout changed. People don't deal with change very well.
For quite a few years I've been a moderator on a 50k user BMW forum in Norway, and upgrading the vBulletin version seemed to be an absolute disaster among many of the users. Lots of smaller forums were created in protest and many users disappeared (for a while). It's all back to normal now, but I'm not sure how a small forum as this would cope with such changes. Maybe one can find a layout similar to the old.

I am not demanding anything here, just suggesting. And with regards to pic size, I'm hoping people at least won't go below 1024 pixel width.

[S.hafsmo]

I believe you've misunderstood. Physical screen size is not relevant at all in this matter, only screen resolution, and surely there are still screens out there using low resolution screens (and places like Best Buy would have lots of them).

Many of the shelf laptops with high res screens have the windows scaling feature enabled, which would allow you photo to appear "normal". Basically a zoom function (see att.)

The computer I am using at work now, is a completely ordinary 23" full HD (1080p / 1920x1080) screen, and your photo above covers approx. 40% of the screen width.

As I mentioned before however, I'm only sharing some thoughts. If you wish to use 800x600, feel free to do so. :)

[S.hafsmo]

And I'm sure nobody will mind. It'll take a while before high-res is standard. :)

[Dynomite]

There is a lot to be said about your Laptop or Desk Top screen size, screen resolution, and Text/App Size when viewing photos in Forum Posts. How the Forum Post photos appear on other screens was a mystery to me until I visited Best Buy today (Aug 13, 2017). Also checked how the Forum Post photos appear on very large flat screen. :thumbsup:

No longer a mystery how this 800 pixel wide photo appears on the latest and greatest laptop screens or a desktop Wide Flat Screen. Went to Best Buy and then loaded the ZR1- Net Registry Forum and this photo on ten or more different NEW Laptops/Desk Top Computers on Display.....

My Laptop (relatively older Laptop) screen Resolution is 1366x768.

ON ALL THOSE NEW Laptops tested (At Best Buy) as well as the New Desktop Wide Screen (at Best Buy) the Screen Resolution can be adjusted as well as Text, app Size......as S.hafsmo suggested.

This Photo appeared identical in terms of percentage of screen width (about 3/4 screen width) and PERFECT High Quality with the proper combination of Screen Resolution and Text/App Size %. That includes the DeskTop Wide Flat Screen in which this photo appeared with complete perfect Quality with ALL Details showing with the proper Selection of Resolution and Text/App Size %

I tested New Laptops with Resolutions/Text Sizes as Follows Using this Registry Photo shown here sized to 800 Pixels as Posted.

1289x768 100%
1289x768 125%
1856x1392 150%
1856x1392 200%
1920x1080 100% Desk Top Large Flat Screen
1920x1080 150% Desk Top Large Flat Screen
2256x1504 150%
2256x1504 200%
3000x2000 200%
3000x2000 300%

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=375&pictureid=3200

My Best Buy Experiment today leads me to believe 800 pixel wide photos is perfect for ALL Laptops and Desktops with Wider Flat Screens simply because Screen Resolution and Text/App Size is Adjustable on the New Computers. :p

Anyone can repeat this experiment at Best Buy. On any Laptop on Display, just go to where you place a web address on the screen and erase the current Microsoft link and type ZR1 Registry Forum and select the Forum and then go this thread and this post as you like. You can test as many Laptop, Ipads, Desk Tops as you like :p

Go to Laptop Settings and select Display and check the Resolution and Text Size % which you can adjust for optimum on screen Display of this 800 Pixel Photo no matter what Screen Resolution you select. You adjust the Display Resolution and Text/App size by going to Settings and then Display (Click on the Windows 10 symbol bottom left corner of screen).

Thanks to S.hafsmo for hanging in there educating me on what is available regarding High Definition Laptop and Desktop Screens and the adjustability of those screens.

[Dynomite]

Screen Shots of the same 800 pixel photo on Laptop and Desktop screens of different Resolutions and Text/App Sizes.


1289x768 100%

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=409&pictureid=3396

1289x768 125%

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=409&pictureid=3395

1856x1392 150%

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=409&pictureid=3393

1856x1392 200%

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=409&pictureid=3394

1920x1080 100% Desk Top Large Flat Screen

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=409&pictureid=3400

1920x1080 150% Desk Top Large Flat Screen

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=409&pictureid=3402

2256x1504 150%

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=409&pictureid=3392

2256x1504 200%

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=409&pictureid=3391

3000x2000 200%

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=409&pictureid=3397

3000x2000 300%

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=409&pictureid=3399

[S.hafsmo]

Please keep in mind that the purpose of buying high-res screens, is to increase detail. Scaling low quality photos defies the whole point of the purchase. If however you are satisfied with the quality already being posted, no worries.

[Dynomite]

Please keep in mind that the purpose of buying high-res screens, is to increase detail. Scaling low quality photos defies the whole point of the purchase. If however you are satisfied with the quality already being posted, no worries.

I am scaling photos that seem to be of adequate quality on High-Res screens already purchased for other reasons. Trying to figure out what Resolution and Text/App size to select on those High-Res Screens so these 800 pixel wide photos will appear like they do on my own screen :p

I found that if you go to 150% on your Text/App size using your 1920x1080 screen, the 800 pixel photo will appear about like it does on my own screen which is 1366x768 .....I think....maybe even try 200% ;)

After going through Paint Resizing and then Uploading to Registry Albums and all this after downloading from previously uploaded Photobucket Photos.....it gets complicated.....just trying to figure out what to do about Photobucket issues the easiest way possible :handshak:

http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=409&pictureid=3403

[Dynomite]

I used my free cox email photo store for years when they disabled the service for all users. So I went to Photobucket and 10 years ago it was great. Over the last three years it has been total crap with frames view difficultly loading etc. NOW Photobucket wants me to pay $399 per year to continue to be able to post pictures on "3rd party sites" that's any forum.

If the service was decent I might consider paying for a service however it is not and it is far from decent.

So I am migrating to something else. I need some recommendations folk even a reasonably priced store. too bad I cant host from my iCloud service I already pay for.

I am using Forum Albums (Registry and CF)......for ALL Photos.....and it is great :dancing

It took some work but I figured out some shortcuts and as of today I have converted ALL photos of the LT5 Modifications/Rebuild Tricks Thread (https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c4-zr-1-discussion/3005470-tech-info-lt5-modifications-rebuild-tricks-500-hp.html) :thumbsup:

Also.......It just makes sense to use the Forum where you are posting photos to store photos and it is FREE.

Resizing Photos for Forum Posts and Creating Reference Links (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-zr-1-discussion/3005470-tech-info-lt5-modifications-rebuild-tricks-500-hp-7.html#post1584988203)
Using Forum Photo Albums……Resizing photos (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-zr-1-discussion/3005470-tech-info-lt5-modifications-rebuild-tricks-500-hp-7.html#post1584988206)

From CF Albums
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.corvetteforum.com-vbulletin/800x800-1/80-33cb18fa_1f00_43d3_a267_8a825259d641_23856a95f7584 ea088743ff5c8737fb67d020dfc.jpg

From Registry Albums
http://www.zr1.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=375&pictureid=3200

[lfalzarano]

Nice work!


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[G-Sting]

On a P-51 Mustang forum I'm involved with, someone posted two possible ways to view old photobucket pics. They are two "add-ons" to either Google Chrome or Mazilla Firefox browsers. I use the later browser almost exclusively instead of Safari, etc.

Google Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/photobucket-embed-fix/naolkcpnnlofnnghnmfegnfnflicjjgj?hl=en

Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/photobucket-embedded-fix/?src=ss

Amazingly, it seems to work for me... but maybe others can check if it works for them.

Of course, I'm no longer using photobucket to upload pics (don't plan on getting a paid subscription)... and who knows how long these add-ons will work, but it's nice to see a lot more pics on ours and other forums again.

[A1990]

On a P-51 Mustang forum I'm involved with, someone posted two possible ways to view old photobucket pics. They are two "add-ons" to either Google Chrome or Mazilla Firefox browsers. I use the later browser almost exclusively instead of Safari, etc.

Google Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/photobucket-embed-fix/naolkcpnnlofnnghnmfegnfnflicjjgj?hl=en

Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/photobucket-embedded-fix/?src=ss

Amazingly, it seems to work for me... but maybe others can check if it works for them.

Of course, I'm no longer using photobucket to upload pics (don't plan on getting a paid subscription)... and who knows how long these add-ons will work, but it's nice to see a lot more pics on ours and other forums again.

The Firefox one worked for me

[Ccmano]

Wow.. interesting most pictures are now viewable again. Not all but most. I loaded the Chrome version.

[G-Sting]

Wow.. interesting most pictures are now viewable again. Not all but most. I loaded the Chrome version.

A1990: The Firefox one worked for me

Thanks for checking, gents. It's nice to see pics again, instead of the dreaded PB-no-see box. ...on other forums as well. Kind of an amazing work-around.

I suppose we'll see how long it lasts... but will enjoy it in the meantime!

[WVZR-1]

I use the Vivaldi browser which is a CHROME 'variant' and the extension by "jesse" - it's worked well for quite some time. I believe the one in the link was what I had intermittent success with but 'not always' so I was reluctant to pass it on.

Whichever browser you use searching "photobucket" in the EXTENSION STORE should get you a few.

[Dynomite]

I have begun the process of moving the location of all the images I have on the Forum to my own website server. I have over 3000 Forum images currently hosted by PhotoBucket. This will take a long time to do because it requires getting the original image from my home computers, resizing every image, and loading them to my website server. After a batch is on the server, I can edit each post of mine that has photos.

Here is a sample of the size I chose. How does it look on your screen?

http://www.gizmosart.com/webimages/corvette/sw and sd/dsc_0078.jpg

Jim

Jim.....Did you get it all squared away.....this issue has come up again with Lee's Threads some of which have lots of photos.

Myself.......I have placed some 1500 photos in Registry and Corvette Forum Albums. I am all set using Forum Albums from Now On.
I have still to go through -Solutions- as many of those linked Posts have "Xs" rather than photos. I have not deleted any links not having photos yet as the "fixes" seem to work at least temporarily and some are not realizing this is serious but like you and I are "fixing" the situation ourselves involving our own posts.

Several of the guys are using "fixes" to view Photobucket Photos on the Registry but I am not sure how long the "fixes" will function.

Also.....this issue of loosing photos is not so unusual as some posts have lost their photos simply because the Post author has deleted Photobucket. There are other reasons for loosing photos in posts also.

I have decided using Forum Albums is the most secure way to address the Photobucket issue since the Photos in Forum Albums should be around as long as the Forums.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.corvetteforum.com-vbulletin/800x600-1/80-1_d5645f48839903455ab41dd0397f08232b586450.jpg

I copied my threads (Before Photobucket messed with us) having lots of photos to my laptop which seems to work great. I can at least identify the photos in each Post when Photobucket DID/does their tricks with the "Xs" or more recently on CF the Photobucket photos showed up as ATTACHnumberATTACH but no photo.

Which ATTACHnumberATTACH Trick leads me to believe Photobucket is not done with "TRICKS" which "fixes" may not keep up with. I was a Paying Member on Photobucket with Paid For Extra Storage which Photobucket gave us to the End of 2018 I think. This is aside from the more recent Photobucket concept of using ATTACHnumberATTACH with no Photo on CF which took more time to identify the photo using Forum Albums as my fix. Lucky I had ALL Threads Copied to my Laptop with the correct photos.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.corvetteforum.com-vbulletin/800x600-1/80-3_c09ecbf66fb82968763a9da3e00de7ccd8511002.jpg