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Jagdpanzer
06-14-2017, 04:08 PM
Took the Z out on Saturday morning and the front driver side speaker began making horrible hissing and popping noise. Then came the death smell stench of fried electronic components. Pull the speaker out this afternoon and here's what I found:
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First time I've had this happen.
Has anyone else seen this?



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XfireZ51
06-14-2017, 04:57 PM
Phil,

Fortunately, this could have been worse. I think the ZR is speaking to you and suggesting perhaps a Pioneer appradio 4.

Jagdpanzer
06-14-2017, 06:06 PM
Dom,
I'm thinking the same thing.
The power supply circuit for the Bose amplifiers is protected by a 20 amp fuse (#37). Checked and it's still good. Hard to believe it didn't blow after seeing this damage.
Regardless, next purchase is a good onboard fire extinguisher.

orthodoct
06-14-2017, 06:47 PM
That's a lot of damage to have not blown a 20 amp fuse. Would be interesting to pull that cover/heatsink and see what cooked. That's a lot of gunk to have come from even a couple of electrolytic capacitors. Then again, less than 240 watts wouldn't have blown that fuse (12v x 20amps). Nobody could have bypassed that fuse? Have had three Bose amps fail but they have all lost their "proprietary" IC as their failure mode.


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Jagdpanzer
06-14-2017, 08:59 PM
Removed the metal case:
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Jagdpanzer
06-14-2017, 09:10 PM
Clear to see why they put the amp circuit board in a steel sheet metal case. Otherwise I would have been crying tears of dispare and kicking myself for not having a fire extinguisher onboard.

orthodoct
06-14-2017, 09:19 PM
Wow! I don't know how much you know about electronics. I've had a ham license since I was 15. Looks like it started with a short in that center structure which is a bifilar toroidal transformer with at least two ruptured electrolytic capacitors, fried output transistors. You had a FIRE for a brief period of time. That circuit board is made of an epoxy fiberglass laminate and it takes a hell of a lot of energy to burn one like that. In my experience, a 20 amp fuse would have popped LONG before this kind of damage would have occurred. I would make absolutely sure that fuse wasn't bypassed. That was a CATASTROPHIC failure. Very impressive!! Pull the fuse and see if you still have 12volts on that connector; if so, somebody bypassed that fuse. That board is COOKED!! Thanks for sharing. Hope that helps.
Ty


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Jagdpanzer
06-14-2017, 10:38 PM
After dodging this bullet time to replace the Bose amps and possibly the speakers as well.
I already have Pioneer AVIC-Z130BT head unit installed.
Would like to learn more about the modern alternatives available for the C4 Corvettes these days.

orthodoct
06-14-2017, 10:44 PM
Excellent idea. Please let me know what you find. Didn't mean to sound professorial. The folks on this list are such experts and have helped me with so much, it's nice when I can maybe give something back. You are the one that solved my fuel pump problem for which I am most grateful! Now, if you want to know something about shoulder arthroscopy......


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XfireZ51
06-14-2017, 11:12 PM
Phil,

Gotta say. I used the Pioneer extensively on the MR5 and during The Gathering.
My GF also liked the fact that we could use internet radio.


Here's a review

https://youtu.be/DTgcYd7UEsc

Jagdpanzer
06-15-2017, 09:53 AM
Dom,
What speakers did go with?

XfireZ51
06-15-2017, 10:42 AM
Dom,
What speakers did go with?

The car already had an AVIC when I bought it, so it had Pioneer ~ 4.5" Coax speakers. You could probably go w 5.5" as well.

ssrszz4
06-15-2017, 05:46 PM
I've seen 4 or 5 cars burn up before my very eyes only one was mine a Fiat 124 fuel injection line broke.

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HAWAIIZR-1
06-16-2017, 06:02 AM
Wow! Glad to see your car did not go up in smoke Phil! You and Dom are making me think about upgrading the entire stereo system with new technology. Thanks for sharing.


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dredgeguy
06-16-2017, 08:40 AM
WOW, let this be a lesson for all of us. I am putting a fire extinguisher in my car today!

lfalzarano
06-16-2017, 12:37 PM
I put two in my car. The cabin filled up quickly and thought the engine was on fire. No it was a smoldering front speaker amplifier. Had to rip off the cover (costly to replace) to get to the source...

Eckler's sells a replacement that is guaranteed to keep working...


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nherbst454
01-28-2018, 10:48 PM
When you guys upgraded the head unit (swapped out the old Bose head unit / CDM unit) did you end up keeping the bose amplifiers or go with standard speakers? I am looking at ditching the stock unit since the CD player doesn't work and only a back speaker puts out a little sound.

If you guys ended up bypassing the amps how did you go about getting full power to the speakers?

Thanks for your help!