New ZR1 owner experience.

[Livin' in the 80's]

For all of you that are owners and alike. I have owned many sport bikes in my Life. I can say that I have experienced the hayabusa at over 180 at a snap of a finger. This car is the closest I have driven that reminds me of that. If you haven't drive fast sport bikes, you. Need to at least experience it. The zr1 tonight on the highway blew me away as far as the acceleration. My busa would have blown it away, but this would have eventually kept up. Holy crap is this car fast! WOW


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[Livin' in the 80's]

For all of you that are owners and alike. I have owned many sport bikes in my Life. I can say that I have experienced the hayabusa at over 180 at a snap of a finger. This car is the closest I have driven that reminds me of that. If you haven't drive fast sport bikes, you. Need to at least experience it. The zr1 tonight on the highway blew me away as far as the acceleration. My busa would have blown it away, but this would have eventually kept up. Holy crap is this car fast! WOW


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[rush91]

That's a good looking Beast :proud:


My ZR-1 is the safest I've ever felt in a car at those high of speeds. I'm not a motorcycle guy, but can imagine it's an insane sensation in the triple digits on a bike.... The night I bought mine I had a 2hour interstate cruise back home, and chickened out at 168 - 169 MPH. I agree, the LT5 and the Corvette that is wrapped around it never cease to amaze me.

[Tripler]

Nice ! . I am a bike guy but have not faster than 130 mph on the bike and 150 in a race prepared C4 . Yes the Z is amazing . Incredibly smooth and stable at higher speeds .
Be safe and watch out for smokey . They have lots at there disposal nowadays to catch people just enjoying there beast for a few moments .
;)

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[Vette73]

For all of you that are owners and alike. I have owned many sport bikes in my Life. I can say that I have experienced the hayabusa at over 180 at a snap of a finger. This car is the closest I have driven that reminds me of that. If you haven't drive fast sport bikes, you. Need to at least experience it. The zr1 tonight on the highway blew me away as far as the acceleration. My busa would have blown it away, but this would have eventually kept up. Holy crap is this car fast! WOW


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Your right about sport bikes...Years ago I had a 90 GXSX-R 1100,pipe jet kit etc..Did 170 a few times on that bike....At that speed when you look down for a split second at the speedometer you are traveling a football field in a second..Yes quite a rush.....Over 10,000 RPM ...After unfortunately that bike was stolen after seven years of ownership I picked up the 89 GSX-R 1100 ( White and blue) another torque monster....

That was followed up by a ZX-12 Ninja..At the time my friend had the 03 Busa extended swing arm and pipe........The ninja was fast but that Busa was an animal especially down low....He topped out at 190.....Crazy speeds I never even would attempt at this stage in my life......I gave up riding years ago but like you said, nothing compares to the speed and power of a properly tuned modern sport bike......Be safe....

[FU]

Start modifying it. Most of the mods will make the LT5 run hard without changing the appearance of the engine or the character of driving experience. But you will have a huge grin on your face.

[Paul Workman]

Frank is so right! That LT5 just wants to BREATHE! Porting and headers don't alter the appearance or the drivability at all. But, what a difference 500+ hp makes...while keeping a stock idle to boot!:dancing

Welcome to the BROTHERHOOD OF THE BEAST!

Sport bikes...AH, Yessss... My thrill was my first ZX-11 Ninja. What a RUSH!

My fastest sprint was a little over 150. A I was in the right lane (freeway) when a guy on a GSX came up beside me in the left lane, looked over at me and nodded and then nailed it. Traffic was cruising at 70 ish in my lane. Wellll..... Of course I couldn't let that stand, so, "click-click" & twist of the wrist and OH-BABY, OH-BABY, OH-BABY!! There's nuttin' like the sound or the rush produced by an angry liter bike!!

My helmet was was buffeting and sliding about on my head when I looked down at the speedo. The tack was still climbing and the Ninja wanted to play some more, but finally some common sense reminded me I was sharing the road with cars - and if one pulled out ahead of me to pass, I'd splatter like a bug - on the rear bumper!

Regrettably... hard times hit and I had to sell that bike. But, like you, the rush came back on my first pass in the 1/4 mile event with the Z. And the permagrin has never left me in the 10 years since!

BTW... Are you doing anything the week of May 14th? A group of us are going on the 5th Mountain Run (MR5) that starts Sunday night at the drivers meeting in Blowing Rock, NC. the next 2 days are filled with some spirited drives through some twisty mountain roads before heading over to Bowling Green, KY for the annual C4 Corvette Gathering - which is going to feature some track events, some go-carts, some guided tours through the local mountains (fun!). And, some good ol comradery too!

Hope you can make it!

Paul.

PS: For more info, look at the MR5 threads and or PM GUNNY if you have more questions.

Welcome!

[gmonsen]

Livin' in the 80's... Congratulations on the new Z. I quit the liter bikes some time ago, but can remember doing 150 and saying that's enough for me. Ever. At 69 I'm limiting myself to half a liter.

Paul... I've done a lot but no motor work. Big brakes. Chassis braces. New A-arms, bushings, and shocks. Bigger front sway bar. Is there an easier route to porting than Haibeck? I can install some long tube headers at home, but would need the porting and a new chip.

[ssrszz4]

I have a 2000 Hayabusa a 1985 rg500 Walter wolf a 1990 Owo1 Yamaha a Ducati 916 monster and a bunch of other odds and ends. I'm 67 and still riding them.

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[gmonsen]

I sold my 900SS and 916 and VFR about a year ago. Kept a lot of under 500cc bikes though.

[Livin' in the 80's]

I have a 2000 Hayabusa a 1985 rg500 Walter wolf a 1990 Owo1 Yamaha a Ducati 916 monster and a bunch of other odds and ends. I'm 67 and still riding them.

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Got rid of my 2002 busa. I have a road king and my wife rides 884 low. I probably would be dead if I kept the busa. It was like death riding my busa with my wife and her Harley. I gave in for comfort and my life. That busa was insanely fast. I pretty much hit top speed on it on rt91 in Vermont. My buddy was on his Harley going about 80 mph and I went by him like he was going backwards. I hope I don't loose my license driving this z-it is always tempting to drop a gear mash the throttle. I am 48 going on 18.


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[PhillipsLT5]

Start modifying it. Most of the mods will make the LT5 run hard without changing the appearance of the engine or the character of driving experience. But you will have a huge grin on your face.

Yep, banging the 1st 5 gears at redline and letting it pull slow in 6th a blast

[Livin' in the 80's]

Yep, banging the 1st 5 gears at redline and letting it pull slow in 6th a blast

I don't plan on ripping heads off and doing all sorts of porting. The most I would ever do would be full exhaust and eliminate the cats. What would this give me and would it be even worth doing? It is mind blowing fast as is. I wouldn't have time to do it and I would never ship it to have it done.
I would sell this and look for a modified one already done before doing all of the work.

[efnfast]

Check Marc's web site
http://www.zr1specialist.com/HAT%20Web/products/major%20engine%20upgrades.htm
He's got a pretty good rundown on what to expect form upgrades.
BTW, you get used to the power pretty quick. My car is currently getting top end porting and cams. I hope this is enough, because next is more cubes and I'm hoping not to go down that road.

[Paul Workman]

Livin' in the 80's... Congratulations on the new Z. I quit the liter bikes some time ago, but can remember doing 150 and saying that's enough for me. Ever. At 69 I'm limiting myself to half a liter.

Paul... I've done a lot but no motor work. Big brakes. Chassis braces. New A-arms, bushings, and shocks. Bigger front sway bar. Is there an easier route to porting than Haibeck? I can install some long tube headers at home, but would need the porting and a new chip.

There are several ppl that have done LT5 porting; Marc's is one that is a well known quantity, but others have done it as well. Pete is another local guy that has done a good deal of porting and development work on the LT5 - including cams.

Top-end porting (limited to the plenum and IHs and some upper - half of the head runners) can be a DIY project, WITH the proper ball gauge(s) and tools. Rear wheel HP can be increased from around 335 stock to 400+ with the addition of headers to augment the porting.

Full porting, including the heads, is prolly best left to the experts, as some special runner shape considerations are needed to maximize results w/o breaching either oil or water galleries. And, too, that would be an excellent time to install some of Pete's cams! As such, RWHP would easily be in the 450s - not too bad from a 350 cid motor with good manners!

[gmonsen]

Thanks, Paul. I am likely to do just the porting and headers, assuming that cams are going to give me that lopey idle. I want it to sound fairly stock and really don't need or want more power than that would provide. I'm on the east coast, but probably will use Marc.

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[George Maz]

Yep, banging the 1st 5 gears at redline and letting it pull slow in 6th a blast
Careful with the ZF 6th gear, its for maintaining cruise speed on flat highway only. No pulling, accelerating, or pressure on that gear whatsoever.
World Record Run was done in 5th gear with a rear-end ratio change to 3.07 from 3.45.

[Tripler]

Careful with the ZF 6th gear, its for maintaining cruise speed on flat highway only. No pulling, accelerating, or pressure on that gear whatsoever.
World Record Run was done in 5th gear with a rear-end ratio change to 3.07 from 3.45.
I did not know that ... Interesting . I am sure if you were doing a run somewhere you could use 6th for bit no ?
Just curious as to why it is not recommended .

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[PhillipsLT5]

Careful with the ZF 6th gear, its for maintaining cruise speed on flat highway only. No pulling, accelerating, or pressure on that gear whatsoever.
World Record Run was done in 5th gear with a rear-end ratio change to 3.07 from 3.45.
Thanks for the info, but I have made numerous 1.5 mile runs going into to 6th aprox 170MPH, 7K in 5th with 4.10,s, no problem, Bill B ZFDOC magic, car pulled to 181 MPH at 1.5 mile, then drove the car home 7 hours

[George Maz]

I had a different experience on the highway in 6th when transmission grenaded. After a bunch of research and talking to other owners, the advice was the same ...careful with 6th. I'm actually about to install one of Bill Brodreau black tag into my car now, along with new clutch, master, and slave. Hopefully have the same bullet proof reliability some of you guys enjoy.

[Tripler]

I had a different experience on the highway in 6th when transmission grenaded. After a bunch of research and talking to other owners, the advice was the same ...careful with 6th. I'm actually about to install one of Bill Brodreau black tag into my car now, along with new clutch, master, and slave. Hopefully have the same bullet proof reliability some of you guys enjoy.

Thanks for that info George and sorry you had an issue . I was unaware of a ZF transmission having any issues and I was told they were bullet proof unless when speed shifting , the clutch must be completely depressed otherwise it could be damaged . I was told this by Marc Haibeck in BG last year and I am sure he would know all about the ZF trans .

;)

[5ABI VT]

For all of you that are owners and alike. I have owned many sport bikes in my Life. I can say that I have experienced the hayabusa at over 180 at a snap of a finger. This car is the closest I have driven that reminds me of that. If you haven't drive fast sport bikes, you. Need to at least experience it. The zr1 tonight on the highway blew me away as far as the acceleration. My busa would have blown it away, but this would have eventually kept up. Holy crap is this car fast! WOW


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Congrats !! These cars definitely like the higher speeds! I know I do enjoy them in my Z ! Stock it was way too soft and floaty and a little scary if anything even at 80 mph but fresh suspension wheels and tires etc really sharpened it up right to 180 mph ;)


I too miss my bikes but will never get another or Ill probably kill myself . I had an 03 gixxer 600 modded a bit then an 04 750. It really reinforced my love for dohc and higher rpm engines as I loved to hear them scream at high rpms . The 600 wouldn't budge much past 265 km/hr and even so from 240-260 it was struggling. the 750 had steam to about 275-280 km/hr and I managed to eke out 302 km/hr about 5-6 times on the qew highway at 4am ! Of course with speedo error common on these bikes as speeds increase it was likely 275+ and not really over 300. To me the difference from 220k -300 km/hr wasn't very noticeable at all especially considering I did it at night on a 5 lane highway with no cars around or even in sight.

[5ABI VT]

Thanks for that info George and sorry you had an issue . I was unaware of a ZF transmission having any issues and I was told they were bullet proof unless when speed shifting , the clutch must be completely depressed otherwise it could be damaged . I was told this by Marc Haibeck in BG last year and I am sure he would know all about the ZF trans .

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I blew up my black tag ZF6 in 1998 in my 93 Lt1 car. It had 4.10 gears and I was using 6th a lot as 5th ran out of steam at around 250 km/hr. After a weekend of abuse the Monday driving up the 400 to Uni cruising in 6th gear for 5 minutes the trans literally seized and grenaded and felt like almost locked the tires at 120 km/hr. There was sufficient fluid in the trans, and the 6th gear synchro was white hot and failed. After talking to Bill at ZFdoc he said 6th and reverse share the same synchro and/or there is a lack of fluid circulation around those areas at speed and it is not ideal for load or wot for extended periods of time. Was one of the reasons I bought a brand new blue tag and had him modify it with everything he could to handle the 8k + rpms of the next stroker build in that car. 6th is so tall even with 4.10 gears you will be around 250-300mph at redline it is strictly designed as a fuel economy ratio. Check out individual ratios for 6th across all sports cars and youll see that chevy designed it this way to avoid gas guzzler tax etc.

[edram454]

Listen to Mr. Maz carefully. He is lucky to be alive since his tranny totally locked up while at speed. 6th gear was not meant as an acceleration gear. It is a maintaining speed gear and attaining miles per gallons, not miles per hour. Do as you like you were warned.

edram454

[Livin' in the 80's]

Great information to know. I haven't even put in 6th gear and if I ever do it will be a coast situation on the highway at high speed without any torque.

Are there any pics of this 6th gear placement in the trans. It would be interesting to see it.