Fun in the Sun @WAZOO 4/8/17 [Archive] - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

Roadster

04-09-2017, 12:10 AM

It has been a fun and productive day @WAZOO Maintenance Day for the gang and myself. Besides driving down to Jim's for a gathering today, I also had the opportunity to drive down and visit another fellow WAZOO member Bob Cooke at his house on Wednesday. Put about 400 plus miles on the ZR-1 this week. Ran great, still have the slight idle issue, but that is for another thread.

Enjoyed Wednesday over at Bob's, got to see his collection and garages. Very impressive, also owns a C2, C3 & C6 ZR1 besides the 93 Ruby ZR-1. Thanks to Bob and his wife Lois for their hospitality, appreciated. :)

Not only sunny on Wednesday, but a great sunny Saturday for the WMD at Jim's. Rolled in about 9:40 this AM and there are two ZR-1's in the garage, one is Al's which is up on the lift and the other is Charlie's which is backed in the other bay.

Al is getting an extensive drivetrain makeover which includes replacing the DMF, PP, TOB, and Clutch disc. But wait, there is more, he also is replacing the u-joints in the driveshaft and adding the C4 Beam Plates to the driveline beam. And changing the trans fluid with the trans out of the car. A very busy all day schedule for sure!!!

Charlie on the other hand is Charlie, what else can I say!!! :rolleyes: lol
Charlie is busy replacing his fuel pumps and also needs to track down a persistent fluid leak which later is finally solved.

Bob is also anxious to get his Haibeck chip installed, I helped installing the chip and it's a success. Need to get a follow up report from everyone about their results.

Rich and Bob are also there early helping and filming Charlie and also Al doing their repairs. Jim of course is giving guidance and helping out anyway he can. I start taking pics and help in between whenever I can. I have a ton of pics to post. The whole purpose of course is to share with everyone what a WMD is like and the fun, and enjoyment that is achieved during and when the job is complete. Nelson arrived later and mentioned that posting the pics not only shows members what can be done, but may also give them the incentive to do to a job that they normally would not attempt. I agree with Nelson and hope that the members who may not think they can accomplish a certain task, will maybe give it another thought.
OF course this does not pertain to the many capable members and other groups around the country who have the knowledge, know how and facilities to perform any task needed. These pics are just for their viewing pleasure.

As the morning progressed, Matt and his son Dillon showed up in their recent purchase of a second ZR-1, this one in White, looking very good.
Al's son Jimmy arrived and was a big help to dad with the task at hand.
Darrin arrived just in time when the bellhousing just got removed.....lol
Yun, Phil, another Rich and I'm sure others could not make it today, although Yun checked in later during the day for a report.

Have to say that Jim and Rich are like the energizer bunny, they keep going and going and going. Again, a fun productive day, great to see everyone!!!

Hope you enjoy the pics, as there are many.....

I'll start with the crew......
L-R...Bob...Jim...Charlie...Matt...Rich...Jimmy...Al ...Darrin...Dillon and yours truly....taking the pic. Nelson showed up later after the group pic, but I did get a shot of his ZR1.
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Roadster

04-09-2017, 12:11 AM

Rich and Charlie starting the removal process for the fuel pumps replacement...
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Roadster

04-09-2017, 12:11 AM

The old fuel socks were loaded with dirt and there was even some floating items in the tank...
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Roadster

04-09-2017, 12:12 AM

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Roadster

04-09-2017, 12:12 AM

Al and Jim start removing the necessary parts for clutch replacement...
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Roadster

04-09-2017, 12:13 AM

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Roadster

04-09-2017, 12:13 AM

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Roadster

04-09-2017, 12:14 AM

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Roadster

04-09-2017, 12:15 AM

Everything removed, pilot bearing was still good, so did not replace...
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"New" used DMF installed...
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New clutch disc installed...
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New PP and TOB installed, with original clutch fork being reused...
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Bellhousing reinstalled...
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trans getting lined up for installation...
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Roadster

04-09-2017, 12:15 AM

still lining up the trans...http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/WAZOO%202017/20170408_142756.jpg (http://s127.photobucket.com/user/SSROADSTER/media/WAZOO%202017/20170408_142756.jpg.html)
Driveshaft installed...
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plus installing the C Beam Plates...
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Roadster

04-09-2017, 12:16 AM

C Beam Plates all installed...
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Exhaust system installed...
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Roadster

04-09-2017, 12:17 AM

Bob reattaching the ECM cover after we installed the new chip...
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Matt and Dillon leaving WAZOO in their newer purchased ZR-1, now they have two!!!
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Bob's Ruby 93 all ready with the chip installed...
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Roadster

04-09-2017, 12:17 AM

Trying to figure out Rich's high idle problem...
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Doing another pressure test on Charlie's 92, and the leak was found...it was coolant...
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The 94 just waiting for the return ride home, and what an enjoyable ride it was!!!
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Nelson's 1 of 5 2012 preproduction ZR1's that were used at the track in Nuremberg, Germany for record setting...
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Roadster

04-09-2017, 12:18 AM

Pics are posted, need to go back and post some captions.....if I don't fall asleep first....lol
Stay tuned.......

HAWAIIZR-1

04-09-2017, 01:10 AM

Wow, so jealous. WAZOO is awesome. Love the FA decal. "Fire for effect!"

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Roadster

04-09-2017, 02:04 AM

Wow, so jealous. WAZOO is awesome. Love the FA decal. "Fire for effect"!

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Thanks Craig, hope you and everyone will enjoy the pics. I did not take a complete step by step pic of each job preformed. With so much going on, it is difficult to catch every single action that everyone is doing.
So if anyone has any questions about any jobs completed at WAZOO in this set, just post your question, and we the WAZOO crew will answer the best we can. And again, this is primarily for those members who do not do any mechanical work on their ZR-1's.
Of course everyone is more than welcome to post their opinions or observations on any of the pics shown.
Thanks for checking us out!!! Time to get some sleep......:icon_boun

902066

04-09-2017, 03:41 AM

Having just put my 90 back together yesterday 4/8/17, I would be curious to know the causes of Richs high idle, and Charlie's coolant leak? Thanks for the pics, always interesting to look at. Jim

04-09-2017, 07:56 AM

Looks like nice productive day in Wazoo land. Thanks for sharing the pictures.

Ahomans

04-09-2017, 09:59 AM

A great WAZOO Maintenance Day for me getting the flywheel and clutch replaced and C-beam plates installed. Thanks for the nice album of pictures, Tom. And thanks for the help from WAZOO members, especially Jim, Tom, Rich, and Darrin and also my son Jimmy, who came to help knowing that his old man's body would be tired and worn out before the job was done. The new clutch engaged more smoothly than the old one on the drive home and obviously when we looked at the old clutch disc, it was worn. A day to remember.

Al

QB93Z

04-09-2017, 10:47 AM

Thanks for posting the great pictures Tom.

It was a Fine WAZOO Day. We got a lot done and had a good time doing it. The Pizza was 45 minutes late but that was not too much of a problem.

Jim

Roadster

04-09-2017, 10:57 AM

Having just put my 90 back together yesterday 4/8/17, I would be curious to know the causes of Richs high idle, and Charlie's coolant leak? Thanks for the pics, always interesting to look at. Jim

Jim, we will have to wait for both Rich and Charlie to respond, as I had to leave before their jobs were completed. I think that Charlie's leak is (was) due to a hose or hose clamp adjustment.
Glad you enjoyed the pics.

Looks like nice productive day in Wazoo land. Thanks for sharing the pictures.

Yes, a very productive day Frank, always a good time @WAZOO. Glad you liked the pics.

A great WAZOO Maintenance Day for me getting the flywheel and clutch replaced and C-beam plates installed. Thanks for the nice album of pictures, Tom. And thanks for the help from WAZOO members, especially Jim, Tom, Rich, and Darrin and also my son Jimmy, who came to help knowing that his old man's body would be tired and worn out before the job was done. The new clutch engaged more smoothly than the old one on the drive home and obviously when we looked at the old clutch disc, it was worn. A day to remember.

Al

Al, wish I could have stayed for the start-up to see the smile on your face...lol
But as you know I had a long drive back home. Sounds like everything was a success. I enjoy taking pics just as things happen, glad you liked them.
Everyone was a big help and that's what's it all about!!!
If you get time Al, can you elaborate more on the feel your Z.

1- how does the trans feel shifting with the new fluid?
2- how do you feel about the clutch engagement and disengagement?
3- did you notice any ride or handling differences with the C Beam Plates installed?

I know you mentioned everything feels smoother, but if you can go into a little more detail, it would be appreciated. I think members would like to hear a full report. Thanks....

QB93Z

04-09-2017, 11:02 AM

Having just put my 90 back together yesterday 4/8/17, I would be curious to know the causes of Richs high idle, and Charlie's coolant leak? Thanks for the pics, always interesting to look at. Jim

We did not completely diagnose the idle issue with Rich's LT5. The engine was modified at South Georgia Corvettes which is no longer in business and the owner who had the mods done has passed away. So we are starting from scratch to sort it all out. I think that the car has an aggressive cam profile and that the idle was set a little high to improve drivability. But when I put the Tech 1 on it, I see Idle Air Controller counts of 0 to 1. To me that suggests there is a vacuum leak, most likely under the plenum. The secondary system was removed, and there are some vacuum lines that have been rerouted/modified. We ran out of time yesterday but we will keep working on it.

NOTE: The ZR-1 we are discussing here belongs to Rich J. not Rich M (Scrrem on the Forum), his car is running fine.

Jim

Ahomans

04-09-2017, 02:32 PM

Al, wish I could have stayed for the start-up to see the smile on your face...lol
But as you know I had a long drive back home. Sounds like everything was a success. I enjoy taking pics just as things happen, glad you liked them.
Everyone was a big help and that's what's it all about!!!
If you get time Al, can you elaborate more on the feel your Z.

1- how does the trans feel shifting with the new fluid?
2- how do you feel about the clutch engagement and disengagement?
3- did you notice any ride or handling differences with the C Beam Plates installed?

I know you mentioned everything feels smoother, but if you can go into a little more detail, it would be appreciated. I think members would like to hear a full report. Thanks....[/QUOTE]

Tom,
1. Transmission shifting is smoother with the new fluid. We used Amsoil MTF 5w30. The previous oil was Red Line but it had been in for a while and was due to be replaced.
2. Clutch engagement felt much better and more smoother than before. It is easier to engage the clutch with lower engine revs now. I did not notice a difference in disengagement.
3. I did not notice a difference in ride or handling with the C-beam plates but I did not drive it hard on the trip home. I did notice some rattles and clunking sounds and mentioned it to Jim Voter this morning. He pointed out as evident in your pictures that we did not remove the washers from the bolts when we installed the C-beam plates, as is stated by Bill B. in the installation instructions. I had just missed that and that may be the cause of the noises I heard. i will try to get that fixed this week, maybe with Jim's help and lift. The noises occur at low speeds when starting or stopping but at cruising speeds it all seemed to be normal.

We had noticed what may have been a coolant leak when we got it up on the lift yesterday so I was somewhat concerned about that during the drive home. I did not want an overheating problem or loss of coolant so I drove easily. This morning I did not see any coolant drops on the garage floor but did see a few on the chassis behind the right front wheel. More to be looked at.

Overall, very satisfied with the results of the WAZOO MD.
Al

dredgeguy

04-09-2017, 06:16 PM

What a great day, missed getting together with the gang, been a long winter. I have had a fluid spray under the hood on the drivers side. A few weeks ago we traced it down to 3 coolant leaks from loose flanges. I replaced the radiator and hoses last year or the year before, can't remember but the clamps got loose. Now I still have a small leak when we put the system under 15psi pressure. Looks like it is in the water pump area but I replaced the water pump 2 years ago so hopefully it is just a gasket. Will need to get a good light and scope to see where it is leaking, just hope not a complete water pump. Gasket or pump, still going to be a pain getting it out.
Thanks to Jim for hosting us and getting all problems sorted out and to Rich for his helping hand and guidance in changing out my fuel pumps. Was an easy job when you have somebody coaching you. Tom, thanks for taking the photos and giving the play by play.

Roadster

04-09-2017, 07:45 PM

Blownrunner

04-09-2017, 08:40 PM

QB93Z

04-09-2017, 10:09 PM

I need to move...

A few questions about the clutch job you guys did:

Does the weight need to be removed from the rear tires before loosening the C-beam bolts?

How did you get the driveshaft removed? Is it bolted in or did you have to press out the universal?

Is it that hard to remove the C-beam? Reason I ask is the use of the BFH and what looks like a block of wood.

Can the C-beam be removed with the driveshaft left in?

I am going to install the beam plates on my 91', F-Doc's instructions call for blending out any burrs the mounting bolts might cause so I was thinking of removing it to do the inspection. I know my clutch won't last forever is another reason I am asking. Clutch works great now bit the car is over 25 years old and has 30K miles on it.

I'm a good wrench but never did a clutch before. Going to do the beam plates and possibly headers as soon as I finish up the timing belt on my other 'toy'.

BTW thanks for the pictures.

Yes you have to have the rear wheels off the ground (or lift) in order to allow the drive shaft to be rotated to get to all the u-joint strap bolts on the drive shaft at the differential. The C-Beam is not the issue for raising the rear end.

The drive shaft is a sliding spline connection at the transmission output shaft. Once the differential U-Joint is removed, the drive shaft can be pushed forward slightly and disengaged from the Differential then pulled aft to remove it from the transmission. Be ready for a small amount of oil when the driveshaft is removed from the transmission.

Note: On some cars the drive shaft can be removed with the C-beam in place. On some cars, you have to unbolt and move the C-Beam to get the drive shaft out.

The way to remove the C-Beam is as follows. Support the back of the engine with a jack and block of wood that is as wide as the rear of the oil pan. Make sure that the jack and wood block do not prevent access to the bell housing front shield bolts if you need to get to the clutch or flywheel. Remove the C-Beam bolts. If the bolts are under tension, raise or lower the back of the motor to relieve the strain. Using a hammer and wood block, tap the c-beam forward and away from the transmission. Then from the back tap the c-beam forward until it clears the front of the differential where the U-joint was. Next lower the rear of the engine until the c-beam is angled down and below the differential. Then slide the c-beam aft and off the transmission. Most cars require some hammering to accomplish this. I have done one ZR-1 where the c-beam could be removed with no hammering at all. The BFH is not necessary, it just completes the task with fewer strikes. Some times you just have to convince the part to go where you want it to go.

You could install the C-Beam plates without removing the C-Beam or the driveshaft, but you would not be able to inspect the surfaces. I don't think you could remove the C-beam without removing the drive shaft.

All of the above requires removing the Exhaust system.

To me, a 25 year old, 30K miles clutch on a ZR-1 is just getting broken in. The ZR-1 Clutch System is very robust in my opinion. I have removed many clutches from 80K or more miles cars that were in very good condition. If you don't have any drivability issues, I would leave it alone.

Installing headers is an all-day (8-hour) job for a team of workers. We have done a lot of header installs in WAZOO and it is not technically hard but there are a lot of bolts that require patience and ingenuity to remove and install.

Roadster

04-09-2017, 10:16 PM

QB93Z

04-09-2017, 10:39 PM

Another caution on removing the drive shaft. I recommend having a spare drive shaft u-joint on hand when removing the drive shaft. The issue is that when you are trying to get the back end of the drive shaft clear of the differential, it often results that the bearing caps that had been held on by the straps and bolts will come off the u-joint and the needle bearing will be disturbed. I had a u-joint failure after two hours of driving following a clutch replacement. I believe that the needle bearing failed in that case.

So you want to be very careful of the u-joint and be ready to replace it if needed. We had to do this on Al's car yesterday.

Jim

dredgeguy

04-10-2017, 12:02 PM

Wow, so jealous. WAZOO is awesome. Love the FA decal. "Fire for effect!"

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Me too, my son is a LT in the Army (Fire Support Officer) currently deployed to Germany,Poland and the Baltics :fahne:

dredgeguy

04-10-2017, 12:06 PM

Thanking Jim for Rich's update on his possible vacuum leak(s), Al and Charlie for the updated reports on the work performed. I think it is important to share the results as mentioned earlier, so members can see what works and what doesn't. That way they will have a better understanding if they decide to take on a certain repair or maintenance.
:cheers:

BTW Charlie, we still need your report on how the engine feels with the replacement fuel pumps.....

My car feels good. I think the old original pumps were on their way out, now have 85,000 miles on my car. I wanted some insurance before MR5.
I did not want to push it hard until I get the small coolant leak resolved. Hope just another lose clamp and not the water pump. I will get it up on a lift to check this week.

HAWAIIZR-1

04-10-2017, 05:05 PM

Me too, my son is a LT in the Army (Fire Support Officer) currently deployed to Germany,Poland and the Baltics :fahne:

I see. Congratulations and please thank your son for serving. Army Strong!!!!

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GOLDCYLON

04-10-2017, 05:11 PM

Say hello from a former Army Red leg

ask him if he knows what

UP40FFE means

It was my personal license plate for 25 years. :cheers:

dredgeguy

04-11-2017, 12:01 AM

Say hello from a former Army Red leg

ask him if he knows what

UP40FFE means

It was my personal license plate for 25 years. :cheers:

Will do and thanks. He is out in the field so hopefully he will see the email and get back to me.

Ahomans

04-11-2017, 09:27 AM

My car feels good. I think the old original pumps were on their way out, now have 85,000 miles on my car. I wanted some insurance before MR5.
I did not want to push it hard until I get the small coolant leak resolved. Hope just another lose clamp and not the water pump. I will get it up on a lift to check this week.

Charlie, Where did you get your new fuel pumps? I am thinking of replacing the pumps in my ZR-1 as preventive maintenance. I believe they have 106,000 miles and 27 years of life.
Al

dredgeguy

04-11-2017, 09:47 AM

Ahomans

04-11-2017, 10:28 AM

I contacted Marc H and asked for his recommendation and he said he gets his from Rockauto. I ordered them online at rockauto.com, part number P240KC (2 needed) at $19.40 each plus $7.88 shipping so for less than $50 you get all what you need delivered. They were exact fit.

Thanks, Charlie. I very much respect recommendations from Marc H. and have been satisfied with Rock Auto. Reasonable prices and quick delivery.

Blownrunner

04-11-2017, 05:02 PM

Yes you have to have the rear wheels off the ground (or lift) in order to allow the drive shaft to be rotated to get to all the u-joint strap bolts on the drive shaft at the differential. The C-Beam is not the issue for raising the rear end.

The drive shaft is a sliding spline connection at the transmission output shaft. Once the differential U-Joint is removed, the drive shaft can be pushed forward slightly and disengaged from the Differential then pulled aft to remove it from the transmission. Be ready for a small amount of oil when the driveshaft is removed from the transmission.

Note: On some cars the drive shaft can be removed with the C-beam in place. On some cars, you have to unbolt and move the C-Beam to get the drive shaft out.

The way to remove the C-Beam is as follows. Support the back of the engine with a jack and block of wood that is as wide as the rear of the oil pan. Make sure that the jack and wood block do not prevent access to the bell housing front shield bolts if you need to get to the clutch or flywheel. Remove the C-Beam bolts. If the bolts are under tension, raise or lower the back of the motor to relieve the strain. Using a hammer and wood block, tap the c-beam forward and away from the transmission. Then from the back tap the c-beam forward until it clears the front of the differential where the U-joint was. Next lower the rear of the engine until the c-beam is angled down and below the differential. Then slide the c-beam aft and off the transmission. Most cars require some hammering to accomplish this. I have done one ZR-1 where the c-beam could be removed with no hammering at all. The BFH is not necessary, it just completes the task with fewer strikes. Some times you just have to convince the part to go where you want it to go.

You could install the C-Beam plates without removing the C-Beam or the driveshaft, but you would not be able to inspect the surfaces. I don't think you could remove the C-beam without removing the drive shaft.

All of the above requires removing the Exhaust system.

To me, a 25 year old, 30K miles clutch on a ZR-1 is just getting broken in. The ZR-1 Clutch System is very robust in my opinion. I have removed many clutches from 80K or more miles cars that were in very good condition. If you don't have any drivability issues, I would leave it alone.

Installing headers is an all-day (8-hour) job for a team of workers. We have done a lot of header installs in WAZOO and it is not technically hard but there are a lot of bolts that require patience and ingenuity to remove and install.

Thanks so much for the responses, come to think of it I will just remove the clutch inspection plate and maybe do an inspection and be done with it. I also imagine that installing the new headers is a lot easier than removing the old.

QB93Z

04-11-2017, 08:48 PM

Thanks so much for the responses, come to think of it I will just remove the clutch inspection plate and maybe do an inspection and be done with it. I also imagine that installing the new headers is a lot easier than removing the old.

The ZR-1 does not have a clutch inspection plate. The only way to see the clutch is to remove the transmission, bell housing and the clutch.

Jim

nelson007

04-11-2017, 11:21 PM

Does. FFE Mean fire for effect ?

Nelon

Say hello from a former Army Red leg

ask him if he knows what

UP40FFE means

It was my personal license plate for 25 years. :cheers:

-=Jeff=-

04-12-2017, 09:08 AM

I contacted Marc H and asked for his recommendation and he said he gets his from Rockauto. I ordered them online at rockauto.com, part number P240KC (2 needed) at $19.40 each plus $7.88 shipping so for less than $50 you get all what you need delivered. They were exact fit.

That part is not listed at rock auto :confused:

However, a google search shows it to be at rock auto..

dredgeguy

04-13-2017, 10:49 AM

Say hello from a former Army Red leg

ask him if he knows what

UP40FFE means

It was my personal license plate for 25 years. :cheers:

I just got a response from my son Casey in the field regarding UP40FFE
He said,

Up 40 is height of burst correction for a time fuse when you observe a graze burst without a previous airburst. Time fuses are supposed to detonate 20m above target, primarily used for dismounted infantry in trench lines

Looks like he has been well trained.:fahne:

dredgeguy

04-13-2017, 03:47 PM

Having just put my 90 back together yesterday 4/8/17, I would be curious to know the causes of Richs high idle, and Charlie's coolant leak? Thanks for the pics, always interesting to look at. Jim

I was able to get the car up on ramps and put the cooling system under pressure. The lower radiator hose was leaking due to a loose clamp. Hopefully that takes care of the spay under the hood. If any thing else develops, will report it but so far all good.

QB93Z

04-13-2017, 07:27 PM

Good news Charlie.

Jim

nelson007

04-13-2017, 10:52 PM

I was able to get the car up on ramps and put the cooling system under pressure. The lower radiator hose was leaking due to a loose clamp. Hopefully that takes care of the spay under the hood. If any thing else develops, will report it but so far all good.

I thought the guy near the airport tightned the hose clips a couple of weeks ago and had solved the leaking problem? I thought you needed a water pump gasket.

Nelson

dredgeguy

04-14-2017, 11:32 AM

I thought the guy near the airport tightned the hose clips a couple of weeks ago and had solved the leaking problem? I thought you needed a water pump gasket.

Nelson

That was my concern, water pump or gasket or both but it was just the lower hose clamp. Looks like out of the 3 lose clamps, one was still not tight enough. It is now. :)

GOLDCYLON

04-14-2017, 12:35 PM

I just got a response from my son Casey in the field regarding UP40FFE
He said,

Up 40 is height of burst correction for a time fuse when you observe a graze burst without a previous airburst. Time fuses are supposed to detonate 20m above target, primarily used for dismounted infantry in trench lines

Looks like he has been well trained.:fahne:

He is correct and any FSO (Fires Support Officer) worth his salt would have learned that from OBC Officer Basic Course as a 13A out of the school house at FT Sill OK. :handshak:

FFE Fire for Effects means the entire ARTILLERY Battery, Battalion, Brigade or Division would fire on those coordinates for the maximum devastating effect on the enemy. Steel rain