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Geronimo555
04-04-2017, 11:43 PM
I'm starting to look at ZR-1's, i'm seeing big price swings for cars that seem to be very similar in year, milage, and such. I would love to get a deal, but it scares the heck out of me to pick a money pit with such a potentially expensive engine.

What am I missing here?

Roadster
04-05-2017, 12:16 AM
I'm starting to look at ZR-1's, i'm seeing big price swings for cars that seem to be very similar in year, milage, and such. I would love to get a deal, but it scares the heck out of me to pick a money pit with such a potentially expensive engine.

What am I missing here?

Your missing the opportunity to own a very unique piece of Corvette History, the LT5!!! You are at the right place to gather all of the info needed to make a very informative purchase if that is your goal.
But not just owning a LT5, but getting to know a great group of people who are willing to help in anyway they can, just about at anytime...
So with all of the info available to you, don't be scared about picking a money pit, the forum will help you go in the right direction....
And that's what you are missing!!! Good luck in your search, you won't regret it at all!!!:)

32valvesftw
04-05-2017, 08:46 AM
Don't be misled by the asking prices you see on eBay. I have been tracking a number of ZR-1s on Ebay and many are not selling. Your best bet is buy a car from someone on this board, you will probably get a better car with mods for a better price.

Geronimo555
04-05-2017, 08:47 AM
And that is why I am here.... :)

1LEZ
04-05-2017, 09:23 AM
I agree that it would be best to buy one from someone here. You can make sure some of the necessary things have been done such as.. Injectors, clutch slave and master cylinders and fluids. Transmission and diff fluids. Possibly coils. These are great cars but they are approaching 30.

AnthonyGS
04-05-2017, 10:03 AM
I wouldn't hesitate to buy one right now. They are a bargain. I wouldn't worry about the engine much either as they are amazingly durable. Having everything's g operating at optimum can take a little work but the help here makes it easier. The real weakness these cars have are the usual C4 corvette issues. I think my car had most of them and I'm still ironing a few out. My one real dislike about the car is the loud howl of the ZF and that's being nitpick. I finally joined the registry as this is a car I will never sell or trade. I'm considering trading my C3 for another one right now.

JThomas
04-05-2017, 10:43 AM
It's really no different than buying any other used car. Decide on what you want, find it, and inspect it as thoroughly as possible. Use the people on this forum to educate yourself about the car. Ask the owner about documentation, maintenance, and the vehicle's use. Major things will stand out, but expect to repair minor issues, especially on a 22-27 year old car. As far as pricing goes, it's worth what YOU are willing to pay. Set your goals and stick to them. Sometimes the fun is in the hunt and the satisfaction is in the achievement of a job well done. :cheers:

Geronimo555
04-05-2017, 03:41 PM
With luck and some work on my part, I hope to get one before June, it would be nice to display it for the GM design center employee car show. ;)

Vette73
04-05-2017, 06:10 PM
I agree with the former post about fluctuating prices on eBay....I walk around all day with a work I pad so I too have been following pricing on these cars for years....

Most low mileage ZR-1s I see on eBay are priced high just for the fact of the low miles.....If I were to go to a dealer and look at a ZR-1 I would give the dealership the old story about " nobody wants to work on them" " nobody wants a C-4 anymore" phrases like that.....Many dealerships know nothing about the LT-5, they just know the badging on the car......If you see a real nice one at a dealership check it out and stick to a price......Most dealerships will probably say no but leave your number with your offer.....Many stories about ZR-1 purchases just like that where the dealership agreed on price because they wanted the car to move....

With all that, if you can hook up with a member selling one you would probably be ahead of the game.....Many are well kept and up to date, at least the ones that I see.....

Helium3
04-05-2017, 09:29 PM
You'll have a much higher probability of success buying from a forum member. Getting one from a dealership, or even a 3rd party corner lot could give you unforeseen issues. Many of the maintenance issues reside from ethanol corrosion, vacuum leaks, fueling or emissions. Half of my Vettes are pushrod the others are LT5 powered. Truth be told maintenance on these is definitely higher. At times it feels like a Ferrari with a crossed flags lol. Most I ever had to fix on a LT4 or LS engine was 1-2 coil packs or distributor and some bad spark plugs.

In my opinion these cars were Chevrolet's own Countach or Testarossa of the day. Forged bottom end, near 8000rpm redline, Nikasil Liners, similar horsepower levels, wide rear end and tires. Admittedly the Countach had 345s on the back. Maybe one day we'll see 345's on the back of a Vette from the factory. Zora? Took Chevy years to put forged components back into a Vette. Nikasil Liners, probably never see those in a Vette again.

If you don't mind a aftermarket radio head unit (Pioneer) I have a 91 Torch Red with Ruby interior and 72k miles with everything working and bone stock with satin silver a-molds.

Geronimo555
04-05-2017, 10:30 PM
Countach's and Testarossa's are money pits! That scares me. :|

I bet we could squeeze 345 in there. ;)

XfireZ51
04-05-2017, 11:05 PM
Countach's and Testarossa's are money pits! That scares me. :|

I bet we could squeeze 345 in there. ;)

I have 345/19s on mine. Its a tight fit requiring some bolt head shaving.
Phil has them also.

Geronimo555
04-06-2017, 09:52 PM
Thats a big wheel.

Helium3
04-06-2017, 10:08 PM
It's a bit easier to get power out of the LT5's. My 96 LT4 has AFR heads, ram air, torquer cam, long tubes and 3" exhaust. Putting out about 480 at the crank. Irene, my white 91 Z has 500hp with headers, ram air and plenum porting with a tune. Heads ported and more aggressive cams could net another 50hp or more. These cars sound really good at redline.

There are plenty of good ZR-1 owners on this forum that are happy to help out with a PPI or technical assistance. Might require a 12 pack of beer or a take out pizza ;)

Geronimo555
04-06-2017, 10:20 PM
I would be surprised if you got 125HP from just those mods... 450CHP maybe. I would think a 475-500chp LT4 would put a hurting on a sub 500HP LT5, on everything under 120mph.

I love the LT5, but the cost of making an LT4 fast is just so cheap compared to the LT5.

A full exhaust and 4:10 would be the most I would do to a Z personally.

XfireZ51
04-06-2017, 10:48 PM
I would be surprised if you got 125HP from just those mods... 450CHP maybe. I would think a 475-500chp LT4 would put a hurting on a sub 500HP LT5, on everything under 120mph.

I love the LT5, but the cost of making an LT4 fast is just so cheap compared to the LT5.

A full exhaust and 4:10 would be the most I would do to a Z personally.

My motor put down 400rwhp with ported top end and headers. And the real difference is that power peak is at 6800rpm w a torque peak of 5300. Your LT4 is panting after 5000rpm. If you do your own porting, its pretty inexpensive.

Z51JEFF
04-06-2017, 11:28 PM
I would be surprised if you got 125HP from just those mods... 450CHP maybe. I would think a 475-500chp LT4 would put a hurting on a sub 500HP LT5, on everything under 120mph.

I love the LT5, but the cost of making an LT4 fast is just so cheap compared to the LT5.
You're questioning the people that live and breath ZR-1s? They mod the piss out of them and they do know what they are talking about. You can have an LT4 or you can have a ZR-1,as different as night and day. Spend the money on a solid car and you won't have to worry about a money pit. Interest in ZR-1s seem to be picking up so get a nice one while you can.

XfireZ51
04-07-2017, 12:46 AM
Thats a big wheel.


Breaks them loose on a 40mph 2nd gear roll.

Vette73
04-11-2017, 06:54 PM
Check out car gurus.....There's a 90 blk/blk with 47,000 miles with a lot of performance up grades including what they say is a 10,000 dollar paint job...

Motor is powder coated black with red lettering and looks real sharp...Has chrome A -molds, aftermarket,the rears don't have the deep lug design...Never the less the car looks great....

Car is located in South Carolina with an asking price of around 23,800 if I remember correctly......If I Didn't have mine I would check this one out....Lots of performance upgrades,which,trust me, can add up.....