Front inner fender skirt/cover removal

[Roadster]

In the process of removing the upper front inner fender skirt/covers attached to the hood. I can turn the screws to loosen, but they are not coming undone. I imagine that with the age and weather along the way this may be a little difficult, as they almost feel like they are stripped. Will need new screws for sure.
Any recommendations for removal of these??? thx....

[We Gone]

Gone down that road. Do it every few years to keep things clean.

http://imageshack.com/a/img538/6409/B2PYe2.jpg

[Roadster]

One day mine might look as good as yours.....:)

should have specified, I meant the upper covers attached to the hood. I don't want to proceed and make it worse than what it is!!!

just specified in post #1

[billschroeder5842]

If strippef you will have to get a "fork" of some sort to gentely push between the fender and the screw. You can put pressure on fork pushing up while you unscrew.

Please take it easy or you will strip out the fiberglass pretty easily.

[Roadster]

If strippef you will have to get a "fork" of some sort to gentely push between the fender and the screw. You can put pressure on fork pushing up while you unscrew.

Please take it easy or you will strip out the fiberglass pretty easily.

Sounds like a plan, I have one of those door panel removal tools which might work out....thanks for the tip...

[WVZR-1]

I thought that maybe in '93 there was a change to a "rivet" that held the uppers to the hood. I can't say that I've any 1st hand but catalog information seems to confirm that.

What type of a head are you finding? Phillips or Torx? I thought earlier were maybe T-30 and M6.3X1.81.

Just curious!

[Roadster]

I thought that maybe in '93 there was a change to a "rivet" that held the uppers to the hood. I can't say that I've any 1st hand but catalog information seems to confirm that.

What type of a head are you finding? Phillips or Torx? I thought earlier were maybe T-30 and M6.3X1.81.

Just curious!

My 94 has Torx screws...T15 seems to fit just fine, although some were a little elongated and have to use a T20.

[Jagdpanzer]

My 94 has rivits. I envy you guys with torx screws.

[Roadster]

My 94 has rivits. I envy you guys with torx screws.

No need to envy anymore......what I thought were, looked like, and felt like torx screws, were not screws. They did turn out to be rivets. I have never see a head on a rivet like this before....needless to say they were a joy to remove.
And part of the rivets are now inside of the hood.....oh well!!! if only there was a trap door to remove them....I need a flexible pencil magnet....

WVZR-1, you were correct in your post, no need to be curious anymore...

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[WVZR-1]

I believe that at every location where you had a rivet there's a depression that you can modify the hood to use the M6.3X1.81 screw and the u-clip. I've a '95 hood here but it's buried bottom side to the wall and I doubt I'll have a chance to get at it early but maybe late in the day.I'll try to post back with a solution OR maybe someone has done it.

The screw you'll need is the same as the liners to the fascia and fender panels on earlier cars with the T-30 Torx or the ones used on the later years with I believe a hex. Here's an Ecklers link to what would have been on the earlier thru likely '92 hoods. Not hinting towards a buy but just showing you what I expect on earlier cars.

http://www.ecklerscorvette.com/corvette-inner-fender-skirt-retainer-screw-1984-1990.html

If you search eBay for 11514290 you can catch a glimpse of the nut that would be used.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.X11514290. TRS0&_nkw=11514290&_sacat=0

[Roadster]

I believe that at every location where you had a rivet there's a depression that you can modify the hood to use the M6.3X1.81 screw and the u-clip. I've a '95 hood here but it's buried bottom side to the wall and I doubt I'll have a chance to get at it early but maybe late in the day.I'll try to post back with a solution OR maybe someone has done it.

The screw you'll need is the same as the liners to the fascia and fender panels on earlier cars with the T-30 Torx or the ones used on the later years with I believe a hex. Here's an Ecklers link to what would have been on the earlier thru likely '92 hoods. Not hinting towards a buy but just showing you what I expect on earlier cars.

http://www.ecklerscorvette.com/corvette-inner-fender-skirt-retainer-screw-1984-1990.html

If you search eBay for 11514290 you can catch a glimpse of the nut that would be used.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.X11514290. TRS0&_nkw=11514290&_sacat=0


Appreciate the info, will check it out. Whenever you look at the 95 hood is fine. I still have to clean and paint....
BTW, would you know what shade or type of black paint is used for the fender covers and under the hood? thanks for any info.....

[secondchance]

Appreciate the info, will check it out. Whenever you look at the 95 hood is fine. I still have to clean and paint....
BTW, would you know what shade or type of black paint is used for the fender covers and under the hood? thanks for any info.....

Tom,

Do not paint unless garage temp is 75+ degrees. Paint dosen't spread nor cure properly when cold.

[GOLDCYLON]

I have just cleaned these and gone in and wiped with the black restore product and it works very well.

[Roadster]

Tom,

Do not paint unless garage temp is 75+ degrees. Paint dosen't spread nor cure properly when cold.

Won't be painting today Yun, as I need to sand the cover and clean the under the hood area. But I will have my gas heater on for sure to bring up the temps for painting. I always have it on when working in there like last night when I removed the fender cover.:D thanks for the tip...

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/20170203_090447.jpg (http://s127.photobucket.com/user/SSROADSTER/media/94%20ZR-1/20170203_090447.jpg.html)

I have just cleaned these and gone in and wiped with the black restore product and it works very well.

I don't think that will work very well with mine, as there are stone digs and flaking off of the paint that is from wear and tear. I need to sand them down and paint. I have the Krylon 1613 Black (original formula) that I use for the 74, which should work out fine. I was concerned about the correct sheen, but I should be ok. That is only for the underside, as the top side should be fine with the black restore if needed. thanks for the suggestion...

[WVZR-1]

Tom,

I've sent you an email regarding my thoughts! Regarding the paint - do you need to "rattle can" this or can you actually spray this with maybe a detail gun. I still have I think some of the older GM paint but there's vendors who sell very good stuff. Melrose I think still has the GM formulation and maybe Eastwood but there's likely "premium" product available from SEM either "rattle can" or perhaps quarts.

[Roadster]

Tom,

I've sent you an email regarding my thoughts! Regarding the paint - do you need to "rattle can" this or can you actually spray this with maybe a detail gun. I still have I think some of the older GM paint but there's vendors who sell very good stuff. Melrose I think still has the GM formulation and maybe Eastwood but there's likely "premium" product available from SEM either "rattle can" or perhaps quarts.

Dave,

Received and responded to your emails.....thanks for all of the info....
There are 8 locations for the rivets. And there are the small depressions that you mentioned. Here is a shot.....if you look closely, you will see the small depressions you described, so I shouldn't have any trouble with them. The top two on the left already are opened up, I would just have to smooth those openings for the nuts to fit....
Also will probably use the Krylon 1613 as mentioned above, I am very comfortable with rattle can....lol

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/20170203_095445.jpg (http://s127.photobucket.com/user/SSROADSTER/media/94%20ZR-1/20170203_095445.jpg.html)

[secondchance]

Tom,

Underside of hood, if really necessary, can be touched up with spray paint. As for the fender liners including the piece you removed from the hood, I believe, was molded in black plastic and were not painted. If you paint these it may look good for awhile but with all the stone and debris being thrown up could end up looking worse than before.
I typically clean these pieces and coat them with Wipe-New.
Just a thought...

[Roadster]

Tom,

Underside of hood, if really necessary, can be touched up with spray paint. As for the fender liners including the piece you removed from the hood, I believe, was molded in black plastic and were not painted. If you paint these it may look good for awhile but with all the stone and debris being thrown up could end up looking worse than before.
I typically clean these pieces and coat them with Wipe-New.
Just a thought...

Yun,

There are a few spots under the hood where it may need a touch up.
Yes that piece is molded, but really looks bad on the bottom side as previous shown. I may just experiment and see what happens, can't look any worse than what it is already....lol
The topside of the piece was really packed with some road grime. Although I took a pic, my camera did not record it. And I may not even coat the topside, it doesn't look like it needs it.
So the pics that follow are with a simple clean up of a micro fiber cloth and water. Did under the hood on the left side and the top of the cover. Came out halfway decent...

Underneath left side hood before...
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/20170203_095445.jpg (http://s127.photobucket.com/user/SSROADSTER/media/94%20ZR-1/20170203_095445.jpg.html)
Underneath after...
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/20170203_122528.jpg (http://s127.photobucket.com/user/SSROADSTER/media/94%20ZR-1/20170203_122528.jpg.html)
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/20170203_122548.jpg (http://s127.photobucket.com/user/SSROADSTER/media/94%20ZR-1/20170203_122548.jpg.html)
topside of cover cleaned...
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/20170203_132438.jpg (http://s127.photobucket.com/user/SSROADSTER/media/94%20ZR-1/20170203_132438.jpg.html)
interesting info on topside of cover when replacing rivets with screws, or those who use screws already...
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/17be73e2-bcd4-48c3-bc08-94529dd8f9bd.jpg (http://s127.photobucket.com/user/SSROADSTER/media/94%20ZR-1/17be73e2-bcd4-48c3-bc08-94529dd8f9bd.jpg.html)

[Jagdpanzer]

Excellent work Tom!
Going back on will you be using rivits or torx screws?

[Roadster]

Excellent work Tom!
Going back on will you be using rivits or torx screws?

Thanks Phil, going to use screws and u-nuts as per what Dave recommended. Actually the screws will be a pleasure for future removal. I just have to use the dremel to cut open those slight depressions in the hood next to the rivet holes to install.

[WVZR-1]

Excellent work Tom!
Going back on will you be using rivits or torx screws?

I should have sufficient hardware for you also!!

[Jagdpanzer]

Thanks Dave, I very much appreciate it.

[Roadster]

Made more progress today....getting there.....lol

My selection of tools for this job getting the rivets out....the 5 lb sledge is one of the best tools I own...it even loosens bolts when even a breaker bar won't do....
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RS before disassembly...
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RS under hood after panel removed...
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/20170205_134151.jpg (http://s127.photobucket.com/user/SSROADSTER/media/94%20ZR-1/20170205_134151.jpg.html)
RS after cleaning....
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/20170205_153845.jpg (http://s127.photobucket.com/user/SSROADSTER/media/94%20ZR-1/20170205_153845.jpg.html)

[Roadster]

RS headlight bucket before...
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/20170205_142630.jpg (http://s127.photobucket.com/user/SSROADSTER/media/94%20ZR-1/20170205_142630.jpg.html)
RS headlight bucket after...
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/20170205_143548.jpg (http://s127.photobucket.com/user/SSROADSTER/media/94%20ZR-1/20170205_143548.jpg.html)
RS panel removed...you can see how cruddy it was from all of these years, the LS looked exactly the same....
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/20170205_134248.jpg (http://s127.photobucket.com/user/SSROADSTER/media/94%20ZR-1/20170205_134248.jpg.html)
RS topside panel cleaned....
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/20170205_152138.jpg (http://s127.photobucket.com/user/SSROADSTER/media/94%20ZR-1/20170205_152138.jpg.html)
RS bottom panel cleaned, but needs help!!!
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[Roadster]

Recommended by another car buddy.....paint for plastic......
Picked these up today, will do one bottom side panel with Rust-Oleum Flat Black and the other bottom side panel with Krylon Fusion Satin Black....
Also picked up a sanding block, as I have to sand those pieces, hoping it will smooth out the stone digs somewhat, we shall see!!!

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[Roadster]

On the RS of this pic you can see the difference from the LS, all those marks are actually road grime, oil and whatever else you pick up along the way when driving in the rain. Add that to 23 years of use and you have a build up that is fun to remove...using a sanding block and a small screwdriver, removed all of the imperfections, ready for paint...
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/20170208_134402.jpg (http://s127.photobucket.com/user/SSROADSTER/media/94%20ZR-1/20170208_134402.jpg.html)
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Used the Rust-Oleum paint, not to satisfied so far with the way it laid. I may have been to anxious and put on too much of a heavy coat. The longer it dries, it does seem to eliminate those fish eyes.....but I may have to re-sand and start over again...
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[Roadster]

Experimentation still needed....part is dry, shade of finish is fine....but have to figure out how to get a smooth finish allover!!!
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[DRM500RUBYZR-1]

Tom,
You may have silicone residue on those fenders.
Use one of the Eastwood type products that removes that before painting.
Think its called PREP.

No matter what you cleaned or roughed the surface with, silicone remarkably
hangs on tough.

Wish it would on my tires!

Best of luck!!!
Marty

[Roadster]

Tom,
You may have silicone residue on those fenders.
Use one of the Eastwood type products that removes that before painting.
Think its called PREP.

No matter what you cleaned or roughed the surface with, silicone remarkably
hangs on tough.

Wish it would on my tires!

Best of luck!!!
Marty


Thanks Marty, I was using mineral spirits as a prep....maybe not the correct product to use on this surface. Didn't even think about silicone being on there!!!
Will check out the Eastwood product.....appreciated....

[WVZR-1]

I don't know that there's any rattle can that sprayed directly has adhesion capabilities for the product. I don't know that the GF PP is a plastics type or not. I'm accustomed to seeing the "TYPE" in a trademark or circle or something of the sorts. Could they be assumed to be PP? Maybe - very likely!

If you were to use maybe SEM 3986 Adhesion Promoter it might do much better. Very HOT soapy water wash first after maybe the use of a silicon remover BUT when using the correct adhesion promoter maybe you could get a much better finish. Durability might always be an issue! Visit an auto refinishing/auto body supply house in the area maybe.

Here's a 3986 product user guide. Painted lots of plastic after using this stuff

http://www.autobodytoolmart.com//pdf/sem_plastic_adhesion_promoter_tds.pdf

GFPP maybe?

http://www.plasticsgroup.com/polifil_gfpp.php

[Roadster]

Thanks Dave, looks like some good reading and learning here...better to do the job right the first time....

Responded to email few minutes ago.....

[Roadster]

Still working on the panels, but also working on the exposed area under the hood when the panels are reinstalled.

This is again the RS underhood area with all the road grime attached...
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/20170211_134016.jpg (http://s127.photobucket.com/user/SSROADSTER/media/94%20ZR-1/20170211_134016.jpg.html)
This is the LS underhood area with a work in progress, still more to do here....but there is a difference...lol
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/20170211_133934.jpg (http://s127.photobucket.com/user/SSROADSTER/media/94%20ZR-1/20170211_133934.jpg.html)
The cleaning cloth getting all of the grime eliminated...
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[Roadster]

New screws arrived the other day and package with u-nuts from Dave got delivered today. Now the fun begins with opening up the depressions under the hood to allow the u-nuts to fit. Screws and u-nuts fit perfect.
Just going to take my time to do the job right!!!

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/20170213_171443.jpg (http://s127.photobucket.com/user/SSROADSTER/media/94%20ZR-1/20170213_171443.jpg.html)
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[Roadster]

Resumed the panel work today....looking for perfection being as anal as I can sometimes be....:-({|= not quite 100% but then again not NCRS either. Can't tell you the countless times I stripped the paint and started over again....:censored: Might need a slight coat in one area, other than that, the RS is done......=D>

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/20170218_183212.jpg (http://s127.photobucket.com/user/SSROADSTER/media/94%20ZR-1/20170218_183212.jpg.html)
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[DRM500RUBYZR-1]

Looks very, very good Tom!!!
What paint finally worked?
:cheers:
Marty

[Roadster]

Looks very, very good Tom!!!
What paint finally worked?
:cheers:
Marty

Thanks Marty, I did contact Eastwood for the PREP product and the shipping cost more than the spray product. So I canned that item. I still used the mineral spirits as a "cleaner, degreaser, etc., before spraying. I ended up using both the Rust-Oleum and the Krylon Fusion after all. I finally figured out the correct amount of spray to put down and get the finish I was looking for. But of course even though I had the outer lip done perfect, I ending up stripping the paint off because of an imperfection that I couldn't straighten out with additional coats. Even though light coats worked fine, I had to spray a "wet color" coat on the outside lip which puts out to much paint and didn't spread out correctly. Why do I do these things???[-X
I was even thinking of trying Plasti-Dip, which I imagine would work.
Will be working on the RS panel in the AM, still have some sanding to do and hopefully this time I get it right, on the first try.

[We Gone]

http://imageshack.com/a/img540/5060/7zfqtz.jpg

[Roadster]

Appreciate the suggestion of the product, I should have clarified myself. It is not because of the surface not being clean enough to spray, rather it is because of me striving to get it to look as best as it can with my painting abilities. Sometimes I get to impatient and spray more than I should, therefore resulting in a finish or flaw that I am not happy with. Then after spraying more to fix the so called flaw, it ends up looking worse than before. Hence the reason I feel the need to strip off the paint and just start over again...
The other panel is ready for paint.....we shall see real soon.....lol

[Roadster]

LS sanded and ready for wipe down...
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/20170219_140705.jpg (http://s127.photobucket.com/user/SSROADSTER/media/94%20ZR-1/20170219_140705.jpg.html)
LS wiped down and in the open paint booth....lol
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/20170219_145915.jpg (http://s127.photobucket.com/user/SSROADSTER/media/94%20ZR-1/20170219_145915.jpg.html)
LS with first coat.....:icon_boun
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[Roadster]

As good as it's going to get...drying time now...
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/20170219_155803.jpg (http://s127.photobucket.com/user/SSROADSTER/media/94%20ZR-1/20170219_155803.jpg.html)
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[Roadster]

Ok, another decision has been made.....lol time for a re do of a panel, although I said, this was it.....not so...taking a break, then it is back to stripping the LS panel......:rolleyes:

RS panel that was done first and the more flat finish I was looking for.....
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/20170220_173846.jpg (http://s127.photobucket.com/user/SSROADSTER/media/94%20ZR-1/20170220_173846.jpg.html)
LS panel finished yesterday and once again, got over anxious with the spray can, which resulted in a more shinny finish....
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/20170220_173835.jpg (http://s127.photobucket.com/user/SSROADSTER/media/94%20ZR-1/20170220_173835.jpg.html)
here you can really tell the difference between the RS & the LS.....and really see some shadows on the LS panel...since I already was thinking of a re do, I just left as is, going to be sanded again...
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p138/SSROADSTER/94%20ZR-1/20170220_173820.jpg (http://s127.photobucket.com/user/SSROADSTER/media/94%20ZR-1/20170220_173820.jpg.html)

[Roadster]

Today's update....
Sanded the LS hoping that the re-spray will go well to eliminate the shine from the previous spray....
This is the panel sanded.....and ready for spray.....
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LS panel re-sprayed.....close to the finish of the RS, have to see after fully dried....there is one spot on the outside rail that does need attention, just have too figure out how to do it right!!!
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[Roadster]

LS is now complete, still have some work to do on the area to the left of the panel. Too shinny, needs to be toned down.....
Will have more detailed pics on the right side....had to elongate the depressions more so the u-nuts would fit correctly. So far so good, all I was looking for was a clean look compared to what it looked like before....I am happy with the results....

Before pic.....when first started the job...
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After pic, installed and much better than before...
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[george1945]

We are replacing all the weather stripping on the 90, replacing the lower radiator support and air dam and using this thread to detail the under hood area. This really came out nice. Thanks for the thread and pictures.

[Roadster]

We are replacing all the weather stripping on the 90, replacing the lower radiator support and air dam and using this thread to detail the under hood area. This really came out nice. Thanks for the thread and pictures.

Thanks for the compliment. Glad that you can use this thread as a reference. If you have any questions, I will try to answer them the best that I can. It did take me a lot of time with the procedure that I used. You may find some other way(s) to accomplish the same results, if indeed you panels need refinishing.
I found that the Rust-Oleum 2X for Plastics (flat black) ended up giving me the exact finish I was looking for compared to the Krylon Fusion for Plastics (satin) paint. You do not need to do any "heavy" wet coats, as that will produce a very shinny finish, just what I didn't want....did many stripping and re sprays on both panels, because I got over anxious with the spray can.....lol
Just nice even coats with drying time in between and they will turn out fine.

[WVZR-1]

I believe the HEX does well - if a person wanted they could of course spend the additional to do the T30 M6.3-1.81X25 used for the earlier years. The spinning washer on the bolt is a must if you're refinishing I'd think. No spinning washer and the bolt twists the finish from the panel.

I've seen many C4 cars missing the hardware (vibration/fallout) the HEX is a less expensive to replace option OR you borrow a T30 from elsewhere and use the HEX to replace the borrowed.

[Roadster]

I believe the HEX does well - if a person wanted they could of course spend the additional to do the T30 M6.3-1.81X25 used for the earlier years. The spinning washer on the bolt is a must if you're refinishing I'd think. No spinning washer and the bolt twists the finish from the panel.

I've seen many C4 cars missing the hardware (vibration/fallout) the HEX is a less expensive to replace option OR you borrow a T30 from elsewhere and use the HEX to replace the borrowed.

They worked out very well, I like the hex.....thanks again for the recommendation.......
Sent you a PM.......

[Roadster]

RS finished.....wrapped up everything this afternoon....the underside of the hood will need a redo, but that is for another time.....cleaned up tools, wiped down the hood and went for a ride before the rain!!!
It feels good to have secondaries.........:D

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[George45]

Great pictures. We started out on the 90 today. But started with the weather stripping. Got the front and rear roof pieces off. Looks like we must have had two glue sniffers doing the factory install.we managed to get only one or two pieces longer than an inch to come up.I don't believe it would have ever leaked. Used plenty of adhesive remover and a lot of elbow grease to get the tracks cleaned up.Should take another hour to finish the first part.

[Roadster]

Thanks, appreciated....
Always good to make progress....keep us posted on the weatherstrip. I will have to replace some of mine in the future.....

[doctorjay61]

Just found this thread thanks for the great information. Mine are getting a bit tired looking as well. Out of curiosity is this a part you can locate nos or are there reproductions available? Or is you best bet to remove and respray yourself as detailed here?

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[Roadster]

Just found this thread thanks for the great information. Mine are getting a bit tired looking as well. Out of curiosity is this a part you can locate nos or are there reproductions available? Or is you best bet to remove and respray yourself as detailed here?

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Wow.....I do apologize doctorjay61 as its been over 2 years since I've checked this post.....needless to say....I feel you're better off doing it yourself if you have the time and the patience to do the job.....as it is time consuming.....but well worth it IMO.....started on the 3 pieces in the wheel well itself.....posting below.....:)

[Roadster]

Since my 94 is very much apart....now with the wheel well liners out....it's time to get them looking like new again...when done the Z should be looking good....and not worry about doing this again in my lifetime....[emoji848][emoji848][emoji16]
Pics of the 3 wheel well panels....and there condition before and after on two of them....132841328513286132871328813289

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[Roadster]

Almost ready for paint....road grime and buildup gone....just need to go over a few more areas.....13290

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[doctorjay61]

No worries at all! I'm still in the original experimentation phase that you went through. Bought some extra sets from a junk yard so that I can mess around with them. I'm trying out the plastic restorer product that eastwood sells. Seems to work really well so far. It just wont fill in any imperfections so they need to be in good shape to begin with. Also have the same problem with it being a 94 and not having torx screw heads.

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[Roadster]

No worries at all! I'm still in the original experimentation phase that you went through. Bought some extra sets from a junk yard so that I can mess around with them. I'm trying out the plastic restorer product that eastwood sells. Seems to work really well so far. It just wont fill in any imperfections so they need to be in good shape to begin with. Also have the same problem with it being a 94 and not having torx screw heads.

Sent from my SM-G950U using ZR-1 Net Registry mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=90383)Post up some pics when you can.. would like to see your results...[emoji16][emoji16]
Glad I'm done with the uppers...was alot of fun...lol switching over too bolts for attachment... [emoji106][emoji106]

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[Roadster]

LF rear liner finished....that wheel well is completed and waiting for install.... some other pics of today's activities...limited I may add....:):)
Pic #1...although this angle shows light reflection....it came out really good...
Pic #2...LR wheel liner removed....will need some new torx bolts and u-nuts....plenty of road grime buildup like all of the others...
Pic #3...inside of wheel liner...
Pic #4...some surprise items in the rocker panel....:rolleyes:
Pic #5...seems to clean up fairly easy with a partial wipe down...
Pic #6....a wire going nowhere...seems like it could be a ground for the antenna....but don't really know....lol 132951329613297132981329913300

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[Roadster]

Additional cleaning today and found some factory marking under the dirt...didn't realize they would be there....glad I went over the area lighty..interesting how they designated that this is a "Z"....don't know what the other #'s mean....will have to check my build sheet....:):)
Pic #1...factory markings....
Pic #2...The shocks were completely covered in heavy crud....still in the process of removing the rest....wondering if this was somewhat undercoated at one time...as the shocks were 100% covered...
Pic #3...Another view. ....
Pic #4...Still cleaning....not for show....just to be clean...:)
Pic #5...Even where the liner attaches to the rear bumper had grime issues....now cleaned....:)
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