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WVZR-1
10-23-2016, 10:45 AM
I've a friend with a '95 ParkAve Buick and I need this adapter to do some checks for him. The car is OBD1 but has OBD2 connector. I'm quite sure my Tech2 won't do OBD1(on the 16 pin ALDL) and I've got it "on loan" to a fellow that's not close to me anyway.

Someone in NOVA? I might like to "borrow" if I could.

There's a couple dealers in the area that might have and I buy from so Monday I'll likely attempt to have a conversation. If they have, they actually might likely NOT be able to put their "hands on it".

Buy? I might to complete the Tech1 package I have.

Trade? I've many cartridges for the Tech1

-=Jeff=-
10-23-2016, 11:47 AM
like this one?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GM-Tech-1-OBD-II-Vehicle-Interface-Module-VIM-16-24-Pin-DLC-Adapter-Cable-/272400956455

WVZR-1
10-23-2016, 12:36 PM
like this one?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GM-Tech-1-OBD-II-Vehicle-Interface-Module-VIM-16-24-Pin-DLC-Adapter-Cable-/272400956455

No that's a 16/24 adapter of some sorts. I believe that's the required device/adapter cable etc required to do TRUE OBD2 cars with the Tech1

Needs to be this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/KENT-MOORE-TOOL-GM-3000053-16-12-PIN-TECH-1-ADAPTER-TOOL-/141964429027?hash=item210dbd46e3:g:XTMAAOSw2GlXFoA L&item=141964429027&vxp=mtr

George Maz
10-24-2016, 08:34 AM
Let me check my Tech1A case for the adapter, and I'll mail it along with the DERM module you sent me. In a few weeks I'm picking up a new Tech1A that has every adapter & cartridge...hopefully it has this P/N.

WVZR-1
10-24-2016, 09:15 AM
Let me check my Tech1A case for the adapter, and I'll mail it along with the DERM module you sent me. In a few weeks I'm picking up a new Tech1A that has every adapter & cartridge...hopefully it has this P/N.

Good morning - I appreciate your looking. If you do I'll use and return if your newer purchase doesn't include it.

This fellows Park Avenue has been somewhat of an adventure. The last time he had it in a shop they had it for 2 weeks and couldn't get a crank. I was sure it was a VATS failure after I spoke to him and I went to the shop with my VATS Interrogator expecting to undo the 2 pin connector, plug in my Interrogator and crank the car. Maybe in '94 or so on many GM's the pins were added to a multi-pin bulkhead style connector and that was a disappointment. I was so sure it was the failure I told the shop to cut the wires and proceed. They wanted to do a several hundred $$$ fix. I ended up driving 40+ miles to get the resistors (string of three), solder and 3/32 heat shrink and showed the shop how to accomplish the fix.

To use my Interrogator I would have needed to use this adapter

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kent-Moore-Tools-J-35628-90-J-35628-100-PASS-VATS-Adapter-Harness-Set-Tool-/182310763558?hash=item2a72917c26:g:Z1gAAOSwZJBX~U3 L&item=182310763558&vxp=mtr

George Maz
10-24-2016, 10:29 AM
Sorry, I don't have that particular adapter.
I checked both Tech1A kits we bought recently, and reviewed the pictures of the new kit I'm getting soon.

WVZR-1
10-24-2016, 11:05 AM
Sorry, I don't have that particular adapter.
I checked both Tech1A kits we bought recently, and reviewed the pictures of the new kit I'm getting soon.

Thanks for the 'look see' -

Scrrem
10-24-2016, 01:36 PM
Sorry Dave, I have 3000055 but not 3000053.
Rich

GOLDCYLON
10-24-2016, 03:01 PM
Dave I will look tonight when I return home in my Tech 1A cases.

WVZR-1
10-24-2016, 05:22 PM
Sorry Dave, I have 3000055 but not 3000053.
Rich

Rich -

What is a 3000055? I've seen that # mentioned a time or two but I'm not familiar with it. Quite curious!!

Dave I will look tonight when I return home in my Tech 1A cases.

GC - thanks for a look see

*** I stopped at the dealer today and no one could put the "hands on" - company tools OR in a couple techs boxes where I thought it might more likely have been.

GOLDCYLON
10-25-2016, 01:52 AM
http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l498/goldcylon/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-10/FAC437FF-C9F8-4587-B0EA-650F078AE88B_zpslokic4di.jpg (http://s1120.photobucket.com/user/goldcylon/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-10/FAC437FF-C9F8-4587-B0EA-650F078AE88B_zpslokic4di.jpg.html)

I can lend it to you but it's not for sale. I do want it returned as its part of my kit. Please advise GC

WVZR-1
10-25-2016, 03:37 AM
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I can lend it to you but it's not for sale. I do want it returned as its part of my kit. Please advise GC

USPS PRIORITY MAIL works for me - I understand the LOAN/RETURN -

I've sent an email!!

Scrrem
10-25-2016, 08:33 AM
Rich -

What is a 3000055? I've seen that # mentioned a time or two but I'm not familiar with it. Quite curious!!


T-100 12-16 PIN Adapter 3000055

Rich

GOLDCYLON
10-25-2016, 10:38 AM
USPS PRIORITY MAIL works for me - I understand the LOAN/RETURN -

I've sent an email!!

Dave shipped this morning per your email. I texted the tracking number. I hope it works out for you. You should have it Thursday but NLT Friday. GC

WVZR-1
10-25-2016, 11:57 AM
Dave shipped this morning per your email. I texted the tracking number. I hope it works out for you. You should have it Thursday but NLT Friday. GC

Hey Daryll - sent you a couple PM's. Thank you so much - let's try an email of the tracking # or just TEXT again.

Hib Halverson
10-25-2016, 12:04 PM
The 1994 and 1995 C-body cars were part of GM's early roll-out of OBD2 as were the Corvettes with LT1s.

The ECM in that car has partial OBD2 capability. If your T2 has software supporting MY95, then you should be able to look at whatever OBD2 content is coming over the DLC, but you are correct in that you will NOT be able to view OBD content with a T2 unless it supports it with the right software. If you T2 does support MY95, then I'd try to connect.

If it does not and you have access to a T1, T1A or a MasterTech along with a software cartridge which supports 95 OBD, then, yes, you need that adapter.

I have that adapter, but it's Vetronix PN 02001575. It is unknonwn to me if PN 3000053 and 02001575 are the same part or two different parts.

It's not for sale but might be available for loan if what you've already obtained doesn't work.

WVZR-1
10-25-2016, 12:29 PM
The 1994 and 1995 C-body cars were part of GM's early roll-out of OBD2 as were the Corvettes with LT1s.

The ECM in that car has partial OBD2 capability. If your T2 has software supporting MY95, then you should be able to look at whatever OBD2 content is coming over the DLC, but you are correct in that you will NOT be able to view OBD content with a T2 unless it supports it with the right software. If you T2 does support MY95, then I'd try to connect.

If it does not and you have access to a T1, T1A or a MasterTech along with a software cartridge which supports 95 OBD, then, yes, you need that adapter.

I have that adapter, but it's Vetronix PN 02001575. It is unknonwn to me if PN 3000053 and 02001575 are the same part or two different parts.


It's not for sale but might be available for loan if what you've already obtained doesn't work.

Thanks Hib,

My Tech2 is lent to a friend now and isn't an easy retrieval. I last updated the 32M card in '12 - I didn't want to go through the retrieval aggravation if it wouldn't. I don't see any indisputable way to confirm without having the Tech2 in hand, connecting it and see if it will sort through the MENU to '95 and then the K (3800) and lastly give me the option to choose H/C in the model ID.

Daryll's sending the 0053 and with my mass-storage I'll see how much of the information is available. I believe I should maybe be able to get into the BCM also with the 0053. On the side of the 0053 I believe there's a TOGGLE for ECM/PCM and E & C or at least that's the way I've seen it in images but no one has mentioned what the TOGGLE is for. Some just say NO IDEA. I've always thought E & C was Entertainment and Control generally reserved for RPO option content.

I'll post back and if I'm able to put a "hands on" to my Tech2 I'll compare both.

Thanks for the offer of a loan - I thought the Vetronix PN 02001575 was for use on maybe a true OBD2 car for only PCM/ECM content and DTC. I'll post back.

**** Even in the Tech1 MENU I had to first specify that it wasn't an F-body

GOLDCYLON
10-25-2016, 12:38 PM
WV emailed the shipping tracking number. Heading to the hospital to check on a team mate

WVZR-1
10-25-2016, 02:46 PM
I deleted what I felt might be irrelevant to my situation

I ain't interested in the "fabrication" of an adapter that may or may NOT work. I went beyond '95 and into '96 content and even for '96 Corvette CCM diagnostics the 0053 adapter is called for. For '96 Y-body PCM(all OBD2 is PCM) an entirely different component for the Tech1 is specified. I'm interested in exactly what Daryll is sending for the car I'm trying to help a friend with. I'm not just attempting to read codes but to also do some diagnostics once I'm "into" the ECM and maybe even the BCM/CCM of the car.

I get CODE READER - ERASER but that's NOT where I'm attempting to go.

In this CF thread I'm guessing/thinking the "toggle" differentiates between what's maybe required (pin configuration) for ECM/PCM info and maybe CCM/BCM information.

http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c4-tech-performance/2198465-obd-1-to-obd-ii-connector.html#post1568131767

5713

Hib - I believe that maybe the 02001575 is required to do SRC on the '94 - '95 with a 16 pin ALDL. Will it do the CCM also? I don't know.

Screm - T100/T-100 seems to be what I always called though a CAMS terminal. Page 13 in this .pdf paper. CAMS I think was Computerized Automotive Maintenance System. I've never updated a MassStrorageCartridge but I'm quite sure this machine was used for them.

http://tomboynton.com/GMnetworks.pdf

GOLDCYLON
10-25-2016, 04:01 PM
Yep you cant see it in the my pic folks but there is a toggle on the side of the adapter that switches modes. Just like WV states and as seen in the CF Forum thread

WVZR-1
10-25-2016, 04:31 PM
GC - Gotta love those SSK (Self Service Kiosk) in the lobby of the Post Office - The tracking mentioned that it the SSK had reported to the system that the package was electronically processed at the SSK and then went on with the expected info. THANKS!!!

GOLDCYLON
10-25-2016, 11:03 PM
GC - Gotta love those SSK (Self Service Kiosk) in the lobby of the Post Office - The tracking mentioned that it the SSK had reported to the system that the package was electronically processed at the SSK and then went on with the expected info. THANKS!!!

Yep I like them as they allow me to send items out in the early AM when I head into work. However they have jammed on me before and the postage spindles wad up and don't dispense the postage. Which then means you have return when they are open as they verify that the postage never dispensed and postage labels are treated as cash. Last time it happened it must have taken an hour for a postal worker to unwad all the electronic labels for folks to come in and claim they had a problem to get a refund. This has happened to me twice before and the guy behind the counter told me the second time it happened that I was lying and that what is said happened was impossible. Another worker had to tell him he was wrong they had been pulling apart the wad for hours. :cheers:

WVZR-1
10-26-2016, 06:18 PM
The fellow who had my Tech2 was going to be "in the vicinity" today so we met and I've my Tech2 and I'll have Daryll's adapter for the Tech1 maybe tomorrow or Friday.

I powered the Tech2 from my '03 Bonnevile and I was able to toggle through ALL GM back to '92, Saturn to '91. I must have updated the 32M card in '11 vs '12 because software is 32.001 and '11 is the most current.

I should be well equipped for this '95 Park Ave that has the 16 pin OBD2 ALDL.